₦airaland Forum

Zocalite:
Everyone that's not singing and licking tinubu

Everyone is obi fan

And talking because he supports obi

You people need deliverance

I never needed deliverance from the myopia many if you suffer......if you attempt issues objectively you would see things more clearly and would be able to not get disappointed in the future as obidients always do.

Kukutente23:
Investors do not need your forex. They are actually bringing forex into the system. More liquidity for the govt does not indicate more FDI. FDI is primarily private sector driven.
While expansion in govt activities can lead to GDP growth, you need to understand that what drives FDI is basically local demand and purchasing power. Nigeria has local demand in terms of population but the trouble is the purchasing pwoer has plummeted over the years as the naira was devalued.
I asked you for evidence because TOTAL just invested $6bn in Angola last year. If that had come to Nigeria, you won't be telling this story but will be touting that as one of the successes of this govt

How do you expand the economy without govt spending.....most govts often have to spend their way out if recession.....civil servants get paid, contractors get paid thus creating employment,increased investment in social welfare such as hand outs and grants and many more ways govt can expand money supply but you need the production to match it to avoid inflation.

Forex liquidity is am important factor in FDI attraction,how do you want investors to retrieve and relocate invested capital,this was a major problem that caused low FDI in the Buhari years.

Nigeria had a large population but very low on per capita....we need to increase capacity and get money flowing in the economy and we are just about decontracting the recession we have suffered majorly during the Buhari years and this is majorly as a result of the under utilised economic potentials we have failed to harness which this govt is trying it's best to open up.

Nigeria alone got about $8 b in oil and gas investments in the last year and it's seeking to become the oil and gas hub in Africa,this is huge as it portends huge potential for the economy.

Penguin2:
In all of your permutations, you didn’t factor in the hunger in the land and the general disenchantment with Tinubu.

Oh! That doesn’t matter abi?

And hey, Obi’s political stock hasn’t changed one bit.

There has always been hunger in the land.....Buhari won 2nd term with hunger and insecurity pervading the land.....votes are even easier to buy now than it was in 2015.....forget all the obidients noise in the urban centers,the real magic happens in the rural far to reach areas,how would obidients counter vote buying and under age voting in far away Katsina or Kano or deep in cross rivers jungles.

Nigerian politics is still majorly driven by the elites and they always have a say over the masses that does the voting......APC was able to proof that with Buhari in 2015 and tinubu had the majority elite consensus in 23.

Zocalite:
Tribalism is what they throw to people like you to chew so they can use you again

So every yoruba person must support tinubu Abi and likewise for other tribr

You are a jesters

The problem with you obidients is your penchant for disregarding the obvious just cause it doesn't suit your narrative...then peddle insults

DeepSight:
How do you now things would have been worse. The problem with the subsidy regime was not the subsidy itself but the governmental corruption in the management of it. That is what should have been rooted out.

How? Something 5 successive govts were unable to do...the best thing was to end it and stop the sleaze.... almighty America hasn't been able to stop narcotics snuggling despite fighting it for several decades....how do you want to stop people especially Nigerians not to steal.

Kukutente23:
What is the impact of highest crude price on FDI? Do you know what FDI means?
Can you show with verifiable facts that there is dwindling investment in oil sector all over the world?
What is the cause of the divestment? Why is it happening under your APC?
Lol. Tax reform will double GDP. I really don't know what shite you guys are smoking. But it is darn strong

High crude prices mean more liquidity for the govt and more Forex for the markets,investors find that very attractive.

If govts make more monies from tax reforms,it makes them more liquid and this leads to an expansion in the economy through more govt spending this would affect GDP growth.

You can argue all you can go check oil and gas investments in the last decade and compare to 2 decades before....you would see the difference.

AMINDA:
Beyond the smiley, all I see is palpable fear. The only remaining base of Tinubu will be half of the Southwest. A Tsunami is coming!

Mention one prominent SW politician you have seen in their coalition talks.....no Yoruba man at this time would leave tinubu to vote obi or atiku just as no igbo would leave obi....tribalism would also be a factor,you must reckon that and the Yoruba votes is quite sizeable compared to Igbos....atiku also has his NE and tinubu would still bite deeply into that as he did in 2023.. obi won't be much of a factor outside the SE except maybe Abuja and some states in SS but can't be same as 2023.hre would still have the govs,Wike, akpabio and militants to contend with.

Who come remain for pdp? See ikimi with him big belle,baba werey still dey....the eagle of igueben...highly sophisticated man....Sam egwu,madam anenih,Ben obi were all at the pdp nec yesterday.

This is the best time for obi to move back to pdp.....obi bala Mohamed ticke t would fly...PDP would give obi what lo could not.

naptu2:
Is that Lateef Fagbemi? I wasn't sure because of the side profile.

Not fagbemi,it's the guy from Kano....I will need to look up his mane and portfolio....fagbemi was sitting with the FG delegation with badaru Ind info minister.

Kukutente23:
Before covid nko?
APC and excuses
Una no dey tire
Global financial crisis happened under PDP and we didn't hear all these stories

GEJ has the highest crude oil prices in the history of Nigeria ...there is dwindling investment in oil the world over and thus wasn't the case pre 2015,most oil majors are already divesting off shore assets....you really need to put all these in context and would be wrong not to consider them.

Tax reform,local refining,financial sector expansion and agricultural development which state govs aren't tapping into can double our GDP in the next 3 to 4 years.

Tinubu haters,you can see ganduje with his signature tinubu cap and you can see Kabir yusf the gov if Kano state with a minister in this APC govt....surprised kwakwanso isn't there... If tinubu can get ganduje and RMK to work together,he is already halfway to 2027.thats over a million votes in the bag.

DeepSight:
What is wrong with simply looking at the GDP in 2015 and the GDP now.
And commodity prices in 2015 and commodity prices now?

.you need to look at the cause factor for the inflation,do you expect something different after naira devaluation and subsidy removal?

Out GDP is just being rebased due to the naira devaluation and our growth outlook is about
3% which is still our average since 99.

Things would have been a lot worse if we were still paying subsidies and defending the naira.....tinubu has set a goal of $1 trillion GDP and that's a really bold and ambitious plan.... We can but gradually

Kukutente23:
So why didn't Fintech drive FDI under APC even with all the venture capital inflows
What about banks capitalisation under OBJ? That did not drive FDI according to you abi?
How old were you then?

There is a slow growth ccum recession world wide since COVID. There has been near stagnation in economic growth even in the west,the US economy is also suffering negative growth as we speak,it's a global phenomenon

You can only help your self right now by building home grown wealth by opening up untapped wealth and opportunities and this govt is doing big on that ... Local refining, fintech, agriculture is another area we need to massively grow in this country.

Kukutente23:
Oya na
It has been proven over and over again that APC is a massive, unmitigated failure and disaster regardless of who holds power
The party was built to punish Nigerians

Ask for the stats on foreign reserves
Debt to revenue ratio
Oil out put
Trade surpluses versus deficits

Then we can talk.

Then we can talk

dalongjnr:
Once he dropped shetima,his base in NE is gone.
In NC =only kogi is sure for him,that's if he reconcile with yahaya bello.
Nasarawa can tilt to pdp or adc.
Plateau can vote tinubu if he chose to work with the present governor,if not, he may not get 25%.
Kwara is a very difficult one him.
The governor is not his person and the former governors are still strong and influential and not with him.
Benue is hard to call 35% for him considering how he handle the banditry issues there. People are now having the perception that's jihad that's going on in the state.
Niger state use to be APC stronghold due to bubari's influence but that's no longer there.
Abuja can till to tinubu due to wike's infrastructure drive but if he doesn't handle the issues of civil servants and land allocation/demolition well, he may not get 50%.

Shetima's influence is only im borno,he couldn't even win neighbouring yobe and ribadu can neutralise what ever influence he has in Adamawa...NE is atiku's base and he still has it...tinubu can only attempt to come as close as possible on the ballot but tinubu can hold his own in the NW with the support of the govs as they did in 2023,he will still get huge votes from NW,might not win all but would definitely get more than jigawa he got in the last election,if he can still get ganduje and kwakwanso to his side Kano is done and dusted,Sokoto is guaranteed,kebbi,zamfara,naduna and Katsina can go either way but the margin if he looses can't be more than 10-15%

No Yoruba would leave tinubu for atiku or obi when a Yoruba man is president and he has all the state govs with him.

SS is the battle ground and he will surely get more votes than he did in 2023 and only obi would be his head ache there if he decides to run and not atiku,amaechi is only a noise maker.....obi would not have it funny in his region if he decides to go with atiku as some realignment would be inevitable except he decides to run alone,he should only pray MNK isn't released to come continue is Biafra agitation and trust me that can easily be an ace tinubu would want to use to counter him and they both can't work together and he is equally has popular as obi over there all he needs do is call for election boycott and Obi's votes would be up in smoke.

Penguin2:
Kwankwaso is more popular than Shettima by far!

And Kwankwaso’s state alone can almost cancel out what opposition candidate can muster in the entire Northeast (Shettima’s zone).

But the big question is, will Kano voters vote for a Tinubu/Kwankwaso ticket just because Kwankwaso defected to APC? Are Kano voters that daft? I guess not.

It’s like expecting Ndi Anambra or Southeast to vote for Tinubu because Peter Obi defected to APC. Because as popular as Peter Obi is, one wrong step will kill all of his popularity in the entire Southeast in 24hrs.

But maybe it’s not like that in Kano. Maybe Kano people are easily led by their noses and told where to thumbprint.

But all this simply betrays one thing - that Tinubu is scared to his pampers. While his supporters litter here saying things to excite themselves, Tinubu knows that the reality on ground says something different.

In 2027, those defecting to APC won’t attract much votes to Tinubu; especially in the Southsouth. You would be daft to think Tinubu will win Delta because the governor defected.

You have political heavy weights in the north and kwakwanso can be at oar with atiku if he were in a party like pdp but he still did great with is small Nnpp...it's funny how obidients think obi would get more votes than he did in 2023.... What you guys always forget is that the dynamics would be different in 2027 and so many factors would come to bear.

Power of incumbency,money and ability to galvanise support across class and ethnic lines,religion and tribalism....tinubu would still have far more appeal to any northerner than obi anytime anyday just for being Muslim and he would have far more support in his region than he did in 2023.....the battle ground are the swing states like Parts of NC and SS and many of this places especially the SS many factors that worked against the APC in 2923 won't be there In 2027.....it's obvious 2027 won't be a 2 horse race and that would work greatly in Tinubu's favour, everyone would hold their regions tight and any where your opponent is winning just try to keep the margin as tight as possible,that was how tinubu was able to beat atiku because states atiku won,he came second with very narrow margin, Katsina was just about 5k difference and even 4k in other places

It's same way obi wou6also loose votes if he decides to work with atiku rather than going it alone.... The opposition have a bigger dilemma because tinubu already knows his weaknesses and is already doing everything to work on that

madridguy:
Since Uganda people likes his government so who are you to use paracetamol for their headache?

And Nigerians complain about their country being the worst on earth.

Rexymania:
With everything playing out, I don't think the coalition can win the next general election. Na who dem won bring? Maybe

Mazi Nnamdi from the south
&
Bumi from the North

Then
Adeyemi
Aregbeshola
OBJ

Should mobilize the Yorubas in the west
And some Yoruba actress

MNK is an anathema to Obi's ambition,they can never align....that's Tinubu's joker for the east....he will be released and allow to continue his Biafra agitation though in a non violent manner and that will be against the ambition of any SEtener wanting to be president if Nigeria.

Lanretoye:
He don Dey use him gbajue antics for the coalition,he will disorganize the party like LP and run again.you people should grow up and stop all this irrelevant hype,wetin concern Tinubu with Obi,in all ramification Obi can not stand tinubu

Even obi knows that and his brothers in the east line the govs and other politicians are all ready for him because their positions are all under threath.

Penguin2:
You wish!

We know you want the coalition to fail so your Tinubu can stand a chance.

But the coalition will work and you won’t see them coming.

I don't see it working,who would be the frontline candidate.....the north won't want another southerner after tinubu and majority would rather he does his remaining 4 years after 2027 and leave than play naijabet with another southerner.....no southerner would want another northerner just 4 years after the Buhari disaster.....tinubu has all the odds in his favour.

Judolisco:
Mob Don threaten am overnight... U must run for bola to win

Exactly what tinubu wanted... But it's sure he isn't getting same amount of votes as he got the last time even from his SR

Fekumzi123:
Oga, from the picture above, it was shared just that Wike's own is bigger. And I believe it's same scenario because if Fubara is not getting anything he wouldn't have agreed.

Fubara kept his weapon on the right while holding the spoon but wikke kept his where he can easily grab it to continue....that's some deep stuff.

TooMuchStuff:
Still waiting for the new chairman to come out from the North central precisely Plateau state

Nassarawa....tanko al Makita will be the next chairman from NC.

spiSeyi:
Oh! I see like how money saved from subsidy was used to build audio refinery (PH refinery that didn't even drop a pint of oyel) . The unification of exchange rate that has brought Naira to all time low and as we speak the Naira is the lowest currency in West Africa. CFA is even more acceptable than Naira, take it or leave it you sound and look more stupid the harder you tried to defend this failed government . 60% increase in FX yet Nigeria is still among in top 10 in the world and for the first time in history Nigeria inflation rate is in double digits, guess what your propaganda doesn't hold water bcs the rot APC regime has caused can be seen with the eyes (ebi pa wa everywhere you go)

The funny thing is that all of you major antagonists of tinubu are pedestrian in logic,ignorant and copiously arrogant at Ur lack of proper understanding of the very thing you are always quick to attack

What savings are you talking about...you were borrowing monies to pay for same subsidies you are here crying about.....you no longer aren't doing that because subsidy has been removed,now are you saying keep borrowing to save or what?

The naira has only found it's true value at its current rate as against the artificial rate you have been used to which was counter productive in the first place,past govts were defending the naira heavily by paying subsidy for each dollar you spend so as to give you a superficial sense of having a strong currency when I'm truth it's not....what tinubu just did was to discourage importation and make Nigeria goods cheaper to export....do you know how many people are now buying clothes,farm produce,and other items from abroad because it's cheaper due to a weaker naira,I am in the freight business so I know what I am talking about.

The CFA if you don't know is strongly tied to the french economy and backed by the euro,how then do you expect the Maura to compete with that with our poor output.

You need to have a proper understanding of economic matters and governance before you brazenly come display your obvious ignorance with your infantile attempt in trying to discredit this govt.

Ofunaofu:
Col Abubakar Dangiwa Umar, (RTD) spoke like a true Patriot

The man has always been and still is a wacko.....so anti establishment,SE as he fimish akpabio!! Short of calling him a jester at court.

spiSeyi:
Name one thing that APC has done successfully in 10yrs of reign

In 2 years:

Ended the sham subsidy regime which mo govt could before now,not even obj.

Foreign exchange unification which was a huge drain on our economy.

Improved productivity in the oil and gas sector -increased output
-local refining capacity
-energy efficiency

Reduced debt to revenue ratio-debt servicing to revenue has gone down from over 90% to around 60%

Improved Forex liquidity

Macro economic stability

This and many more!!
Social and economic development isn't all about rice and beans for the common man,it's far more than that.

Exousiang01:
I have a feeling that Adeleke may be dancing his way to APC from the look of things

Funny thing is it was same aregbe that drove adelekes to pdp when he denied them the senatorial ticket their brother lost when he died,late sen isiaka adekeke......now same aregbe is the one famzing the same adelekes to antagonise tinubu

SisterAnn:
Hmmm..

@kwankwaso vs buhari and the north, you just showed the world how it should be done Oga/madam.

See what they did to osinbajo? Chai!

Kwakwanso dared not go against Buhari from same region,only atiku could and he is from NE.... Osinbajo was a cat thinking itself a lion,a man with zero political structure even in his ikenne LG wanting to overtake his boss who made him and even chose him to be vp,that was what killed his career .. tinubu is the undisputed political leader of the yorubas,God made him so and it would be in your best interests not to go against who God has allowed to be there .....even the opposition accepts his invisibility.

AMINDA:
There they go again bandying the word "Betrayal" with reckless abandon. Anyone who chooses to go against the grain and away from stiffling godfatherism is quickly labelled a betrayer. This politics of subservience and baba sope will be the end of the SW. If Northerners had labelled Kwankwaso a betrayer for charting his own course away from Buhari, would Tinubu be looking up to him today to save him from impending defeat at the polls?

In Yoruba tradition there is always reverence to leadership same as most core northerners... .Yoruba lost out in the earlier republics just because of this same lack of cohesion and unity....if akintola hadn't gone against awo his leader,the Yoruba story would have been a lot different... SE and the north at the time were all majorly lined up behind there leaders,zik and sardauna respectively. ....the yorubas have learnt from this and have now decided to harmonise their differences which is a positive thing for the region

Tbanjtech:
Ok let me educate you a lil....
Over 70% of those Tinubu boys that he made governors of diff state fought him during or after their tenure. Why's that so?
Could it be over monopolistic nature of BAT, his greed or sit tight syndrome by imposing who he wants(this enables him to still be in control under shadow).
To me, I can't judge Aregbesola, it's after the demise of these prominent people we gon' understand what really happened fr... Lol🤣

Fashola,ambode,samwoolu,dapo,amosun,ladoja,aka before he died,makinde,ladoja,Daniel,osoba,akande,oyetola,akeredolu,oyebanji,fayemi,adebayo and even fayose are still together with jagaban,if aregbe decides to ba a rascal it's his problem and let him stew in his own juice..... Differences is allowed in politics that's why it's a democracy but it's the dog that wants to get lost that won't hear the whistle of the hunter.. even jesus still had Judas.

spiSeyi:
What is the one saying we are talking about social and economic development you are spewing thrash.. if you can't comprehend you scroll on it's not by force to reply every comment

Social and economic development like you even know what that is?

spiSeyi:
What a shame! And evidence of failure should we be discussing 2027 election in 2025 . This shows that our politicians are inemplty selfish democratic form of government doesn't fit us as a nation. We need to design our own form of government with a new constitution or let conduct a referendum for independent republics.
Rotational form of government will solve this nonsense with a single 5yr term for all the political office holders.
APC has woefuly failed to the extent that we can't point out one successful thing they have done in 10yrs, any win for APC in 2027 might be the end of Nigeria

If its your choice to be blind and deaf to progress,it's no one's fault,if the APC can keep holding themselves together and growing from strength to strength while yours can't....it's their pronlem not anyone else....you can continue to dwell in hate,that's Ur problem