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ikechu1278:
You are so pathetic it's seen out of space. Tufiakwa!!!! Dude you stay on NL 24-7. It doesn't take much to know what type of person you are and you are nothing but a LOSER and I'm highly confident that family does not know you even exist and neither do you know who the heck they are...I'm so confident on that that of I'm wrong, let me be strick down right now and if you are fake as usual, let you stay in that country and suffer to death like you currently doing. Your behavior of saving by claiming "relatives" and "friends of relatives" of people you don't know, never met and will definately never meet is highly pathetic!!!! But Like I said I believe your desperate @ss. Just like each time you are called out, you automatically have family or friends or friends of relatives or so and so each places you're called out on, nigg@ yes you know the Douglas family...the same way you know Barack Obama's family...Mendela family....Idi Amin...Ojukwu's family...GEJ family...Buhari's family and even Jesus christ himself. Infact you were the best friend of Mary and the founder of facebook is your BFF. Tufiakwa!! What a loser.

Eeyah! This matter dey pain you too much! But you can lie, sha. And when you are not lying, you are busy exaggerating stories that you made up out of thin air. Check all my posts on NL. How many people have I claimed to know personally? Were they celebrities or politicians? List their names here. I have never claimed to know Obama's family, Mandela or Buhari's family etc. All that one is a huge figment of your imagination, and it underscores your propensity for exaggeration and falsehood.

As for tribes, yes... I have relatives from different tribes. Again, I ask you, why is that so difficult for you to understand? And why do you find it so offensive?? Do you know how many different marriages occur among people from different ethnic groups in Nigeria?? So why does the scenario of having relatives from different parts of Nigeria, become a problem to you? Maka, why?? Na wah for you, o! For some folks, their parents come from the same village, it is their destiny.

For others like us, our parents come from different ends of Nigeria, and so did our grandparents. It is the blessing of God, especially when the offspring of such union also grow up to marry outside their ethnic group. Don't burst a blood vessel on account of this issue o! Free your mind from hate. I am actually beginning to feel sorry for you because of the myopic hatred that has blinded your view! It just confirms that you are the one who is a real loser! And oh yeah, I say a big Amen to your prayers...may you be struck down right now.

Listen, in the early days of my career I worked for a newspaper house for several months which also had a few other publications, under its belt. I have since moved on to other things. In the process, I got to meet a lot of people, including one of the Graham-Douglas daughters, as well as their cousin at an event we covered. I built a few friendships during that period. Two of my friends from school also worked for their family in Port-harcourt. So what makes you think that knowing a member of the Graham-Douglas family is an impossibility?? I don't get it o! And where did I ever claim that I knew the entire family?? Did I ever use the word 'entire'? Your hate is making you irrational. And you then claimed that I stay on NL 24x7. How is that possible?? Even if I do, is it your bandwidth that I use to log on to NL?? Chukwu biko!

ikechu1278:
What a laughable joke. Nigeria of today library sucks and I'm talking about universities and your illiterate @ss is trying to appraise a country housing that even the hoods in America is better than having a "house library". I've been inside multiple homes in Nigeria and including some of the nicest, richest home and till date, I've yet to meet one with a house library. Even WTF you described is called a BOOK SHELF. Everbody on this planet has one, that does not mean they have a house librarty. Then again, WTF do I expect from someone living in a third, undeveloped nation.
This is a house library (notice how it resemble a common library)

and this is not a house library

Notice the difference...LEARN THE DIFFERENCE. I didnot think for a second I had to teach a grown man the difference between a house library and a book shelf. Tufiakwa!! When I said you're brain dead, you continue proving me accurate.

Again you are digressing and digging yourself deeper into a hole. In Alabo Abiye's article, there was no mention made of a university library, o! And you are also contradicting yourself. You claimed "this is a house library, notice how it resembles a common library."

Are you claiming that Graham-Douglas's library cannot be classified as a library, because it was a house library?? Or because it does not fit your ideology of what a library should be? Which one ?? The dictionary has already defined clearly what a library, is. But because that definition which is accepted worldwide, does not fit into your myopic view, you have decided to split hairs on the definition, by creating your own subjective classification, of what constitutes a library, and what does not. Okay, o.

As for your assertion that you visited many homes of rich people and you could not find a library, I want to ask if you tried to find out from them if they even had one. How many rich homes did you even visit, by the way?? As I told you earlier, libraries are often found in the homes of the intelligentsia. These folks may not necessarily be rich. So this strange attribute of equating wealthy homes with the possession of libraries, cannot hold true 100%. And for the record, the contents of a home, are the reflection of the owner or resident's taste. Some folks like having a library, because they are avid readers. Others do not. From your assertion, it is obvious that you are clueless about a lot of things. So do not use the few homes you have visited, as a yardstick to judge the rest.

ikechu1278:
Just like your illiterate @ss made the assumption I wouldn't question an unknown soliders name called if it was done by an igbo man is the same way you making more assumption and yet you wonder why I call you brain dead. You are more stupid than I talk. Oya, bring out more your own made up assumption? What's new?
Infact let's flip, the only reason you desperate to call a shelf a library is because it was done to a non-igbo by biafra is it not?

Your problem is you have the WORST reading comprehension known to men. I maintain the same statement I stated in my earlier post and I've yet to change it. Even broke it down in a microscopic level just so you can grasp it because bundling it up was difficulty for you and despite it all, you still demonstrate difficulty. So pathetic and sad. I'll repeat the exact same question I asked earlier WHO WERE THE SOLIDER PROTECTING THEM AGAINST? Themselves? So in your own myopic head, the soldiers are protecting them from them? They say commonsense is not always common to some people. You single handily proved that belief accurate.

Is this dude for real? Please permit me laugh Refer back to the top of my top post. While you at it, why would the government burn down the house of people they already have in custody if they wanted to do harm to them? For what reason, that's counter productive.
Let me make this simple in a way someone with your type of mindset can understand
You're pissed off and fuming enough to take anger out on anyone who opposed your view.
The individual your anger is currently directed at is currently in the custody of the government, do you a.) attack the government and soldiers with weapon in hopes of getting to the said person or b.) take your anger out on the property of the individual.
Psychologist would be B..not A for most human beings.

Now let's flip it
Biafra military is pissed off and fuming enough to take anger out on anyone who opposed the view of Biafra. Even made plans to do assassinate the individuals according to the OP of this moon light story
The individuals are already in your custody therefore, you can do any harm to them if you so wish.
Do you A.) attack them that's already in your custody, locked up in a jail away from family members, friends, etc that can help them or b.) attack their property and burn books
Sociologist says the answer would be A, not B.

Use the GEJ and PMB contest period as example. When GEJ went to north and the indigenous attacked him...did they go afer GEJ himself or did they go after his property aka the bus?

I didnot for a sec in my life think I'll be teaching common sense to a Grown man. Tufiakwa!!
Either you have no common sense at all or you've never taken any human services courses in your life or you desperately trying to twist logical sense upside it's head because you severally wish the act was done by Biafran solider or you just flat out dumb. Either way, your mind deserve in the museum..it's not normal in a bad way.

You ask the stupidest question..it is laughable. How do you expect Biafran soliders, whose population weren't high, to isolate and daily watch and protect indigienous that's against biafra? First of all, how do you expect them to differentiate from those for or against Biafra? Dude please for the sake God try and use your common sense..everybody should have one. I don't like teaching people what I feel like they should be able to do so by their damn self by just using their commonsense. I don't like being a teacher..that's not my job nor do I like breaking down to a microscopic level. This is the LAST TIME I am going break something that I personally think you should figure out without anyone simplifying it for you. Use your common sense, it's not hard, all you have to do is THINK. LAST TIME!!!!!! Anyway, you tell me how to you expect the soldiers and biafra leaders to differentiate for and pro biafra where in the eastern everyone was divided including in Igbo land. Who are they more likely to know their opinion on the matter...the political leaders who are more vocal, more known and interact with ojukwu and his leaders or ordinary individuals? Let's once again, use current event as example: If ISIS unite with BH and invade Nigeria right now and they had suicide bombers in every state in that zoo, who are the military very likely to protect and that country first? The indigenous or the leaders? Infact, let's not even make assumptions...during una mile12 whatever, who were the ones sent out of the country when the hostility increased tremendously? The indigenous or the leaders? who are the government of other nations willingly to grant political asylum first during unrest of a nation? The indigenous or the leaders? I can go on and on and on.
All I am going to say is WOW!!!!!!!!! I did not for a second think I have to teach a grown man common sense. WOW

REPEAT after me so it'll get through your head.. THERE IS NO COL OJEH OF DEGEMA. IT IS THE AUTHOR'S FIGMENT OF IMAGINATION.

Is this nigg@ for real? Again WOW. A river state man, an Ijaw precisely, killing other Ijaws and this said man name never spread. An Ijaw eldersman, Issac Boro, spoke of Biafra and again, he never mentioned it and you arguing that he exist..seriously I asked you are you brain dead or something?

It's now obvious. See what desperation does to a person. Why wouldn't a degema man know of a degema solider that supposedly killed the kalabari's and co during Biafra? If it truly happened, why would the Kalabari keep their mouth shut about it the entire time .

The BIafran soldiers and leaders have asked your government REPEATEDLY to present them the atrocity Biafra did as well as verifiable proof to back it up just like they did with theirs, let them all hash it out in the table. How come till date, your government have yet to oblige to the request? How come many waited to ojukwu passed on before their memory of biafra stories are being written and published? What stops the FG of the zoo from going to River state and getting those eye-witness accounts of the survivors as well as verifiable proof validating what the eye-witness said like they Biafran military did and present it to the Biafran past leaders as they have asked many times
Like they said those that win the war are usually the ones that write the history. The only difference in this case is biafrans refused to let una twist history upside the head and calling una out head on.

there is no truth to any of it and the only reason you are desperate to hold onto it as truth and even twist your body and trying to turn an imaginary col ojeh into a reality is because you are desperate to find anything wrong biafran soldiers did. sadly for you, the author of this made the dumbest mistake by quoting individuals know and also stupidly pulling names of out of nowhere and calling it "biafran solider" PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow!! You are frothing at the mouth over this issue of Col. Ojeh. And in order to prop up your weak assertions, you are displaying a lot of aggression. Take it easy, o! All your hypothetical questions simply point to the fact that your shortsighted perspective and warped mind, refuses to believe one Degema colonel who fought under the Biafran army committed atrocities in Rivers State, while wearing the Biafran uniform. What a pity.

The Ijaw people are quite large, o. And their population during the civil war, ran into hundreds of thousands, while today it runs into millions. I am glad to see that you have moved on from the single NL source who you were relying on, for verification (how slow you were, then!) to a different angle. Now, you are claiming that if truly he existed the larger Ijaw population would have heard about him. Well, not necessarily. If his atrocities were localised in one community, and not widespread to cover several Ijaw towns and villages, the other Ijaws and Kalabari may not have heard of him.

And your summations about Graham-Douglas' detention is still making me laugh. You had to reach into the realm of psychology to make your point. It still does not cover up the fact that you lied when you said 'eastern indigenous' folks burnt his property and books, when this assertion was not expressly stated anywhere. So stop running from pillar to post. Why would the eastern indigenous people harbour such animosity against Graham-Douglas? And what caused this animosity to grow, to the point where they had to burn down his houses and books? I asked you this same question previously, and you are yet to provide an answer.

Renegade soldiers have been known to carry out acts of intimidation and violence while in uniform. Those who were tagged 'saboteurs' in those days were not attacked by the indigenous community, their punishment was often meted out by the soldiers after the civilians had pointed out, who they felt was a 'saboteur.' So the fact that Graham-Douglas was placed under protective custody by the brother-in-law of Nwanodi, does not mean that some disgruntled elements among the Biafran rank and file, who were unable to openly show their hostility against Graham-Douglas due to the fear of their superiors, could not have done some damage to his properties, using other means. However, I will not pass this off as the gospel truth like you have been doing with your own subjective thoughts, because the jury is still out on those who destroyed Graham-Douglas' library.

How come none of the eastern indigenous people that you want us to believe launched the attacks against Graham-Douglas' property, were ever arrested and brought to justice in Biafra?? If you know of any, please state them here. Don't get worked up or launch ad hominem attacks - just state the facts.

As for the your query on why the government has been unable to provide verifiable proof of atrocities committed by the Biafran soldiers, don't forget that Gowon's policy of 'No victor, No vanquished' was instituted to do two things: (a) bring the Biafrans back into the Nigerian society without reprisals, (b) prevent any further discussions or reports about the war on the Nigerian side, in order not to let the wounds of the civil war fester, so that people can heal quickly. Even Ogbemudia did the same thing, when he refused to publish the report of the Justice Omo-Eboh Tribunal of Inquiry into Rebel Activities, in the old Mid-West region.

But now, a lot of water has passed under the bridge and people are beginning to talk about what transpired during the war. Afterall, it took Alabi-Isama almost 40 years to publish his own account of the war titled 'The Tragedy of Victory."

Others can still publish their own war experiences tomorrow once they have the chance. Didn't Achebe write "There was a country" which contained his memoirs about the war, over 40 years after the civil war ended?

What I have noticed is that each time the minorities from the East, or non-Igbo from the old Mid-West, attempt to talk about their own war experiences, it gets dismissed out of hand by the pro-Biafra group, or they are derided as being 'unsubstantiated.' It is similar to what you have been doing on this thread.

Now if you can read all what has been stated here with an open mind, then it would help to cure the myopia that has blinded you. I am not a fan of long epistles. So, if you must reply kindly keep it short. And oh yes... kindly lose the anger and get rid of the aggression. Next time you are tempted to lash out in a wave of fury, please remember the words of Abraham J. Heschel: "In a controversy, the instant we feel anger, we have already ceased striving for truth, and have begun striving for ourselves." Your post is a perfect example in this regard.

IGBOPRINCE:
laudate my man, I ve been searching for you..

How re you bro.

Na wetin?? Kèdụ ife ị nà-aghò ̣ebe afù? Am suspicious of the way you are calling my name, o! I owe you?

Anyway sha, how body?

meziedc:
The zoo called "nigeria" must fall so detaining our able leader Nnamdi Kanu is not going to help matters. The zoo government should also know that in a billion years to come the black race will never come across an idol like him. Long live BIAFRA [color=#006600][/color]

Thanks for showing us how shallow your brain is. So you are now God who can foretell eternity, by claiming that: "that in a billion years to come the black race will never come across an idol like him." Abeg, swerve!

Truckpusher:
Thank you, they seem to have forgotten that we were all created equal and your population doesn't give you a right to lord over another man with his distinct identity while dictating how he chooses to address himself.

The attacks on my humble self shows the people who this people really are despite my enormous respect for their identity, their way of life, yearnings and an undying support for their cause because I strongly feel that there is a conspiracy to keep this great people permanently down in the oppressive Nigerian state.

They can abuse me and curse me all they want but I will speak my mind anywhere ,anytime and anyhow I feel like and whenever I feel like , God has given every man an identity and no one should let it go even for the sake of friends - I would rather lose friends than lose that which defines me in my rightful place.

God bless you for speaking your mind, jare! God created freedom of thought and freedom of choice.

If God wanted all of us to think alike, He would have created clones. As long as your opinion is not hate-filled or negatively impacting anyone, or destructive to anyone's well-being, please feel free to offer it.

ikechu1278:
Dude you don't know NOBODY. This is a FACT and I can bet my entire life saving on that, hell I'll even bet my grandmother life on that. You're just some deluded dude online who whenever called out, immediately have either family members from areas or know the relatives of the someone being talked out. It doesn't take a genius to figure you out because you are so desperate to save face, you use the same lies all the damn time. Switch it up, maybe then when you actually conduct a lie, people would believe you. Yes I so believe you know the douglas family. Infact nwoke, you know barack obama's family too. You even knew Jesus. Nonsense!!
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Hahaha! You are too pathetic for words. I do not have the permission of the family to mention their individual names here, so I will not intrude on their privacy by doing so. Are you jealous that you do NOT know them??

You are the one trying to save face by being aggressive, and spewing out 4-letter words and insults in every other line. The Graham-Douglas' family are human beings. They do not live on the moon, or in outer space. They have family, friends and acquaintances, so it is not impossible that someone would know them. Not everyone is as clannish as you. I know people from different parts of this country and I also have family from different ethnic groups. If you bet your life's savings, you would lose! Quit being daft. Go and hug a transformer, if it does not please you!

ikechu1278:
There is no such thing as a house library in Nigeria..FACT!! A small quantity of book is not considered a library. Did they burn his book? I'll agree with the little you provided. Did they burn a library? The answer is a HELL NO.

Continue swearing. In your small myopic mind, you fail to realise that people can have offices in their homes or entire rooms where they stack books, journals and documents, which invariably becomes a library. You are still looking for a separate edifice like the type that exists in a university, despite the fact that a clear definition of what constitutes a library has been given to you. The Mirriam-Webster Dictionary defined it as 'a collection of books, or a room in which books are kept.' So the dictionary is wrong, abi? You still cannot accept the truth. What a pity. Home libraries exists in Nigeria, and have been in existence for ages among the intelligentsia. Go to a lot of universities. You will find many professors who live on campus, have a room that has been turned into a library in their homes. Oh, I forgot that you grew up in a village where such things were unknown.

If it was an Igbo man whose books were burnt, you would have readily accepted this fact without question. How pathetic.

ikechu1278:
I can see you have a reading comprehension problem. Even when broken down in the same quote you quoted, you still ask the question with answers already written up there.
Obviously I need to simplify things before you get it.
1.) Biafran soldiers were protecting Douglas, the other guy and others
2.) Aguma made sure to he protected almost all the river state leaders who were against biafra and deliberately instructed they be looked after by people he commanded aka biafran soldiers
3.) He had them detained in custody in the jail cells ojukwu and all biafran leaders had access to
4.) Therefore using the common sense, the God almighty gave you...who the f2k you think in Eastern Nigerian that the soldiers where protecting the leaders from? It's either A.) The Biafran soldiers or B.) The Eastern indigenous. Common sense tells going by who was doing the protecting and where they were held at that the answer is B. Judging from Douglas book, he mentioned that both the igbos and minorities were inching for revenge and stemming with anger, once again...that points the anwer to B.
Common sense exist nigg@, use it more often.

You were called out on your lies, and in trying to justify that lie you are digging yourself deeper into a pit.

Your last post emphatically stated that the expatriate lady whose comments I quoted, noted that Graham-Douglas' house and books were burnt by 'eastern indigenous'. A fact that was NOT recorded in her interview, since there was no mention of the perpetrators. When it was brought to your attention, you did a U-turn claiming that since the Biafran soldiers were guarding Graham-Douglas and her husband on the orders of Aguma, the culprits were the 'eastern indigenous.' You were even the one who brought Aguma into the conversation in your last post, and ended up focusing on what he did. So why are you now claiming that you did not focus on Aguma? Receive sense, I beg.

The fact that Biafran soldiers were protecting Graham-Douglas, Nwanodi and others does not automatically mean it was the eastern indigenous people who burnt their houses, simply because it was not stated in that interview! Your conjecture is appalling! Ok, if you still insist they were the ones, then why would they burn up their houses, when they were under protective custody? They were under the protection of the state.

And like I asked you before, were the poor minorities, common man and masses in Biafra who did not agree with Biafra ideology, given such protection during the civil war? Am still waiting for an answer.

ikechu1278:
You are so pathetic is sickening. In Asaba massacre, I cannot name all soliders in Asaba at that time but the names that instructed the killings, the names that did most killings are well known, well spoken off and well documented. The same factor can be found in WW1, WWII. Many River state indigienous wrote a book on Biafra war, yet ironically nobody spoke of a Col ojeh of degema. And yet you're arguing this? Are you brain dead or something or are you that desperate. I mentioned the NL member from Degema speaking on this because since the author claims Col Ojeh was a degema descendant, very likely, he'll be known by his own people and yet a member from his tribe even mentioned he's never heard the name before. I ask again, are you brain dead or something? WTF you think you're arguing/defending

If it was an igbo community, I would have asked the same question. Degema itself is not an Igbo town therefore the col ojeh is not an Igbo but that does not mean I'll sit here and allow a distorted lies being pushed as fact. If an igbo man comes out right now and call out a name noone has heard of and claimed he participated in Biafra, I'll ask the exact same question I am asking now. Swerve left if you ain't got nothing better to say.

Again I repeat, you are so deluded, it is pathetic! Nobody mentioned that Degema was an Igbo town. Not Alabo Abiye, not me. The point being made by Alabo, was that the Col. Ojeh was acting as a Biafran soldier, not as an Igbo soldier. He could have been so intoxicated by power or indoctrinated by the prevailing ideology of the day, that he saw any dissent from any quarters (even if it came from his own tribe), as something to be ruthlessly dealt with.

All the Rivers people that wrote on the war, were they up to 20 people? Did they all come from the same communities?? Was the war fought by the same set of individuals in each territory or sector? Was it the same battalion or platoon that went into each different community in the present Rivers State? So why would a Col. Ojeh feature in all the books by those Rivers people?

As for reaching out to an NL member to verify if a Col. Ojeh existed, I laughed when I read that one. How old is this NL member, that you are reaching out to? Does he know every single person in Degema? Even on my street, I don't know everyone, so how can one NL member know everyone that comes from his ethnic group, and be sufficiently bold enough to vouch for the identity of this Col. Ojeh?

As for the Asaba massacre, it was a project by some folks from that area who went into the past to record eye-witness accounts from survivors, and also went into the archives to unearth the documents, that brought all those atrocities to light.

If the non-Igbo minorities decide to organise themselves, document eye-witness accounts from survivors, and conduct the same kind of research on what transpired during the war in their communities, just as the Asaba project did, the findings would shock a lot of people.

You are so determined not to see the truth, even if it came and hit you right in the face. Oya, continue belly aching. When you are done, take a dive into the nearest river, if my response does not please you.

ikechu1278:
Dude you are the WORST liar known to men. Is there anybody you don't know or have family members to? Anytime you are called out on a statement you can't back up with fact you automatically either know the person or somehow have a relative from the said area. quiet laughable. Even the lady you directed me to made no mention of douglas library being burned rather she stated few of his books and his houses burnt, by the eastern indigienous, not even biafran soldiers. It was a Biafran political leader, ironically from river state, who locked him and Douglas in jail for their own protection against the indigenous, not the soldiers. Did you even read what that lady said in her interview before directing me to it?
Infact the lady interview once more proved the OP article as false because it once again pointed out a detailed statement the author highlighted and tried to pass off as an accurate fact. which is ojukwu exiled douglas to abeonema and had plans to assassinate him. Ironically, the lady you directed to me mentioned that both her husband, Douglas and other were detained and jailed by Chief Emmanuel Aguma for their own protection. She equally mentioned Aguma who was very active in Biafra government instructing Biafran soldiers to watch over the men he had detained and mind you he detained them flat out in middle of Biafra, Owerri precisely. Therefore I ask, if the Biafran soldiers and Ojukwu had plans to execute Douglas, why would they be the ones protecting him along with others? Does that in any way, shape or form make sense to anybody with half a brain. Obviously he was being protected from the indigenous who disapproved of his support to Nigeria. The lady in question assisted in disproving the author yet again so thank you for that..explains the reason why Douglas never mentioned Ojukwu's plan to assassinate him that the author claimed he knew about.. Let's count it..this is the second state regarding Douglas by the OP that's been proven as false. Thank you for the article..saving it!!


WTF are you talking about?


And did I deny he said such? Also that option absolutely nothing to do with the content of discussion. The content was did Douglas know about the succession and did he write about it? Yes he did. Well since he did, how come the OP claimed he did not?


Thanks for the interview. Just incase you don't know there is a difference between a HOUSE and a LIBRARY.


Oh so now you saying you know more than Douglas...the man that lived in Eastern Nigeria at the time and was active during that time. Okay, since you know more than him..bring your proof. I'm waiting.


Dude stop trying to be half smart. The author of the article claimed this Col Ojeh committed numerous atrocity in River state, going by every war history worldwide known to men, individuals that did such atrocity are well known, well discussed and well written about. The indigenous whom they targeted will speak up on that. Ironically, in case of this Col Ojeh of Degema, other than the author nobody else seems to have spoken of him. Interesting!!! Even you can't be that slow

Eziokwu!! Gịnī ḳwọ bùḍù ̣ǹke à? Guy, you must be truly the most DECEITFUL person known to mankind, o! Why are you spewing insults simply because you cannot accept the truth??! Yes, I know a few members of the Graham-Douglas family. Why does that offend you?? Is it a crime to know them?? Are they not human beings?? I did not know the man himself but I know his daughter and grand-daughter, as well as a cousin of theirs'. Tell me, how many people have I said that I know, and why does that fact send you into a rage?? Is it my fault that I am not as clannish as you, that has lived in a village in a remote area your entire life? Everyone's reality is different.

In your last post before this one, you claimed Graham-Douglas's library was never burnt because he did not make reference to it in his book. I cited an interview with Judy Nwanodi the expatriate wife of an Easterner who was resident in Port-Harcourt during the civil war, and witnessed the fact that Graham-Douglas' house and books were burnt. She never even quantified the number of books! So where did you see the word 'few'? I fit borrow you my contact lens, o! What is a library? The Mirriam-Webster Dictionary defines it as;

library
noun li·brary \ˈlī-ˌbrer-ē, -ˌbre-rē; British usually & US sometimes -brər-ē;
a place where books, magazines, and other materials (such as videos and musical recordings) are available for people to use or borrow

: a room in a person's house where books are kept

: a collection of similar things (such as books or recordings) a collection of books. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/library

So in your view, a house cannot contain a library? Going by this definition, you are dead wrong!

And Judy Nwanodi never made reference to who burnt Graham-Douglas' books - whether they were the eastern indigenous people or soldiers!! So why are telling lies, here? Where exactly did she mention 'eastern indigenous' to use your own words?? Ok, if you insist it was the eastern indigenous people who burnt Graham-Douglas's property, on whose orders did they do it? You cannot even fully exempt the soldiers from this scenario, as it has not been proven that it was done by the indigenous people. And you are here launching an attack online, using falsehood??! Chai!

Yes, she mentioned the fact that her husband and Graham-Douglas were detained by Aguma who was her late husband's brother-in-law, for their protection, and so what?? Was this thread about Aguma, or what he did and did not do?? Was my post about Aguma or Graham-Douglas, so what is my business with Aguma and why are you making him the focus of your response in this post, when the issue is about Graham Douglas?? Are you for real?? In what way did Judy Nwanodi's interview disprove the article written by Alabo Abiye? Was it because Aguma offered protection to Graham-Douglas, that you felt it exonerates Ojukwu from the rumour making the rounds that Graham-Douglas was slated for assassination? Can you say for a fact that the detention was not part of Ojukwu's plan to deal with him at a later date? Was the same protection offered to the poor masses, common man, and displaced minorities who did not agree with Biafran ideology? Kindly let us know.

As for Col. Ojeh, you are the one trying to play smart, thinking everyone is as dumb as you are. Is it every single soldier that committed atrocities in the war, that is known to all and sundry?? Many of the minorities who suffered during the war, are yet to tell their stories either because of the trauma or deep-seated pain they went through. People process grief in different ways. Your fellow NL member who disclaimed Col. Ojeh was your first sole authority on the Degema soldier. Now, you have turned round to claim, "going by every war history worldwide known to men, individuals that did such atrocity are well known, well discussed and well written about. " What a strange sense of reasoning.

Like I said earlier, majority of minorities have not written about their suffering during the war. When they eventually do so, the revelations would be shocking. If you had produced the entire list of officers who served in the Biafran army and his name was not included, then you would have had a valid point!

If it was an Igbo community that said a federal soldier committed atrocities against their community, you would never have said such a soldier did not exist because third parties did not mention his name in their books or articles. Please get real and stop playing to the gallery.

MrPresident1:
I take my bearing from the Bible, and I have some very[i] very[/i] peculiar beliefs, I know what i say when I affirm that the Igbos and the Yorubas are the same people. Fulani have forever sought to subvert and subjugate the Yoruba people, an Alaafin of Oyo was turbanned in Ilorin (I forget the name now), and if not for the rally by the warriors of Ibadan who defeated the Fulani at Osogbo in the mid 1800s, these people would have completely defeated and subjugated the Yoruba people. We would no longer have Alaafin of Oyo, but Emir of Oyo, no Obas, only emirs, district heads and sarkis; all Fulanis. These are historically verifiable facts.

Ilorin is there today as a symbol of treachery within the Yoruba people, an eternal sign of what treachery can do to a people.

Guy, if you say the Igbo and Yoruba are the same spiritually because of their Christian beliefs, then it means the Yoruba are also spiritually the same with any Sayyawa, Kanuri, Bachama or Fulani who believes in our Lord Jesus, accepts His redemptive work and obeys His commandments, by living his life according to Christian tenets! There are Fulani Christians o, but very few.

Do you have any idea what Northern Christians in the far north go through, in order to practise their faith?? Are you aware that the pentecostal churches in Sokoto are located outside the town?? Am going to stop here as I do not want to turn this into a religious thread. So, please do not generalise about the Yoruba and igbo being the same spiritually, if you cannot extend your definition to cover other ethnic groups, using your biblical criteria!

MrPresident1:
I am no tribalist, I just lay bare the facts. You keep deceiving yourself that some people are holding you back from leaving, rally the state houses of assembly in your states to raise a motion that they all want to secede, let your elected representatives table the matter at senate and the house of Reps, let your governors raise the matter at the National council of state, you will be allowed to secede. Stop deceiving and consoling yourself, nobody is holding Biafra from going out of Nigeria.

However, in as much as I have said this, I know fully that the Yorubas and the Igbos are essentially the same people spiritually, both are however presently dislocated from spiritual heritage, we both came from the same source.

Yoruba are not in any alliance with Fulani, forget the play that is being staged by the people who think they have brought the Yoruba people to the centre, there is no concord between Fulani and Yoruba because they are not the same people, they are spiritually a different and disparate people, Islam is the only region of contiguity between both tribes and this is the reason majority of the Yoruba supporters of this present arrangement are Muslims. The Yoruba intelligentsia has nothing to do with Buhari, time will prove me right.

Guy, I was enjoying your post until I got to this part where you said: "the Yorubas and the Igbos are essentially the same people spiritually, both are however presently dislocated from spiritual heritage, we both came from the same source." Haba! In what way? Maka gini? Why you come fall my hand now?? Is there something that you Igbo and Yoruba people know that I do not know??

How can Yoruba and Igbo be the same spiritually?? No talk am again, o! I have plenty of Yoruba and Igbo friends that will vex if they read this one.

And if you say the Yoruba have no concord with the Fulani, then it means you have not been to Ilorin or the Middle belt where some minority Yorubas reside. Many of them have intermarried with the Fulani, that they now have a clearly defined culture of their own that is a mixture of both tribes. It is not unusual to find some Ilorin indigenes that speak both Yoruba and Fulfulde.

Guy, take am easy o.... this your analysis no just jell at all.

@ Ayobabas, Abikubu, Wale6run, PenSniper, you guys should realise that the person you are exchanging words with, has a mental problem that defies any solution. Please ignore him. His modus operandi to insult, vilify and pour vitriol on anyone who does not share his view, as if God did not give all men freedom of choice.

He always derails any thread he gets into, with his insults and cut & paste propaganda.

This thread was getting really interesting with people either confirming or debunking the myths that have been held concerning non-Igbo minorities in the east, during the civil war. Now what has happened? It has been derailed and the search to unearth the truth has been compromised. Just pray for him because he needs spiritual deliverance from the psychosis that has taken hold of his mind.

Ojukwu got all his properties and his father's properties back, all over the country when he was pardoned and brought back to Nigeria in 1982. It was Shehu Shagari's government that pardoned him and gave him his properties back, and that was why he joined the National Party of Nigeria (NPN) in the eighties.

ikechu1278:
Douglas book was discussing of what transcribed and lead to the biafran succession. How both Igbo's and minorities group were feeling prior to the sucession , likewise the high tension found in the eastern region towards the Nigerian government and the northern/western indigienous residing in eastern Nigeria at that time. Likewise, he mentioned if not for ojujwu and other leaders of east intervening and keeping peace, there would have been a recriprocal killing of North/Yoruba people in East due to the high tension towards the two groups and the east indigienous thirst for revenge against the progrom. In addition, he spoke well of Ojukwu reasons to sucession but disapproved of ojukwu decision to succession due to his believe that ojukwu was not well prepared to leave at the time he declared biafra. Likewise, he disapproved of ojukwu's decision due to his own belief that ojukwu was not listening to him and others elder statemen of the east and was more forward to doing what he believed was right rather than listening to their advice to give Gowon few more chances to prove his worth. That's where his conflict towards ojukwu stem from. He believed ojukwu was too hard headed and acted like a typical man who was too pissed off to think logically and paid no attention to his elders hence biafra failed.


As for the bold. You know this how? Dude come off..the only person that ever spoke of douglas library being burnt was not Douglas himself but the author of the African leaders book. Come off it. NEXT!!!

Look up..even on this thread, an NL member from Degema mentioned there is no such person by that name. If the guy existed others would have equally written about him especially if he committed the amount of atrocity the author of this story telling claimed he did. This is a FACT. Such person would have been popular. Fact!!

I know about the burning of Chief Nabo Bekinbo Graham-Douglas' library, because I know members of his family. And till today, his descendants still make reference to it. Chief Nabo Graham-Douglas, was a Kalabari man, who declined the offer to be the Attorney General of Biafra, shortly after he had been serving as the Attorney General of the defunct Eastern Region. Graham-Douglas was later appointed the Attorney General of Nigeria, at the start of the civil war!

This made the Biafrans label him as a saboteur, because they felt upset that he declined to serve in Ojukwu's Biafran government, but later went on to accept a position in Gowon's cabinet. As a result, his properties in the East were targeted.

I have not read Chief Nabo Bekinbo Graham-Douglas's book in full, but I have come across a few people who actually summarised excerpts from his book.

Two scholars Kingdom E. Orji PhD & N-Ue, Uebari Samuel of the University of Port-Harcourt, made reference to his book in their paper titled Nigerian Civil War and Refugee Crisis: The Fate of the Minorities in the Former Eastern Region which was published in the IOSR Journal Of Humanities And Social Science (IOSR-JHSS) Volume 16, Issue 2, PP 45-57, e-ISSN: 2279-0837, p-ISSN: 2279-0845:

.....Nabo B. Graham-Douglas in his work: Ojukwu‟s Rebellion and World Opinion captures this prism when he undermined the case of united Biafra and asserted the autonomy and desire of the ethnic minorities in Eastern Nigeria to remain within United Nigeria, where they felt they would be able to realize their legitimate aspirations rather than stay in Biafra, where their land would be regarded as a natural lebensraum by the much more numerous Igbo whose treatment of the minorities in the past and even during the war, had left much to be desired (Cited in Osuntoku, 1989:88-89) http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jhss/papers/Vol16-issue2/F01624557.pdf?id=7785

In an interview granted to The Nation newspapers, dated October 12th 2011, Judy Nwanodi, the 76 year old expatriate wife of the late Chief Nwobike Nwanodi, recalls that the houses of the late Chief Nabo Graham-Douglas was ransacked and burnt in Port-harcourt during the war. She also states that their legal books were taken out and burnt and Graham-Douglas refused to rebuild the house after the war. The house is said to still be located on I.B Johnson Street in Port-harcourt. It is on page 30 of the publication. If you have access to ISSUU, then you can read the rest of the interview here:http://issuu.com/thenation/docs/0ctober_12__2011/30

Also after the pogrom in the North against the Easterners in the sixties, there were reprisal attacks against Northerners living in Igbo land, which were carried out by the Easterners themselves.

With regards to Col. Ojeh, so you believe the NL member who mentioned that Col. Ojeh does not exist in Degema is the sole authority on the civil war for you?? How funny! You need to consult widely. This is a country of over 150 million people, and the people of Degema and Abonemma exceed 2 million.

Like I asked you before, "do you know the names of every single officer that enlisted in the Biafran army, or served with them from 1967 - 1970?? Why are you then doubting if the man existed?? "

ikechu1278:
Nigga I've read his book when I was in high school. It was one of the books in our school library. How the f2k you think I knew the name of the person first of all, his opinion about Biafra, likewise how I knew he never mentioned none of what the author of contorted. Therefore, if Douglas never spoke of it then how come the author knew of it all. Is the author his son? Or was the author his conjoined twin thus saw everything?
And spare us the B.S lies that maybe Douglas didn't want to relive the situation hence he didn't speak. Douglas wrote a book specifically on his own account of Biafra therefore he would included that as well..this a fact.
The reason I didn't directly quote douglas is because his book is not previewed online. You have to buy it and read it hence I provided the name.
The reason I posted the short mention of Douglas book from other authors is because the author of this post stated douglas was not aware of the succession attempt and the only time he heard about biafra was when the Europeans came to invite him yet the quoted words of douglas showed giving detailed summary statement in regards to what was transpiring prior to the succession. The tension going on during the succession and equally the first time he heard the term Biafra. That small quoted post from douglas disqualified everything the OP stated as false

Maybe the author should explain to us how he knew all the stuff about Douglas that the man in question neither spoke of. Next!!!

Secondly there was no one by the name of Col Ojeh. If he was present, other authors that wrote about biafra would have mentioned that name one time or the other. How come the author is the only one who seem to know this degema biafra solider by the name of col ojeh? Once again, that disapprove the author and pushes the story as conjocted trash. Next!!

If you read the book, then paraphrase it here or provide a short summary. I don't see why you need to insert four letter words into your speech.

As for Graham-Douglas's library being burnt, it was a well known fact by his friends and clients. Who knows why he didn't write about it? I merely suggested it was a painful experience for him, but to you it is B.S. Okay o, Mr. B.S, since you know him better than others, tell us why he didn't mention the destruction of his library in his book despite the fact, that it happened!

As for your comments about Col. Ojeh, do you know the names of every single officer that enlisted in the Biafran army, or served with them from 1967 - 1970?? Why are you then doubting if the man existed??

lygn19:
lol... guy I cant understand what u are saying o.
it sounds like anambra. but I don't get it.

If you ask nicely, then I will translate. And yes, this is Onitsha / Asaba dialect.

adeitoro:
Leekwanu ifeanyi
I wu noo asu awuru.
Kowa ihe m dere if you actually know what I wrote.
Google translate won't save your sorry ass this time.

Who is Ifeanyi? What are you calling him to come and see? Your spelling of words in Igbo is atrocious, so you had better go and learn how to write properly, before asking people to tell you the meaning of what you have written. Kà ọ dịzịa nọòf̣ụ.

Oya, mèe yā ǹnwọò run back to Google translate with your sorry ass in order to decode what I have just put down here.

lygn19:
eberibe wu oria .

Onye àbànì ḍì ẹgwù! Onye nzuzu! Jèe zùlụ ikē! The disease worrying you is a spiritual one. Go for deliverance.

lygn19:
d curse has started manifesting.

Hmmn, the curse has started manifesting on you!! Eziokwu!

theDEVILisHERE:
Nigeria is already at war
You can never have peace in a slave camp

What ever the govt does will not count
Rather
It only brings the restoration of Biafra closer

May that war you mentioned locate you first, and your people. And since you mentioned the word 'slave camp', I guess you are currently residing in one, and what does that make you? A slave.

theDEVILisHERE:
No one in africa gave those invaders permission to come
They were not invited
The came in by force to enslave african peopple based on the command of evil leaders who sent them
Like I said
Nnamdi kanu and ipob can use any passport they like as long as it helps them accomplish their mission

And may those passports continue to get them in trouble, as long as they keep disturbing the peace of Nigeria.

lygn19:
lol edo man... here is my reply for u, if u are from edo or u are in anyway related to Edo d moment u read dz u, and ur generation shall be cursed.

Am NOT from Edo, but I have relatives married to Edo people. So all your own curses are upon your head and will never leave you! You are so cursed, that anything you lay hands on will turn into a problem for you.

And those curses will not only continue to land on your head ten million times over, but it will make its way down into your generation, descendants and lineage, from the minute you read this post! Anuofia.

May you never do well in this lifetime and the next. You will forever be miserable with the hate and lies you keep recycling here, if you do not provide proof to show Laudate is from Edo. You lousy ajō ̣mmadù .

thegov:
pls i need info on the cost of starting 2.5mt gas plant in lagos

1 what is average cost of space in petrol station

2 how long will take for the installation

3 the require strength of staff need for a plant in a petrol station

4 how can l sale sale to small retailers and what cost will l be buying the gas

Hmmn, answers to these questions depend on a lot of variables:

1 what is average cost of space in petrol station - It depends on that specific petrol station. You need to discuss with the owner.

2 how long will take for the installation - Ask Johnstin. I think he said 10 days?

3 the require strength of staff need for a plant in a petrol station - Just 2 people for a mini skid. As your operations go bigger, employ more staff.

4 how can l sale sale to small retailers and what cost will l be buying the gas - To sell to small retailers, you need to approach them directly and market your services to them. The cost of the gas varies from one depot to the other. In Lagos, you need to contact NAVGAS, NIPCO or PPMC depot, to find out their prices. Sometimes, only one of the depots have gas. At other times, all 3 depots have gas. TOTAL depot and OANDO depot in Apapa also stock gas, but their prices are usually slightly higher than others.

johnstin:
We can help you procure it and any other LPG fitting and component.

laudate:
Ok, but what about LPG pumps? Would you advise Blackmeer or Corken? Some folks say Corken is more reliable...but the price is high.

Hi, still waiting for an answer. Would appreciate your prompt response on this issue.

Swissheart:
...lol....I asked because we haven't had light in Epe since abt 4weeks now

Even many Lekki communities no get light! Festac too, na di same thing - epileptic.

adeitoro:
Stop using google translator, it turns you to a clown.

Efulefu, when and where did I use Google translator?? If you speak Igbo properly, you would understand exactly what I wrote here. For you to have mentioned Google translator, it shows you are grossly deficient in the language and you need the application to decode what has been written here.

You are a typical ekwensu. Oya, go back to google translator to check the meaning of that word!

Kulas:
Anuofia "Josef Igboju"

What did he steal from you??

Delafruita:
I guess comprehension of basic English is a problem for certain people.if not,I wonder how anyone in his right senses will call that letter of inquiry a petition.the MP is duty-bound to make such inquiries when she is notified that a British citizen resident in her borough has been imprisoned outside Britain.she clearly stated in her letter that she will like to know why he was imprisoned and the details of the process.how does that become a petition?she didn't even ask for his release neither did she make any request of intervention from Hammond's office.she simply asked for information on the details and some ignorant people think that's proof that their director is connected internationally?this borders on poverty of the mind

Who called the letter a petition??

lygn19:
lol... Edo or not u and ur kinsmen I ve watched u people make noise all over Nairaland even atbu1983 kept posting anti igbo stuffs on almost all threads on Nairaland I kept quiet because it didnt concern me because I didnt want anything to do with Biafra but f00ls like u kept Dragging we well meaning igbos into it, let me teach u guys how to ferment trouble.

And I will repeat it again, may Chukwu Okike deal with you severely and make your life hell, if you continue to spew out such stupid lies about me! Idiiot! I make comments on issues that I have information about, either becuase I want to set the record straight or I just want to make my views known. Since when has that become a crime on NL??

If you do not want non-Igbos to pass comments about your affairs, then post your comments on a Biafra-related website.

If you have a problem with atbu1983, why not face him directly? Lousy, misguided fool like you! Your stupidity quotient continues to rise by the day! Who are my kinsmen?? If you do not provide proof here, may it never be well with you!

lygn19:
see dz mumu Edo thief that the only reason why they are agitating for Nigerias break up is because they want to steal Niger delta oil, u hate the inland igbos but mysteriously love the southsouth igbos and u want them to beleive that its because they migrated from Edo and nothing more, they migrated from Edo yet u people didn't find it hard to point them out to be killed by federal troops during the war.
Greedy people I pity the southsouth people falling for ur traps, an Edo man is like a green snake in a green grass, he would welcome u to an open field only to attack u when he can.

Last time, your brothers called me Yoruba, for disagreeing with them. In their stupidity, they failed to realise there are 150 other ethnic groups in Nigeria.

Today, you are calling me an edo thief. I mèlù ̣ya n’efù. Simply because I commented on a few threads pertaining to Edo people, and since then your shallow brain has jumped to the false conclusion that Laudate is Edo. May Chukwu Okike twist your mouth, and strike you with an incurable sickness, if you do not provide documentary verifiable evidence to show that Laudate is Edo. Anuofia! Onye efulefu like you!

And you went further to write an epistle about what Edo people were said to have done, or did not do, after jumping to a false stupid conclusion about where Laudate comes from. Where did I ever write about a break up or say it ..."is because they want to steal Niger delta oil??" to use your own misguided words? Must you tell such bare-faced lies?? O ̣bù ̣ala? In the past I would even have tried to be rational by offering an explanation. But today, I cannot be bothered.

May God punish you without ceasing, you idiiot!

ekenedegreat:
Thank you bro for telling that deranged yourobber pig the bitter truth. I keep telling them that, ranting on NL can never stop what is to come.

Which bro, are you talking about?? This guy registered on the 22nd of October just to make this single post, and has not shown his cowardly deceitful face again, since then. And you are calling him bros, without checking if he is actually telling the truth, or if he is lying. Or are you part of his Umu nna?

ikechu1278:
What I find disgusting is when people distorting history thinking no one knows who they talking about.

Chief (Dr.) Nabo Graham-Douglas actually wrote a book in regards to Biafra war and about ojukwu titled Ojukwu Rebellion and the World view. And despite not agreeing with Ojukwu decision, no where in his entire book did he actually mention wtf this man just said especially the plans to execute him. In fact, according to the author, Douglas didn't know about the succession yet ironically, Douglas himself wrote detail account of what transpired at the time of the succession. Sadly, Douglas book is not given a preview on Google books so I couldn't directly quote him, I can only highlight from authors who quoted him. Attached below

Maybe the author of this article, chief whatever, can explain to us how he knew Douglas had no information in regards to succession but yet Douglas himself gave detailed account of wtf transpired at that time in his own book. In addition, how he knew the plans to execute douglas yet douglas himself wasn't aware of it hence doesn't mention it in his own book. Like the f2k?

Secondly who the heck is Col ojeh of Degema? First time I've heard the name and I've read many books about Biafra. I even googled the guy and I still couldn't find it. While I'm at it, I thought the author claims to be from River state so how come he is not aware that Degema itself is a River state territory and the tribe of Degema aren't Igbo but ijaw. How the heck is he not aware of this but he's from River state?

The part of the article that even showed me this is going to be contorted story without facts was the bold. After the bold, I automatically knew all the rest will be story abdvthe author did not fail my assumptions at all.

Have you read Chief Nabo Graham-Douglas's book from cover to cover? Or have you seen any extensive review of the book online? Kindly post the URL here. It is possible that Graham-Douglas did not want to talk about the burning of his office and law library, because the memories were too painful for him to recite, or to dwell upon. This does not negate the fact that it happened!

If someone quoted just an excerpt from a page in that book, does it mean that the rest of the pages in that book do not contain anything pertaining to what Alabo Abiye wrote about??

Alabo Abiye did not claim that Col Ojeh of Degema was Igbo. There is nowhere in his write up where he classifies the man as an indigene of that tribe. Rather he notes that the man hailed from Degema, and he was a Biafran soldier! He was reported to have committed those atrocities as a Biafran soldier, not that he was an Igbo.

Why do folks like you keep trivialising the pain of non-Igbo minorities?? Atrocities were committed by soldiers on both sides (i.e. both the federal soldiers and the Biafran soldiers). War is evil and it breeds casualties. Deal with it!

simplycarro:
You should thank your chi that Nigeria was governed during the war by Gowon, a Christian who had an Igbo girfriend that he eventually married, otherwise you will not have been born.

His Igbo girlfriend was Edith Ike-Okongwu, later known as Edith Ike-Mark Odu. She came from Ndikelionwu in Anambra State. May her soul rest in peace. And no, he did NOT marry her. She however had a son for him