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well, its seems we have people who really wants to move things forward. well, seun could be exempted if he is not interested. what we need now is a venue, a general coordinator and a board on nairaland, facebook, etc to carry people along.

Well we should encourage those who wants to develop app for nl. However this could be organised with a body set up to monitor things

The analysis shows that more than 80 percent failed to have 5 credit including english and mathematics

usetime:
, to substantiate the university degree , a student has to travel abroad to get a foreign ,

whats special about foreign education? discrimination and personal ego is all that.

what have the government have to do that they have not done. despite all the money been spent every year by the govt in education

of what values will these professionals have in uplifting standard of education in Nigeria?

snthesis:
Dnt underestimate the power of MS excel- although matcad is now In vogue.

ms excel, matcad are both mathematical tools if when understood fully can be used to do a lot of proficiency work. i sometimes try to do complex mathematical designs in cad software such as autocad by defining complex mathematical functions within these soft wares then integrate the output into the cad software. for example, i may want to draw a complex surface defined by say 4x^5+6x^2+9. ordinarily, if i have to do this using programmable lang such as autolisps within auto cad, the lines of codes are complex and if you are not good in mathematics and programming, you will get garbage. but excel and mathcad can do these traumatically. so just customize the output of these into the input of the cad and you get the desired result easily.

education means different things to differnt people. to some it is to improve their ego. the money is already there. to some, it is a means to getting jobs and money. to people like me science is like a religion.

what of nigerians at home, how are they doing?

debosky:
You do have a point AJ - the truth is, without a sound understanding of energy and material balances, and more importantly, thermodynamics and fluid dynamics, you can't really use knowledge from process simulation and other such software.

As always, it is the detailed understanding of the fundamental principles that will enable you to utilise the software in a manner that will produce meaningful results.

However, what snthesis was implying (I think) is that in a market saturated with 'theorists' as it were - people who know the fundamentals but lack the ability to use the modern tools, having this additional feather in your cap will give you an incremental advantage when competing for jobs.

what of a situation whereby you write programs software yourself to solve most of your computations?

iphone and ipad can use autocad software

justwonder:
thanks woodrose for your kind advise,i have ccna and am still preparing for CCNP route exams.Reguirements which seems to come up oftens bothers on programming/database of which i have limited knowledge,so i find my learning curve has got to be much steeper.i do appreciate your input

@ustwonder
whats your email?

AjanleKoko:
I don't think this is a good idea. Just my opinion.
Why don't you find some vocation instead? The abroad route at your age might not really help you. You can even go the IT route, thought a lot of people think it's overflogged, I think there's still a dearth of qualified IT professionals in Nigeria.

There are lots of IT and telecoms trainings around, and it doesn't matter if you studied arts in your first degree or are not good in mathematics. Anybody can go that route. Don't go abroad on any suicide mission to waste your time and money. It won't even help you when you come back home. Better look for something to do here.

sure, there are some certification in IT world that we have very few Nigerians that are certified and the demands are high. what about cissco, the final stage, how many nigerians have it? so do your research well.

that's why student of nowadays cannot write up to 450 words in their waec and neco essay writing. ask my bros who are specialist in writing love letter. fulscap sheets they sell well well in those days

AjanleKoko:
As far as I'm concerned, Computer Science is a Mathematics specialization.
Thought the job market in Nigeria rates CS over mathematics as a discipline on its own, the reverse is the case in the developed world. There, mathematics graduates have diverse opportunities in various sectors: statistics, business, economics, and finance, engineering, etc, as well as computer science itself.
Wherever you are, so long as you want to work strictly in the IT industry, no need to study mathematics, just go for CS.

who won follow you hear that one for here?

AjanleKoko:
^^

, The MBAs and Mscs available in the prestigious schools abroad, commanding huge amounts of money, are not really required for the Nigerian economy. They won't teach anyone the practical application of knowledge to our environment, they won't really teach anybody how to surmount the various obstacles to free enterprise in Nigeria, and they won't teach the basic skills that we need to succeed in this environment - resilience, integrity, self-belief, and a strong work ethic.
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sure, these people are opportunists.

well, people who study here finds it more difficult because of the other factors which are not acedemic

by praying

Beaf:
. . .And their teachers were too daft to tell them that when you step up voltage, current drops; so, no energy is created (in line with the laws of nature). The foolish teachers probably think that increasing voltage means increasing energy.

please tell them again

evilb rain:
It warms my heart that Nigerians, and secondary school children at that, have built the world's first working perpetual motion machine. They have finally disproved that useless "1st law of thermodynamics" that oyinbo ignoramuses like Einstein and Stephen Hawkin have been bandying about for decades.

i can see that your brain is evil. it was joules that gave us 1st law of thermo with the work done by count Rumford, watts, Einstein takes about mass energy transformation and Hawkins is more concern with radio/astro physics

do you really need nuc approval to organize such shows

[quote author=kcjazzlink=topic=554265.msg7199760#msg7199760 date=1290506398]People are quick to quote science impossibilities, as if when the Wright brothers invented the plane, were scientists not skeptical and proved it impossible?[/quote]scientist had never for once said flying plane was impossible. rather, what they where doing was how to achieve that?

homerac7:
^^^
While d work of d youngsters is praiseworthy, it should not b presented as though they own d technology. D technology is all over town and is ordinary.
Secondly, d description is most inappropriate, unscientific and mischievously calculated to misguide unsuspecting public. There is nothing as fuel-less engine just as there is no effortless machine. It's a basic law dt energy(electricity inclusive) can neither b created nor destroyed. U only get conversion from a form to another. So if there's electrical energy output, wasn't there input? Is work output over input unity, thereby creating a perpetual motion machine wc engineering laws say r impossible?
D claim as published is plain silly and irresponsible. It's an engineering professional duty to show responsibility to d society and not mislead them. D project is merely a junior students work wc an electrical engineer will b quick to point out its crudeness as cheaper and less moving-part electrical components can easily b substituted for d mechanical parts to reduce wear losses and improve performance. They r only students dt need to b tutored properly and developed character wise. Definitely by teaching them sincerity and not deception or mediocrity.

pls tell them again. shout it into their ear if they don't understand.

Beaf:
^
They meant what we can read from the article and it really is rubbish. And what they meant is that they have succeeded in propagating pseudo-science through the minds of young children.
The whole affair is disgraceful and condemnable.
The able kids need to be taken from that sham environment and sent to better schools. In other countries, that school would be in danger of closing down for hubris, while the principal and staff concerned would never ever be able to teach again in any capacity.

in fact not just the teaching staff, imagine this been a national exhibition where the minister of information and women affairs was present. in fact all universities in Nigeria should be closed down with immediate effect and all our professors in science, engineering and technology given strokes of cane.

aze:
1989 when l was test running the net with Tim Bimmers-lee
[/quot[quote author=aze link=topic=553417.msg7198861#msg7198861 date=1290496885]1989 when l was test running the net with Tim Bimmers-lee

[/quote]oga stop driving us, we are not motor

what annoys me most is the fact that i had to travel miles to school just to know if we will be having a lecture 4 that day. to make things worst, you will go home empty brain wasting money, time and, what have you?

sure, go to bode thomas in lagos. the national population commission.

is this really an invention or ,

for me, it was in 1995. back then, you browse at 5o naira/ min since it was a dial up connection with the isp in america. then, we were browsing at international call rate.

i still live without one ;d

well, simulation and naiver strokes equation are very advance knowledge. if he had done nothing in this fields, then he would have nothing to present to the world

1 million a year is slavery for an MBA holder in Nigeria, not to talk of US. a fresh graduate will only barely try to survive on such salary, how much more a family man with say 4 children. he might go begging. if you intend to come back and work here in Nigeria, meet standard industries and negotiate for a million naira per month. if they offer something a little bit less, you may just throw in the towel.i know of a neighbor who was an accountant with multichoice with a salary of 1 M per month. she won a visa lottery and was confussed with either leaving the job to join her husband in the us, or keep her milk and honey job. she later left for the us.

cost of leaving is high here. to get and average 2 bedroom, you need 700 to 800k. but for GRAs, starting from 1 M and above. think of your car, cost of repair and maintenance, cost of fueling. what about recreations. well, if you need a life style close to what you have over there, think twice.

AjanleKoko:
^^
, We Nigerian professionals at home and abroad seem to be more focused on our earnings, than what kind of productivity, skill, and attitude we are bringing to the table.
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this is where Nigerian problems lies. we are not innovative enough to bring about the radical change in our science and technology. many of our universities are not really contributing to knowledge. they are more or less certificate awarding institutions. that is why thy will continue to be rated low in world rating