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nextprince:
But Kogi and Anambra have issues with the ownership of that oil producing parts?

You dey mind dem? The oil that straddles both Kogi and Anambra states, with a large percentage found in Kogi, is what Anambra is laying claim to. It is in their nature to 'claim' anything, 'claimable.' Anyway, I don't blame them. Na Kogi cause am....

King of Hearts has taken a new turn. Shabnam shot Siddarth, put the blame on Didi, got Didi arrested, used treachery to get hold of Did's power of attorney over her properties, and finally put the whole family at her mercy. Their grandmother Aleknanda is now permanently paralysed as a result of an accident caused by Shabnam, which led Siddarth to hit her in error.

Now, it appears that Siddarth is back from the dead...hmmmn!

Where is this whole series heading to??! These Indian scriptwriters, sef!

Ok, Young Dreams is getting interesting again! Charu's evil schemes and the way she pretended to be Gunjan in order to try and attack Rachna have been exposed, and Gunjan & Rachna have sorted out their differences. Both of them entered for the Fresher Of The Year competition and Gunjan won, after Rachna had slipped on purpose in order to bow out of the last round. Vihan ended up as Rachna's mentor, while Rajiv his brother who is also one of the teachers, was Gunjan's mentor.

But the dance between Rachna and Vihaan was so nice. They moved in such harmony. Hmmn....it appears that Vihaan is on the verge of losing his heart to his ex-fiancee, Rachna. Chaya their friend falls into the clutches of a lecherous lecturer, and that teacher is exposed with the help of Rachna, Gunjan and Rajiv.

Meanwhile, Charu cooks up false charges against Mayank's family about an illegal demand for dowry, and ends up getting Mayank and his parents arrested. She even burns her hand on purpose, and places the blame on Mayank's family. Charges are dropped after Sangeeta (her cousin) who is also Mayank's aunt in-law, threatens to expose her and testify against her.

Akash, Gujna's father returns from Australia with a marraige proposal for Gunjan. The boy chosen for Gunjan is a new chap Aditya who has such a lovely personality, that everyone in the family ends up liking him. Unfortunately, Gunjan and Mayank are both troubled by the feelings they still have for each other, and they are the only ones that feel miserable, while everyone else is celebrating.

I am waiting to see if Gunjan will end up marrying Aditya or if she would call off the proposed wedding.

mistytohcute:
twist of fate needs to be banned
aaargh

True!! See how Aaliyah heartlessly framed Purvi, while Sarla along with her entire family believed the story, without even giving Purvi a chance to defend herself!! Even Pragya on arrival, believed that Purvi had helped the kidnappers, after the Corporator (i.e. Neil) framed her, because Aaliyah had told him to do so! How can these people be so clueless as to believe all those lies against Purvi, without investigating Aaliyah's claims, or the Corporator's lies??! Purvi grew up in Pragya's family, for crying out loud! She has never had a criminal record and has never exhibited any bad behaviour before....and now these allegations have made against her. How come no one is giving Purvi benefit of the doubt, including her own mother?

And how come Aaliyah & Tanu keep getting away with evil, in every single episode? Isn't there supposed to be a day of reckoning?

Probz:
The dodo I'm frying is about to burn so I won't even bother replying properly to any of that for now. All I can say is you've obviously got an agenda to push and you should look for a kiddies forum to post on. Any smart 17-year-old kid could come up with the nonsense you type on this forum.

Frying dodo is your new excuse??! Oya, clap for yourself.

Like I asked you before, now that your recital, dictation, chants and advertisement of Igala and Itsekiri are Yoruboid languages has been completed, let us know what the Kogi people are owing you that you had to devote a whole thread to their matter...?

I am sure a 3-year old toddler like you can answer that question, not so?

Probz:
Hian. See mumu.

It wasn't me claiming Ika and Ukwuani people as Igbo initially. Go and read the thread.

This thread's not even about Igala people only but Kogi State as a whole. It's you who had to pick up on the Igala thing specifically and derail the thread. Igala and Itsekiri are Yoruboid languages and everybody knows that. Come and fight me from behind the screen na.

See this one. You are now dodging the issue by saying that it wasn't you claiming "Ika and Ukwuani people as Igbo initially". Uh? You forgot that I read through all the pages on that thread and even made comments. You may not have claimed it initially, but you definitely ended up declaring it eventually to them and even supported those who were trying to drown out Ika voices, that kept insisting on their dual Edo/Igbo heritage. Now you are coming in here to form 'innocent.' Hehehe...we know your antics.

Continue with your recital, dictation, chants and advertisement of Igala and Itsekiri are Yoruboid languages. You will soon end up telling us what Kogi State is owing you by the time everyone gets to the end of this thread. Did anyone tell you that the Kogi people do not know the major and minor tribes in their state? Or you just want to dictate to the Kogi people what the ethnic composition of their state should be? We are watching, in 3D!

RedboneSmith:
Really? 'Exists, Is there'. Is this nonsense nit-picking because you wish to have the last word?

Oya, I give you. Take.

ROFLMAO!

RedboneSmith:
*yawns* Still smarting, yea? Me and my 'Igala' Deltans will be hanging out at Cable Point tomorrow evening. Coman drive us out.

Una no go take laugh kill person for here!

ImperialYoruba:
How many hours left before this nonsense expires?

Do you think they will come back here to give you a response? They are keyboard internet warriors, nah! We know their antics...all their gra-gra was for show.

Probz:
My friend shut up or commot for here. Igala is a Yoruboid language. End of.

Anyone can see languished was a typo for language.

I don talk am! See dem! IPOB crew that have now decided to dictate to the Igala, the constituents of their language. Are you tired of dictating to the Ika on your other thread, that you have now come to face the Igala?

If you knew for a fact that it was a Yoruboid language, what was the essence of opening a whole thread? You wanted to advertise the fact that you knew more about the Igala language than the Igalas themselves, or you just felt like dictating to the Igalas what their language should be or what it sounds like? You and your clique have done it on other threads, so why am I not surprised?

Hug the nearest transformer with wet hands, if you don't like my comments! Raw-bb-ish!

YourNemesis:
What are you even talking about? I am guessing you are from one of these tribes in the NC that want to deny the linguinstic links of Yoruba and Igala.
If this language does not sound like Yoruba to you, then I don't know what will... Heck, I even understand some of it!.

Oga, what is your problem? Was my last remark addressed to you? You can guess as much as you like. That is your own kettle of fish. I told you before to leave me alone with this IPOB crew, who like to dictate to everybody what their ethnicity should be, and what their language sounds like. Instead, you are here trying to form I-too-know (ITK). Ok, the language in your videos does NOT sound Yoruba to me. What will you now do? Carry Cane? Haba!! Face your calabash, o!

Let the Igala indigenes tell me what their language sounds like!

Is it a fresh Tokunboh, or Nigerian-used model? Where is it located? What exactly is wrong with the vehicle?

RedboneSmith:
I have said before on this forum that I identify personally as Igbo, and have been active in pro-Igbo organizations both online and offline. Note that I say "personally". I am in no position to speak for everyone in Anioma.

But I guess identifying as Igbo isn't enough for fanatical nationalists like Pazienza who want me to also reject the Igala origins of my community, and seek every opportunity to call me 'Igbophobe' and 'Igala settler'. If 'Igbo' unity never happens we only have fanatical nationalists to blame for it.

And no, we are not ethnically Igala. Not any more.

Epic!

RedboneSmith:
You are bored. Anioma is a well-organised constituted socio-cultural grouping, and we regard each other as kin. If it pains you come and jump on my back.

I am also waiting for you to come from Ogidi and drive me and other Illah indigenes, including the Obi Ogbelani out of Oshimili and back to Igala.

Hehehe.... what an interesting response. Una no go kill person with laugh for here!

Probz:
Igala languished is officially classed as Yoruboid. That's what their language is defined as and this shakara you're doing on this thread doesn't change that.

What is languished?? I no talk am? I knew you would go down this route. You started this thread on a note of enquiry, and you have now rushed into a definitive lane by dictating what kind of language Igala resembles, or what class it belongs to. Why am I not surprised?? Stop dictating to the Igala what their language is or what it is not!

bigfrancis21:
You are still not making sense. Much ado about nothing. Keep it up.

Yes...it would not make sense to you. How would it? It does not fall in line with your tendency to dictate to other ethnic groups what their identity should be, or what their language should sound like! mtcheew! Continue rambling....

Probz:
No one's deciding anything about their ethnicity but their language is Yoruboid and that's for show to any casual observer. You've got no point.

Hmmnn.....dem don start. Didn't I say it?

Probz:
"I’ve researched this topic for time and my understanding is that there's three distinct groups in Anioma (Delta Ibo) - two Edoid-Igboid (Ika, Ukwuani/Ndokwa) and one Igbo proper (Enuani), that the latter (the only genuine, authentic Igbos who inhabit Delta Igboland) can be found around Asaba/Oshimili/Aniocha area, that "Bendel Igbos," as my mum calls them, (Ika and Ukwuani people) are culturally Edoid groups who happen to speak Igboid languages and that close proximity and the vague similarity in language is why a people who are essentially Bini are lumped in with the real Delta Igbos (Enuani). In exactly the same sense as that if true Yorubas occupied an area in (let's just say) Delta State with Igalas and Itsekiris, all three groups would all be known as "Delta Yoruba" since they're all linguistically Yoruboid and because they'd share neighbouring proximity with each other, forgetting that there's only one true group of Yorubas who inhabit that area - i.e., the Yorubas, not the other two non-culturally Yoruba groups who happen to speak Yoruboid languages (and not even Yoruba proper).

I tend to agree with the assertion that one and only true Igbos of Anioma are Enuani since I've encountered Enuani Igbos who hail from Asaba who are in literally every respect just as Igbo as a typical south easterner from Enugu or Anambra and the Ika-Ukwuani (Bendel) stock people who speak languages that share similarities with Igbo but who you couldn't in a million years imagine sipping palmy and chopping nkwobi in Ishiagu and red cap. grin

Ditto for Rivers folk. I know authentic Igbos can be found in the Bonny-Opobo axis (said to be, at least in part, descendants of settlers from the Awka-Orlu axis) but as for Ikwerres, does the fact that they happen to speak an Igboid language mean that they're also culturally Igbo (or at least before the civil war) and could someone fill me in on the other Igboid/Igbo groups of Rivers (Etche, Ndoni, etc.). I've looked for info. online and there's next to nothing on Wikipedia at least for Etches.

My question is, could someone fill me in on the Ikas and Ukwuanis of Delta and the Ikwerre, etc., of Rivers? Ika and Ukwuani definitely don't fall under the banner of Igbo proper but Igboid in a linguistic sense (even if you might well argue that their dialect is more intelligible than Nsukka/Ebonyi dialects) but are these people culturally Igbo or Edoid, etc.? I've only researched this for some time so my understanding's limited but that's the conclusion through reading and my own experiences with some of these folk."

That was my first post on that Delta Igbo thread. It was me that was insisting that Ukwuanis and Ikas aren't Igbo but Edo-Igbo hybrids (I even coined the term Edoid-Igboid) and that was my understanding at the time of making said thread.

Igala people aren't Yoruba and the language isn't but Yoruboid. An outsider like me can only go off intonation rather than individual lexicon but Igala when spoken sounds very Yoruba-like and it forms a language cluster with Olukwumi, Itsekiri and Yoruba as Yoruboid languages and you know this.

Guy, save the epistle for your brethren. I do not need your long defensive explanation on the Ika/Ukwuani vs the Igbo/Igboiid ethnic question. There is no need to rehash it here. I followed that thread in detail, so do not digress from the main subject that is under discussion, here.

The issue is how you and your clique like ascribing a particular ethnic identity or ancestry to a group, without their permission. Na wetin?? Why not let the Igala indigenes themselves tell you what their language sounds like or what their ethnic identity is. You are the one to dictate to them that their language sounds Yoruboid, not so?? Wait first, do you speak Yoruba as well as Igala? So why all these postulations about how Igala is Yoruboid? Leave the Igala indigenes to tell you exactly what their own language sounds like.

If one of them comes in here, to say that their language is not Yoruboid, I know you and your clique would go up in arms trying to shove it down their throats, on how Yoruboid it is, or how many Yoruba clusters their language belongs to! Leave Igala indigenes to determine what exactly their language is! Chai!

freshdude99:
I now see how foolish u are

Nah, the f00lishness is reeking from your words...everyone can see it. Receive sense in Jesus' name.

YourNemesis:
Nobody is calling Igalas Yoruba, and Yorubas are clearly not claiming them in anyway, but the Language surely does sound Yoruba. I even learnt that in the core North, they are regarded as one and the same with Yoruba people.
What is your tribe sef.

Guy, just leave me and these so-called 'Igbo/Igboiid clique' that like to determine other people's ethnicity for them. I never said that the Yorubas are claiming Igala. I just asked the so-called 'Igbo/Igboiid clique' to allow the Igalas to determine what their language sounds like, and allow the Igala indigenes to describe their own ethnicity by themselves.

Probz:
Quit throwing your dollies out the pram, kid. If you actually use your eyes to read you'll see that I was asking about the rate of Igala people speaking Yoruba in addition to their Yoruboid language. I didn't say anything wrong. Nonsense boy.

Probz:
Quit throwing your dollies out the pram, kid. If you actually use your eyes to read you'll see that I was asking about the rate of Igala people speaking Yoruba in addition to their Yoruboid language. I didn't say anything wrong.

And either you're taking the piss or confusing me with someone else since it wasn't even me who outright claimed Ika people are Igbo (more the opposite if anything). I've always said you're a very confused nigga and you're not doing much to make me think different. Know your place.

You see... I do not like engaging toddlers like you. You chaps are often unable to sift fact from fiction. This was the same way you started on the 'Ika vs. Igbo origins' thread the last time, only for you & your clique to end up foisting a mono-Igbo identity on the Ika, even when the Ika people kept insisting on their dual-Igbo-and-Edo heritage. All kinds of postulations, insults and e-fisticuffs were exchanged on that thread.

You now want to go down the same route on this thread, not so? Hehehe.....your nonsense will not work!

bigfrancis21:
Exactly, you are doing the same thing I mentioned earlier by inciting unnecessary troubles here. Sound like something is NOT the same as TO BE something. That Igala sounds like Yoruba does NOT mean it IS Yoruba. Of course, it is common knowledge that Igalas do not want to be called Yorubas and nobody is saying nor implying that here. It is often Yorubas that I see trying to claim Igalas. Therefore sounding like Yoruba does not mean it is Yoruba. Sometimes I wonder the level of English apprehension of many of our so-called graduates.

Guy, you lot are well known for dictating to people who they should be, what ancestry they should claim and even what language they should speak, or what their languages sound like. You and your clique have done so, on different threads. Why can't you just allow people to decide for themselves what they truly are or what they want to be? Why can't you let them declare categorically what their language sounds like? Must you decide for them? can you see how you chaps just like causing confusion and trouble?

Like I said before let the Igala indigenes come in here, and say categorically what their language sounds like or not! To the best of my knowledge, I have NOT seen a yoruba community or group claiming that the Igalas are Yoruba, or trying to force a Yoruba identity upon them. They have not even claimed the Itsekiris as part of the Yoruba community. They respect their differences. It is only you and your people that like dragging other ethnic groups along with you. Chai!!

bigfrancis21:
Ocho okwu...only enters a thread to incite troubles.

Yes, Igala definitely sounds Yoruboid when spoken....now do your worst.

Which worst? Did anyone say that I am like you? You guys are the ones that spark fire and brimstone over ethnic issues. It is only trouble makers like you, that like to decide what ethnicity a person should bear, and also go out of their way to determine what language sounds like the next, even when they cannot speak the languages in question.

Like I said, I am waiting for the Igala indigenes to come in here. Stop deciding for them, whether their language sounds Yoruba, Yoruboid or whatever.

AlPeter:
The man who ruined Ojukwu's plan, saved his people from the murderous and traitorous biafran army. Samuel Ogbemudia the brave soldier RIP
You will never be forgotten many lived cause you fought.

True!! May God rest his soul. And may the Almighty also console the family he left behind.

Erstwhile military governor of the Midwest Region and later governor of the equally defunct Bendel State, Brigadier-General Samuel Ogbemudia, was at the onset of the civil war, one of the highest ranking officers from the Midwest Region.

Once the Biafran Army overran the Midwest Region, Ogbemudia was dispatched to Kaduna with a DC 3 plane to procure arms from Kaduna by Major-Gen. David Ejoor who held command of the Federal Forces in Benin.

However, in Kaduna, Ogbemudia was to his dismay only given 30 guns and some ammunition to fight the Biafran Army that had already taken control of the Midwest Region.

In this narration Ogbemudia told Vanguard of the subtle strategies and structures employed to defend the region including the valuable role of young Midwest girls in the liberation. Ogbemudia, presently, a member of the Board of Trustees of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP is the patron of the Edo Mass Movement, EMM, a body aiming to position a worthy successor to the outgoing governor of Edo State, Comrade Adams Oshiomhole.

Excerpts:

Without arms what did you do?
The girls were told to go to the Biafran troops and get for us some arms and ammunition. And everyone they brought, we paid for it. Remarkably, they did. There was one girl, I saw her a few months ago and she is now an old woman, she brought twelve rifles and about 20,000 bullets. I said to her, how did you get these? She said somebody organized a get together, so she attended and incidentally, the leader of the Biafran troops was interested in her.

So, she told the man, I don’t want any money from you, my brother wants to be a hunter and wants to kill elephants, so I need weapons and ammunition to do this. The young man said that is simple, he was a major in rank. So, he told her to bring a taxi, and it was in that taxi that they loaded the rifles and ammunition. So we started.

Exit from Benin
My wife was a policewoman, and whenever we wanted anything, she would dress up and pass the roadblock without any issue. The day I left Benin, she took me up to the village near Ekiadolor. I slept there because I had a relation and wanted to stay about two, three days there, and I told my relations ‘I don’t want anyone to know that I am here.’

They said no problem. Not quite fifteen minutes after, about eight persons came and greeted, ‘domo sir we won’t tell anybody,’ and they left. Not quite another twenty minutes, another group came and greeted, ‘we won’t tell anybody,’ so after about four different groups had come, I told my wife, this place is not safe, so I left for the next village.

A few days after in that village, I tried to get Lagos and the phones that were in that area were not working. I later found out that you could get to Owo via Ogbesse instead of the Owan road. So, I told my sister that she would have to go with me. She followed me, and we got to Egbeta after Okada and some soldiers came out from the bush and said halt! I raised my hands, and they said who are you? I gave a name.

One looked at me over and over and over. He said "We won’t let you go, can you come and see our senior officer, and I asked what is the name of your senior officer? He said "Chukwuka and that Chukwuka was my boy". I said to my sister that if I get to that place, then I am finished, I must find a way out. I had a pistol which the boy didn’t bother to find.

When he was in front, my sister was following him, and I pulled out my gun and looked at the ammunition inside and there were thirteen, and I said good, this is enough to get out, and I put it back. Then I walked straight up to him and his friend, they were two. They made one mistake, and they flung their rifle and held the sling, and they were walking.

If you are going to shoot somebody, you have to remove it from your shoulder, cock the gun and by which time if the person is a fast runner, he would have done about 50, 60 meters. The rest is now history. I got to Owo with my sister and from Owo Post Office, I phoned Bissalla, who was the Chief of Staff. Bisalla phoned Gowon, and they said I should come and so, I went to Lagos.

Arrival in Lagos
On arrival, I saw Gowon, I went to the Chief of Staff, I went to the head of the Intelligence who debriefed me, and Gowon told me that there was a committee for Midwest Liberation headed by Chief Udoji and that I should go and see them. So, I went. In the evening, the place was full. All Midwesterners were there and started asking me the story of how I left, and I told them that I would never tell them how I left and that it was sufficient that I was there with them.

Their conclusion was that I should go to the hospital for the doctor to look at me because I had lost weight and after that, come and prepare to go back to the Midwest. I told them, "Sorry, I have lost some weight in my body and that nothing is wrong with my spirit and that ‘I have come here to ask Gowon to give me troops to go and liberate the Midwest." They said how many troops do you want?

I said a minimum of 600. They asked whether I don’t want to go to the hospital? I said "No, that there were people worse than myself in the Midwest and that unless the doctor would be willing to go there to take care of them, and that for me, my spirit was quite high and that they should not bother about what they saw in my flesh."

So, I told Gowon, and he approved. But the Chief of General Staff went to Gowon and told him, ‘you know Samuel (Ogbemudia) right from training that he could be an Ojukwu man and that if you give him 600 troops he could overrun all of us,’ and Gowon was taken in, and he told me, ‘we cannot find all the troops you want now, but I want you to go and join Murtula Mohammed who is already organized with some troops, and they are about to enter the Midwest.” http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/12/how-bendel-girls-battled-biafra-ogbemudia/

I am waiting for the Igala indigenes to enter this thread. It is interesting to see that it is an Igbo person that has decided that Igala sounds Yoruba or Yoruboid. Hehehe....!!

Probz:
Kogi State probably stands out more than any other Nigerian state in its own unique way. I know it borders 9 states (10 including Abuja/F.C. territory), represents the main kind of ethnic groups in the whole of Nigeria (the northern/Hausa-inclined, Yoruba and Igbo + the likes of Idoma) and that the main three tribes are Igala, Okun (a Yoruba subgroup) and Igbira/Ebira. Anyone know if the case of Okun is similar to Ika/Ukwuani/Ikwerre (mere subgroups of an overarching tribe who have dissociated and don’t see themselves as Yoruba or Igbo) and what’s the case of Igala people speaking Yoruba in addition to their Yoruboid language, etc.?

Igala people speak Yoruba?? You have started with this your language-fishing expeditions, again. Last time, you were on a thread claiming that Ika people are Igbo or something. The argument about the Igbo, Igboiid and Edo origins of the Ika, has not yet been settled on that thread.

The dust you generated there, is still rising even as we speak. Now you have started with this your 'Igala vs Yoruba/Yoruboid languages' theory...may God deliver you from causing confusion.