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PoliticsRe: Heavy Gun Shots In Abuja As Security Operatives Tackles Shiites- Video by Levant: 4:45pm On Jul 22, 2019
seunmsg:
This shite rubbish is getting out of hand. I have to turn back home this morning because of unbearable traffic caused by military road block around Nyanyan axis. Government should please leave Zakzaky alone and put him under intense security watch. With the way things are going, there may be a complete breakdown of law and order in Abuja. They can’t just keep the man locked away without proper trial and expect his followers not to react.
They should just allow him go seek medical care abroad. His health is already bad according to news. If he goes abroad, I doubt he would return. That's like self imposed exile. The man is already old and was shot and has lost an eye and has been in prison for four years without charge and he lost six sons to the military. That's a shaken man. Why still detain him in violation of court order?
PoliticsRe: NYCN Condemns The Approach Of Shi’ites Protesters In Abuja by Levant: 4:39pm On Jul 22, 2019
middlebelter:
they should go back to court and pursue matter to Supreme Court. They have history of violence and we cant watch why another Boko Haram evolves.
I am a strong critic of PMB, but on Shiite Matter, he has my support at least *05. All I want him to do is appeal the Court ruling if hes not ready to comply or work out a controlled release of El-Zakzaky the violent man.
Be spreading sugarcoated propaganda while you pretend to be neutral. How much have they paid you to blackmail innocent civilians and lost lives? You will die one day and those two pennies will not avail you.

They have a history of violence in your own history textbook that you wrote.

They have gone to supreme court and Bubu doesn't want to comply with the law and the courts.
PoliticsRe: Police Officers Evacuate Corpses of Shiite Protesters Killed In Abuja [PICS] by Levant: 4:11pm On Jul 22, 2019
gbagyiza:
let us be reasonable in most of our comment. If the federal government had handled this case with care, all these killings could have been averted. Buhari has something personal against this Shiite.
Buhari is listening to Saudi Arabia to curtail the spread of the Shia interpretation of Islam in Nigeria. Sunnis are losing grounds when Shi'ism spreads. And listening to Saudi Arabia to fight a sectarian battle at the expense of peace and harmony. Otherwise, there is no reason not to allow a group of people peacefully observe their faith and rituals. No reason to shoot at their religious processions or deny them police permit (which the constitution doesn't call for or necessitate for peaceful assembly). Tolerance is key. And lack of it has lead to this.

Shooting at them isn't the solution. It will only cause chaos in Abuja, the capital city of the nation, and win the IMN sympathy. They have repeatedly been shot at and it has not stopped them from protesting and calling for the release of their leader. At worse, send this man into exile. Allow him to go abroad to seek medical treatment and there is a big chance he won't return to the country. And then everyone live in peace. They have already killed six of his sons. These guys are already emotionally dead because of what they have experienced with with brute force. They have nothing to lose and it doesn't seem they will stop their protests. They're only getting emboldened each time they're shot at.
PoliticsRe: Police Officers Evacuate Corpses of Shiite Protesters Killed In Abuja [PICS] by Levant: 4:02pm On Jul 22, 2019
PrecisionFx:
Shiites worldwide are far deadlier than Sunni.

U people will not survive dem
Takfirism is a Sunni Wahhabi ideology. It has nothing to do with Shiites. At least the Shia have not gone about attacking other civilians, like the Sunnis will normally do out of anger. All the terrorist groups in the world targeting churches and people of other faiths are Sunni. Google Takfirism.

If they were deadlier, they won't be shot like chickens in the streets and their bodies flung into the back of a van like animals.
PoliticsRe: Police Officers Evacuate Corpses of Shiite Protesters Killed In Abuja [PICS] by Levant: 4:00pm On Jul 22, 2019
Wizklynd23:
In my humble view ,

Shiites should be declared a terrorist group

Simple
Oga get educated. Shia Islam is one of the two main branches of Islam. The other being the Sunnis. How can you ban a religious body? It is like calling for Catholicism to be banned entirely because the IRA are Catholics. Or calling for Sunnis to be banned because Book Haram and alqaeda are Sunnis.

Besides, these people are protesting the illegal detention of their leader.
CrimeRe: Shooting As Shiites And Police Clash In Abuja by Levant: 3:37pm On Jul 22, 2019
Fake News.

No gun battle. Police resorted to life ammunition to disperse unarmed protesters.

Those peddling the rumor of gun battle are mischief makers.
PoliticsRe: Channels TV Journalist Shot As Police Clash With Shiites In Abuja [Photo] by Levant: 2:57pm On Jul 22, 2019
And the bad news is that more blood of these Nigerian civilians protesting will spill in the capital city because IMN protesters are not scared to die for their leader, who is illegally detained. The court has asked for his release. They are going to continue to demand the release of their leader as we have seen. It isn't the first time they are shot at during protests. If shooting at them was the solution, they ought to have stopped by now. The chaos is now at the heart of Abuja, sadly.
PoliticsRe: New Picture Of El-Zakzakki And His Wife Emerges by Levant: 10:41am On Jul 19, 2019
Buhari has already opened a wound whose scar will outlive him. The Shiite aren't going to forget this in a decade or in a millennium. They will turn Zaria into another Karbala and it will become a land of martyrdom they will commemorate forever, like Shiites commemorate the Tragedy of Karbala. It will take much damage control, skillful dialogue, calls for unity, and remedy, compensation and peace making to heal the wound and cover the scar. But of course, under Buhari, soldiers and police are still hunting the Shia during their protests and religious processions and shooting them like birds.

There is already a mass grave containing hundreds of bodies of slain Nigerian Shia Muslims in Kaduna after the Zaria massacre. That mass grave will one day have to be exhumed when Buhari leaves office. The ICC is already handling the case on the Zaria massacre. And who says we might not one day see Buhari in the Hague for crimes against humanity? That is if he will be alive to face justice for his crimes against humanity. Buhari thinks he has western support and friends. General Pinochet and Saddam Hussein both had western friends and support. But we all know how they ended eventually.

Whenever there is a Sunni Muslim illiterate extremist from the north as president (with the exception of Yaradua, who was a civilian and an educated moderate leader), there is always an onslaught and persecution of the minority Shia Muslims, killing them and imprisoning their clerics. The Sunni presidents take orders from Saudi Arabia. Buhari is copying the Sunni led Arab countries of the Persian Gulf region in persecuting and dehumanizing Shia Muslims. And we know the Middle East is not the best place to emulate for peaceful coexistence, tolerance and harmony.
PoliticsRe: Court Adjourns The Hearing Of El-zakzaky Requesting Medical Treatment Aboard by Levant: 10:36am On Jul 19, 2019
Buhari has already opened a wound whose scar will outlive him. The Shiite aren't going to forget this in a decade or in a millennium. They will turn Zaria into another Karbala and it will become a land of martyrdom they will commemorate forever, like Shiites commemorate the Tragedy of Karbala. It will take much damage control, skillful dialogue, calls for unity, and remedy, compensation and peace making to heal the wound and cover the scar. But of course, under Buhari, soldiers and police are still hunting the Shia during their protests and religious processions and shooting them like birds.

There is already a mass grave containing hundreds of bodies of slain Nigerian Shia Muslims in Kaduna after the Zaria massacre. That mass grave will one day have to be exhumed when Buhari leaves office. The ICC is already handling the case on the Zaria massacre. And who says we might not one day see Buhari in the Hague for crimes against humanity? That is if he will be alive to face justice for his crimes against humanity. Buhari thinks he has western support and friends. General Pinochet and Saddam Hussein both had western friends and support. But we all know how they ended eventually.

Whenever there is a Sunni Muslim illiterate extremist from the north as president (with the exception of Yaradua, who was a civilian and an educated moderate leader), there is always an onslaught and persecution of the minority Shia Muslims, killing them and imprisoning their clerics. The Sunni presidents take orders from Saudi Arabia. Buhari is copying the Sunni led Arab countries of the Persian Gulf region in persecuting and dehumanizing Shia Muslims. And we know the Middle East is not the best place to emulate for peaceful coexistence, tolerance and harmony.
PoliticsRe: El-zakzaky, Dasuki Must Not Die In Detention – HURIWA Warns Buhari by Levant: 10:30am On Jul 19, 2019
TheFacelessMan:
No one will take to the streets for Dasuki....

But El-ZakZaky..... Nigeria would have to contend with Shiites worldwide.

Let's avoid Boko Haram 2.0 ooo. Shiites would be VERY WELL FUNDED if they decide to be terrorists.
Buhari has already opened a wound whose scar will outlive him. The Shiite aren't going to forget this in a decade or in a millennium. They will turn Zaria into another Karbala and it will become a land of martyrdom they will commemorate forever, like Shiites commemorate the Tragedy of Karbala. It will take much damage control, skillful dialogue, calls for unity, and remedy, compensation and peace making to heal the wound and cover the scar. But of course, under Buhari, soldiers and police are still hunting the Shia during their protests and religious processions and shooting them like birds.

There is already a mass grave containing hundreds of bodies of slain Nigerian Shia Muslims in Kaduna after the Zaria massacre. That mass grave will one day have to be exhumed when Buhari leaves office. The ICC is already handling the case on the Zaria massacre. And who says we might not one day see Buhari in the Hague for crimes against humanity? That is if he will be alive to face justice for his crimes against humanity. Buhari thinks he has western support and friends. General Pinochet and Saddam Hussein both had western friends and support. But we all know how they ended eventually.

Whenever there is a Sunni Muslim illiterate extremist from the north as president (with the exception of Yaradua, who was a civilian and an educated moderate leader), there is always an onslaught and persecution of the minority Shia Muslims, killing them and imprisoning their clerics. The Sunni presidents take orders from Saudi Arabia. Buhari is copying the Sunni led Arab countries of the Persian Gulf region in persecuting and dehumanizing Shia Muslims. And we know the Middle East is not the best place to emulate for peaceful coexistence, tolerance and harmony.
IslamRe: One Of World’s Oldest Mosques Found In Israel by Levant: 10:02am On Jul 19, 2019
Wrong title.

It is Palestine...not "Israel".
PoliticsRe: Shiite NASS Protest: It Was Not Local Gun But AK 47, Says Injured Policeman by Levant: 6:35am On Jul 10, 2019
don4real18:
It appears you don't know how the Shites operate. They don't care about the government, you or I. They don't care about other religions. If they love your daughter, they can marry her without your consent and so on and so forth. I challenge any shite Nairalander to deny this fact
Stupid mouthpiece! Aiming to mislead people.

All those christian girls kidnapped in palaces and forcefully taken by men who are Sunni northerners, were those done by Shia?

You're intimidating us to fear others based on the act that your own people have already done to Christian girls.
BusinessRe: Football (+/Other Sports) Betting Season 13 by Levant: 11:26pm On Jun 21, 2019
Please what does this mean:

Pls what does this mean in betting:

Nigeria (Home -3)
European Handicap
Germany v Nigeria
BusinessRe: The Unpleasant Experience Of A Foreigner On Bet9ja by Levant(op): 8:18am On May 31, 2019
has anyone experienced a similar thing?
BusinessRe: The Unpleasant Experience Of A Foreigner On Bet9ja by Levant(op): 8:04am On May 31, 2019
has anyone experienced a similar thing?
BusinessRe: The Unpleasant Experience Of A Foreigner On Bet9ja by Levant(op): 7:33am On May 31, 2019
Shibaraba:
Na Seun get bet9ja?
CC Seun for front-page.
BusinessThe Unpleasant Experience Of A Foreigner On Bet9ja by Levant(op): 7:27am On May 31, 2019
A foreign friend of mine wrote the below complaint about/to Bet9ja (has anyone experienced a similar thing):

Hello,

My name is *** ***. My username is ***. My email address is:

***

I am utterly disappointed and embarrassed by the attitude of your customer care agents.

I got a reply that appear racially motivated.

My account was suspended or deactivated.

I could not log in since yesterday.

I was asked to provide documents to verify my identity.

I had withdrawn the sum of N22,000 and deposited to my FCMB corporate account that bears my own surname (*** *** ***). For this reason, my account was suspended. I had severally deposited money to Bet9ja through this same corporate account. Then I had no issues in depositing from that account. Why do I have issues for withdrawing and depositing into it? And the withdrawal was approved by you! If it was a wrong withdrawal method, you ought to have decline the transfer, not deactivate my profile.

Immediately I made a withdrawal into the same bank account I was paying Bet9ja from, my profile on Bet9ja was suspended all of a sudden and without any notice. It makes me wonder if Bet9ja is a platform only to deposit money and not a platform to equally withdraw. I provided (through email) my passport data page copy, I provided my company documents, and my Nigeria Immigration Resident Card. All to no avail. The replies I got sounded as if I was being attended to by unlearned fellows. One of them said that the documents I provide must be issued and be acceptable in Nigeria. I took offense in this, as if it is a subtle message telling me that being a foreigner, my passport is not acceptable. I pointed out that my valid resident card was issued by the Nigerian Immigration. Most times I get no replies to hold a dialogue or to continue the dialogue and resolve the contested points. They leave me blank and unaware. They reply with a sentence or two repeating the same instructions.

I was told that the image of my passport data page was cropped. I then had to snap the passport from different angles while holding it, just to prove that it is genuine and I am genuine.

I have money in my account and I also have bet slips. It appears to me that there is more to blocking my profile than simply need for verification. It makes me wonder if Bet9ja doesn't want anyone to play and win but should always pay and lose. This attitude of suspending account of a customer will dent the credibility of your business. Users ought to have been verified at the registration process, so that no one will feel his rights are infringed. It is a breach of the trust I put in your business to block my account while I have money and bet slips in it. And you guys do not send email receipts of payments or a soft copy of bet slips to customers email, as proof, like other betting sites do. The customer is completely taken for granted as such. And now I am subjected to the attitude of your customer agents who sent me very mindless replies that sound indifferent and quite offensive.

I want this issue resolved amicably in earnest. I do not want the situation whereby I would have to start spreading this gist about your business online. I am giving utmost patience for this to be resolved and my account reactivated. Otherwise, I will not let this just go by. I will follow it up to the last step, even if it means asking my lawyer to write your organization.

I want this to be resolved amicably and for such not to reoccur and for you to take necessary steps to avoid such complications: verification of users and bank details during registration and sending receipts for payments and bet slips to users email address.

It is disheartening that I have spent hundreds of thousands of Naira on your website using the same bank account to fund my bets. The moment I won a meagre 60k and I withdrew 22k, my profile on your website got suspended.

Please I look forward to this issue being resolved soonest.

Thank you.
CC: Seun
CelebritiesRe: I Experienced Racism In Beirut - Tobi by Levant: 10:00am On May 26, 2019
Nazarethnaza:
Tobi, the Big Brother Naija housemate who shared his Beirut experience with a Punch's correspondent, disclosed that he experienced racism in Beirut. The reality show star who went on Beirut tour with Play Network Africa and other professionals from different spheres, disclosed that he had no idea what Beirut was going to look like but liked the sound of it and it turned out to be an interesting experience.

Recounting how he experienced Racism in Beirut, Tobi said; 

There weren’t many black people, at least not too many that I saw. There were many Arabs and a diversity of other people. Something funny that happened was a semblance of racism; although I would rather not use that exact word. We had reserved a club prior to the trip and when we got there, they tried to separate us from the crowd for whatever the reason was. We left because it felt disrespectful. It was like they put us in a corner. Aside that, the people of Beirut are relaxed and cheerful.

https://unclesuru.com/2019/05/26/i-experienced-racism-in-beirut-tobi/
The man is not sure if it was racism or not, and people are already jumping on NL. They reserved a space in a club and they were given their space. If he wanted to go and toast people or talk to strangers, there were no chains on him. Go there with your group and catch your fun and leave. Simple. Arab countries, and Middle Easterners generally, be they Muslims or Christians, are still conservative and even at times antisocial. If you don't know people, you don't talk to them or intermingle. If you do, your motive would be questioned. Even the the ladies go out with their partners or relatives. Most females roaming freely and approachable are foreigners. The lifestyle whereby you walk into a club and you see different people dancing and you just pick on anyone and start dancing with him/her and be rubbing bodies doesn't exist everywhere. Different cultures have different approaches to life.

But thankfully, Tobi is happy that some people recognized him at the mall in Beirut (read the link). That's good. He craves recognition. When no one send him for club, he is complaining.
HealthRe: Sex With Prostitute: My HIV/AIDS Test And Result Experience by Levant: 4:11pm On May 22, 2019
Seun, your mods do not read posts before they send to FP.

The OP mentioned disgrace twice. He is spreading stigma, which is very unjust. So those who weren't as lucky as he is are in disgrace? What sort of stupid backward thinking is that? He said if he has HIV and his uncle knows when asked to join the police, it will be disgrace. To collect ARVs is also disgrace. Very stupid. Next time he should go have unprotected sex with whoever and then come here to type rubbish. He is also associating HIV with prostitutes.
Foreign AffairsRe: How Iran Plans To Respond If Attack By Bully U.S. by Levant: 10:40am On May 21, 2019
Iran's Foreign Minister Accuses US of Provoking Conflict. Said Trump Withdrew from Nuclear Deal because He Dislikes Obama


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scuBPjcjufU
Foreign AffairsRe: How Iran Plans To Respond If Attack By Bully U.S. by Levant: 10:36am On May 21, 2019
Exclusive Interview: Iran's Warning to Trump: Don't Test Us


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSmQ56RR32c
Foreign AffairsRe: How Iran Plans To Respond If Attack By Bully U.S. by Levant: 9:29am On May 21, 2019
White House passes phone number to Swiss, in case Iran wants to call


By Kylie Atwood, CNN

Washington(CNN) After President Donald Trump publicly appealed to Iran to call him amid heightened tensions with Tehran, the White House contacted the Swiss on Thursday to share a phone number the Iranians could call the President on, according to a diplomatic source familiar with the move.

"I'd like to see them call me," Trump said of the Iranians in the White House on Thursday.

The source said the Swiss likely won't hand over the number unless the Iranians specifically ask for it and it's thought they are highly unlikely to do so. White House officials say Trump's overtures are sincere.

On Friday, an Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps commander said Iran would not engage in talks with the "Americans," IRGC Lieutenant Commander for Political Affairs Brigadier General Yadollah Javani told the semi-official Tasnim News Agency.

"Negotiations with Americans will not take place, and Americans will not dare to take military action against us," Javani added.

The White House did not reply to request for comment on the sharing of the number.

The US and Iran do not have an official diplomatic relationship and Switzerland serves as the protecting power for the US in the country. That means they represent US interests in Iran, performing services for US citizens in the country like visa processing. They also serve as a channel for diplomacy between the two nations though there are other mechanisms for the two nations to communicate.

US has increased its military presence
Trump's public overture comes as the US has increased its military presence in the region, deploying the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group and a bomber task force due to what administration officials say is "specific and credible" intelligence indicating Iran poses a threat to US forces in the area.

Shortly after Trump asked Iran to call him, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo issued a statement warning that the US would issue a "swift and decisive" US response to any attack.

Iran "has engaged in an escalating series of threatening actions and statements in recent weeks," Pompeo said, echoing Pentagon and unnamed US officials. He provided no specifics about the nature or scope of that threat, but other US officials have said that they've observed Iranian forces moving missiles around on boats.

US officials have said they see no sign the Iranian threat has dissipated and on Thursday CNN reported US intelligence indicates no sign of a "decrease in Iran's posture."

Iranian officials, however, including President Hassan Rouhani, have said they have no interest in a conflict. Foreign Minister Javad Zarif has said Tehran believes some US officials are trying to provoke Iran into a war, portraying it as a trap Tehran means to avoid.

Speaking in New York last month as tensions rose, Zarif said "It is not a crisis yet, but it is a dangerous situation. Accidents, plotted accidents, are possible." Referring to a group of foreign and domestic officials that includes national security adviser John Bolton, the Iranian official added that he "wouldn't discount the B team plotting an accident anywhere in the region."

This week marks the one-year anniversary of the US pulling out of the Iran nuclear agreement.

On Wednesday Iran declared it would ease its adherence to the international nuclear pact that constrains its nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief.

"The path we have chosen today is not the path of war, it is the path of diplomacy," Rouhani said when he made the announcement in a nationally televised address. "But diplomacy with a new language and a new logic."

The US has also taken recent measures that could make it difficult for Iran to adhere to the pact, ending non-proliferation related waivers that allowed Iran to export heavy water and low-enriched uranium to stay below levels mandated in the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, as the nuclear deal is formally known.

The US also introduced new sanctions on Iran this week to target their metal exports.

Iran rebuffed effort to secure hostage release
The Iranians also rebuffed a recent effort by the US to secure the release of an 82-year-old American citizen, Baquer Namazi, who has been detained in Iran for more than three years. His health is deteriorating, and the US argues that he needs to leave Iran to get medical help.

US Special Envoy for Hostage Affairs Robert O'Brien sent a letter to Iran requesting the release of Namazi at the end of April, according to sources familiar with the exchange.

If Iran lets Namazi leave, O'Brien wrote that the US would enter into a dialogue on consular affairs, which includes potential prisoners releases in both directions.

The State Department did not reply to a request for comment.

That letter was penned shortly after Zarif publicly stated that he wants a prisoner swap with the US.

"I put this offer on the table publicly now -- exchange them. All these people that are in prison -- inside the United States, on extradition requests from the United States," Zarif told an audience in New York last month. "The United States believes the charges against these people in Iran are phony, fine. Let's not discuss that, let's have an exchange. 'm ready to do it and I have the authority to do it."

But the Iranians rejected the offer made by O'Brien, according to the sources familiar with the exchange.

They said that there can be no preconditions before any potential talks. This was the second letter that O'Brien has sent to the Iranians in the last few months.

Namazi, a former UNICEF official, has been detained in Iran for more than three years. He is one of at least 6 Americans that the US government claims are wrongfully detained in Iran, including his son Siamak Namazi.

CNN's Nicole Gaouette, Hamdi Alkhshali and Mohammed Tawfeeq contributed to this report.

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/05/10/politics/white-house-iran-phone-number/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
Foreign AffairsRe: How Iran Plans To Respond If Attack By Bully U.S. by Levant: 8:30am On May 21, 2019
"We Won't Negotiate With the US and the US Will Not Dare Attack Iran" - Ayatollah Ali Khamanei, Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZBfukf9ZGM
Foreign AffairsSpread Of Wahhabism Was Done At Request Of West During Cold War – Saudi Heir by Levant(op): 8:02am On May 20, 2019
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Not Ripe For Electronic Voting, Says INEC by Levant: 7:55am On Apr 30, 2019
Electronic voting using thumbprint will help eliminate rigging. But then the distrust for inec will play and accusations that inec can ring the process will start. Therefore, along with electronic voting using thumbprint (to eliminate double or multiple voting and ensure one man, one vote), do away with the secret ballot. The process should be transparent or partially transparent at least. An electronic scoreboard at polling units should be mounted. Once a vote is made, the scoreboard changes. The people can follow up on the process live. Then to provide safety for the voter, physical barriers can be put in place, whereby if a voter enters from one door, he will come out from another doorway to exit the polling unit (then place two scoreboards at the entrance and exit, so the voter can identify his vote has counted)...possibly with a long corridor in between the point of voting and the exit. No body will wait for you to finish voting and come back to collect beating. Alternatively to or in parallel with physical barrier, tight security should be put in place to prevent intimidation of voters.

But it is essential for electronic voting using thumbprint and two live scoreboards at each polling unit to be mounted. That's the only way to ensure no election is rig and make the election process credible in Nigeria and similar countries where rigging is the order of elections. Otherwise, those saying no today and smiling will suffer rigging tomorrow and cry. Its turn by turn until the process is fixed to eliminate the slightest chance of rigging.
PoliticsRe: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by Levant: 3:43pm On Apr 15, 2019
amaniro:
Its just a little point BTW. Both Buhari and Atiku were not born in Nigeria... and probably the person self who started it. so why the fuss??
Do you have evidence Daura wasnt part of Nigeria as at 1960? Or do you have evidence Buhari wasnt actually born in daura? If you have evidence bring it forward. The thing is Atiku himself isn't denying that he was born in Jada.
PoliticsRe: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by Levant: 3:41pm On Apr 15, 2019
amaniro:
Guy I analyzed your argument and I think you're wrong. If this is so even Obasanjo, Buhari, Jonathan, Yaradua are not Nigerians! The whites caused all these fa
Were they born on territories outside those amalgamated in 1914, as Atiku was? What constitutes Nigeria as was known at independence in 1960 are those three regions amalgamated in 1914. Jada only became a part of Nigeria in 1961 (and wasnt part of the regions amalgamated in 1914).
PoliticsRe: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by Levant: 3:24pm On Apr 15, 2019
dancewith:
Your argument would have been valid if the constitution didn't state indigenous to Nigeria. It means upon the plesbicite those communities became indigenous to Nigeria and treated as if they had always been Nigerians.

The constitution made that much clear. On the extent of non clarity in this, the court are usually required to toe the line of common sense and justice.

How would you treat those communities? They are not Nigerian by naturalisation either as the constitution spelt out steps to become naturalized. Neither re they citizens by registration

Let's stop confusing issues where non exists
The definition of what constitute a "community" would then be contested.

Is the constitution referring to Fulanis as a community? Won't that make Fulanis in Senegal and Central African Republic eligible to vote and be president in Nigeria?

Or is the constitution referring to "indigenous community" meaning originating in Nigeria as a people living on the land?

You may say it is confusing issues, but there are precedents to be set. Sadly, the confusion is arising from the fact that those who became citizens through a plebiscite and were born before independence are not given mention in the constitution. Therefore people like Atiku born before independence aren't Nigerians by birth but through plebiscite, which is similar to referendum or naturalisation. Atiku has lost this. Mark this post! People of Jada born after the plebiscite, only, can then be considered as Nigerians by birth, not those before the plebiscite since the constitution is silent on their matter.
PoliticsRe: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by Levant: 3:02pm On Apr 15, 2019
amaniro:
After 10 years you can become a citizen of the country


Ok if Atiku is from Cameron. He's maybe 73 years. How many years has he spent in "Nigeria"
One is only eligible to become president of Nigeria by birth. If you were not born in Nigeria, then even if you become a Nigerian through other means, you cannot become president of Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by Levant: 2:59pm On Apr 15, 2019
I am neither APC nor PDP. Let me give by own opinion as a neutral observer.

I think Atiku has lost this. Not because he is not a Nigerian, but because there is a loophole in the constitution that cannot allow him to be regarded as a Nigerian by birth. The constitution is silent about the fate of those born before independence in a town like Jada, that only became a part of Nigeria after a plebiscite, in which the people chose to be part of Nigeria and not part of Cameroon.

Jada was ruled by Britain. It is similar to the issue of Kashmir that is disputed territory between Pakistan and India. The difference with Kashmir is that the will of the people of British Cameroon prevailed and they joined Nigeria. The Kashmiris have not been allowed to voice whom they want to join or whether to be independent. For the mere fact that Britain had ruled that land alongside with Nigeria doesn't make it a part of Nigeria that got independence in 1960. That land was part of German ruled Cameroon which was divided after the German defeat of world war 1 between France and Britain. When Nigeria was amalgamated by the British, that piece of land was ruled by Germany. Assuming today Ghanaians say they want to be part of Nigeria for the mere fact that they speak English and were British ruled, there would be need for the constitution to specifically recognize the Ghanaians born before 2019 as "Nigerians by birth" after joining Nigeria in 2019. If the constitution is silent on their fate, and the constitution states that for someone to become president he must be a Nigerian by birth, then Ghanaians born before 2019 cannot claim to have been born in Nigeria. Only those of Ghanaian descent born after 2019 would be considered as Nigerians by birth because Ghana ceased to be Ghana and became Nigeria only in 2019.

Assuming the constitution had stipulated that those born in a land that later joined Nigeria can also be considered Nigerians by birth, then the issue would be resolved easily. But the constitution is silent. And since Atiku was born in a land before independence that was not a part of Nigeria, then Atiku is not a Nigerian by birth but by naturalisation, more or less. Those born in Jada after independence and after the plebiscite of 1961 can thus be regarded as Nigerian citizens by birth, but not someone like Atiku who was born there before the plebiscite. Assuming, the constitution would have made mention specifically about the fate of such persons as Atiku and granted them right to be considered as citizens by birth, then it won't have been an issue. Laws are only formulated when there is need or through an event or incident. It doesn't mean Atiku is not a Nigerian and it doesn't mean Atiku is a Cameroonian because that land ceased to be a part of Cameroon after world war 1 and the defeat of the Germans. What became Cameroon was divided between France and Britain. and that land wasnt Cameroon after British rule. So Atiku is Nigerian but not by birth. And he is not to be considered Cameroonian either. It only means that since the Nigerian constitution is silent on the specific, Atiku is not eligible to become Nigeria's President. The president must be Nigerian by birth.

Whoever thought of this and decided to pick it up is a genius. And Atiku will lose it. It is just on the fact that he is not eligible to be Nigeria's president even though he is Nigerian but not by birth.

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