₦airaland Forum

MikeCZAR:
No fly zone in Libya. Western led.

He come out on top and Abacha died overdosing via.gra.

Today one leader is celebrated worldwide.

lol, the emphasis isn't on Mandela or Abacha. It is about the political naivety of South Africa since there first democratic rule.

ozoigbondu:
DSTV has been playing us as football i suggest we boycott dat cable that toys with us and embrace any other cable that shows live match

I have stripped myself off from everything south Africa. Ported my mtn line to airtel and bought a new glo. Dropped my dstv for ctl. South Africa is a vicious, greedy animal. Remember when mtn told us per second billing wasn't possible?

MikeCZAR:
who come up on top between both leaders?

What misstep?

Supporting sanctions on the brutal Abacha regime?

Didn't Nigeria support a UN resolution in 2011?

what UN resolution? Mandela went out of his way to get attention

jln115:
Then why did Iran ask for our assistance with there nuclear program?

probably to know what you offered Israel and then they double it considering the relationship between the US and Israel.

MikeCZAR:
who's celebrated today worldwide between him and Abacha?

Wrong country?

It was never between those two. It is about south africa's political misstep since self rule began.

jln115:
Firstly you are assuming i'm black, which im not BTW. I'm actually your so called Anglo-Dutch so yes i find your pots racist, but don't worry i'm not really bothered.

Secondly Mandela sanctioned Nigeria for the exact same reason the rest of the world sanctioned South Africa,Nigeria was a dictatorship and your people weren't free just like the majority of South Africans weren't free.

If Mandela did anything but sanction Nigeria it would've gone entirely against every thing he stood for.

Firstly Mandela was in no position to sanction Nigeria, he merely supported the west.

Secondly, South Africa isn't still a democracy or free. She has a civil rule/government not democracy. The ANC is a civil dictatorship.


Thirdly, you are not an anglo-Dutch by any means. Mixed maybe, at worse you're Anglo-Dutch influenced.

Lastly, you managed murder truth in all your posts.

jln115:
And what proof do you have that we cant? Iran came to us for help with there Nuclear weapons program not to long ago, obviously we declined

and quit this foolishness about nuclear. You never had the technology, not then, not since


Israel was helping you out before the American halted the process.

jln115:
And what proof do you have that we cant? Iran came to us for help with there Nuclear weapons program not to long ago, obviously we declined

if you need proof of that then you must have sawdust for brains.

MikeCZAR:
No, he was in touch with the outside.

Ever heard about collective leadership? You Mandela at his age in around 94 actually stayed in office?

You think Buhari at his will actually stay in office? Nope, before 1pm he'll be going home.

So you're saying SA should have supported Abacha?

he shouldn't have meddled in a matter not in his league. It was foolhardy

We all know he was rushing to make a statement but darn, he chose the wrong country.

jln115:
We all know that!!but the fact remains,we can build a dozen nukes at any given time when needed.
Can Nigeria do that?

you can't.

Israelis were helping you then. Now with ANC mumuism, you will nuke your cities if you attempt to do it by yourselves.

jln115:
I wasnt trying to teach you nationhood or international politics, i was trying to teach you common sens, but i think your a lost cause!

And again im just going to ignore your racist bullsh;t.

common sense in what, son?

What racist shiitt? That is reality not racism.

South Africans are allergic to truth. I'm beginning to wonder if it's a post apartheid trauma.

To tell you how daft your political leaders are, Mandela spent his prime in detention, shot out of humanity, out of touch with real life and political perception for many,many decades. oblivious of the happenings at the UN, commonwealth, and OAU

But the first thing he did was to go against Nigeria and supported the sanction by US, Canada and UK.

You know the rest, as soon as Abacha announced the exclusion of the Super Eagles from participating in South Africa '96, your government officials were all over Abuja after numerous pleadings over the phone didn't work.

Well, we gave you a horrible hosting show and the trophy you eventually won palled in significance to the abscence of Nigeria.


South Africa still haven't changed today. The same ignorance and FALSE knowledge is still being exhibited.

And you are a chief example of ignorance built on poor foundation of history.

Msauza:
If you do not have any knowledge about nuclear technology, just humbly ask South Africans and they will be ready to lecture you.

Nuclear weapon fuel does not expire and SA made it cleat that it won't convert it because it might need it in future.

stop this nuclear rubbish. South Africa is not a nuclear nation.
Full stop.

jln115:
Uhm....what does this post have to do about the fact that you dont understand sarcasm?

it is a direct response to the inscription on your jpeg.

jln115:
To bring people like you, back down to earth!!We are doing you a favor by posting facts, thus preventing you from believing the sh;t that comes out of your mouth and turning you into an Ignorant f00l! Although i must say its an uphill battle!

you must be a kind hearted 21st century African missionary then. But I find it hard to accept that south Africa would be the only benevolent African country, of over 50 African countries there is.

Unfortunately, your education started in 1994 when the rest of humanity has moved on and mastered the art of nationhood.

you can't give what you don't have.

You can't teach what you haven't finished understanding.

Before you knew what international politics is, Nigeria had already started international diplomacy in the UN and common wealth to allow you into the mainstream of civilization.

You don't believe me? then ask your Anglo-Dutch overlords .

You only motive here is to learn how we became your superiors in all spheres of life once you no longer have the Dutch as your cover up.

Next.

agaugust:
South Africa lives on propaganda, the whole country is an over hyped bundle of criminally minded deception
.

the country has even acknowledged its own deception. Mr. Ronnie kastril who was part of the SANDF in Angola has admitted official tampering of the war records.

A country that believes its own media hype.

South Africa is a fantasy land.

MikeCZAR:
To influence what was happening in the battlefield.

yes, I agree, especially when communication lines have been destroyed by the Angolans. They needed whatever boost they can get.

jln115:
You right bro!!It does rip through my heart,you have definitely showed me!

yeah, and perhaps you would be kind enough to feed my curiosity as to why is it only South Africans that are here given the number of African countries there are?

[quote author=jln115 post=32487584][/quote]you mean you are a product of inbreeding? An inherent trait along the family tree.

Please I do not appreciate vulgarity.

jln115:
Cool with me mate!as i said i really enjoy reading that sh;t!!

"sh;t!!" betrayed you.

It rips through your heart .

jln115:
I dont know! What does your forum say?

of course you really don't know. What you don't know, you argue, and when you run out of point you start lying.

So what else don't you know?

You're here just for your love of Nigerians.

Thanks for being a self-confessed troll

jln115:
Because your forum said so?

So why did a terrified P.W Botha have to fly into camp so late into the war?

jln115:
Hahahaha what ever dude!!!! go read your forum!

I will be getting you more excerpts, son.funny SANDF propaganda is all over the web.

No smoke, they say, without fire.

jln115:
Dude!! every thing you say is irrelevant!
you quote from a forum and claim it as fact, you have lost the little credibility you had left!

no south African on this thread has earned the right to question my credibility.

It stands irrespective of your banter. Ronnie Kasrils your own sandf team made it so.

Chester Crocker made it clear.

Your account and opinion are inconsequential.

Msauza:
SA still has the nuclear weapon fuel, they have only dismantled the bombs and can assemble them anytime.

that's beside the point. You were losing the war and were desperate.

Patchesagain:
The United States Marine Corp's challenges it.

Chester Crocker used his office in the American governmen to make it so.

Msauza:
Your source credibility remains in doubt before the academia.

Ronnie Kasrils is a south African who wrote monthly review experienced that war as a youth. He was part of south Africa defence intelligence unit but he just love to tell the truth.
You lost.

jln115:
"whether you call it a forum or whatever name that comes to mind,"
I call it a forum because it is a forum!! it even says so on the page itself!

"And lemme ask you, I thought forums are suppose to be interactive and not a long narrative of events."
Any random person can comment on a forum, thus if he decides to post long narratives he can, there are no rules against it!

"Well you can cry all you want now. Your lies and deceit has finally been exposed."
Naaa!!! Think im ok....you just keep posting your extracts, they are enjoyable to read!!

Failing to take Cuito Cuanavale with over 9,000 soldiers even after announcing to the world that Cuito Cuanavale had fallen; losing its superiority in the air; and faced with mutinies from the black troops of the pressed ganged battalions, the operational command of the SADF broke down and the president P.W. Botha had to fly to the war zone inside Angola. Botha, it was later revealed had flown in to intervene in a dispute among the South African military high command on whether the apartheid army should use tactical nuclear weapons. Botha decided against the use of nuclear weapons because at that time apartheid South Africa was a pariah state.

jln115:
"do you mean a forum like nairaland?"
Jap its exactly like Nairaland!

"The facts are undisputable, the details clear and names and commanders where boldly written"
You mean the so called facts you quoted from a random guy on a forum? cool story bro!

Come back when you have a credible source mate!

whether you call it a forum or whatever name that comes to mind, none of your sources dare challenge this. It dispays your lies and propaganda for the world to see


And lemme ask you, I thought forums are suppose to be interactive and not a long narrative of events.

Well you can cry all you want now. Your lies and deceit has finally been exposed.

You have to adjust to life in the open now.

Henry120:
I see you are also blind

However, the money to be spent on the new jets was originally earmarked to buy crucial freight carriers needed for South African troops abroad.


Zuma has blown away the money.

@patches689 ,denial runs in his DNA. He accepts nothing. A carrier-troll whose only gateway from boredom is meaningless and long arguments.

Patchesagain:
You are posting info from forums

That does not count as a reputable source.

By comparison - I have destroyed your argument with clear and concise information from a USMC military study on the war.

I am sorry that it does not suit your world veiw, but facts are facts. Deal with it

A forum that had the names and figures of all the commanding officers and number of troops from each battalion?

A forum that intercepted a radio communication message by SANDF reporting the actual lose of troops in battle to be later modified by SANDF propaganda writers?

A forum that confirmed the claims of dozen of other forum who attested to the falsification of war casualties by your inefficient generals?

This "forum" that reported the actual model and specification of your troops, artillery, armoured vehicles and tanks.

Well I have just proved that a forum is more authentic, detailed and reliable than your propaganda sources of deceit and lies.

Not even Chester Crocker can deny this.
But you can, because acknowledgement of truth is way beyond your capabilities.

DENIAL DO NOT CHANGE FACTS

Patchesagain:
Unlike Nigerian soldiers:

- they all have the same uniform
- they are all wearing the same webbing
- none of them have been forced to wear civilian clothing due to the deficiencies in their kit
- thier kit is their personal property issued for free by the SANDF.
- they were transported there by the same vehicals (not a hodge-podge collection of transports)

and they always get randomly defeated each and every time. HIV looking soldiers. Your kit money will always go into the purchase of anti-retroviral drugs and immune boosters for your poorly kit soldiers who couldn't take out rhino poachers.

agaugust:
Bwahahahahaha....SANDF deployed 3,000 men for training...see the photo below....NO KIT, no fvcking kit for SANDF troops
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hmb, tattered looking soldiers. Really looking unfit.