TroGunn: Accroding to the Bible, God is not a Trinity. Neither the doctrine nor idea exists in the Bible. The idea developed after the death of Christ and the Apostles.

Genesis 1:26 And GodH430 said,H559 Let us makeH6213 manH120 in our image,H6754 after our likeness:H1823 and let them have dominionH7287 over the fishH1710 of the sea,H3220 and over the fowlH5775 of the air,H8064 and over the cattle,H929 and over allH3605 the earth,H776 and over everyH3605 creeping thingH7431 that creepethH7430 uponH5921 the earth.H776
H430
אלהים
'ĕlôhı̂ym
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
Genesis 1:27 So GodH430 createdH1254 (H853) manH120 in his own image,H6754 in the imageH6754 of GodH430 createdH1254 he him; maleH2145 and femaleH5347 createdH1254 he them.

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen

John 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Notice Jesus did not rebuke Thomas for referring to Him as God.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the[b] Word was with God, and the Word was God[/b].
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
John 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

1 John 1:1[b] That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
1 John 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us[/b]
1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
Revelation 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with[b] the glory which I had with thee before the world was.[/b]

The pre-incarnate Jesus:
Joshua 5:13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?
Joshua 5:14 And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?
Joshua 5:15 And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.

Notice that Joshua was not stopped from worshipping the "Captain of the LORD"S host" by Him, because He was God. Worship of angels were forbidden and angels rebuked anyone from worshipping them, so this "Captain of the LORD"S host" could not have been an angel.
Colossians 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind
Revelation 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
Revelation 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God

Hebrews 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Hebrews 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Just a little more "external input" - This is what Jesus had to say about the founder of Jehovah's witnesses' Charles T Russell, in a divine revelation of heaven and hell that an Evangelist from Dominican republic (Rodolfo Acevedo Hernandez) says he had: "“Rodolfo, for that cursed man, all these souls are entering into hell. This man taught that God was only a God of love. The Bible says that God is a consuming fire. This man Charles Russell took the word hell from the Bible and he took out all the words sheol and Abaddon. Also, he denied the deity of Jesus Christ and also denied the deity of the Holy Spirit and he put only the Word Jehovah in the Bible. He took out Jesus and the Holy Spirit. For this cursed man, all these souls are falling into hell.” (Rev 22:18-19).

Then the Lord said: “I curse that man” Link: http://christiscoming777./2012/07/25/testimony-of-heaven-hell-the-condition-of-todays-church-by-rodolfo-acevedo/
Read through his account and see if what he says aligns with scripture or not, afterall, the bible in 1 Corinthians 2: 15 AMP says "But the spiritual man tries all things [he examines, investigates, inquires into, questions, and discerns al things], yet is himself to be put on trial and judged by no one [he can read the meaning of everything, but no one can properly discern or appraise or get insight into him]" and sincerely ask God to help you see HIS truth, not some man's opinion or what[b] you [/b]think the bible should say! Eph 1:16 Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
Eph 1:18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
Eph 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
Eph 1:20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
Eph 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
Eph 1:22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
Eph 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

People never fail to amuse me. Nigerians can be so gullible, sad but true. We tend to believe everything we read online without bothering to check out proof. I came across this story on Facebook and hissed. How do we all know if it's true? Being published does not necessarily mean it's true. We're so quick to throw insults, smh. Self-righteous much? What if this "Alhaja" comes out with a story tomorrow and denies this? Would you claim she's been bribed to do so? Do you all know how many siblings he has, or if he has any sisters at all? And spare me that "there's an iota of truth in any rumour" bla bla...tell that the victims of blackmail. Fabrication of stories is a trick of the press worldwide...bad news sells....many people get bad belle seriously...
Didn't bother going through all the replies but hopefully, there are people that have been sensible enough not to jump into conclusions and insults. We're all entitled to our opinion sha.

goshen360:

Okay, Frist, le'me apoligize that I jumped to conclusion that you didn't know the Abraham tithe was taken to the levitical law. Sorry about that.

Second, you agreed that the account of Hebrews changed the Abraham tithe that was carried to the levitical tithing and you later came back that it doesn't change the fact that Jesus APPROVED TITHING BY SAYING THIS OUGHT TO HAVE DONE AND NOT NEGLECT THE OTHER, Matt 23:23. I have a good news for you as i perceive you have a heart to learn the truth, if only you will follow the truth. Now I give you another assignment to read the whole of Matthew 23 in context. But to help you ma, In verse 23, Jesus was talking to the scribes and Pharisees and DID NOT APPROVE TITHE BUT IT WAS WOE. If you don't think so, then verse 3 of matthew 23 gives you the answer where Jesus SPECIFICALLY TOLD HIS DISCIPLES NOT TO DO ACCORDING TO THE WORKS OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES. v1-3 of matthew 23. This is the reason the Apostles that are disciples of Jesus cannot teach the early christians tithing.

Third, you talked about the anointing oil. I will not jump to conclusion about your knowledge on anointing oil at this time but permit me to "guess". The way Holy Spirit is received in the NT is not when oil is poured on believers. Do you study well again ma. In addition, see my response below:



God bless you ma, Ijila

I've said enough about this issue to be honest and have taken on board what you said, but i don't agree with you and would leave it at that. 1 Cor 13 - I see tithing as an act of love to God in appreciation of what He's blessed me with. I'm a student and i've seen how He's shown up for me in my time of need.
Matthew 5: 20 "For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven." I think Jesus meant by this scripture that they should do what the scribes do cos they followed the law albeit religiously i.e no love or compassion for those in need that Jesus wants us to exhibit Ref:the law of Corban.
I never made reference to the Holy Spirit's outpouring in the NT being the result of oil or not,i've read enough of the gospels and Acts to know that . I said some acts were initiated by men that God approved and adopted eg tithing and anointing with oil.

Thanks for your perspective. Keep pursuing God in the walk and may you complete the race and get the crown in Jesus name,amen. God bless you too xx

goshen360:

Are you also aware it is this Abraham tithe that was transferred into the Leviticus tithes for the levites that was abolished by the priesthood of Christ and priesthood of believers? Obviously you don't know. Heb chapter 7 gives you the answers. Pls go study it and come back with what you understand ma. Thank you ma, God bless you ma.

Hiya,yes i am aware as i read Hebrews 7:4-9 yesterday, so you are VERY WRONG IN SAYING I DON'T KNOW. Don't make conclusions on what you're not certain of ok, admit your limitations.
The scripture in Hebrews doesn't change the fact that Jesus approved tithing by saying "this you ought to have done but not neglecting the others." Whether Abraham's tithes was converted to the Levitical tithes is not the matter, it still stands that tithing preceded the law. There are things that were initiated by men that God adopted and approved. E.g 1 -Tithing was initiated by Abraham as far as biblical records are concerned.
E.g 2 -Anointing with oil: Jacob initiated anointing with oil in the bible in Gen 28:18, and God showed His approval of that in 1 Samuel 16:1,12-13 by commanding Samuel to anoint David as king.
Each according to the measure of faith God has given him. The OP said she'll feel guilty if she doesn't pay the tithe and you're encouraging her to make that decision. Don't make her stumble on what she thinks is right and the choice is still hers by the way. It seems you're trying to enforce your opinions on everyone. Not everyone's gonna agree with you, that's life. If you read my entire post, i gave my view and what i think i'll do in such a scenario, and left the matter there. You may wanna adopt that approach sometimes. God bless you too Goshen360

@ OP - This is what the NLT life application study bible says regarding Romans 14:23 "We try to steer clear of actions forbidden by Scripture, of course, but sometimes Scripture is silent. Then we should follow our consciences. "If you do anything you believe is not right, you are sinning" means that to go against a conviction will leave a person with a guilty or uneasy conscience. When God shows us that something is wrong for us, we should avoid it. But we should not look down on other Christians who exercise their freedom in those areas"
The decision is entirely yours to make hun

moi2: My dear give to your brother in need.
Matt. 23:23 Woe to you, scribes [teachers of the law: NIV] and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law -- judgment, mercy, and faith; these you ought to have done, without leaving the other undone.

Luke 11:42 But woe to you, Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God; these you ought to have done, without leaving the other undone.


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1. In the context of Luke 11:41 true cleanliness of the conscience is achieved through freewill giving to the poor as compared to mandated giving of the law.


Luke 11:41 But rather give alms [charity: NAS; to the poor: NIV] of such things as you have, and, behold, all things are clean to you.

I believe the highlighted shows Jesus approving of tithing. Besides, tithing came before the law as Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek Gen 14: 20
Spirit-filled Christians know that God sometimes leads us through our consciences. I don't know if your are Spirit-filled or not or if you are a christian, but you say your conscience won't let you rest if you don't pay the tithe, why? You have to search your heart and honestly answer yourself.

But the part after the highlighted phrase talks about mercy which you must have on your brother.
If i was in your shoes, i'll pay the tithe and even if it means dipping into my last savings, or denying myself of some urgent pleasures (e.gfixing weaves, nails, eating out bla bla) to help my brother, i would. This way "i" won't feel guilty of robbing God or denying my brother. But if you don't have savings, the example i gave approach doesn't really apply to you,does it?
I personally will honour God in paying my tithe OUT OF MY LOVE FOR HIM NOT and have faith he'll provide for the brother. God honours His word innit? Except if you don't have faith! Who knows, maybe after you pay your tithe, someone who's held you money for years would pay you back..or you might get a surprise package at work...or your bank account will be credited with money for contract you executed but were delayed payment... i don't know...i've experienced the rebuing of the devourer for my sake many times, literally....WAHT I'M CERTAIN OF IS THAT GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS!

I see many responses talk about not giving the money to Pastor who doesn't need it bla bla...that says it all really cos if you think you're tithing to Pastor, that's all the reward you're gonna get. That being said, i'm not ignoring the fact that many Pastors misappropriate the funds and will receive judgement one day (Gal 5:7 God is not mocked, a man reaps what he sows!) whether on earth or in hell, except if God is a liar and i know He isn't.

The ball is in your court dearie, what you gonna do? May God guide you in Jesus name,amen.

Happy belated birthday
I can understnad you;re hurt but you need to get over it
My teenage cousin forgot her birthday once. I called some days later to wish her a happy birthday and discovered she forgot, cos she was with her very ill mother who passed away days later . I'm sure she'll give anything to have her mum around, what more forget her birthday and call to apologise profusely afterwards.
Don't mean to be harsh but you need to put things in perspective

@ Sweetnecta howdy?  You said "My proofs are the fact that John didnt say he was not christ "
John 1:20 And he confessed and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.”  
You said" Jesus himself and John disagreed on if John was Elijah. John being the greatest prophet born of woman, according to Jesus says he is not Elijah. Jesus made the claim of being Elijah for John, as well as the greatest Jewish Prophet born of woman, surpassing Moses who the OT said no prophet as great as him was ever raised for Israel."[/color]
This is my opinion of it: How will John say he is Elijah when he didn't know himself? 1 Samuel 16:7  But the LORD said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. [color=#770077]The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.” It would be egotistical and pride for John to claim to the Jews that He was Elijah, and pride would be inconsistent with John's character as described in the bible. John probably felt unworthy that someone like him would be thought as similar to a great prophet in the OT, and the Jews might think it's heresy for him to say that
There are lots of similarities between John and Elijah which i believe was why Jesus said John was an Elijah. These are Jesus' exact words
Mathew 17:9 As they were coming down from the mountain, Jesus commanded them, saying, “Tell the vision to no one until the Son of Man has risen from the dead.” 10And His disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?” 11And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things; 12but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” 13Then the disciples understood that He had spoken to them about John the Baptist. 
You said "can anyone trust what Jesus of the Bibles say or believe he said all the things the Bibles claim for him if Jesus was to be believed as honest?"Yet you use this same Jesus' claim against Christians to allude that the comforter Jesus talked about is Mohammed This is what Jesus said about the comforter
John 14:    16“I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; 17that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.

      18“I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19“After a little while the world will no longer see Me, but you will see Me; because I live, you will live also. 20“In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. 21“He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.” 22Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, “Lord, what then has happened that You are going to disclose Yourself to us and not to the world?” 23Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. 24“He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father’s who sent Me.

      25“These things I have spoken to you while abiding with you. 26“But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you. 27“Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Do not let your heart be troubled, nor let it be fearful.[/color]

You said "Jesus said that the another comforter shall remind people of the truth that Jesus said. The truth has to be without the lies. The lies have to be corrected anyways. How did the holy spirit that didnt correct can remind anyone of the truth that Jesus said and came with? Did the holy spirit which the christians say is less than Jesus not have a physical body and no voice, but the mighty Jesus that has seniority over it had a body and had to speak up so that people can hear him? How did the bodiless and voiceless holy spirit speak to humans and succeeded in it, while Jesus its senior had to come like human and voice like human was compelled to actually be functioning like human and yet still left the ultimate duty and success to Another Comforter to fulfill? If the disciples failed and must be corrected by something should it not be something tangible with body and voice that their initial teacher, Jesus?"
You are the one judging that what Jesus said is lies, after using what he said about a comforter to claim the genuineness of Mohammed as a prophet Jesus predicted and that the Holy Spirit cannot correct lies? The Holy Spirit doesn't need to correct what we knoe to be the truth. You claiming it's lies is your opinon, totally your opinion,.
Where is the claim from that Christiains say the Holy Spirit is less than Jesus? You know how muslims say terorrists misqoute the quran in the killing of the infidels and that Islam is a religion of peace bla bla bla, implying there are some muslims that misunderstand your quran, can't it be said as well that there might be Christians that made a similar error in saying the Holy Spirit is less than Jesus, if your claim as any iota of truth in it?
Have you heard of such a thing as conscience before, maybe an increase in your heart rate when you know yuo've done something wrong? Conscience is voiceless innit but helps keep people in check, for those that have it? Is it tangible? no. Can you deny it? No
The Holy Spirit may not be tangible to yuo but that doesn't deny his existence!
Jesus didnt leave an ultimate duty to someone else, He did His job and said the comforter will be sent to help the disciples and subsequesntly all christians. Think about two people in love, it's natural to want to hear "i love you" from his/her partner every now and again for reassurance. Christians are supposed to know the truth of God's word from reading the bible and in situations where they might be tempted to compromse, the Holy Spirit can remind them of the word by speaking through the conscience of whatever method He deems fit! And who said the Holy Spirit is voiceless?? Acts 13:2While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them."
Voice at Paul's conversion was Jesus himself appearing to Paul  Acts 9:5 And he said, “Who are You, Lord?” And He said, “I am Jesus whom you are persecuting, 6but get up and enter the city, and it will be told you what you must do.” 7The men who traveled with him stood speechless, hearing the voice but seeing no one. 8Saul got up from the ground, and though his eyes were open, he could see nothing; and leading him by the hand, they brought him into Damascus. 9And he was three days without sight, and neither ate nor drank.

      10Now there was a disciple at Damascus named Ananias; and the Lord said to him in a vision, “Ananias.” And he said, “Here I am, Lord.” 11And the Lord said to him, “Get up and go to the street called Straight, and inquire at the house of Judas for a man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying, 12and he has seen in a vision a man named Ananias come in and lay his hands on him, so that he might regain his sight.” 13But Ananias answered, “Lord, I have heard from many about this man, how much harm he did to Your saints at Jerusalem; 14and here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call on Your name.” 15But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen instrument of Mine, to bear My name before the Gentiles and kings and the sons of Israel; 16for I will show him how much he must suffer for My name’s sake.” 17So Ananias departed and entered the house, and after laying his hands on him said, “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road by which you were coming, has sent me so that you may regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit.”
The bible doesnt say the Holy Spirit is a dove but descended in bodily form like a dove Luke 3:22 and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: "You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased."
By the way, God is allowed to do what He please, He can take whatever form He wants to and is answerable to no man. I can decide to be quiet today and the noisemaker i am tomorrow, depends on my mood, notwistanding what others think.
You said"whats there to read except filth and lies you cant even proof?" Can't be said about you, can't it Sweetnecta?
My basic point is you can argue all you wwant about the genuineness of Christianity or not, but don't pick somethings Jesus said to support your claim and refute other things because that nullifies your argument. Be consistent at least
And we'll find out on judgement day won't we? You saying "We know that your God is false when he was 1 before he became 3, or it is definitely you and you and you and you who are false." makes me shake my head but i pray the scales over your eyes are lifted. As much as i disagree with your religion, i haven't made derogatory remarks in any way, and i ask that you please show some respect to my faith by not resovling to cheap insults as it doesn't help your case, but makes you look silly and desperate tbh.
Now, off to my coursework after some detour 

Rastamann:

Some of the pondering questions that comes to my mind includes”

Is it possible to violation a woman without the woman resisting and shouting especially in a hospital environment that always have people around?

Why did no one in the hospital see the woman harassed when she came out and why did the woman not make an initial complain to those around or in the front desk before taking a bus to Hartford Hospital and made the complaint?
I sense that there might have been a consensual sex between them and the woman is now using it to get back to the guy.

Whichever way, we should all be careful in our dealings with the opposite sex especially when we live and work in some countries like the USA.

My brother that was the first thing i thought oo. Surely there are CCTVs laden everywhere that could at least show the bruises when she was exiting the doctor's office Thing is with cases like rape, the victims are always protected (understandably except when they are blatant liars  ) and alleged offenders are treated as guilty until proven innocent. Well, hope the truth comes out sha. May God help her recover and move on if she was a victim. May God help him clear his name and get his license back if innocent.
Hmmnn, very true oo

As christians i.e. followers of Jesus Christ, i believe what we do should tally with what Christ did and He walked in love. There's no compulsion in love i believe. As many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. If you are not sure about a doctrine, ask the Holy Spirit for clearance and direction and He'll give it to you. That's why some people preach tithing because they've sorta got a revelation for it and out of love, give a certain percentage of their income to God. I've heard about a man of God who used to give 90% of his income to God. But im totally aware of those who twist scripture, afterall, the devil himself has appeared as an angel of light + many [b]false preachers seem like the real [/b]deal. #Spiritual discernment vital!  We have to be aware that not everyone is at the same spiritual level and some people can accept some teachings and others not for the mean time; but God still loves us all
The fact that some "preachers" whose god is their belly twist the scriptures for "their"financial gain doesn't help matters, but don't let the character of a man determine who God is. No man's perfect!

Truth is we'll always have the poor among us and we're enjoined to help them. I've seen attacks on the Bishop that "own's" private jets (another tory 4 nairaland but never seen any post on the number of people he's supported for years (waiting for the bring-the-evidence-crew to attack moi   or heard about his wife's charity)? Having said that, a lot of us christians take the word of the men of God, hook,line and sinker and sometimes revere it more that God's word, instead of going home and double checking. It's not being judmental, it's being cautious of ravenous wolves. The Bereans did it when the apostles preached to them and guess what? The church there thrived!
Imagine someone saying if you give God £5, you'll get £5 blessing? So you can buy blessing abi??We fit pay God? If so, Lord have mercy on the widow who had only mites, You get the gist?

At the end of the day, it's up to you what you do with your own money. I reckon people that do understand the principle of sowing and reaping do not moan about it. It works for everyone, whether christian or non-christian. If you sow with the right motives, you'll reap! Look at my man Bill Gates , probaly been in Forbes top top for the past 10 years or so, who do we know that has given more than him? Now that's somebody i wanna be like

Point: Give out of love and not compulsion. If you are LED to sow the money into a church and it turns out the pastor doesn't use it according to God's command, rest in the fact that God'll judge him/her as they would be judged more severely than the commoner. Except if maybe, you don't trust God to do that? Or you're being outright judgmental and want to witness the punishment?#speck-log-Jesus-parable

Have a blessed week!

j

Shaking my head at my compatriots, we get work oo.
Two people have claimed that he didn't say it, yet i haven't seen anyone of the people spewing insults at him who've claimed they've checked it out, and the newspapers claims are true. The message no de im website? Why not check it out for yourself to see if true, and if he did say it, correct his wrong views in love, no be so Jesus go do?
It's as if some people are waiting for him to do anything wrong and crucify him, na wa oo. Seems the accuser of the brethren can take a break from his day+night job cos there are many people willing to help him for free!

I wonder if the Christians that have joined in "washing him clean with insults" have read the part of the bible which says "speak evil of no man (Titus 3:2)" -it didn't say tolerate oo, or "let brotherly love continue (Hebrews 13:1)" -i wonder how love and some of these replies correlate.
Before you go ahead and label me bla bla bla remember, MOI ISN'S PERFECTO!  just think if you have never thought, prayed or wished worse on Boko haram and get off your high horse, yeah?! 

@ Northsharp "And so far, they have killed MORE MUSLIMS in their brutal and dastardly terrorist attacks."
Ina ka ji wancen? (Where did you hear that?)
Abeg, spare me that nonsense. They haven't killed more Muslims, FACT. Christians have been the main victims in their attacks and the threats in this video supports that.
Take stats of how many Christians were killed from 2009 till date and how many churches were burnt, and compare that with how many Muslims were killed + mosques burned by the same group. You'll notice your claim is anything but the TRUTH!!

I'm not defending the manner in which their slain leader was killed, but as they say, "he who lives by the sword will die by the sword". Mohammed Yusuf watched as Christians were made to renounce their faith or be killed. The pastor of Goodnews church in Maiduguri, whose wife was allegedly pregnant at that time, was apparently cubed like pieces of meat for refusing to renounce his faith and even preached to them before his death, as he watched! How inhumane!!!

They want to avenge killings ba, who'll avenge the people that were innocently killed by them?

I'M SO GRATEFUL I SERVE A GOD THAT CAN DEFEND ME AND AVENGE ME OF MY ADVERSARIES. HALLELUJAH, THANK YOU JESUS!
It sucks to worship a "god" who you can't trust to defend or take vengeance on your behalf, doesn't it?

And why result to cheap insults on Nairaland, seriously?? smh,

Chippy - fish and chips shop
Cuppa- cup of tea
Tea-dinner
Brunch - Kinda a mixture of late breakfast towards early lunch
Wicked - amazing, nice, cool (ironic i know lol)
Innit - isn't it
Absolutely amazing (watched too much X factor lol)
Taa - thanks
Cheers - thanks
Mate - friend
Can't be bothered - don't care
Can't be arsed - don't care
Flipping
Friggin'
Hilarious
Sick - great, amazing (ironic again )
chap - a person
Quid - money
You ok?
You alright lovely? You alright ducky? - Affectionate way of asking how is one
Tripe
Get a grip!
Sort it out!
Loads
What a load of bull
That's just rubbish
And i can fly! :S - Sarcasm when you don't believe something someone says
Asian - refers to mainly Indians and Pakistanis. Have no idea why its "forbidden" to refer to Chinese, Japanese people like that  
Oriental - Chinese, Japanese etc
LOL- Laugh out loud; WTH - What the hell; IMO-In my opinion; TBH-To be honest; JK-Just kidding; BRB-Be right back; WRT- With respect to; IDK - I don't know
Blonde - Mumu
Ginger - a redhead

I don tire abeg

Ask your friend if he's ever heard of Steve Jobs, former Apple CEO. If he hasn't, ask him if he's heard of Iphone, Ipad, Ipod, Imac, Macbook. I imagine he would have heard of at least one of these.
Tell him that the genius behind these popular products, Steve Jobs was born OUT OF WEDLOCK. Does your friend realise that that baby may be a solution to some problem in the world? Steve Jobs went through hardship but died a billionaire. The kid in question might be born into poverty because of his parents current financial status, but life need not end that way. He is not an illegitimate kid, he never asked to be born this way.
I admire your courage for sticking to your beliefs. Don't let any friend blackmail or guilt-trick you into doing something you don't believe in, because when it backfires, they'll blame you for not being strong enough to say no to them as a friend should when need arises bla bla bla.

Good luck x

paris10:

Thanks for your advice. But it's too late now. Too many people are on my neck. I even had a dream 2 days ago about someone from nowhere killing my sister because of me. Although I've rejected that dream, I however think some people somewhere are after me.

Also, before my dream, my sister called me to warn me that she had a dream that I fell into a river, and that my father (now deceased) came and rescued me. You see, too much trouble. Whilst I believe no one can harm me because of God's power and anointing in my life, I do think they might harm my family.

LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. What i'm about to say is not about me being self-righteous, but from a caring perspective for the woman in this dilemma. Her husband-to-be needs a dose of reality, a cure from "wimpness" and a deliverance from outright pathetic - words fail me - SMH 
She stayed at your house for a bit yeah? Was God's anointing so strong upon you to prevent you falling into sexual sin? If you fell into it, you deliberately chose to live in sin then, right? Shall we continue to sin so that grace may abound? God forbid! Granted, we all make mistakes sha but refer to previous question.
If its about people talking, don't you think they are already doing that about the daughter of their clergy staying over at her fiance's? Don't you think the talk would be more if the daughter of the clergy gets divorced, irrespective of whose fault it is?

You're planning to divorce her but if you are one bit a Christian in every sense of the word (ie Christ-like as many of us want to be), you'll know how much God hates divorce. The only condition (just in case you didn't know before hand) allowed for that is adultery and even that is not ideal, so you'd have to make her commit adultery to have a right to divorce her according to Christian standards. Thought of a plan? (Sarcastic)
And planning to commit sin by re-marrying, on what grounds? Don't you know Jesus said whoever marries a divorced man/woman commits adultery?

I wish i had the contact of the lady, not to do your dirty business for you, but to tell her she deserves far better treatment and stands a chance of getting real happiness, not from a man that plans to make her life miserable and her a mocking stock.
So you were willing to go against your mother and friends' advise about this woman, and now you say that they are cajoling you to marry her? You say you've made it clear that you're marrying her for them, have you no morals? You say you like this girl, like her enough to allow her go through humiliation? YOU SERIOUSLY NEED A DOSE OF MANNING UP DUDE! THIS IS YOUR LIFE!
Is God some dude you can just get to do what you want to do? He's merciful but also a consuming fire ooo. Don't you think you're taking God's grace for granted?
It  seems you have a habit of running away from responsibility. Learn to take responsibility for your actions or it'll come back and bite you right where it hurts. Plus it may bring along some messy "extras" with it. How i wish this story if ficticious, for the life of this poor girl 

My advice to you is, whatever you end up doing be prepared for whatever would be the consequence . I don't believe in pity marriage and all, but i believe marriage is for life and not a thing to be entered into hastily or treated lightly. I just want you to be aware of what you've got yourself into!
If you think a woman whose put 6 years of her life into you is going to take a divorce or any shabby treatment lightly, well good luck. Who knows, she might have a heart of gold.
I'm no expert on marriage laws but i think she's entitled half of your current possessions, innit? Eg Elen Rivas getting half of Lampard's worth or something like that, even though there were NOT married! Ever heard of the term alimony as well? You'll be responsible for her upkeep i think till she remarries.
JUST KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING YOURSELF INTO DUDE!

doctokwus:

Dis kind of grammatical construction makes one to lose interest in some threads,u beta stick to hausa,@least u dnt get pple pissd off

Pot calling kettle black. At least spell correctly if [b]u wan correct person [/b]about grammar lol  

lagerwhenindoubt:

Not all Muslim Notherners are Boko Haram, but by keeping quiet over the past 20 yrs from Iman to Sultan to Governor to citizens, they are all guilty by non-action. It is your Religion, why let a bunch of Religious Murders defame Allah and the Religion of Islam if you are not in support  

I was responding to the guy who said "I wonder why Northerners exist in the first place". It's no surprise we are backward with this stereotypical mentality. How can you justify the ignorance in his post?
Not everything's the way you see it. Maybe for fear of their lives?  Ive heard of Muslim clerics and traditional rulers in Borno State who've condemned the activities of Boko haram and a few days later, they are history i.e murdered.I can't speak for the Imam, Sultan or Governors but i don't think all the northern Muslims are in support (I'm not a mind reader to be certain anyway). Atiku's condemned their activities but nothing of his was affected in any way, for some reason.
Or maybe they endorse it? Or maybe they can't be bothered because it doesn't 'affect' them directly?
@ bolded - I'm hoping that's question is not directed at me, as it doesn't apply to me!

kulutempa:

Of course Britain would come and help Nigeria.  However our leaders are just too thick to realise that such 'assistance' usually comes with a hefty price tag and conditions that lead to limited freedom to act in your best interests.  Just ask the Israelis, who have always fought terrorism on their own terms without seeking any outside help.

Spot on! After all, who goes to war at his own expense? I wonder what all the Special advisers and the peeps in the cabinet are doing. Is it that they don't do their job or the President doesn't take on board their advice?

celeboi:

British and America should act fast, Drones should start rolling on these Almajiris, I wonder why Northerners exist in the first place,

Haba now, are all Northerners members of Boko haram? Ignorance is not good oo. "British and America"SMH

kulutempa:

@Pukkah, I have seldom read truer words about the Nigerian mindset.  You have captured the essence of why we are forever going round in circles, because it's like we want to build a castle without a foundation.   However I personally see nothing wrong in Obasanjo's visit to the Yusuf family, because it at least shows some concern by the powers that be for one of the grievances of the Boko Haram movement, which is the cold blooded murder of their leader.  But that in itself means nothing if the government continues to allow social deprivation to fester in the North and millions of able bodied young men and women to wallow in grinding poverty, unemployment and squalor without any hope for the future.   Should this continue even if Boko Haram of the present are bought off, begged  and pacified, there will be other movements in the future who will note that one of  surest ways to obtain concessions from the government is through the use of force.  That is where I am in total agreement with you, about our leaders' 'kabu kabu' approach to national problems, and our love  for  short cuts, and quick money.

I am not playing down anybody's death as i believe that life is sacred,but their leader was behind the cold blooded murder of 100s - 1000s of people in Maiduguri and other areas. They held Maiduguri under siege for 4 days in 2009, killing, maiming and burning from Sunday night to Thursday before their leader was captured.  Gunshots were the other of the day. A pastor was butchered like meat in the presence of their leader. Don't even get me started about the horriffic pain they instilled on people before before killing them  . All that was in 2009. There's not enough time and honestly, i cbb to list the atrocities they've committed in subsequent years.

What did the UN do to their leader, that warrants the bombing of its building, killng loads? What have varsity students done to them to deserve the fear they've instill in them due to bombing threats and all that?
So if they are trying to avenge the death of their leader, who's gonna avenge the deaths of the people they murdered?  
Forgive me if my sympathy gauge towards them is on an all time low  

I agree with your other points sha. Its so sad that people have to resort to doing illegal stuff to get the attention of the government  

BetaThings:

I have no problem with Jonathan going to church. Read my posts. I have not said anything about this matter before now.
My point is that saying that people are mixing religion with politics is not peculiar to Northeners
I was just pointing out that the photograph of Jonathan kneeling in church gave him some political dividend amongst a lot of christians, whether intended by the GO or not

Isn't that just your opinion or a proven fact, that Jonathan kneeling in church gave him some political dividend bla bla bla? How do you know if that didn't alienate him from Muslims then?
As per North, i've overheard a recording of an Imam/Uztaz in the market, preaching to his audience not to vote for Obasanjo for his second term, some years back but you only have my word for it sha. In all fairness, i am yet of any Christian leader that tells their followers who to vote for.
I believe that's what the person who said you don't mix religion with politics meant but i stand corrected.

BetaThings:

Including the muslims in the Middle Belt and SW?
Why don't you allow these people who have been voting for northerners (at least that is what PDP said in 2007) to tell us
Why must it be a Jonathan agenda that Northerners should not rule (since both of you don't disagree)
Why did Jonathan go an kneel at Redeemed Church? Because he was trying not to mix religion and politics
If you were on ground in April, you would notice that religion, tribalism etc were mixed during the election by Jonathan

It is easy to quote some platitude about progress etc, but sad to say most of the "progressive" ideas  are simply wholesale adoption ideas of western countries
Nigerians are ready to cast off their values and embrace "progressive" ideas - nothing is wrong with h.omo.sexuality
3some is great etc

Of course, I can understand, a lot of christians don't understand the Islamic position on things because
It is in the interest of pastors/christian analysts to sensationalise and distort Islamic issues
Some of our brothers may be fighting ethnic issues but they are seen as religious issues. Afterall there are Hausa christians

Jonathan went to a service on the redeemed ground as any Muslim leader goes to the mosque. Is it wrong for him to go for fellowship? Is it wrong for a Pastor to pray for him? I don't know about muslims but irs a Christian thing to pray for others, just like Jesus did. Some Christians kneel down when they are being prayed for as a sign of reverence to God and humility.
Just felt i should clear that up  
P.S - It might be good to clear up on  facts before jumping into conclusions sometimes. Everything is not always as our eys see it  

Onyocha:

i have warned in a previous thread on the dangers Nigeria faces from western tricks and schemes.all this boko haram nonsense could be a plot by the west to execute their plans in nigeria.the entire boko haram nonsense may be an invention by america to use as a channel to manipulate things in nigeria and cause chaos among nigerians who already hate themselves.nigerians should be careful.

i have raised this issue in my posts in the thread below on page #3:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=750714.msg9069153#msg9069153

thankfully enough someone just opened a thread warning about the same western drive to dominate other countries especially countries with resources particularly oil:

"Western Regime Change Strategy For Mineral Resources I.e. Oil, Gas, Gold Etc":
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-746402.0.html#msg9113770

Bolded 1- Could, what if it isn't (which i believe is the case)?

Seriously, seriously, seriously?     SMH YOU WONDER WHY AFRICA IS NOT DEVELOPED WITH THIS "BLAMEISM" MENTALITY
You have no idea the hatred Boko haram have for anything Western, seriously. They even kill fellow muslims for your info.
I know that there are lots of conspiracy theories whenever anything about America comes up and sometimes, there's an element of truth in it; but to blame Nigeria's problems as "Western tricks" is absurd in my opinion. When all the problems from IBB loans and devalueing the Naira wrecked our economy, did the West help him? Dyou think Nigeria has ever recovered from that? Instead the successive leaders continued in the language of corruption and you blame the West? They are not stupid oo. We are doing a very good job of destroying ourselves that if the West needs any reason for invasion, we'll gladly give it to them. They don't need invest much. That's how bad our leaders have sold us out. Imagine i read the other day that some Western intelligence has full access to the citizens database that the FG has. Now can they ask China to do that? Can the coutry that have all out confidential info offer that of all their citizens to our govt? Is it not our "Mumuness" that we are exhibiting on a platter of gold that they are capitalising on?
WE ARE THE ARCHITECTS OF OUR PROBLEMS IM MY HONEST OPINION.
Our leaders sold us out thanks to corruption and continous lack of development and have paved the way for any nonsense that comes our way. That's one aspect of Ghaddaffi i admire; he developed his country so no one can use any development excuse or find any loophole to use him as a puppet.
If only our African leaders become passionate about Africa  

N101:

Let me see: guy goes to club, spends N300k.  Guy then ends up with girlfriend demanding money and things from him.  Am I the only one who doesn't see the relationship here?

If you want to know if a girl truly loves you, don't flash anything, don't buy recharge card, new phone, clothes, jewellery, gifts.  Wear the same few clothes, if she's lucky you'll take her to Mr Biggs or a Mamaput on a date.  If you're a woman and you want to know if he truly cares and  you're not one of his knock-offs, don't ask him for anything, refuse his gifts, don't sleep with him.  Then you will know who you are dealing with.

Many men don't know what they want, they want to have their cake and eat it; show off, flash cash and then claim the woman is money hungry.  Likewise many women want their boyfriend to act like their Mama and Papa and provide for their every need even when they have their own money and will sell their "love" to the highest bidder all for money.  The latter is known as prostitution.  They both deserve each other.

MAY GOD BLESS YOU PLENTY PLENTY N101 . I was hoping i wasn't the only person who picked up on that.
@ OP, if your friends think that the girls they impress at clubs, are a reflection of the behaviours of ALL women; If they are expecting a miracle to happen after basing the foundation of their relationship on materialism, i de fear for their mental faculty
I honestly don't see the appeal in a blackberry phone that girls are doing all sorts to get.

@Topic: i think Pointb has stated great points (kudos ) and sort of agree with gists that they seem short term. However, I believe if peace loving Muslims would take it personally upon themselves to educate the almajiris and vulnerable Muslims in the society against extremism, then the problem can be solved in the long term. Also, providing avenues for jobs and the likes (because they say an idle mind is the devil's workshop), may hopefully go a long way in helping.

Hey gists and dvee2, hear me out pls
If people are willing to look beyond religious sentiments and this attitude of  "i'll get back at whoever attacks my religion", you will understand that Okunboy  and skydeeris have a point, and yes, it is fair for you to say they misquoted.
I speak as a northerner and someone who has muslim relatives so hear me out before playing the judgemental card, ok?
I have heard first hand from a boy less than 10 years about how they were told in Islamiya (after-school quranic classes),they would get lada (blessings) if they burn the bible. Imagine that kid growing up and being told someone insulted Allah, do you think he will take it lightly?
Granted they can misquote the quran and did not see the context of the verses, this can apply to the bible as people misquote it as well which i am not denying.
Don't you think its high time the majority of the "peace loving muslims" openly condemn these attacks that are done in the name of Allah? Why is it that any major condemnation of the acts of these terrorists of muslim origins, if by non-muslims is taken as an act of war? Or if by Muslims, as betrayal of one of the pillars of Islam (Jihad)?
For example, when the American Pastor threatened to burn qurans, didn't alot of Christians all over + influential non-muslims esp in America condemn the act? Didn't muslims all over condemn the act, threatening all sort of atrocities if it happened, saying that it was unlike Jesus bla bla bla? Can you blame the BH peeps when they think they are following the steps of your great prophet by carrying out these killings because they were made to believe so?
I say all these knowing fully well that traditional rulers and Muslim clerics that condemned BH atrocities in Maiduguri were murdered.

P.S - I don't know the criterion for being a Muslim, so i don't know if the Boko haramites are true Muslims; but a Christian is someone whose done what this verse says:
Romans 10:9  So you will be saved, if you honestly say, "Jesus is Lord," and if you believe with all your heart that God raised him from death.
Romans 10:10  God will accept you and save you, if you truly believe this and tell it to others.
And the bible says by their fruit, ye shall know them. So i don't believe for one second that the Norwegian killer was a Christian, because many Nigerians especially think that if people are they are not Muslims, practice African traditional religions, atheists, etc, that makes them Christians, it doesn't!
What do you have to say about this link on Wikileaks: http://wikileaks.org/cable/2008/03/08ABUJA538.html

Dvee2: Which Danish terrorist killed over 100 in the name of Christianity? Do you mean the Norwegian guy? If so, he did not kill in the name of Christianity and the death toll was 98 according to Reuters (that's the highest reported so far), check your facts. Last time i checked, his motives were unclear but there are theories he wanted a check on immigration and didn't really like the policies of the party in govt; hence killings in a political camp which the Prime minister was scheduled to visit.
Osama Bin Laden's feelings towards the West are widely known and Boko Haram have made it clear they want Sharia implemented in Nigeria; they bombed the UN due to 2Islamic oppression by the the UN" bla bla bla

Xfactoria: Deposing all Emirs would be seen as an act of war because their loyals and extremists wouldn't take it lightly. How many innocent lives would be lost as a result? Not all Emirs are in support of the terror acts. Some of them may have been silent because BH have a policy of killing whoever rebukes them - Christian or Muslim.
The BH situation is not very straight forward and has alot of twists to it.

honeric01:

Make it 10million pounds and I'll consider.

My one and only target remains THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY not when it's empty o.

I don't mind doing it samson style.

Lol i dey feel you dude and i share your anger towards our lawmakers, but we Nigerians have a fault as well i believe. We haven't really made them accountable for the poitical offices we put them in, so we need to come up with a method to do that which doesn't involve blood shed imo.

musiwa.,.:

beaf keep your mouth shut.

After Nigeria government ignore the international community , who warn nigeria government all because of selfish interest. Indication have shown you , there was danger ahead about the satellite picture. Jonathan/ David mark and his so call senators should be blamed for this.


Even ban kim moon went to Benin republic. How can everybody around the world be telling you lie.


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Sorry but i don't get your point. Care to expand please?

PLEASE DOES ANYONE KNOW WHO ACTUALLT VOWED TO MAKE THE COUNTRY UNGOVERNABLE FOR OUR PRESIDENT? Thanks

I see this thread has been resurrected. Claremont dear, how art thou?
I see Sexkillz asked you some questions on page 12 and you said you were gonna reply. That was over a month ago. Wetin de happen now, gas don finish? lol. It woud be nice to see your answers to his questions x

claremont:

^^^^
I will respond to your comments as soon as I am done drinking, don't forget today is Sunday!

uju_1:

just got home to read all this rubbish,  bad belle is the reason why a lot of people do not prosper.

I am not stuck up or spoilt i call most people in my house uncle and aunty as i grew up with them working for us.  Our driver is a young guy who just started last year so no need for uncle. And small madam started from naija film and its a joke around my house.

If my life is paining anyone it should pain them well,  na baba God make am no be by my power.

at so called 'stunna' i do not blame you. stunna my back foot. bad belle fit kill oh better be transformed by the renewal of your mind.

My parents do not know Mr. D you need to learn to read or better yet piddle off and stop trying to piss on my parade.

as for your amateur psycho-analysis, what you think means absolutely nothing to me so not gonna bother with an in depth response to every meaningless comment you made.

ALL lol
76Naira, take note you don't know everything. Didn't i say it?
But OP, chill and don't let people's posts get to you. Anyone who has the power to change your mood sorta controls you.  
Glad this afternoon went well. So when's the next date? (no ameboism intended   ) x

76Naira:

Number 1, Seems you guys are not friends. Your friend would know the right time to try the kiss.
Number 2, "Your driver, small madam" but you call the gate man uncle, Sort this out. It doesn't add up
Number 3, Its a free world, You can chose a very simple place for a 1st date, its more about observations & less about FOOD.
Number 4, Before he started the call or while he was on the phone where you fixated on your BB? Pls be sincere
Number 5, You are already lined up for another guy. You seem to be available & in a hurry. Take some time to know people.
Number 6, It doesn't have to be a joint or the movies to have fun, It can be a friend's wedding or something else.
Number 7, Take it easy, be smart, what is your goal in all this? If its just food, you have it at home.

Bye,

Number 1: I agree but there are exceptions to every rule.
Number 2: Do you know if the driver was recently hired, or if she's older than him? Do you know if the gate man has been her parents employee for very long (before she was born), or if he is way old? Things are not always the way we see them oo.
Number 3: She didn't choose, he did. Its a widely held belief i suppose that first impression on a date counts, so forgive the OP for expecting more of an effort, duh (isn't there a smiley for being sarcastic )
Number 4: Do you know if she's got a BB? Also, what's wrong with going on it supposing she has one. She's keeping herself busy, innit? Should she be staring at his face, the road or something else whilst he was ignoring her
Number 5: If you read her posts, she knew both of the guys before hand. The first one from Uni and the current one, is a friend of the family.
GOSH, some peeps have a know-it -all attitude ooo, I'll let you off cos it might have been an oversight on your part
Number 6: True but the date was on a weekday i suppose because he picked her from the office.
Number 7: Seriously Isn't refusing to kiss him taking it easy food? wt?

@ OP. Good luck with your date

tpia@:

she does look extremely skinny.

is she sick?

hope the man didnt give her something.

he looks jazzed, btw.

i wonder who is doing him.

E dey show for face

Is that pic with MJ and Odi from their trad wedding? She looks fit in the pic and him,
WISH HER LUCK COS I RECKON SHE'LL NEED IT!

ShangoThor:

Al Quaeda is in Nigeria, whether you like it or not, this is not rocket science it is common sense. This is also why Nigeria is frigged up, instead of being objective enough in order to identify our problems, we bury our heads in the sand or try to blame others.

Can anybody with an IOTA of common sense explain to me how illiterate Almajiris have managed to change their methods of attack to more sophisticated and more precise and effective methods. Why, some even mentioned at the time that the first suicide bombing at the Police HQ in Abuja was not carried out by a Nigerian, because a Nigerian would never engage in such an act, but this has been proven to be false intel. The suicide bomber was Nigerian, the same individuals arguing in this thread.

To fix this problem we have got to accept a few hard truths, the majority of Southerners travel to the West, the majority of Northerners travel to Sudan etc. Northern Nigerians (Some) are being trained in  Militant Islamic Camps, its a bitter pill to swallow, but it is the truth

Southern Nigerians are pathetically docile. Its the same as we have known about the corruption in the Police force for neons but as a Society, it is something that has been tolerated, nobody thinks of what happens when we get to a situation where Armed bandits can bribe the Police or Terrorists, when you cross a certain line there are always consequences, all that it will boil down to is who is the highest bidder or payer.

WELL SAID

Chyz*:

Sounds like Islam means The West.

They both want the same thing i think,that's why they're always fighting each other.

Bliss4Lyfe:

Chyz well said. This is more dan meets the eye. It is important dat we don't forget that the west see war as a means to an end and are prepared to kill to get wat they want. After Sudan, Libya and Egypt, Nigeria was always going to be next becos of oil. Then Venezuela.

The strategy is simple. The west need to control global supply of oil against China and use it to slow or destablise Chinese growth.

Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar it they have their way.

Chyz*:

Thank you. The only thing these[b] fools[/b] on NL know is islam islam islam,nor north north, GEJ GEJ GEJ. They cant even see how even on a forum they are being pinned against each other and setting enemies amongst themselves.

I don't think calling people "fools" because they do not share your opinion, necessarily makes you wise; it makes you sound the opposite actually, no offence.
There's more than one side to a story and the issue with Islamic extremism and GEJ laxity cannot be ignored. However, you have a point about Western propaganda (as seen in Libya) as this UN office bombing thing does not seem to add up.
Hopefully, time will reveal the truth.
Question is, how many lives will have to suffer and how may people will have to die before all this mess stops?

ShangoThor:

It never fails to amaze me how Nigerians are absolutely deluded and are in complete denial. Nigerians are so fake it makes me sick, physically revolting. Everybody, especially board members have been aware of this, and I was screaming about this months ago. Some chose to deny the Al Quaeda connection and others chose to abuse, but now poo has hit the fan.

You reap what you sow. Start bracing yourselves for another audacious attack, where will the target be, who knows.

Nigeria needs to separate period!

I don't think seperation will solve the problem. Its a complex situation in my opinion.
My reasons/questions/thoughts:
1. Say Nigeria splits into North and South: What's gonna happen to the Northern Christians and Southern Muslims? What's gonna stop intermarriages between the muslims in the North and South, possibly encouraging extremist infiltration? What assurance is there that radicalisation of southern muslims is impossible?
What's gonna stop Al-Qaeda from committing atrocities in "Southern Nigeria"? USA and UK are "Christian"  countries with some muslim population but that did not stop 9/11 and 7/7, did it?

2: Split North and South. Will the Igbos not demand Biafra? Will the Yorubas, Niger deltans and the other tribes happily live as one and not demand their respective countries? How will the assets and reserves of the one Nigeria be shared to the satisfaction of everyone, without the idiots Mafias from the North passing false/wrong info to local islamic schools, and then shouting La ila ha, killing Christians + southerners before the process is even completed?

[b]I ABSOLUTELY LOVE NIGERIA AS WE ARE  <3 [/b]AND I DON'T WANT TO THINK FOR A SECOND THAT WE'LL SPLIT, COS WE FROM THE NORTH ( ALTHOUGH THE LOUDEST NOISEMAKERS eg IBB, Atiku, Buhari, Sanusi etc) WILL SUFFER THE MOST IMO!

IT SEEMS IRONIC THOUGHT THAT BOKO HARAM WILL BOMB THE UN BUILDING, WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN? MAYBE INTERNATIONAL COVERAGE? OR TO HIT OUT AT THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT? OR MAYBE THEY THINK UN WAS FORMED DUE TO WESTERN EDUCATION?

Whatever it is, if its true that an expatriate died in this attack and if he's American at least, Boko Haram can clap for themselves for inviting "WAR AGAINST TERROR" in Nigeria

Chyz*:

Cut this "Al qaeda" nonsense out. Noone need to be linked to some "al quaeda" to bomb a place. There is no such al qaeda. It is all propaganda! "Al qaeda" is just a metaphor for "We are going to invade you're contry" by the western powers. This act is even against the claimed goal of boko haram which is to " make northern nigeria sharia compliant solely". How is bombing the UN building going to bring that. It doesn't add up. Why would "boko haram" bomb a place that they know will give the ok of foreign powers to invade their region and completely destroy their "fight for sharia law in the north"? I cant remember them asking for secession from nigeria so what business would they have with the UN?

You all dont be fools!

I think Boko Haram want to make the WHOLE OF NIGERIA operate under Sharia. The goal of Islam is to conquer the world, whatever it takes,innit?

GOD HAVE MERCY