₦airaland Forum

davidif:
What in goodness name is Intels? I do not know what that is.

Also, to answer your question, maybe the ports are too shallow to allow bigger ships to dock, after all who wants to crash their ship into a shallow water port? Besides, what if those ports don't have adequate equipment for massive unloading operations. Unloading a ship could be a very massive undertaking if you don't know. Then after the unloading, you need the to be able to transport those goods to their final destination either via rail network or massive trailers which those other ports don't have.

INTELS Nigeria Limited has acquired one of the largest port handling cranes in the world – a 600 tonnes Liebherr crane worth USD6 million (N1.83 billion). The crane, which is sitting on 104 tyres, is capable of lifting cargoes as heavy as 208 tonnes with a 17-metre boom outreach. “The crane is characterized by rapid and efficient handling of loads up to 208 tonnes. With its extensive boom outreach, the LHM 600 is the ideal cargo handling solution for the type of very large and ultra large ships operating across the world today,” he said. He said the huge crane, fondly called ‘Big Mama’ at the port, was acquired in addition to several other existing cargo handling equipment at the Onne Federal Lighter Terminal and Federal Ocean Terminal. He said the crane is being operated fully by Nigerians who have been trained abroad on its handling and maintenance.
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/03/intels-acquires-n1-8bn-crane-largest-africa/

londoner:
I'm not saying they would not enjoy life but it will also have the unavoidable gra-gra of Lagos. That's my point. The traffic is only one aspect, it's just the fact that Lagos is just a stressful place and results in very stressed and cantankerous people.
The culture of the two places are just different.

Jephyard:
I have not been to Abuja before but I have been in Lagos in all my life. Simply put Lagos is in total disorder. As for those saying Lagos Island has more road network than the Lagos mainland must be high on weed. The Lagos mainland has good road network than the island. Lagos is simply dirty atmospherically if there is any word like that sha

MiddleDimension:
Economy doesn't reflect on the lives of Lagosians? Now you tell me how all the looted money In abuja reflects on the live of the largely primitive people?

Abuja is more decent and creative and still depends on oil money and lovey from other parts of the country to pay its own bills! Why don't you just tell me how much money spent in Abuja is actually made in that corrupt and disgrace of a city where majority of the houses in asokoro latana etc are built with stolen money and are also inhabited by the mistresses of the shameless old politicians.

Better know what you say in public before you disgrace yourself.

Lagos is not creative yet it is home to nollywood, Music Industry, fashion and tech startups why don't you just go and have a sit already!

Place enjoy pics of creativity

londoner:
It doesn't matter about the grand housing Lagos has, it's the way the city runs ( or is not run) which makes many people prefer Abuja. You can be rich and living in Lekki or Banana Island if you want, but you still know of the Lagos frustrations one way or the other.

You don't have to live in Asokoro or Maitama to feel the benefit of Abuja quality of life.
You can live well in Jabi or Wuse 2 or even Gwarimpa Estate or Lifecamp.

CSTR1003:
The incontrovertible fact is that Nigeria is going nowhere having Lagos as the only port state.

We will just be kidding ourselves if we believe that is sustainable.

When Nigeria and Nigerians are ready for development, the right thing will be done.

BiafraIShere:
Everything about the !diotic republic of Nigeria is just disgusting. This worthless country would rather allow it's home bound cargo to land at Cotonou than for it to land at the Eastern ports! A sensible and responsible government would have given the shipping companies incentives like reduced cost/tax for berthing in the Eastern ports in order to discourage them from going to Lagos yet the bastards won't do it, just because of primitive and tribal sentiment! The same problem is occurring in the airports, when Enugu was made an international airport, some suffersicated bastards from the waste claimed it will kill local airlines!! These same !diots launched scathing campaign against giving Enugu airport an international status, and today, after succeeding in getting themselves into the centre, they have stiffled the AIIA through scorched earth policies like not expanding the runways to allow for bigger aircrafts and equally refusing to install equipment that could enhance night landing. Now, international flights are known to arrive mostly at night and they all use big aircrafts!! Major airlines have continued to avoid using AIIA due to these deliberate bottlenecks and only Ethiopian airlines have continued to risk it against all odds. Nigeria is cursed and will remain a laughing stock while it's citizens will continue to kill each other because they subhumans who failed to evolve. Tufiakwa!!!!

londoner:
I really don't get why people say the above.

There are many types of jobs in Abuja not just politics. Do establishments not have employees? Do the embassies, hotels, restaurants, real estate/ construction company's not have employees and owners? What about the markets, the banks? What about catering? The only Lagos specific jobs are those that are in some head quarters because they are located there, the wharfs and businesses to do with the ports. All other businesses are in both Lagos and Abuja so have people both owning and employed there.

We all know ashawos exist in both Lagos and Abuja.

There are major negatives that impact the lives of Lagosians negatively that just don't exist in Abj like the daily 'agbero toll' heaped on the heads of the poor, the frustrating traffic that affects both rich and poor. The noise pollution and general bad air quality. Let alone the aggressive and oppressive nature of Lagos and many of its people.

The main complaint Lagosions have about Abj is so called boredom or calmness. Never the aspects above that I pointed out about Lagos.

malware:
She said her office is 13 minutes drive from home.... So how can she be in Gwagwalada?

obailala:
Anybody is allowed to use Onne, but I hear it cost more, so only oil companies seem to patronize it.

erico2k2:
Plz check this live link
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ports/803/Nigeria_port:ONNE

davidif:
Bros you just answered your question right there. Gbam!

erico2k2:
Nah not true, the vast majority of importers fro the south south and the south East use this port, but if you are not in the circle you wont know, they are very busy there.

post=67644563:
The irony is that while the Lagos ports are heavily congested with ships queuing to get port calls to berth, the eastern ports are lying fallow due to little or no patronage. Apart from the Port at Onne in RiversState, the other seaports located at Port Harcourt, Calabar, Warri and Koko are, mildly put, existing only in name. Another irony is that most importers who make use of the Lagos Ports have their businesses in the South South and South East geo-political zones.
under-utilization of the eastern ports on the corridors of the Federal Government and the foreign shipping lines. The government is said to have rolled out policies that have directly and indirectly stiffled the operations of eastern ports.
Prior to the concessioning of ports to private operators in 2006, the Federal Government gave up to 30 percent discount as incentives to shipping companies willing to use the eastern ports. Most of these shipping companies jumped at the bait and the result was a boom in the operations at the eastern ports. But this incentive was withdrawn after the concession. To make things worse, the freight charged for using the eastern ports was hiked.
Second point, channels in Port-Harcourt Port 1 are not big enough for containerized vessels to berth,the fact that the Federal Government is not doing anything to dredge the port to pave the way for containerized vessels to come to the oldest seaport in the eastern part of the country, if you have a bigger vessel that will bring much cargo, you will spread your cost and it becomes lower than when you take a smaller vessel that will bring small cargo, small tonnage your cost goes higher when you spread it on small tonnage cargo.
the challenges facing their operations, is federal government is churning out policies that were deliberately targeted at strangulating operations in the eastern ports and Federal Government is encouraging capital flight to Lagos, disparity in freight charges has greatly impaired the operations of ports in the eastern flank
Lagos. Let me give you a practical example. The question everybody is asking and which is begging for an answer is: “What is the rationale behind an importer who is based in Port Harcourt, Aba or Onitsha shipping his cargo to Lagos?

How come that same policy has not strangulated Onne port?

obataokenwa:
Limi Hospital dusts every hospital in Lagos. You guys have media and make a lot of noise on a singular achievement. Finally, Abuja should be the abroad of Lagosians simple. You want to have a taste of what abroad looks like? Visit Abuja

ademoladeji:
She's so fcukin outta point.

To begin with, compare the population of both cities, how congested they are...

Uber can never bill you 7k from Maryland to VI with same traffic condition as between Kubwa and Nyanya for 1600. Also, Lagos is built up while Abuja isn't in same level because you can't find any road in lagos with same superb engineering design as that of Abuja.

On the issue of no bribe by civil servants... She absolutely got it all wrong. Kindly ask her to visit FCDA, FERMA, FIRS, AGIS to mention only a few. These government's agencies only live on unlawful extortion. The Abuja Police are one of the worse though better than the ones in Lagos. The worst police team in Abuja are found at under Berger bridge.

On pollution, it is nominal... all cities have slums. Tell me what you at Galadimawa village, Karimo, Gwagwa, Aleeta, Tudun Wada,Etc...?

We choose where we want based on desires n opportunities.

I've live in both cities but in all fairness, Enugu remains my best choice while Akure takes the Silver medal and Jos the bronze winner.

meobizy:
Mscheew. Lazy youths drawing up differences out of boredom.
The truth is Abuja is the better option and hence the reason it was made FCT. Most Lagosians are ignorant: they are born in Lagos, raised in Lagos and will die in Lagos, so everything in their lives revolve around Lagos.

I've stayed in Lagos, PHC and Abuja and truly prefer PHC to LAG because the traffic can give someone heart attack. Just the thought of passing through Lagos during a journey gives me HBP.
Overall I prefer ABJ though -- very cool, calm and organized city.

CaptainFM1:
You made a very good and honest analysis of both cities. The lady seems to be comparing Maitama with Abule Egba! I bet she's yet to see the wonders coming up at Eko Atlantic city.

BafanaBafana:
I was rushing here to blast the lady but see as I match break after reading the post.

One thing I observed about most lagosians is that they are totally ignorant of other parts of the country.

theenchanter:
onne majorly deal with oil products......let the govt create enabling environment for eastern importers.

autojosh:
Nigeria and Benin Republic are competitors in the maritime business. The two West African countries are competing to be the Load Center, otherwise known as transshipment base, in West Africa.

Tragically, Contonou has remained the haven for Nigerian importers.

About 60% of all the imports to West Africa are destined to Nigeria. However, what gets to our seaports is just about 10%.

In other words, all the shipment coming to West Africa are billed for Nigeria, but at the end of the day what gets to Nigerian port directly is just about 10%.

The greater amount of cargoes are offloaded in neigbouring ports in Cotonou and other West African states and then they are transshipped to Nigeria. This is mostly because the seaports at Apapa and Tin Can are enormously overwhelmed......

Calabar Port Terminal

Meanwhile, Nigeria has 4 other sea ports that are underutilized or abandoned. The seaports are in Warri, Calabar, Koko and Port Harcourt.

Unarguably, Nigeria enjoys a large market advantage over Benin Republic because of her population, but sadly, it is Benin Republic that benefits from the large market of Nigeria.

Many countries of the world do not have such luxuries of having multiple seaports. Some are landlocked. Fortunately, Nigeria is blessed with many natural harbors and ports. Sadly, we are not taking advantage of this blessing.

Indeed, Nigeria needs deep seaports. However, if fully utilized, the abandoned and underutilized seaports in Nigeria have the capacity to significantly increase our national revenue and indeed our GDP.

So, why are the Port Harcourt, Calabar, Warri and Koko seaports underutilized?

Port Harcourt Port Terminal

Note, however, that the Intels’ Onne port in River state is Nigeria’s best run and perhaps the most active ports in the country. The Intels’ Onne seaport is a privately-run seaport within the same region as the abandoned ports.

According to the Nigeria Bureau of Statistics, in 2017, the cargo throughput on Nigeria seaport was highest at Onne Port.

In that year, the Onne Port had cargo throughput of 25,836,246 (while inward was 1,947,347, outward was 23,888,899).

This was followed by Apapa Port with 18,909,238 (inward was 17,523,313, while outward was 1,385,925)

Tin Can Island Port was third with 15,520,925 (inward was 14,623 and outward was 1,385,925).

Meanwhile, the other seaports – Port Harcourt, Warri, Calabar – struggled with very poor cargo throughput.

Please note that these almost comatose seaports are within the same axis as the high-performing Onne port.

So, what really is the excuse for the neglect of the seaports at Port Harcourt, Warri and Calabar?

https://autojosh.com/why-are-the-four-other-seaports-in-nigeria-abandoned/

Statistics shows that business activities at Calabar Port has been at its lowest ebb for over many years, due to the shallow draught of the channel that restrict access to smaller vessels and barges. This led the NPA to enter into joint venture agreements with the Calabar Channel Management Company Limited in 2014, to dredge the channel, which was originally 6 meters to 10 meters draught.

Beyond dredging, Calabar Port has a big problem, which has to do with the locating the port in a place that does not have the natural attributes of a seaport.

The port has 120 kilometres of high sea meandering channel that makes dredging difficult such that dredging this month with $100 million, in six months, NPA will need to dredge it again with same funds. This makes Calabar to lack economic viability that would encourage NPA to keep investing billions of naira generated from Ports in Lagos, to dredge the Calabar channel.

This means that it is not economically viable to get 10 metres draught in Calabar and maintain it consistently. Though, this was possible in the pre-concession era when NPA was the master stevedore in charge of cargo handling at ports, but today there are terminal operators. http://www.businessdayonline.com/transforming-calabar-port-viable-entity/

theenchanter:
It always beat my imagination how Nigeria end up inflicting hardship on itself just because of "marginalization". Take it or leave it, some parts of Nigeria is being marginalized, the nation can't move forward with this set-up.

Don't tell me states govt can build their seaports when their federal allocation can only pay salaries and minor road projects.

Don't tell me they can generate revenue on their own when there's not much economic presence in the regions.

Don't tell me their citizens can pay tax to generate revenue when their people are jobless, hungry and angry.

A sensible central govt will tryna ease Lagos seaport by allowing cargoes that are eastern bound use any of the remaining ports, afterall; not all consignment are for Lagos alone, what's d point in wasting about 30days to clear goods in Lagos when the remaining ports are useless?

Nigeria is fvcked up, big time!... even Benin republic is feeding on Nigeria's carcass.

goldcoinhub:
A certain Abuja based lady identified as Bibian Chinenye Pius-Urum has taken to to Facebook to give a narration on which city is better between the nation's capital Abuja and Lagos. According to her argument, Abuja should never be compared to Lagos as the standard of living is extremely higher in the capital city.

Read her post below:

https://lailasnews.com/lagos-can-never-be-compared-with-abuja-lady-blasts-lagosians/

megafaraday:
If u check where she lives now you will be surprised to know its gwagwalada or mararaba. All forming Abuja. Twee....*spits*

Abuja was designed to have a population of 1.6 million people, and expandable at its sides to 3.2 million people. This plan, however, did not anticipate an influx of people into the capital, as the population is currently around 6 million, according to the Minister of FCT, Muhammad Bello.

Abuja is regarded as the most planned city in Nigeria, but the authorities in FCT have cited unexpected influx of people, and the eventual overstretching of infrastructure, as the major reason for the increase in slums in the capital.

Slums everywhere in the capital city.

Checks by icirnigeria.org show that slums are fast taking up undeveloped plots of land in the capital city.

Apart from Central Business Area and Wuse, it was discovered that every other district in the capital city has sordid slums that present an ugly picture of Abuja, which was once thought to be the fastest growing capital city in Africa. https://www.icirnigeria.org/abuja-midst-slums-story-fast-decaying-city/

LastProphet:
My brother i dey oh, You know nairaland is now full of children and the topics keep getting more and more childish. I no get time for herdsmen wahala oh. The issue isnt PMB's making but his response is too dull as usual so the looters have taken advantage of that to ridicule him. If a better and younger candidate fit come up i go vote am otherwise na still PMB till 2023. at least we are sure he doesnt loot the treasury.
hope u are well?

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7lives:
@ Bolded is the reason the Chinese were COLONIZED by the Mongolians for a thousand years.
This period was the DARKEST in the history of the Chinese, they eventually learn to forgive one another in order to BUILD a common front against external aggression, this is the origin of the great wall of China.
Any group of people that CANNOT accommodate and respect the various views among themselves, can NEVER benefit from others because this group will never maintain a common front against others.

mapet:
Comprehension deficit. How does equate to project will complete in 3months.

And you conveniently ignored this

I cannot help you beyond this

wristbangle:
Bro, your wealth of knowledge will never fail you in life, please say amen. You have said it all.

aribisala0:
Uche again? Why not face your work?

dvkot:
Oga u are not being investigated for spending only if you are involved in a scam finish, u cannot be spraying money then FBI will see you and start asking you the kind of work you do, oga is not possible

wristbangle:
With the completion of these projects plus Eko Atlantic city, other states in Nigeria should forget about catching up with Lagos. The pace of development in the state is mind blowing.

Ogun state ought to be the sister of Lagos but the governor is only focusing in the state capital leaving the most important areas generating huge IGR in shambles.


Lalasticlala, your attention is needed.

theenchanter:
excluding ilubirin that doesn't have underground drainage system cos it'll directly discharge flood to d sea, every other projects here have underground drainage system.

kayfra:
The lagos "developers" are trying o.

Igbo amaka

ipodstinks:
Laudate is not igbo. He is a good guy