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Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 3:13pm On Feb 13, 2017
blues2022:
[s]@laudate, you‘ll soon meet your waterloo, oh two-faced Janus. Cloaking behind innocent postulation, and pushing your anti-Igbo agenda, will not shield you…. Your obsession will lead to your deserved end[/s].

Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 3:12pm On Feb 13, 2017
Newmanluckyman:
.... I engaged you in a friendly and educative discourse thinking that you are matured enough for it but alas, I was HUGELY DISAPPOINTED.
Who cares??

Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 3:06pm On Feb 13, 2017
nku5:
I have never seen a grown man do this..

So when you claim that Gowon won the war do you mean that Gowon singlehandedly defeated Biafra?

So because Igbos are now involved the military chain of command suddenly doesnt matter and a commander is suddenly not relevant? Same way 1976 coup is not "Plateau coup" but the 1966 coup is "Igbo coup"?

Besides shamelessly dribbling and denying what you typed for the world to see you now want to contest Ademoyega's account that the plotters because it easily crushes your propaganda and lies. Even if I upload another account regarding Sardauna's resistance to Nzeogwu's men you will still look for a cockroach hole to hide from the truth grin

My goodness...
And I have never seen a grown man like you, hiding under the garment of inanities and digression, in a bid to escape from the truth. Grow up. sad

I have answered you as to why the January 1966 coup was seen as an Igbo coup, while the 1976 coup was not seen as a Plateau affair. Go back and re-read my comments with an open mind for better understanding, if you can. undecided

As for the Sardauna's death, you have not said anything that makes sense. The Sardauna did NOT resist arrest, yet he was killed. His wife Habsetu, did not resist arrest but she was shot in cold blood. Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and Festus Okotie-Eboh did not resist arrest, but were still shot by Igbo coup plotters. Why? Try to answer the questions, without digressing again, or clutching at lame straws like the 1976 coup or FFK's father!
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 3:00pm On Feb 13, 2017
nku5:
This gets more childish with each reply you type. Stop scurrying around and dribbling yourself, you are smarter than this! Let me spell your 50 kobo sense out for you -

You typed some unbelievable jagbajantis in your post -

1. That Fani-Kayode escaped while Nwobosi's men were trying to get Akintola in Ibadan

2. That the same Fani-Kayode who "escaped" in Ibadan was freed in Officer Mess, Ikoyi, Lagos

3. That Ironsi cannot be given credit for the release of Fani-Kayode by the troops that he (Ironsi) commanded because he didnt do it personally huh Chai!!

Its as if you are playing dumb to save face and it wont work. Stand by your words like a man and stop looking for silly, shallow holes to hide...
You see, your childish tactics are getting more ridiculous by the minute. undecided It has become a form of comic relief on this thread. I have made several valid points on this thread, backed by facts. But you are only fixated on the aspect that concerns Fani-Kayode, as if it puts coins in your pocket. And the only reason you are doing this, is to deflect attention away from the questions I asked you, which you cannot answer.

For the umpteenth time: The Sardauna, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and Festus Okotie-Eboh did not resist arrest, but were still shot by Igbo coup plotters. Why??
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 2:46pm On Feb 13, 2017
Newmanluckyman:
.... But why the insult? Is this not supposed to be a friendly discourse? So your lies and hypocrisy have been punctured. Desist from outright falsehood. From the bolded, please who are the 'people'? So I can rightly say that ' people 'said that you are from Togo. Truth is the oxygen of the soul.
It was not an insult, but a description of you and your actions. Do you deny that you have multiple identities on NL? As for lies and falsehood, yourself and your brothers, have been regurgitating it repeatedly. sad Simply do a content analysis of their posts, and the facts will be revealed.

My own comments have been backed with facts and different sources. While those recycled by your friends and yourself have been filled with conjecture, fallacy and assumptions. So, desist from spreading utter lies, please. Now, who is telling lies and peddling falsehood, but you and your IPOB-ian friends on this thread?
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 2:38pm On Feb 13, 2017
nku5:
grin grin grin grin grin grin

This is shameful. Jokes apart.

The accurate half of your confused post states that Fani Power was FREED AT THE MESS. Why are you still asking k-legged questions? Ironsi's troops were AT the mess when Nwobosi's group arrived. IRONSI'S men arrested them and freed Fani-Kayode
Haba!! You are the shameful one, now! You said that Fani-Kayode was freed by an Igbo son, who was Ironsi. Point of correction - loyal troops or officers of the Nigerian Army were at the mess, when Nwobosi's men got there. Yet, Ironsi was nowhere near the Federal Officers' Guard Mess when Fani-Kayode was escorted by the acting Minister of Defence, out of captivity. So why are you ascribing Fani-Kayode's escape from death to him?? undecided

Finally, answer the simple question that you have been asked repeatedly on this thread: "The Sardauna, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and Festus Okotie-Eboh did not resist arrest, but were still shot by Igbo coup plotters. Why??
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 2:31pm On Feb 13, 2017
nku5:
Watching you dribble yourself, split hairs and score own goals is sad to watch
Oh, because I omitted the word 'death' from the second comment, you are now jubilating? undecided Trust you, to seize on inconsequential omissions. Ok, where is the answer to my previous question: The Sardauna, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and Festus Okotie-Eboh did not resist arrest, but were still shot by Igbo coup plotters. Why?? This is the 5th time this question has been thrown at you, and you have remained mute. When are you going to provide an answer? shocked
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 2:27pm On Feb 13, 2017
Newmanluckyman:
... In your deliberate bid to buttress your points that 1966 coup was an 'igbo coup', you have unwittingly let the cat out of the bag. So you have finally believed that there are indigenous igbos in Midwest now South South? Also, that Osadebe Dennis the former premier of the Midwest is also an igbo man? So you won't deny anymore that there wasn't any indigenous igbos in Niger Delta? If you answer yes to those questions objectively, do you now see why igbos referred to themselves as SE/SS? Hope you won't continue making caricature of igbos or saying that they are attaching themselves to SS. It is only the truth that will set us free and it begins with you now. Goodluck bro.
I do not know what kind of answer you want, you this chameleon with multiple identities. undecided On different threads, people said 'Anioma people were NOT Igbo.' Your IPOB crew screamed blue murder and alleged vociferously that they were Igbo, using all the ammunition and propaganda at their disposal. Those who disagreed with them were labelled Afonja and insulted to an inch of their lives. Okay, o! undecided

Now today, people are saying on this thread that Anioma folks are Igbo, and you are still complaining. What exactly do you want? And why are you getting worked up, by this statement? Afterall, not all the Igbo coup plotters were Anioma. Other Igbo coup plotters like Onwuatuegwu who was an Igbo from Nnewi, and Anuforo who also hailed from the South-East were part of the whole event. sad
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 2:11pm On Feb 13, 2017
nku5:
All this twisting of grammar is pointless. Were the plotters of the 1976 coup mainly of Angas/Plateau stock? Simple yes or no. If yes why did you and yours not label it as "Plateau coup"?

After all despite concrete statements in Ademoyega's 35 year old, unchallenged,authoritative book to the contrary, you and people like you are still contorting yourselves into odd shapes to insist that the 1966 coup was an "Igbo coup".

The main plank of this thread is an article which alleges that Igbos as a group somehow deserve blame for Nzeogwu and co. So relax, we will examine every angle to this discussion.
Guy, there is no twisting of grammar anywhere. sad In fact, if any twisting has been done, it has been carried out just by you. I have answered your question as to why the January 1966 coup has been tagged an Igbo coup - it was because the shots that were fired by coup plotters that night to kill political leaders from other ethnic groups, came from Igbo soldiers. Is that explicit enough? huh

Now answer my questions on the deaths of the Sardauna, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and Festus Okotie-Eboh. Still waiting! undecided
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 1:10pm On Feb 13, 2017
Military boys who hailed from Northern minority communities, carried out a coup against their fellow military compatriots who hailed from the core north, which led most people to view it as a military affair. Yet someone is HERE, complaining that it was not tagged a Plateau/Angas coup?? I laugh in Greek!! cheesy wink grin
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate:
nku5:
In line with your logic, the officers that overthrew and shot Murtala and others in 1976 were predominantly from Plateau State so why was the 1976 coup not branded a Plateau/Angas Coup? You dont harbour hatred for them so automatically the ethnic angle should not stand abi? Abeg park well you cannot bring case and judge yourself winner in your own case Thats for kids...
Oh, that is the new angle you want to start from? wink Murtala Mohammed came from....where? Dimka, Bisalla & co, who killed him hailed from ....where? huh A lot of Southerners saw it as a Northern coup, carried out by Northern minorities against core Northern chaps. Apart from that, the coup plotters and coup victims were all military men (i.e. military boys vs. military generals). And people tagged it as such, or how else would people have described it? It was quite different from the January 1966 coup, where military boys summarily executed elected civilian political leaders of other ethnic groups, who were unarmed except for one person. sad

Now, stop digressing. If the 1976 coup bothers you so much, start another thread for it, and we can open up discussions there. Do not derail this thread, biko.
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 12:41pm On Feb 13, 2017
escapefromusa:
Your base you entire argument on Fajuyi . Your logic is as follows:

Since Fajuyi is Yoruba and supported a largely Ibo coup plotist, the coup could have never been an Ibo thing.

However, if it were not an Ibo coup an eastern leader would not have emerged. Neither would a majority of the post be given to easterners
You forgot to add: All the political leaders from other ethnic groups who were killed during the coup, were shot by soldiers of Igbo extraction. And for that reason, most people gave the coup an ethnic colouration. The NL e-warriors on this thread, have been struggling to rewrite this aspect of history. undecided

Yet they are the ones that have argued ad nauseaum on other threads, that Anioma people are nothing, but Igbo. Now that people are calling the Anioma coup plotters Igbo, they are offended and have started making noise. Odi egwu! cheesy
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate:
nku5:
You just shot your argument in the foot.On one hand you say Fani-Kayode escaped from his captors while Akintola was being shot at, on the other hand you quote Akinjide's account which states that Fani-Kayode was taken from Ibadan to Federal Guards Mess, Ikoyi, Lagos! There he was released by "Loyal Troops". Who was in charge of the loyal troops in Lagos that morning?

Was it not General Ironsi, a confirmed Onye Igbo?
Stop weaving stories you cant defend

You have easily confirmed what Ademoyega said in his book and on the page I uploaded. Like I said you are welcome to your prejudice but your narratives are dropping dead faster than flies in a baygon factory. Just accept you are driven by hate not facts stop stressing yourself
I said Fani-Kayode escaped death. sad And anyone reading through all the accounts connected with his escape, would realise that he escaped death through the hand of Providence, not because an onye Igbo rescued him. Was it Ironsi that personally took him out of the grip of his captors who abducted him, did Ironsi take him to the barracks? As for the other questions I asked, you have dodged it several times on this thread by latching on to irrelevant stories.

Oya, for the last time, "Sardauna, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and even Festus Okotie-Eboh did not resist arrest, yet they were killed! Why?? And those who killed them hailed from which ethnic group?" Abi, your bible on the war written by Ademoyega did not contain answers to this question, as well? shocked shocked
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 12:30pm On Feb 13, 2017
blues2022:
[s]Niga, if you got the balls, face me directly and stop acting bitchy. Who is raised on a diet of propaganda other than you that derived orgasm in spreading falsehood against Indi'Igbo? On every Igbo thread, you must be there, either to cheer your cohorts up, or throw in your skeletal jabs. I've ignored you for too long, I don't mind loosing my moniker, but I'll make sure you get it dirty right here. Anufia.[/s] angry

Politics › Re: ONITSHA AGAIN? Abeg No Be ME Talk Am Oh! by laudate: 12:28pm On Feb 13, 2017
omenkaLives:
Okada, abeg park here..

#Climbs down, spreads mat, brings out pop corn and zobo...

Oya, let the show begin! grin grin grin
Ba-aa-ad guy! So na here you dey? cheesy
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 10:14am On Feb 13, 2017
obaaderemi:
I saw your update.That is actually the general version;that fanikayode was taken to lagos;even if your earlier version is incorrect,that illiterate specimen was also wrong by saying fani was rescued by an igbo army officer.On another note,it seems everyone who had written a book about the events of that period has been economical with the truth.we will never know everything about that time.
Like I keep saying, there are many perspectives to an event. undecided People talk about the coup and the subsequent war, from the perspective that they know, or the side of events that they witnessed. The best thing to do is to read widely, and study as many different accounts as possible, from as many different personae who witnessed the events. Then put the events together in chronological order, and only accept those that stand the test of truth and accuracy, or the ones corroborated by solid evidence. cool

A few have been brainwashed by propaganda spun by individuals, who did not actually witness the event. And they have taken it as the gospel truth. Nku5, vanbonattel and dede know how to wallow in conjecture, presumptions, assumptions, hypothetical assertions and falsehood. Each time I read their comments, I just laugh. I haven't laughed so hard in years. grin

One of their clownish supporters here, is even trying really hard to claim that Awolowo masterminded the January 1966 coup, because the coup plotters planned to make him the new head of government if they succeeded. How was he in support of the coup?? Did Awolowo plan any coup with them, or supply them with information, guns, resources and materials? Don't forget that Awo was even in prison, at that time. sad

I still keep asking, Sardauna, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and even Festus Okotie-Eboh did not resist arrest, yet they were killed! And those who killed them hailed from which ethnic group? huh

One fact that can never be rewritten, is that during that coup the only soldiers that fired the shots that killed political leaders from other ethnic groups, were Igbo. Fact!
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 9:55am On Feb 13, 2017
BabaRamota1980:
Everybody spit on Igbo, everybody! Even the smallest minority in Nigeria make fun of Igbo and mock you. You are the rug underfoot, every ethnic group wipe feet on you.
Haba!! shocked You are too harsh! sad Stop judging every Igbo person by the antics of the clowns on this thread, who like to spread falsehood and misinformation. The chap you are responding to, was raised on a diet of propaganda. Just ignore him.
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 9:52am On Feb 13, 2017
Mimi525:
That is so stupid. How do people think that we are not better together. Whether or not you understand it the bigger the country's land mass, the better chances a country can succeed. The Hausa's have vast land for farming. Igbo's have oil, and the yoruba's have infrastructure and technology. How do you not realize the beautiful things the three cultures can do for the country. Only older folks are stuck with this stupid mentality. The younger Igbo's, yoruba's and Hausa's dont engage in this petty nonsense. We have found a way to live peacefully in Lagos and become productive with the help of everyone. What is wrong with Your generation. If White people can get along with black people in ghettos in the USA. What excuse do you have. Lets stop this ridiculous infighting and and find a way to get rid of our corrupt leaders of every tribe, and move foward.
Your remarks are beautiful and they make a lot of sense. But you are preaching to people who are ill-informed and thrive on propaganda. Save your breath, because they won't listen. Their minds have been clouded by prejudice and hate. undecided
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 12:43am On Feb 13, 2017
obaaderemi:
He can't.u are gonna wait a long time.u have the boy cornered already like the mouse he is.
I have even updated my previous comment, but I am beginning to feel that Ademoyega's book contains a few errors. I may be wrong, however. But it does not detract significantly from the other parts of the book.
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate:
nku5:
Na wa o. I uploaded page 115 of Ademoyega's book and instead of confirming you are asking for links?

Ademoyega totally does justice to your questions but you want links from NL and Gamji? Haba come up with a counter thats based on facts bro. Simply denying reality can't cut it in a discussion of this level.
It has been published that Fani-Kayode was abducted by Nwobosi's men, and driven to Akintola's house. He escaped death from there, while gun fire was being exchanged by both parties. So how was he rescued or recaptured? In what way did Ademoyega do justice to my questions, please? shocked You are the one who made an assertion, so the onus is on you to prove it. Guy, is it that you did not understand my question, or you are deliberately playing the ostrich? huh That page from Ademoyega's book did not contain the actual blow-by-blow details of how Fani-Kayode escaped death, and your claim that 'he was rescued by soldiers controlled by an Igbo man?' So can you please provide the url link or source showing the exact details of how Fani-Kayode escaped death on the night of the coup, and the name of the Igbo man who rescued him with soldiers? Still waiting! undecided

Here is an excerpt from another article, on what eventually happened to the late Chief Fani-Kayode:

Corroborating Akinjide’s account, according to Shehu Shagari, in his Book “Beckoned to Serve”,

“…....….At about 7.00 am, I returned to Dipcharima’s residence to meet with some NPC ministers who had gathered there. Dipcharima was then the most senior NPC minister available. We received the latest reports on the situation, first from Alhaji Maitama Sule, Minister of Mines and Power, who had visited the PM’s residence by bicycle! We then heard from Alhaji Ibrahim Tako Galadima, the acting Minister of Defence, who had brought along with him Chief Fani-Kayode.

Chief Fani-Kayode said he had been fetched from Ibadan early that morning by rebels and locked up at the Federal Guard Officers Mess in Dodan Barracks, where the mutineers initially made their headquarters. Disguised in army uniform, loyal troops handed him over to Alhaji Galadima, who had called in at the barracks, which was a stone’s throw of his residence. http://www.waado.org/NigerDelta/Nigeria_Facts/MilitaryRule/Omoigui/NorthCounterCoup.htm
I do not even want to talk about Chief Festus Okotie-Eboh the late Finance Minister who did NOT resist arrest but was also killed by the coup plotters.
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 10:15pm On Feb 12, 2017
nku5:
Oga. Your facts do not tally. Yes Sardauna's guards were doing their job but at least you can agree that the coup plotters agreed they would do it. It was NOT something few Igbo soldiers agreed to on their own.

Akintola opened fire and was killed by returned fire. Fani Power was abducted and largely unharmed because he did not resist and was eventually rescued by the soldiers controlled by an Igbo man!!
That is why I said the final outcome or what happened in reality, was totally different from what Ademoyega spoke about in his book. What the coup plotters agreed upon, did not play out in real life. And we can only take stock of what transpired during the actual event. Not draw conclusions based on presumptions or assumptions.

I repeat Sardauna himself was NOT armed and did not resist arrest, so why did they still go ahead to kill him? They also not only shot the Sardauna, but also his wife (whose name was Habsetu) and his traditional bodyguard (whose name was Zarumi) and who had fought back with a sword. Abubakar Tafawa Balewa was NOT armed, and did not resist arrest, yet they still abducted and shot him. shocked

Fani-Kayode's account of his escape, is quite different from what you have stated here. You claim 'he was rescued by soldiers controlled by an Igbo man?' huh Please provide the details along with the relevant url links or sources, so we can all read it and verify!
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 9:41pm On Feb 12, 2017
nku5:
Sardauna's security resisted and Aare Ona Kakanfo opened submachine gun fire on the plotters. Fani Kayode didnt resist and was spared. True or false?

What happened in the case of Okpara?
Guy, Sardauna's security was only performing his job, and the coup plotters ended up killing him for that, so why did they still go ahead to kill Sardauna who was unarmed and with his wives? shocked SLA Akintola engaged the coup plotters in a gun duel, and so he lost his life. But Fani-Kayode was not released or spared by the coup plotters, he escaped from them while they were opening gun fire on Akintola, and no one was paying attention to him. Read his account, it is widely circulated on the internet.

Abubakar Tafawa Balewa the late Prime Minister did not resist arrest, so why was he killed? huh
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 9:37pm On Feb 12, 2017
nku5:
Ademoyega sheds light on this. Could you shed some light on how Igbo political leaders were allowed to "escape". Where are your facts?
Alright, you don't believe they escaped? Maybe these articles will shed more light on how Igbo political leaders such as Chief Dennis Osadebe (who was Premier of the old Midwestern region and an Igbo son), as well as Dr. Michael Iheonukara Okpara Premier of the old Eastern region, escaped death. The first excerpt is from a newspaper interview granted by Chief Mbazulike Amechi, who was First republic parliamentarian and the first post-Independence Minister of Aviation.

January 15 1966 coup: Why they called it an Igbo coup — Mbazulike Amechi ON JANUARY 15, 2016 8:25 AM / IN NEWS, POLITICS / VANGUARD NEWSPAPER |

ON the coup: On January 15, 1966, they struck and turned the weapons which we issued to them to defend the country, on the government and the leaders that issued the weapons to them. In the process, they killed the Prime minister of the country; they killed the premier of the West; they killed the premier of the North.

They were about to kill the premier of the East but what saved Dr Michael Okpara was that Archbishop Macarious, the president of Cyprus, was his guest that night and probably they wouldn’t want war between Cyprus and Nigeria. On the other hand they could not kill Chief Dennis Osadebey because there was no Army in Benin at the time of the coup and so Osadebey managed to escape. They also killed Chief Festus Okotie-Eboh, the Federal Minister of Finance. They also killed some members of their own group. For example, Brigadier Maimalari was innocently killed. My close friend, Colonel Arthur Unegbe was also killed. He was in charge of the Armoury and because he was reluctant to release the Armoury to them, they shot and killed him in his house.
Read more at:
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/01/january-15-1966-coup-why-they-called-it-an-igbo-coup-mbazulike-amechi/
The Inside Story of Nigeria's First Military Coup - Part 2 By Max Siollun.

At around 2am Ifeajuna and some lieutenants left the 2nd Brigade HQ and made their way to Prime Minister Abubakar Tafewa Balewa’s residence. They overpowered (but did not kill) the police officers standing guard there, and Ifeajuna kicked down the door of the Prime Minister’s bedroom before leading him out at gunpoint. It appears that while the arrest of the Prime Minister was part of the plot, his murder may not have been and Ifeajuna and some of his co-conspirators may have exceeded their orders in killing him. In the aftermath of the coup, Nzeogwu rattled off a list of names that were on the Majors hit list. He mentioned the usual unsurprising suspects such as Bello, Azikiwe, and Akintola. Balewa’s name was conspicuously absent. Balewa was not killed until it was clear that the coup was doomed to fail. Balewa asked for, and was given time to say his prayers before he was shot by Major Ifeajuna. It was clear that not all arrested persons were to be killed. Some politicians (such as Sir Kashim Ibrahim and Michael Okpara) were arrested but released unharmed. http://www.gamji.com/article6000/NEWS6574.htm
It was later learned that these young officers started planning a coup as early as August 1965 but on 15 January 1966 (now 51 years ago), they struck with devastating effect. They had planned to captured and execute the Prime Minister, President, the three Premiers and other top government officials, then take over the ruins of power. This seemed like the perfect plan.

On that day, in the North, Prime Minister Alhaji Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and Premier Alhaji Ahmadu Bello were killed. The Premier of the western region, Chief Ladoke Akintola was also killed but Igbo officers from the East did not carry out the plan of assassination on the President, Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe and Eastern Premier, Michael Okpara for reasons that were too good to be believed – that the President was out of the country.

Of all times, it was shortly before the coup that Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe miraculously left the country and escaped being killed? How about the Senate President, Chief Nwafor Orizu who was also an Igbo and in charge while the president was away? How about the eastern Premier? It was now evident that this was a clear case of sabotage. For whatever reasons, Igbo officers spared the leaders from region and that didn’t excite anyone.
http://dailypost.ng/2017/01/05/usha-anenga-january-1966-coup-lessons-benue-youths/
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 8:58pm On Feb 12, 2017
Eledan:
You are right, but they subjected the man to some koboko lashes sha grin
Very funny. wink I actually had the privilege of meeting the man in real life a few years before he died. cheesy He was witty, urbane, charming and so full of life and had tons of knowledge. I wish he had written his biography before he died. And he had a lot of books and confidential papers relating to government matters, in the '60s and '70s. Only God knows what happened to them. sad
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate:
nku5:
I can understand your prejudice but read carefully what Ademoyega had to say about who the plotters agreed they would use lethal force on.
Guy, what prejudice are you talking about? shocked There is a massive difference between what Ademoyega said, and what actually took place in reality, when the coup was eventually carried out. Ademoyega said that the Prime Minister and the Premiers from the 4 regions were to be arrested, but only killed if they resisted or used force. Did that happen? huh No! These men (with the exception of the Premier of the Eastern region who escaped,) were summarily executed! And this was done by the coup plotters of Igbo extraction. To deny this, is to attempt to rewrite history. undecided
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 8:49pm On Feb 12, 2017
Eledan:
Cowards you all are!!
The Northerners make no pretense about how they see the war judging by their response in July 1966 and don't hide it, only Ibos want us to think that the Jan coup has nothing to do with Igbos when the facts is clearly otherwise.
Go and convince Brig Maimalari, FFK father, Sardauna, Bello, Ademulegun and numerous people that your drunken ibo idiots brothers and murdered in cold blood
Erm... FFK's father escaped being killed during the coup. But SLA Akintola was murdered. cry
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 8:28pm On Feb 12, 2017
vanbonattel:
The beating is too much on him, confusion has set in on his afonja brain grin
Nah, everyone can see that Eledan took you and your friend to the cleaners! cool

Eledan:
Igbo traders that need Yoruba market to survive?
Is your brain working ? grin
Hmm... good point. sad The market in the South-West, helps them make money. Without it, what would happen? huh I don't even want to think about it.
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate:
vanbonattel:
You are not peaceful, we are just more determined to coexist in spite of your hate. And we always win while you simmer with hate and send agberos to go harass our people. Sometimes they fight the eze ndi igbo, sometimes you just wake up and boil with envy.

You need to advice your people. Tribalism kills, of what use is your hate since all those years, has it stopped us? Have it made us to stop making our money?

Kontinuu grin
So many people from other ethnic groups (including minority tribes like my own) settle in Lagos, and live amicably with their hosts. But why is it always your own people that stoke the embers of conflict? shocked If in your view the people of the South-west (i.e. the Yoruba) are tribalistic, doesn't it make sense for you chaps to stop populating their cities in droves? All the money you make in Lagos, can still be made by your people if they stay in the East, not so? Why not stay back in your own districts or regions, to avoid the tribalism you keep talking about? Just saying. sad

vanbonattel:
He must be a beneficiary of Awolowo free and useless education which deformed the south west grin
Guy, Awolowo's free education was enjoyed by the Western Igbo people who formed part of the old Midwest region. Please never forget that. Many of them would NOT have become the successful people they are today, without the benefit of Awolowo's free education programme. Do your research. sad
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 8:13pm On Feb 12, 2017
nku5:
Sorry to burst your bubble but I cant on account of your NL post, discard the written account by Major Adewale Ademoyega, one of the masterminds of the coup who said it was by no means a tribal matter.

It was a patrotic act by young idealistic officers. Revisionists like you turned it to a tribal matter and are the ones responsible for starting the war, setting Nigeria backwards and to a large extent are responsible for the likely coming division of this country
Alright, the coup was not a tribal matter. undecided But out of all the coup plotters from different tribes, who staged the coup, it was only the Igbo coup plotters who fired the shots that snuffed life out of the political leaders who hailed from other ethnic groups, while their own political leaders were allowed to escape. Are you happy now?? sad
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate:
Eledan:
Yes, that shows you the SW is the most prosperous part of Nigeria. The best of Igbos don't succeed until they step foot into Yoruba land. Tinubu stated same in the presence of your elders, that you only succeed in Nigeria if you come to the most prosperous and peaceful part of the country.
Your survival as a race depends on the tribe you love to hate
Deal with it grin
Chai!! Hehehe..... I don talk say I no go laugh today, but..... wink cheesy grin
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate:
Eledan:
Typical ibo, always ready to degenerate any elder that speaks what he doesn't want to hear
You are free to keep writing your trash, but the whole world have documentary evidences of the party's played by all actors, and most you won't like.
That chap you quoted is denigrating a man who is not only old enough to be his grandfather, but also someone who has served this country meritoriously. I doubt if he has achieved half of what Asiodu achieved as a young man, in Nigeria.

Who is Philip Chukwuedo Asiodu? He is a well-respected public figure and technocrat who served as a permanent secretary in Gowon's cabinet and also as a Minister of Petroleum in 1992/93. He attended Kings College Lagos, and later graduated from Oxford University in England with a bachelor's and Masters' degree in Politics, Philosophy and Economics. His brother was one of those who lost their lives in the Asaba massacre during the civil war.

Phillip Asiodu, (CON) (born 19 February 1934) is a Nigerian Diplomat, Bureaucrat and former Minister of Petroleum, Nigeria. He studied Philosophy, in Oxford University.

Life and career
Phillip was born February 26, 1934 in Lagos State, southwestern Nigeria. He attended King’s College before he proceeded to Queen's College, Oxford where he obtained a master's degree in Philosophy. He joined the Nigerian Civil service in 1964 and became the Federal Permanent Secretary, and first served under General Gowon before and during the Nigeria-Biafra war....

He later became Special Adviser to the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, Alhaji Shehu Shagari on economic affairs. In 1999, he was appointed Chief Economic Adviser to the former Nigerian President, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo. Among other leadership roles includes the planning and implementation of Nigeria’s oil and gas policies. He also took part in the negotiations for Nigeria’s admission into OPEC, 1971. Read the rest here
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_Asiodu
Born on 26th February, 1934. Chief Phillip Asiodu attended King’s College, Lagos with top grades before proceeding to the Queen’s College, Oxford where he read Philosophy, Politics and Economics (PPE).

Chief Phillip Asiodu entered the Nigerian Foreign Service at the age of 23 and rose to be Chancellor, Nigerian Mission to the UN in New York at the dawn of Nigeria’s independence. He was also Nigerian Representative in the Provisional Secretariat of the newly formed OAU. Now a renowned diplomat and bureaucrat, he moved over to the domestic Civil Service in 1964, where he was appointed Federal Permanent Secretary, in what was to culminate in the legendary top career that earned Asiodu (and one or two others) the sobriquet, Super Permanent Secretary. In 1983, he was appointed Special Adviser to the President (Shagari) and Chairman Cabinet Committee on Economic Affairs, returning to the similar post of Chief Economic Adviser to the President (Obasanjo) in 1999;

In between, he was Secretary (Minister) for Petroleum and Mineral Resources in the Transitional Council of 1992/93, and in 2001-2005, he served as a member of the Honorary Presidential Advisory Council on investment. He joined the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) in 1998, became a Trustee of the party, and in 1999 contested nomination as the party’s Presidential candidate: he was unsuccessful. He has served as Chairman and ear Trustee at different times on the Nigerian Conservation, WWF international and the National Committee of the World Energy Council. In private business, he has also served as Director or Chairman of several corporations, subsidiaries of multinationals; mainly manufacturing, oil, and banking sub-sectors.

Asiodu exudes great knowledge and confidence: he has indeed played high profile and leadership roles in the planning and implementation of Nigeria’s oil and gas policies, beginning with negotiations for Nigeria’s admission into OPEC, 1971. His other achievements in this sector include the establishment of NNOC, the recruitment of several Nigerian graduates for training abroad in oil technology, the partial nationalization of oil exploration and production, the decision in 1975 to establish two LNG plants, to build refineries in Warri and Kaduna, establish the Petroleum Training Institute (PTI) Warri (with Russian help).

Asiodu, is a past President of the Nigerian Economic Society; life Honorary Vice President of the Lagos Chamber of Commerce and Industries. He is a Fellow of the Nigerian Institute. Fellow of the Nigerian Institute of Management, Nigerian Institute of Directors and Honorary Fellow of the Nigerian Society of Mining & Geosciences.

He has been at different times President of the Nigerian-German Business Council, Chairman Nigerian Economic Summit Group (NESG) Board of Patrons and of its Policy and Governance Commission. He was also the recipient of the national honours of Commander of the Order of the Niger (CON). He is an Honorary Fellow of the Nigerian Academy of Engineering.
http://www.nae.org.ng/fellows_profiles.asp?id=24
Politics › Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 7:53pm On Feb 12, 2017
paramakina202:
Remember that some were fathered by Afonjas and Ewusas during the war,so op could be one of them.
Hmmmn..... sad

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