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Montazeri urges Nigeria to send Sheikh Zakzaky to Iran for treatmenthttps://www.tehrantimes.com/news/438360/Montazeri-urges-Nigeria-to-send-Sheikh-Zakzaky-to-Iran-for-treatment
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Afamed:My brothers from the east do not engage in sectarian bloodshed and madness. |
kingzizzy:I really doubt that was what he was even calling them to do. Watch the below. He was likely talking in similar terms. Does this sound like someone violent? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysGoWg0oxU4 |
Afamed:You're not lazy. You're just mentally weak. You won't understand the difference legally. Bin Laden committed crimes by killing over there thousand Americans. Look at the comparison you're making. And you dare call others lazy. |
CodeTemplar:Ask them to post the full video, let us know the context of what he was saying. This video appear either doctored or taken out of context to deliberately spread propaganda. They should post the full video of what he was saying. |
Afamed:Friendly fire. The officer was shot from the back. Receive sense. |
Afamed:You're a big fool for comparing the two. Bin Laden was not a US citizen. He was a fugitive. He masterminded the 9/11 attacks. How many attacks did Zakzaky mastermind in his over three decades of preaching? |
Afamed:Where are the arms? If these people had arms, would they have been killed in the thousands? And people with arms don't go on processions and protests and always insist they are peaceful. They use the arms to fight. |
NgeneUkwenu:Propagandist. So why were six of his sons killed? And thousands of his followers dumped in mass grave. Be careful so God doesn't unleash his anger on you and your loved ones. We saw how God made Bubu's son damage his skull. The blood of the innocent don't go in vain. The heavens will avenge. |
NgeneUkwenu:All you have been doing is to make threads to support sectarian bloodshed and persecution and spread propaganda against a section of Nigerians who hold a different belief from the majority. I do not trust the translation you are giving. I am not a Hausa speaker so I don't know if the translation is true. And if it is correct, who was he really referring to? Or was he narrating an historical event and that section was cut out and taken out of context to support massacre and persecution? Where is the full video? Hausa speakers should help us out. Besides, what do you expect from someone who's wounded and lost six sons to the brutal force of our military and thousands of followers? And this man and his followers keep insisting that they are peaceful and have no arms. If this man was a Sunnis cleric, his followers would have ran mad and even attacked civilians and cause uncontrolled and random madness. Lalasticlala please take not. This propagandist maybe spreading fake news. |
Sunnis should stop their lies. There are elements in the security forces that are anti Shia because they are pro Wahhabi Saudi Arabia. They view the Shi'ites as heretics. What happened in July, 2014 was not Jonathan joining your sectarian madness. Jonathan didn't order anything or any killings. An army patrol vehicle took the same route Shi'ites were plying during their Quds Day procession. As usual, the army said their way was blocked. Its always a coincidence that our soldiers always follow the same route that these people take for their processions and then end up shooting at them and claiming their way was blocked. Sunnis block our roads weekly for Friday prayers and Christian churches do and traditional worshipers do for their masquerades. Yet, no one kills them or forces his way through. After the incident happened in 2014, Jonathan, a whole president of the federal republic took a phone and called Zakzaky to apologize to him. Zakzaky rejected Jonathan's apology. Jonathan apologized as a the commander in chief, since soldiers were involved in killing three sons of Zakzaky and shooting 30 of his followers on the procession. El Rufai rejoiced that Zakzaky rejected Jonathan's apology: https://mobile.twitter.com/elrufai/status/509357416275009536 https://thenationonlineng.net/el-zakzaky-rejects-jonathans-sorry/amp/ Afterwards, El Rufai went to Zaria to pay condolence visit to Zakzaky. You can see the pictures all over nairaland and the internet. Now compare to what happened in 2015. Buhari justified the Zaria Massacre during his media chat, in which hundreds of Nigerians were killed by soldiers and dumped in a mass grave. No investigation and no one held responsible or punished for shedding the blood of civilians. Afterwards, IMN followers have repeatedly been shot at and killed during their protests and religious processions without any remorse, without any apology from the president for the loss of lives. Please you people should not include Jonathan in your sectarian madness and stupidity. You can continue killing yourselves if you like. Christians are not involved. Jonathan is a man who handed over power because the blood of Nigerians are not worth to be shed for his political ambitions. Why would he shoot at civilians in religious procession or order the killing of another man's sons? |
Shi'ite protesters clash with Nigeria military, police in Abuja Abraham Achirga and Afolabi Sotunde A police officer detains a young man after police dispersed members of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria (IMN) from a street in Abuja, Nigeria July 23, 2019. REUTERS/AFOLABI SOTUNDE Members of a Shi'ite Muslim group gather to pray over the bodies of those who died during clashes with the police in Suleja, Nigeria July 23, 2019. REUTERS/ABRAHAM ACHIRGA ABUJA (Reuters) - Nigerian troops and police clashed on Tuesday with Shi'ite Muslim protesters in the capital Abuja and gunfire could be heard, according to a Reuters witness. The air was thick with teargas as soldiers and police officers made arrests. The Shi'ite group marched in protest against the continued detention of its leader, despite a court ruling that he be released. The violence happened a day after at least three people - including a journalist and senior policeman - were killed in a similar confrontation in the administrative heart of Abuja. As many as 10 more people may have died in the violence, a spokesman for the Shi'ites said that day. A Reuters reporter witnessed the funeral in Nigeria's northern state of Niger for six of those the group said were killed during Monday's protest. A man whose child was killed during the protest said his son has become a martyr. "The only thing that will stop this protest is for the government to ... free our leader Sheikh Ibrahim Zakzaky," said Abdullahi Musa. "We are not armed. If we were armed, these people cannot face us. It's because they see we are unarmed that is why they are killing us, shooting us and this will never deter us from what we are doing," he said. President Muhammadu Buhari, a Sunni like the vast majority of Nigeria's Muslim community, warned in a statement before Tuesday's protest: "Let nobody or group doubt or test our will to act in the higher interest of the majority of our citizens." "Perpetrators of the mayhem will not go unpunished (and) no government can tolerate unceasing affront to constituted authority," he added. Islamic Movement of Nigeria (IMN) members regularly take to the streets of Abuja to call for the release of Zakzaky, who has been in detention since 2015. They say Zakzaky requires medical help. Live ammunition and teargas have been used by security forces in recent weeks. Clashes between police and Zakzaky's backers have raised fears that the IMN might turn to violent insurgency as did Sunni Islamist group Boko Haram after police killed their leader in 2009. (Reporting by Abraham Achirga, Writing by Paul Carsten, Editing by Gareth Jones, William Maclean and Bill Berkrot) https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1UI1RS
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If I were Buhari, this is the opportunity to shine Give the embassy 24 hours to hand the killer over to the NPF. If the embassy refuses, send in security agents to arrest him. The worse that will happen is for the country of the diplomat to go file a case at the UNSC. After arguing for some hours at the UNSC, everyone goes home. Make sure he doesn't flee through any of our airports and borders. Arrest him and make him a companion of Zakzaky and Dasuki. |
SonsOfLiverpool:These Wahhabis are extremists and cowards. They cannot fight. They only know how to blow up churches and civilians. The Shi'ites keep trouncing them in Iraq, Syria etc. on the battlefield. |
johnmartus:They have already met on the battlefield in Syria, Iraq and Yemen. And the Shi'ites have triumphed in all those wars. Who do you think was fighting ISIS in the Middle East? It is the Shi'ites. |
Bunch of Wahhabi retards and extremists protesting. Why doesn't the police shoot at these ones? They have no understanding of the law. They think we are in Wahhabi Saudi Arabia. These are the retards that are dangerous. They're likely hired/paid to protest for the continuous detention and abuse of the humans rights of another human being. This is despicable. |
pinkygurl:Don't mind them. They think we are all fools and cannot see the truth. Zakzaky has lost six children to the guns of the Nigerian army. He has lost thousands of followers massacred. All in the name of this people can become dangerous. Yet, after all the sufferings these people have faced, they have not turned into Boko Haram. They are still taking to the streets to publicly protest. And they are still shot at. Imagine if Zakzaky was a Sunnis cleric who lost six sons. The entire country would have boiled. The Sunnis would have started attacking Christians and churches as they are fond of doing. And these terrorists want us to fear that another group could become like them. That's exactly what they are saying. |
The man can aspire to have whatever system he believes is best in Nigeria, for so long as he doesn't take up arms and he doesn't lead fighters to cause violence. Because he has these ideas which represent his faith doesn't mean he should be imprisoned and his human rights violated. He should keep preaching peacefully and his rights to freedom of speech and religion guaranteed. If he can convince me with ideas, I can join him. If not, he should not forcefully impose his ideas on me. And that he has not done so far. We have only seen Sunni led military administrations with ties to the Wahhabi Saudis, who view Shi'ites as apostates and heretics, abusing and persecuting the Shi'ites. On this very forum, whenever the Zakzaky and Shi'ites issue is brought up, many northern Sunni extremists will reply that "Shi'ites are not Muslims" to justify treating them bad and persecuting them. This is Sunni Wahhabis trying to impose their Takfirism on Nigeria, using state resources and government agencies, to persecute a section of the nation that follow beliefs opposed to theirs. Please tell me in Nigeria which Sunni cleric doesn't aspire that Nigeria should become a sharia state? Name just one. Is it Gumi that doesnt want Nigeria to become a Sharia state? Or which one exactly? And the Sunnis have actually been the ones to implement and impose sharia law in the north. Now ask yourself. If Zakzaky was a Sunni cleric aspiring for sharia law and to turn Nigeria into an Islamic Republic, would buhari and other northern generals with close ties to Wahhabi Saudi Arabia imprison him? Our president himself have one time declared that he will not tire until Islam rules all of Nigeria. Has that led him into prison? How many Muslims are there who will tell you that they are against sharia law? This is their faith. Believe in whatever you think is the solution to our problems and whatever you think should be made law or whatever system should be followed, for as long as you don't use harm, violence or terrorism to impose it on others. The IMN has its ideology and mission. What Shi'ites believe is not secret or mystery. You can read it online. But have they imposed anything on anyone? This is just Sunnis settling scores with the Shi'ites using state resources. They are now presenting ideas to scare the average Christian and southerner. When in reality the very thing the Sunnis want us to be scared of about the Shi'ites, they have long been doing it to us while the Shi'ites have not. Nigeria is not Iran. Iran is over 95% Shi'ites. Even in Iran, before Ayatollah Khomeini made it an Islamic Republic after the popular revolution that uprooted the monarch, there was a referendum and Iranians freely voted in favor of an Islamic Republic. That is democratic. Have Nigerians ever had the opportunity to vote in a referendum on sensitive national issues? Was Nnamdi Kanu not chased into exile because he called for a referendum to decide the future of the country? Also, Iran can afford to have a revolution and an Islamic Republic. Nigeria is not a majority Shi'ite state and Nigeria is almost evenly divided between Muslims and Christians. So spare us the intimidation to justify violating the human rights and constitutional rights of Nigerians who have a different belief. The Shi'ites are not deadlier than the Sunni Wahhabis who blow up our churches and kidnap our girls. At least, Shi'ites are more tolerant to Christians and other faiths and they don't have Takfirism as an ideology to kill people that belong to other faiths as the Sunni Wahhabis have. |
"While moving the motion earlier, Bello had accused the sect of an “act of terrorism,” saying the act “seriously destabilised political, constitutional, economic and social structures of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.” The lawmaker said, “This act seriously intimidates the population of Abuja as well as its environs and damages or intends to damage corporate existence of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Such violent and unlawful assembly becomes sporadic and leads to the loss of lives and properties." ======= I'm afraid Buhari has succeeded in importing the Sunni-Shia sectarian rivalry and in fighting to Nigeria. Look at an ignorant lawmaker (likely a Wahhabi) that doesn't know what the law and constitution says. Doesn't the constitution grant freedom of assembly and freedom of protest and of speech and of religion to the citizens? No Nigerian, be he Shi'ite or Traditional Worshiper or Shintoist should be denied the right to freely practice his religion. Nigerian rights have long been trampled upon. Whenever Nigerians want to protest injustice and unfairness, it is either security forces will threaten their lives with bullets or politicians will hire thugs to infiltrate the protests and cause mayhem. We saw that when people wanted to protest Tinubu's toll gate in Lekki. Hired thugs shed blood. What the Shi'ites are doing is a fight for all Nigerians. They are teaching Nigerians through self sacrifice how to stand up for their rights and bring the politicians and thugs ruling us to shame. This is the fearlessness that is making them scared and shover from the Shi'ites. The Shi'ite ideology is centered on self sacrifice and martyrdom. If they don't be careful and grant these people their rights as citizens, Buhari will cause a problem that will outlive him and shake the entire nation to it's core. |
Antoeni:This hypocrite rushed to condole with Zakzaky in 2014 when there was a road block incident in 2014 with an army patrol vehicle that led to the killing of three sons of Zakzaky. He was jubilating that Zakzaky rejected Jonathan's apology. Shameless midget. |
fabre4:That is very ungrateful and untrue. When buhari's Sunni fanatics were randomly targeting Christians in the post election violence of 2011 in Kaduna, it was Zakzaky and his Shi'ite guys that gave refugee to Christians and shielded them. My very own brother, a father of five children almost lost his life if not for the Shi'ite guys who came to his rescue and freed him from those animals who lynched him and wanted to kill him. I will be forever grateful to those guys. The govt and Sunnis, known for their chronic lies, want to paint these guys bad. They are not bad or extremists. They have had too much abuse and brute force meted on them. Let them be free to practice their religion. Enough is enough. |
Elemosho478:Killing people that don't belong to to faith is not jihad. It is called Takfirism. It is the the Sunnis extremists called Wahhabis that subscribe to that doctrine. You can google the term. |
Difrent:Didn't Buhari come out on media chat and defend the Zaria Massacre? Did Buhari apologize like Jonathan did? Is it not the same buhari detaining someone for four years after court ruling to free him? Did he punish anyone for the Zaria Massacre? Will soldiers attack private properties, after the road block incident in Zaria, and demolish buildings if the government didn't permit them to? |
Babaheekmat:Wahhabi terrorist. By the time they take up arms, you can't stand them. We have seen how the Shi'ites crushed you Wahhabi terrorists (ISIS, alqaeda and co) in Syria and Iraq and how they're giving a tough time to the Saudis in Yemen. Don't bring your sectarian war to Nigeria. We Christians in the military and government are not ready to die for your sectarian war. |
Walexybobo:Its very simple. Buhari is a megalomaniac. He is jealous that Zakzaky pulls more crowds in the north than he does. You should view videos on youtube of "Ashura jn Zaria" and see how millions of Shiites come out from all across the country to hear Zakzaky deliver his sermon. And this Zakzaky has diehard followers. Buhari is also Sunni. And he listens to the Sunni extremist Wahhabi Saudis, whose job is to behead Shiite protesters and persecute them. |
They now know that whenever they come out to protest, police will shoot at them. They are now persistent. And since they are not afraid to die for the release of their leader, they are continuing. And the police and security agents keeps shooting in the heart of the capital city of the country. This means the Shi'ites are succeeding in interrupting and disrupting daily and business activities through the reaction of the police, who are meant to ensure law and order. This will also give a bad image to foreigners and investors. As for those defending the police yesterday, what cause was there today for the police to shoot at them? |
Babaheekmat:Are Wahhabi bloodsuckers Muslims? You're just giving your religion a bad name. |
Babaheekmat:Terrorist Wahhabi. |
Citizenshelm:He sent police to use live ammunition on unarmed protesters. The police stray bullets killed one of their own officers from the back of his head and a reporter. He is mourning these two people. Are the unarmed protesters shot not worthy of sympathizing with their families. Are they not humans and Nigerians? Oh well...he already buried them in mass graves in Zaria. So no surprise. ICC is loading for Saint Bubu. There was no violent protest by the IMN. Police attacked a protest demanding the unlawful detention of a cleric. That's the fact. The bloodsucker is trying to paint a humane picture of himself while killing innocent protesters. He is killing the children of others. Godless man. |
Elemosho478:Exactly. Because he is Sunni he wants to lead Nigeria as if we are a Sunni state to fight his sectarian Saudi inspired wars on Shi'ites. Our these guys are pushed to the wall and they take up arms, it our children, father's and brothers from the south he would send to die for his sectarian war that is of no benefit to nation building. |
ChemBrodar:There was no bloody protest. There was attack on protesters using live ammunition by the police. These guys should be freed. |