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patches689:
World bank data:

53% of Nigerians live in poverty
http://povertydata.worldbank.org/poverty/country/NGA

16% of South Africans live in poverty
http://povertydata.worldbank.org/poverty/country/ZAF

Do you actually beleive your own lies?

Patrick, will you stop this nonsense!!!

You live in deceit and thrive in controversy!!! That's your only means of escape from your miserable geopolitical realities.

Only 33% of Nigerians are poor:
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/only-a-third-of-nigerians-are-poor-says-world-bank/184323/

Take south African's own data in JPEG below:

I'm sitting here watching Patrick sweating feverishly hard to refute the submissions of someone whom he says no one takes seriously.

Sweat on, dummy!!!

patches689:
Tears? I see only facts.

And the facts tell us that everything you have said is untrue and frankly ridiculous.

You are truly a sad human being - no one here takes you seriously after you tried to tell us South AfRica is not a member of BRICS

The only tears here are yours... tell me are you one of the over 60% of nigerians who live in poverty??

Patrick, my delusionary friend. You never cease repeating these redundantly stale lines of yours!
Seems I always manage to seat on your nerves each time I leave a comment

Since World bank has given us irrefutable statistics that only 33% of Nigerians are poor, data from your own country says 45% South Africans live below the poverty line.

As of yesterday, the BBC was trending south Africans crowding the streets with billboards begging for jobs like the physically handicapped

You keep consoling yourself and attempting to rewrite your history in the pages of Nairaland but it won't fly.

I'm sorry you have to be born to witness the Darkest moments of South Africa's history. Not even in apartheid were things this bad.

Once again live with your frustrations and keep it within your borders.

Welcome to the slide to irrelevance

Political minion.

OohLalah:
Perfect description of yourself. Actually Nigerians at large!
Now phuck-off!

Rape-conformist!!!

Aren't you that naija pïmp's courier?

OohLalah:
hit a nerve! Story time!

OohLalah:
I tell ya! Frankly we dont give a dammmn but if they are nursing funky ideas of getting visa free agreements with us? They are on a long thing as they say.

We are already up to our neck with their influx without a free visa, imagine with one? Never!

OohLalah:
Lol! Someone's feeling funky! Nigerians and their feelings of self importance.

Ugosample:
You have made some points,, but Africa MUST not go the China way. Africa should go the AFRICAN way.
The problems we always have is that we use western economic models which does not help us much.
Developing home grown models is the only way out.

And besides, your talk of World Bank/IMF is not entirely correct too.
IMF imposes the same conditions worldwide.
You cannot borrow money from IMF to pay subsidy or something like that. You have to use the money for productive stuff, and that is why Greece is in hot soup today. Greece is a European country, but go and see the conditions and austerity they have to swallow.
If not that Greece used Euro, they would have been told to devalue as well.
So don't make it look like it's only Africa that they target.
Also look at south Korea too

Makamuanwuo:
33. South Africans will kick down a statue of a dead white man but won’t even attempt to slap a live one. Yet they can stone to death a black man simply because he’s a foreigner.

Thiza:
FACTS AND OPINIONS

AFRICA DAY - WHO REALLY HAS THE BIGGEST ECONOMY?

Much has recently been made of reports that Egypt has overtaken South Africa as Africa’s second largest economy and that we have now slipped to third place - with Nigeria in first place. All this has added to South Africa’s sense of national decline - after having prided ourselves for so long as being in an unassailable position as the continent’s largest economy. Commentators must now console South Africans with the reassurance that we are still the most “highly industrialised” economy in Africa.

The relative size of economies is generally measured by assessing their Gross Domestic Products on a PPP (Purchasing Power Parity) basis - which irons out kinks caused by the differences between official exchange rates and the actual purchasing power of the currencies involved.

In terms of PPP GDP China in 2015 already had the largest economy in the world - US$ 19,392 billion, (17% of global PPP GDP) compared with the EU at US$ 19,205 billion and the United States at US$ 17,947 billion. India was next with US$ 7,965 billion.

The largest economy in Africa was Nigeria at 22nd position in the world with a PPP GDP of US$ 1 092 billion. Egypt, at 23rd place, had a slightly smaller PPP GDP of US$ of 1 048 billion. South Africa limped in at third place in Africa and 30th place in the world with a PPP GDP of US$ 724 billion.

But it was not always thus. Nigeria suddenly assumed the leading position in 2014 after recalculating the basis on which its GDP was assessed, increasing it overnight by 89%.

The new figures were apparently verified by the IMF and the World Bank. However, if one considers other core factors relating to the Nigerian and South African economies, some of the statistics just don’t seem to add up. So, for example, the Nigerian Federal budget in 2014 was US$ 30,4 billion compared with South Africa’s budget the same year of US$ 115 billion.

Consider also the fact that South Africa with its 54 million people consumes more than 10 times as much electricity as Nigeria with its 177 million people. South Africa’s consumption of 234 million MW hours/year was the 15th highest in the world. We have over 2 000 shopping malls (the 6th highest number in the world) compared with 12 - 15 in the whole of Nigeria. Our exports and imports in 2013 amounted to US$ 198 billion compared with Nigeria’s total trade of US$ 135 billion. 90% of Nigeria’s exports were oil and oil products - which have fallen by more than 40% in the past two years.

In 2015 South Africa produced 615 000 motor vehicles and we had 165 cars per 1000 people. Nigeria had 31 cars per 1000 people. Nor is it a question of Nigeria having a prosperous rural farming sector. 62% of the population live below the international poverty datum line of US$ 1,25 per day - compared with 9.4% of South Africa’s population.

Also, in terms of financial services South Africa appears to be far in the lead. The value of shares on the Johannesburg Stock Exchange is US$ 790 billion, compared with the US$ 47 billion on the Lagos Exchange. South Africa’s banks and financial services are also rated amongst the best in the world by the World Economic Forum’s Global Competitiveness Report.

Egypt probably has a better claim to being the continent’s largest economy. Its budget is US$ 85 billion and its foreign trade was US$ 97 billion. It has 28 Cars per 1000 people. However, only 1.2% of its population live below the US$ 1,25 poverty line - which means that there is a much higher general level of prosperity among its people than there is in South Africa.

What it comes down to is the need to be skeptical about statistics. As one commentator observed, they are like bikinis - more important for what they conceal than what they reveal. Nevertheless, whatever South Africa’s real economic ranking in Africa may be, we are slipping with each year that passes. During the past three years the Sub-Saharan economy has grown by an average of 4.5% compared with South Africa’s growth of only 1.3% in 2015 - and projected growth of 0.4% this year.

Dave Steward is Executive Director of the FW de Klerk Foundation.

http://politicsweb.co.za/opinion/does-nigeria-really-have-the-largest-economy-in-af

postmann:
[b]
And I wonder what stock of a woman you are:
A low-cut, hypoactive-testosterone, ball grabbing, graceless hermaphrodite. A love-less and lonely half-wit.
A mental degenerate reeking with a false sense of pride. A mis-educated, contagious ignoramus.

What better ways could you have described your life these past few days? What do I have to argue with a fellow who didn't know Dubai is a city and not a country? Or that westernisation is different from science and technology?

You greedy she-monster that has sold out her soul to the glossy screens of Hollywood, what do we have in common?

You're an intellectual nuisance. A disgrace to womanhood. A spiritually compromised devil's lab project. A neurodegenerate specimen of the whiteman's mental slave project.

Why would I want to have an enlightened convo with you? The gathering of enlightened sensibilities reject your kind. You have no place amongst her fold. You're a floating jetsam with no place to call home. A worthless traitor banished by her father's people and a laughing stock of the whiteman who saw through your fakery and lack of distinction --a plastic toy of the real deal. That's the sum total of your miserable life.

#ComeBackHome #DearVagabondo[/b]

CSTR6:
The west is not your problem. Look at how the west developed japan and korea. Is it a crime if Nigeria becomes another korea?
Your leaders hide their uselessness under the toga of anti western rhetorics and people like you gobble it up.
I can assure you that in a million years, you would not be able to confront or challenge the west, so you better learn how to elect leaders that are smart enough to leverage western developmental technologies and policies for african development.
Japan and korea for example has handed over their national defences to the control of the united states in return for large american investments. The US gets allies and a sure foothold in south-east asia against communist china, while the japanese and koreans gets western aided economic development and western level prosperity in return, and i am sure their well-fed, prosperous citizens have not regretted it ever since.
Hating the west is madness. The most prosperous nations in the world are either western nations or proped up by the west.

iAmCharis:
Haven cooked with firewood, gas and kerosene stove, I can authoritatively say that food cooked with firewood tastes way better!! There's just something about it.

MarieSucre:
Smar.tChoices lolz. whewwww you're an interesting fellow

MarieSucre:
lolz "off the hook". more like you ran out of anything sensible and had to use style to escape the thread.
Honestly you need to come back tho. le.zz is no challenge at all. Like he keeps spouting off the same bullshitt over and over again like a scratched DVD.
Come and save le.zz ass(no homo), or at least fight for all the men who might be turned to transgender women if they're not allowed to beat their wives or Nigerian women start passing on citizenship.

You quote everyone with the spasmodic neediness as if it will cure your mental epilepsia major!!!

If quoting folks were drug, you'll be high on overdose.


But I get you, here's your true getaway from your boredom and uneventful life of intellectual redundancy.

Worthless tagalong is what you are.

Moronic Cocotte!!!

MarieSucre:
Agreed to your points. looolz. Bitcch where? How? When? hahahahaha Did you use weed to cook beans today?

MarieSucre:
So it is fair that men should be the ones to suffer the evils of the night? You're ok with that. Do you think men's lives are any less expendable than women?
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Then why don't you le.zz campaign that it be officially struck off our constitution. Leaving it there is creating room for husbands to abuse that so called 'beating law'. Plus it's not a good look in the constitution supposed giant of Africa.

It is a patriarchal society, it is also a Democratic society on based on 21st century humanist values. That law has no place there. Its just f**king backwards. A lot of the great minds and contributors to advanced countries in today's world would have never had their due recognition if such an illiterate, regressive law was applied to their mothers. I'm very sure you've praised one or tow of them online.

The discrimination is ridiculous. Even after a woman stabbed her husband to death for cheating and we roundly lambasted the issue here on Nairaland. You don't think male police officers need such safe guards too?

MarieSucre:
Wage is different from total earnings! one, two, repeat after me. Wage is different from total earnings! A male banker and a female banker get the same salary. The woman salary might not go higher due to these factors.
1)marriage
2)Childbirth
3)Field of Concerntration.

MarieSucre:
Now go and read that article you posted because that's where I got this information from. No woman likes an illiterate man. Its a very ugly trait.

MarieSucre:
45 western countries gave suffrage before Southern Nigeria not even the full Nigeria(Northern Nigeria 1978). Out of the 3 European countries which you posted above, all have passed gender and marriage equality laws. France cabinet comprises of equal number of men and women as minister. Brother lez.z where does Nigeria rank on this index? Let the answer speak for itself.

BossKratos:
That should have actually been the job of their paymaster! But unfortunately since the time of the 'coogar and babe 3' episode where I was a party to a lot of "behind the scenes activities", I noticed that a lot of them in the most valued sections of nairaland are 'kinsmen of the paymaster'!




So there seems to exist a sort of 'tribal, religious and ethno centric camaraderie' between them for either a job well done in victimising influential monikers or to carry out the wishes of themselves or the paymaster! This cabal is comprised of many old members on nairaland! Those with registered times of "2007, 2009 or as recently as 2013", and a few newer members who are well known butt munchers or mod suck ups or who also follow the paymaster!






That's why you see some of them claiming that people should check their profile to get an understanding of who they are! Or referring to their connections or referencing their schools and departments! Forgetting that even a 50 year old man can register on nairaland TODAY! Or that really OLD MEMBERS can be reborn with a new identity!





Some of them are so petty that even events that occur between monikers they know nothing about forces them to pick sides based on gender bias! This is normal with the female mods in the romance section and is currently permeating the miss nl threads! Where mods ban members of groups who support a popular candidate in order to create an undue advantage for their "ethnic choice!"




It is a sad indictment of the psyche of our nigerian youth that a forum such as this has also been afflicted with the same tribal, religious and corrupt bigotry that has put nigeria in its current pathetic state and has disenfranchised its youth!




We may be 2 lone voices in a desert, but let mr osewa read these words on marble and decide how he wants posterity to judge him and his creation! As for his mods? Well they are all inconsequential in the grand scheme of things! That will always be the "destiny of the replaceable!"

BossKratos:
I guessed as much! But evil will persist if good men do nothing! These are little boys and girls who would not even have the temerity to look you in the eye if they were to be in ones presence! But they come online and start tarnishing this seun guys creation with their tribalistic and political nepotism and unfortunately it is beginning to look as if he Is either in support or unaware!





Anyway I have notified their foolish click! I will haunt and frustrate any of their efforts at free speech! Once they get out of line I will be there to cc their colleague to see if they would also receive a 2 month ban or if they would be given carte blanche to keep spewing their "zombie and ipob sentiments"!





At least now seun can not claim to be UNAWARE of what is going on! No justice no peace!

BossKratos:
I notified you personally and sent countless emails to you and your mods about the blatant victimisation and favouritism exhibited by your mods on this thread yesterday!


www.nairaland.com/3123551/drop-message-nigerdelta-militants



Today I have noticed that the incriminating evidence has been cleaned up by your mod and the other monikers involved are still active! Its a shame that you are letting clicks of mods and their cyber associates decimate the reputation of your blog!



You now have serial offenders openly stating how they can't be banned for bullying or insulting others, but when other monikers retaliate or come to the aid of others, your mods resort to protecting their political associates or offline friends by giving them bans!



I have witnessed this thrice hence why I decided to come to the fore yesterday! The choice is yours! Do what is right or sit back and watch the carnage that inaction would bring to your blog! Good day!



P.s: I won't be suprised if your mod bans me and cleans this statement up too! Its allowed after all!