₦airaland Forum

Angelfrost:
Yes, you are right about such offenses being wrong and criminal... But, they are a civil matter.

They are not in the league of crimes like armed robbery, battery, or homicide.

Civil offenses are handled by courts... This means the petition should be filed with the court, a judge should SUMMON the offender (note the keyword), and he should be made to explain himself.

The judge can thereafter award fines against the offender.

Remember the case between the Falanas and VDM?!!

Why didn't they have him arrested, imprisoned and his fundamental rights trampled upon?!!

You only arrest the offender if he refuses to show up in court or obey a judge's summon.

You didn't sue someone for alleged defamation, but quickly got the police to arrest and dehumanise him... That doesn't make sense.

Unfortunately most of the arrest were not based on the civil cases of libel, but on the cyber crime Act as Amendments in 2024.
Once the allege defamation is posted online it becomes a cyber crime.
If our judiciary system is fixed and cases are decided promptly, victims can get justice. But where civil cases runs for 15years, victims are forced to seek justice somewhere else.
But more importantly is that bloggers should stop destroying others people. The victims deserve justice

gidgiddy:
Finland is not Nigeria, they don't arrest people for exercising the right to peaceful protest

You are creating content

MrDoGood:
You sue for defaming and not arrest. That's why they say this country is a zoo

Then amend the law and de-criminalize it. The victims deserve justice also

Angelfrost:
The laws state that the police should arrest, forcefully imprison and dehumanise individuals because of allegations or petitions leveled against them?!!

What exactly are you trying to justify here, please? Or you didn't quite grasp my post?!!

Abi you wish to pretend you don't know what these law enforcements do in the name of 'arrests' ?

I'm in no way justifying how our law enforcement is done, we should do better. I'm only highlighting the responsibility of citizens to know and understand the law of their country and stay out of harms way. If you comprehend that an act is criminal, you should become much careful how you conduct yourself.
But we must also recognize the impacts of falsehoods on the security of the victims. The victims are citizens that deserve the right to be protected

Kobojunkie:
The fomer has been amended and the amendment is what even your Police Force ought to be working with. So, again... huh?🙄🙄🙄🙄

My point is that the amendment is still porous. Note that I'm not in anyway justifying the abuse of process, but that it's important for citizens to know their laws

Kobojunkie:
The fomer has been amended and the amendment is what even your Police Force ought to be working with. So, again... huh?🙄🙄🙄🙄

The amendments hasn't cleaned those sections of, that's why Femi Falana and others are in the Supreme Court on the matter till now. It's on that basis that Burna Boy arrested Darlington
It's there huh

Kobojunkie:
huh?🙄🙄🙄

Ignorance is not an excuse. I think Nigerians needs to know their law. Most of the stuffs that people post online against others especially when they are false are criminalized given this Act

Kobojunkie:
What law? Post specifics!

Nigeria Cyber Crime Act Section 24(1)

Pythagoras001:
and so? so the police should be allowed to operate in gestapo manner? was he ever declared wanted? was he invited for questioning and he refused to appear? was it a murder or armed robbery case. it simply a case of defamation which in sane society the police should have no business with aggrieved person should simply go to court. impunity and lawlessness everywhere

Once that defamation is posted online, it has become a cyber crime and police can be invited. That's our law in Nigeria, be educated. It's not lawlessness.

Angelfrost:
I will never understand or grasp the concept or practice of police arresting and locking people up on account of petitions...!

How do we even normalise such an abnormal trampling of the fundamental rights of citizens?!!

The person is not a criminal, is not a flight risk, has no issues with the law... Why the use of oppressive tactics and force?!!

They even manhandle and dehumanise the individual.


Why can't a competent court or judge issue a summon to the individual petitioned and invited to appear in court?!!

Why the use of police force in a civil case?!!


Yet... When Kanu called this nation a zoo, you all reacted in misplaced righteous anger.

Then you are not conversant with the extant laws. The Cyber crime laws permit such and stipulated the punishment. It's a very serious issue.
The point here is that bloggers should stop defaming people. Once your online posting is false, then you have committed an offense.
By the way why do you think telling lies against someone else is fair?

Frigga13:
Mr Husseini argued that if passed into law, the bills would not benefit the Northern States.

He condemned the Senate’s decision to approve the bills, saying, “We view it as a deliberate effort to sabotage the economy, increase hardship and further impoverishing the region.”

Mr Husseini expressed concern over the proposed VAT allocation system, noting that states like Lagos, where major corporations such as Nigerian banks, telecommunications companies, and multinational companies were headquartered, would receive the largest share of the VAT.

“Lagos and its environs would account for 80 percent of the VAT collected in Nigeria, leaving northern states with a minimal share,” he said.

He warned that if allowed to scale through, the bill would further weaken northern states, potentially rendering some unable to pay salaries and worsening poverty and hardship.

Mr Husseini expressed concern over the proposed VAT allocation system, noting that states like Lagos, where major corporations such as Nigerian banks, telecommunications companies, and multinational companies were headquartered, would receive the largest share of the VAT.

“Lagos and its environs would account for 80 percent of the VAT collected in Nigeria, leaving northern states with a minimal share,” he said.

He warned that if allowed to scale through, the bill would further weaken northern states, potentially rendering some unable to pay salaries and worsening poverty and hardship.





Before you support this Tinubu Yoruba government fraud called tax reform..

What’s the investment in your state.. or will FDI .. now start rushing down to your states?

This is Tinubu personal agenda to permanently contro Lagos and Nigeria

Ohaneze wey never sight the 400 page bill rush go endorse..
atimes Igbos are their own problem
How will this benefit the entire eastern nation

Why do Igbos always allow Yoruba control their narratives and they come back wailing

God help Nigerians

Arewa to the world

Reality over propaganda

So you just rush to comment. I couldn't see the difference between you and the Aboki in Kano regurgitating falsehoods.
I am sure that you people do not have a single idea of what you are saying.
Exactly what you and your Kano brothers are saying is what the contentious section of the bill is correcting. The sharing of vat would no longer be based on where the headquarters of the companies are but where the goods and services are generated or consumed. Vat on your bank charges would no longer be recorded to have all being made in Lagos, but will be recorded to have emanated from whichever state the customer is based.
So what's the fuse about.

Hemanwel:
Can someone explain the contents of the bill to some of us who haven't stumbled on it?

This will enable me to make proper judgement for or against the bill.

Me, I dey do my cho cho cho with sense and conscience

Go and read

just2endowed:
9. Those earning less than N1.7m monthly will now pay less income tax is a lie. those earning 1m annualy as salary and above will be tax 15%

What's the current rate? About 21%. He's correct

The North claimed they have the population advantage, if VAT is to be based on point of consumption, then their population should give them an advantage over other regions. Are there other things I'm missing out?

Bwanasaraw:
I don't blame them. Doing business in Nigeria is no longer profitable/lucrative like before, sometimes you need full Hilux of police to guard your expatriates 24hrs. Even banks are complaining about price of diesel

But they sold in Tanzania and Uganda!

PepeXKermit:
What you should know is that they are leaving the nigerian market and now they have sold it to a chinese cement company who will also come with a construction company to try to get govt contracts to cover their overhead

What's your point. They sold in Tanzania and Uganda. The Chinese Company bought all these stakes and acquired Cement company in South Africa.
Nothing new, it's about reevaluating your portfolio for optimality

1bunne4lif:
I took my time to go through his previous posts, Lo and behold all negative stories are of the igbos. The hate is just too much, I think Nairaland is for hate speech against the east

And you haven't condemn your Igbo man ! That's the point

No NE and NC in the Top 10. You can understand why the North is shouting wolf.
But showing us the statistics without disclosing the methodology is woke. Stats like this are as good as it's methodology.

delpee:
Terrible era indeed! Glad that there's relative freedom today.

Some want the Military back. They don't know anything

Another round of ponzi scheme loaded. She too must cash out. Another EMILOKAN

What is NIWA doing about all these accidents. It's urgent for them to invoke and implement safety measures on River Niger

Cheryph200:
Na everyday una dey open new refinery with no impact on the masses ..God will deal with you all ..you all leasders will suffer in spirit and heaven

For spending their personal money. Somehow

Zonefree:
Lagos should attend to more important issues. Changing market name should be least of their problems.

Their market their problem. How does that concern you? If they like let them change names on daily basis

BigIyanga:
Keep dreaming without kobo. Power sector is the most regulated sector. You want to invest in tolled rds…You are clueless on govts work.. or you faiked govt 101. Ask Siri to define exclusive list for you.

Power sector is highly regulated, so what? Investors are expected to meet the requirements the way Otedola and Adeleke met it's requirements.You kept exposing your ignorance. Lagos - Ibadan Express Road, Ibadan - Ife Road, Ife - Ilesha were all once tolled. Road tolling is a worldwide model and not even new to Nigeria, or maybe you are too young to know.

BigIyanga:
Pointing out the obvious is talking ills.. who do una this this thing? Foreign investors know most of the ills in Naija.
Biggest Naijs investors are Naija in Diaspora. They know all thd problems in Naija.
Nigerians like Davido have the right to talk about Naija.

He has a right to talk and we retain our right to talk back at him, simple, why the pain

wickedclown:
Latest news today....
Please tell me again that Davido is wrong...

If we can do this to our fellow Nigerian, what are we going to do to foreign investors

Shouldn't certain things be fixed before we look to attract investors to Nigeria??

Bro, understand me, I'm in no way justifying our current situation in Nigeria, but I can't stand talking ills of Nigeria by foreigners not to talk of a citizen of the country especially someone who has immensely benefited from this country. He may insult the political leaders all he wants, but he must spare the country, Nigeria is bigger than all of them.
Gun violence in United States of America last year is over 40,000, have you heard any American talk about this, so many homeless people in the US, have you heard 50cent come to Nigeria to diss his country.NO.
My point is that our fight is with ourselves, it's not for him to go to foreign country to demarket us. He's hurting us all.

BigIyanga:
Copy and paste master. Tony made and still $$ from financial. His 1st money love $$ =bank. Otedolar made his $$ from Zenon.. then to Forte to Geregu. Zenon $$ made geregu.

Now you are coming home. Welcome.
So you can see now the opportunities in the power sector and my point. Maybe you can also confirm by yourself that Tony is also into power generation just like Davido's father.

BigIyanga:
Not true. Tony Elumelu made his $$ from bankinv and financial services. Otedolar made his $$ from oil and gas. You’re really a Dundee daftie😂😂

Now I know you know nothing and no point arguing with you. You can check for Tony portfolio in Energy sector

ikdaddy01:
... so it is true. They are blending this and that .
Sahara report brought this one to us.
Now they say it's a practice everywhere. When first heard blending from Dangote and the other cannibals with blending Plants in Malta

Now they brought blending home.

BigIyanga:
Invest with mouth. In Energy sector, how? ??
Tolled road? You are quite a Dundee when it comes to Naija issues 😂😂

Thank you Mr Manchester on Nigeria issues. He asked a question and I answered. What's your issue there? Which one did you not understand?
Otedola and Tony Elumelu are Nigeria billionaires who made their fortune thanks largely to their investment in Energy sector, same with Davido's father