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Tomjazzy2:
Please what are the implications of this? This is bearing in mind the fact that for some obvious reasons, some car owners/dealers would pull of the plate number of an already registered car and put it up for sale as toks.

I almost closed a deal last week on a tokunbo car some where in PH, but I was fortunate to learn that the car in question has been registered and used by the owner, but because he wanted to recoup most of the cash he spent buying it, he decided to sell it as tokunbo.

Ofcourse I had to pull out of the deal because of the insincerity on the part of the dealer.

I am just curious here and would like to be schooled

The implications are many. Some people remove the number plates and try to sell such cars off as Tokunbo, simply because they are just dishonest and greedy. Another reason is that sometimes, such cars may be stolen. In order to dispose of it quickly, they remove the number plates to avoid detection and advertise it as Tokunbo.

buckdudebuck:
When did prisoner mean criminal. So Gani Fawenmi is also a criminal, even Buhari because he at a time was a prisoner? Nigeria and education is like Iran vs Iraq.

Okay o, in your view prisoner does not mean criminal. Like I told you before, only stupendously rich tourists are held in medium security prisons. Are you happy now?

Medium security prisons are the standard facilities used to house most criminals. They feature cage-style housing, armed guards, and a much more regimented daily routine than minimum security. http://www.crimemuseum.org/crime-library/types-of-prisons/

What's the price & where is it located?

unstableaswater:
Oya receive it!

Why are you slapping yourself, nah? Na so dis matter pain you reach?

unstableaswater:
Did she tell u that she is Igbo? She and that Sunday Oliseh are bloody slaves. Afonja! Wen we take Anioma, we will turn dem to Osu.
Everybody that say they are not Igbo are Osu. Another round of masacre awaits them, to correct their senses.

Who is an Afonja here? I can't see any. And where are the osus? I can only see that Igbo girl, Awele Odita. She is your sister. Stop trying to change her ethnicity.

PENCHANTMARTINS:
You must be a dullard...didn't you read of how the zoo government prevented aid from getting to the Biafrans?

Yet Nigeria offered to send Biafra food, using a land corridor. But Ojukwu refused. Whose fault was that?

unstableaswater:
Laudate go back and read ur post again. We are not denying that Anioma are Igbo, if that is where u are driving here, but some of them are Yoruba. Theses are the Olukomi people in Asaba. True or False?

That is y we told u that she is Yoruba. We no drink before we talk am.

Guy, did Awele Odita tell you that she is from the Olukumi people in Delta State?? You and lies, are like 5 & 6. She is Ika, and you have always said on all other threads, that Ika is Igbo. Stop trying to change the girl's ethnicity. Your mission is to disown her, even though she is your sister. You will not succeed.

unstableaswater:
Mr man, which middle name? Na ur pikin? Did u give her a middle-name? Go to the south east, u will never here Awele as anybody name. I am happy u have acknowledge Odita is not Igbo name. Make una go carry una cloth for where una swim. Igbo should be removed from ur mouths, these are yoruba people from Olukomi in Delta.

I did not say middle name. I said: first name & surname. Both are Igbo. Go to Onicha-Olona in Aniocha local govt area of Delta state, and you will find several people bearing Odita as their surname. I never said Odita is not Igbo. Stop lying, nah!

unstableaswater:
Did she tell u that she is igbo? If she did, then i will withdraw my comments, has she ever acknowledge that she is igbo? Wat shows that she is igbo? Go and watch her on youtube.

Her first name and surnames show that she is Igbo. I have lived in the Southwest for some years, and I am yet to see a Yoruba man give his daughter an Igbo first name & surname, if his wife is not Igbo.

unstableaswater:
Looking at the scenario and wondering wat on earth u are talking about. Please watch this video and be enlightened.
The man in the vidoe has igbo names unlike the lady u are referencing here who does not have Igbo names.

Stop trying to change the topic. Nobody is talking about Sunday Oliseh, here. The subject under discussion is Awele Odita. Unlike Sunday, the girl has not come out to say that she is NOT Igbo, has she? Stop trying to disown your sister, biko.

davinchecodes:
If you saw the killing of civilians as winning the war.

You are really sick.

Erm.... Ojukwu sent unarmed defenceless civilians to the battlefield, to confront federal forces who were heavily armed. What would you call him? And how would you label his actions?

unstableaswater:
Ayam not understanding. Anambra, Imo, Abia, Ebonyi, Enugu are the 5 Igbo States.

Where are u getting this idea that she is igbo from, even though she is not from the aforementioned states?

Watch this video and be enlightened. Awele means nothing in Igbo language, so to is Odita. They have no Igbo translation.

That girl doesnt even have igbo name, she speaks yoruba, acts yoruba, i am sure if u asked her like Sunday Oliseh, she will explain to u that she is not igbo.

Her first name and surname is pure Igbo. All your efforts to disown her, will not work.

Huddler:
Are guys cursed or what? Why not say this to your monkey faced, ugly bleached smelly Yetunde Yoruba sister?

Guy, what is your problem? Do not stand in the way of true love, biko. Stop being an impediment to those who want to express their affection across the ethnic divide.

Sammiejokes:
I don't understand does anyone stop an Igbo man from being president? Obama became president as a black man, only a matter of time before they have the first female president. Its a matter of time and space but you have to work for it.

Leave dem. They want Igbo presidency, yet they also want Biafra. I refuse to allow them to confuse me...

Amarabae:
so my mother who is a professor and married my Igbo dad is not educated?
Why do you people love using propaganda to feel good about yourselves?

Ah don't believe this!! Your mum is a professor and you carry such hate in your heart towards others? Wow! Whatever happened to education and enlightenment?

henryanna36:
"I met my husband in Enugu, he was a youth corper then in Enugu. I was also posted to Enugu. So a friend of mine visited me and she came along with her boyfriend who also came along with my husband. That was how we met and it was love at first sight. I think people frown at love at first sight but it worked for us.
I fell in love with his broad shoulders. Then he was really looking very cute. I can still remember what he was wearing that day – a red shirt, long sleeves and jeans trousers. That was 37 years ago. He couldn’t even take me out because he didn’t have money as a youth corper. It was quite magnetic and that was it.
There is a 3-year age difference between us. I am older than him anyway. I was like 25 then while he was 22. It was love that really endured. I had graduated and in my place (Owerri) when a girl graduates from the University suitors come from left, right and centre. And your parents would expect you to go for a made man with everything, but I have always known that there was no way I could have married a self-made man. I will better build a home from the scratch with you because I want to have a say in my home"

Mrs Betty Anyanwu Akeredolu
First Lady of Ondo State


Source: http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2017/03/mrs-betty-akeredolu-met-my-husband.html?m=1

Awww!! How romantic!

omofunaab:
Yes, they said

"That in the spirit of Igbo cultural values, MASSOB wishes to inform Ndigbo and Biafrans in general that no descent organization with the peoples mandate flourish in atmosphere of criminalities, drug peddling, lost focus and sabotage."

Somebody has hacked into omofunaab's account and is impersonating him on NL, or he has gotten himself an Igbo babe, whose mission is to brainwash him. I am suspecting that Ogbaru girl....

deji15:
You paid Nigerian naira for a Biafra Passport? You deserve an award

I no fit laugh, abeg....

buckdudebuck:
Last time I checked, that Prison is a medium security prison. Criminals don't go there.

Oh, I see - only stupendously rich tourists go there for a vacation. Are you sure you know what the word 'prison' actually means?

MAYOWAAK:
Zik married her in 1973 when she was 26.Zik was 69.There were 43 years age differential .And she lady went on to become a professor.

Zik should have been ashamed of himself!! See the difference in their ages. He was old enough to be her father!

Gowon promulgated Decree 8, which offered the Igbo more than 80% of what they wanted at Aburi. Unfortunately, the winner-takes-all mentality they exhibited, led them to turn it down. And they were eventually left with nothing! Today, some folks are wailing that Gowon reneged on an agreement. I laugh in Greek!

The bearded general who went to the OAU and spurned all attempts to broker peace, then ignored Zik's advice, by boasting that Biafra would be settled on the battlefield, was the one who definitely did not want peace.

unstableaswater:
Deny who? I be Peter? I can confidently tell u that girl is Yoruba.

Haba!! Why you dey lie like dis nah? All liars go to hell fire, o! I really want you to make heaven.

Rinsola32:
Mercy Aigbe and Doris Simeon nko?

They are Edo babes.

unstableaswater:
Have u ever heard her speak igbo abi na igboid? Wat language does she speak? U have to be careful and technical with labeling. Do Ika call themselves Igbo?
I remember we had a coach by the name of Sunday Oliseh who denied being igbo without even being asked if he was Igbo. Like i said, she is not Igbo.
There is wat is called final chance, go and check 80% bump in get pregnant and bump out or lagos state loot is in circulation.

Chimo!! Were you not the same person arguing on another thread in the Politics section, that Ika people were nothing but Igbo, because they bear Igbo names & their language is a dialect of Igbo? Now, you are here denying them. O di egwu. Just because your Ika sister has done something unpleasant, you are now denying not just her, but her whole ethnic group.

Tomorrow, when your fellow IPOBians decide to redraw the map of Biafra, and proceed to include Ika areas, I shall happily remind you of this day!

unstableaswater:
She is not Igbo, she cannot speak the language and she dont know the culture, besides i read that she is a yoruba movie actress and fluent in yoruba. She is yoruba abeg.

Guy, why you dey lie like dis, nah? At your age? So Awele resemble Yoruba name for yah eye?

tobida:
Odita sounds Urhobo. Sooner or later, she too will be swapped 4 another longer throat that is much younger. Na everyday girls they launch into womanhood.

Odita is not an Urhobo name. If you get to a place like Onicha Ugbo, in Aniocha North local government area of Delta state, you will find indigenes of that area, bearing this name.

nkwako:
Yoruba girls are shameless

Is Awele Odita, a Yoruba girl? I thought she was Delta-Igbo?

Ok, some story tellers are using Akenzua's memo to claim that someone else scuttled the chances of a peaceful resolution. Akenzua was just one of the permanent secretaries in Gowon's cabinet. Other permanent secretaries saw things differently. Here is another perspective.

I mentioned in another thread, that Decree 8 met 80% of the demands Ojukwu made at Aburi, yet some simpletons rained invectives on me. A wise man would have accepted the decree, and pushed for its implementation, with a view to getting the rest of his demands met, at the end of some other day. But not Ojukwu. He threw everything out of the window, and announced a secession. Now, it is gratifying to see that some other folks have analysed the whole issue, and reached the same conclusion.

Here is another view shared by former super permanent secretary Philip Chukwuedo Asiodu's in an old interview concerning Decree 8 of 1967:

WHY ABURI ACCORD FAILED, BY ASIODU |tnv | THE NIGERIAN VOICE |

Asiodu: But coming back from what I was saying. Go and read decree 8, if we had implemented it - in three months, we would have had four independent states.

Q: Why was it not implemented?

Asiodu: "Because, it didn't satisfy the Easterners. The decree had been promulgated by Gowon. It was to be implemented then. But it was seen by Ojukwu as not being sufficient. I am saying that politics is something which has to be played with some tact. Sometimes my brothers there see black and white where there is immediately green in between. Sometimes, there is really no finesse in politics. They will think the reality is not important as how you get there. The reality was that Nigeria was finished under decree number 8. The reality is that although it was finished, they didn't proclaim 'we hereby dissolve Nigeria'. But that was of no effect. You go and read it. But it was rejected...." https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/thread/12170/87243/1

Asiodu: "Then few of us- Alison Ayida, late Aliu Martins, myself, Abdulaziz, who served in the East, 'we went to ask Ojukwu what is it you want so that we could prepare the ground for a meaningful conference, where every side would know what they are saying.' Eventually, just as Ojukwu was warming up to tell us what he wanted , so that we could have come back to Lagos, sell those ideas to Gowon, and see if we can reach agreement, C. C. Mojekwu came and broke up the meeting.

He destroyed that last chance, and we flew back empty handed. Before they started cooking up the Aburi, they went to with unequal preparation. But before then, General Gowon was only communicating with him as an officer. He did know that behind Ojukwu, people were working. So, we didn't want Ojukwu to get the wrong impression. In anyway, we then agreed that a letter be prepared, addressed from my house, signed by Alison Ayida,who was in Oxford (cuts in, he was in Oxford too?) at the same time? Two of us signed this letter trying to spell out to him the consequences of what will happen if secession was declared. That there would be war and if there is war, until you vanquished federal authority, you will not get recognition which will give you access to the sea, and so on.

I can be embittered. I can feel for my people. But I have a duty to make sure that every step I take, I have calculated all the scenarios and make sure that in the worst scenario , I am not taking them to a worst decision. https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/thread/12170/87243/1

Asiodu:"When they subjected this Aburi accord to simple analysis, it was simply saying Nigeria is no more practically. And as far as was concerned, the civil war or no civil war, then chaos would have started later. All the same, we said look, … if we still want to be a country….authority which deals with customs, currency, federal trunk roads, foreign and external defences, that is more than enough for a government. But it must be able to act.

You can not say that in the Ministry of Defence, you can not promote somebody a Lt Col, except you have a unanimity. You cannot move one plane to another place except through unanimity. Even when you have those limited powers, they must be able to function. And you cannot function in the context of those things they said. And then what you have is four countries.

Q:And the permanent secretaries vetoed it?
Asiodu: "No. The permanent secretary made analysis and said look, if you are really serious, if you say you are having Nigeria, you must have central function which must be fulfilled. There is no need saying this is central function and you cannot fulfill it. So, we analysed and said these were based on incorrect premises. People came with proper papers, well formulated. The other side just went thinking they were going to do initial breaking of the ice. Therefore, please try to reconcile this to ensure that we still have a country.

Gowon in fairness, vetoed that approach, and still proceeded to have decree number 8 of 1967. If you go and read that decree, and if the East had accepted that decree, there would have been no need for secession. Nigeria would have disintegrated within three months. And you can not move anybody without unanimity. You collect revenue, you cannot transfer it…"

Q: Decree 8 was an affirmation of Aburi accord?
Asiodu: It was an affirmation of the Aburi accord which gave the East under Ojukwu, more than 95 per cent of what Aburi meant. But because there were maybe one or two phrases which they didn't like, if they read that thing and it is still there, they'd have got what they wanted. But it was such that, hostilities would have broken out among four independent countries. Not one on one.

And I think, we don't have much time now. With the present challenges in the country and the lack of serious effort to address the issue, we may even be in worse position if we are not careful. Because, this time, it will not be federal versus Biafra, but among 110 million people. So we are going to end up with warlords, if authorities should finally break down and I appeal to God that we avoid that, by stopping all these jokes as if we can continue milking this country forever.

What we are doing is not sustainable. And the sooner we address, try to create a new national austerity programme, discipline ourselves, decide that we cannot be millionaires, billionaires in little islands with a whole ocean of poor wretched people, there would be this tsunami which will overwhelm all of us.https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/thread/12170/87243/1

jollymizzle:
The day I saw the list of oil block owners in Nigeria was the day I knew this country would never break no matter what we think. Every tribe and region is represented, even though the people from SS should have more. The elite that shares the national cake wont allow that. And this people come from diffence parole of Nigeria. Not the bogus 70% nothern ownership claims. So anybody agitating for a break up is wasting his or her time. What we should agitate about is accountability, the gap between the upper and middle class etc

Bros, your post make sense, die!! Biko, collect two chilled bottles from Mama 'Tega's shop down the road. Tell her that all the drinks are on me!

SuperS1Panther:
@ laudeate -- thanks for posting th concluding part of their narratives.

The OP deliberately left that part out.

The bottom line is whether they embraced peace or not, they were resoundingly defeated and turned to war slaves and booties. End of story.

You dey mind dem? I am used to their lies, half-truths and petty propaganda by now, as well as the way they like to twist facts and embellish historical narratives to suit their own narrow perspectives. Some of them keep forgetting that various accounts of the civil war, are already in public domain. Anyone with an open mind who is interested in learning the truth can read up all these different accounts, and verify them.

But what our IPOBic friends like doing, is to take one section that favours their (un)righteous cause, wave it like a flag to bolster their stand, and pull down other ethnic groups who they see as their perceived enemies. God pass all of them!

Cutehector:
Saying an Igbo man can never be president of Nigeria is an insult to the authority of the Most high God...

No matter how lost in senses thousands of Nigerians are, whoever God allows to be president, will be president.

Why are you guys talking about an Igbo presidency? Una no want Biafra again??

SpecialAdviser:
Going 2ru this piece showed me how humble and peace loving Ojukwu was.

I'm impressed. What impresses me more is that those who frustrated any peace move have suffered for their stubbornness and their generation are still suffering.

Are you talking about the same Ojukwu that scuttled the peace moves to end the war? What on earth was peace-loving about a man who boasted that "even the grasses would fight for Biafra?" The same man who amassed unarmed civilians in the fields of Enugu university campus and sent them to the battlefield against federal soldiers that were carrying weapons? Did those human lives matter to him? Please read the rest of the article before you comment.

In his book "The Struggle for Secession, 1966-1970: A Personal Account of the Nigerian Civil War" on page 96, Ntieyong U. Akpan stated that " As far as I was concerned, the very idea of sending unarmed and innocent civilians to be slaughtered was heinous, and considerably destroyed my respect for the Governor as a human being and as a leader."