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red101: rotflmao @ black death was likely Ebola.
the bubonic plague wasn't even mentioned anywhere in the article. the black death outbreak occurred in the 1300s so that's only about 800 yrs ago whereas the plague of athens occurred around 450 BC which is about 2,500 years ago. Were you asleep during the european history section of your history class?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_of_Athens
source of this ancient plague was recorded to be Ethiopia actually.


read the passage carefully. I didn't think it would be too complicated for you to understand. but I thought wrong. not surprised.


summary:
ebola and marburg diverged from a common source around 700 years ago.
that common source could have been a filovirus that affected humans and there are speculations that a plague from 2500 yrs ago was a similar filovirus like the one that eventually split 700s ago to give rise to viruses like ebola.

Look, you ret@rd with grand pretensions of genius, I don't need to read your article when I have access to and read scientific research papers voraciously. I guess you think Bubonic Plague and Black Death are the same eh? Mumu.

You too read these:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117310
http://www.nature.com/scitable/blog/viruses101/could_the_black_death_actually
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theories_of_the_Black_Death

In 2001, Susan Scott and Christopher Duncan, respectively a demographer and zoologist from Liverpool University, proposed the theory that the Black Death might have been caused by an Ebola-like virus, not a bacterium. Their rationale was that this plague spread much faster and the incubation period was much longer than other confirmed Y. pestis–caused plagues. A longer period of incubation will allow carriers of the infection to travel farther and infect more people than a shorter one. When the primary vector is humans, as opposed to birds, this is of great importance. Epidemiological studies suggest the disease was transferred between humans (which happens rarely with Yersinia pestis and very rarely for Bacillus anthracis), and some genes that determine immunity to Ebola-like viruses are much more widespread in Europe than in other parts of the world. Their research and findings are thoroughly documented in Biology of Plagues.[26] More recently the researchers have published computer modeling[27] demonstrating how the Black Death has made around 10% of Europeans resistant to HIV.

But of course, I suspect it's beyond your mental capacity.

red101: Of course humans could have contracted other older forms of Filoviruses long before this timeline, and there has been speculation that ancient plagues such the one that struck Athens in 430 BCE were actually caused by Ebola-like filoviruses.

Aha...now you are talking...even Black Death (which devastated Europe) has been compared to Ebola and was likely Ebola. But I don't deal in speculation. They should check for antibodies in the European populace as well (though due to the time frame, traces might have disappeared); if they really want to get to the bottom of where Ebola came from. After all the largest population of those with the DNA mutation that provides immunity to Ebola is found in Europe, not Africa.

red101: the highlight of your post is in bold. I laughed.
Goodnight
don't get your blood pressure to high. Next time, put on your thinking cap and try to reason logically.

LMAO @ thinking cap...as if YOU can ever find one. I have been having deeper thoughts long before you even knew what a thinking cap was. Kindly back your assertions or shift off. I really shouldn't be giving idle speculators the time of day.

...and where is the highlight? Seems somebody is having high blood pressure and forgot to highlight after all. Speaking of projection...

red101: do you think these are coincidences.

3 most well-known hemorrhagic viruses:

Ebola virus: first discovered in belgium in 1976 after a Belgian nun contracted it in congo.
Lassa virus: First discovered in USA in 1969 after after 2 american nurses contracted it in Nigeria
Marburg virus: first discovered in germany in 1967 after several german pharmaceutical scientists were infected from monkeys imported from uganda

the nun and nurses were contracted it while caring for African patients by the way.
do you really think ebola appeared for the first time in 1976? or we simply know of the date 1976 because the europeans recorded it.

Oh, and the Marburg virus didn't infect the populace in Uganda from where the monkeys were imported. Hmm. Oh, OK, it infected them but it wasn't recorded. Right. Now, present us with facts of these outbreaks that preceded Marburg, or shut it.

red101: you sound very ignorant here. Nobody even knows the exact dates of this 2014 epidemic talkless of 1976 epidemic. All the dates we know are based on reports but no one knows about the patients that weren't reported and I'M SURE there were unreported patients.
but you can use patterns in data to make predictions and estimations. My quote was "i'm sure there were outbreaks before 1976" of course the dates are unknown.
Clearly you have never taken a statistics course in your life. so much for your username. way to turn the definition of logic upside down.

Read this and salivate on it.
http://markduerksen.com/2014/08/04/ebolas-history-3-pre-1976/

Look here you monkey, I will teach even your father statistics and I am not even bragging here. Statistics is not for idle speculators like you. It is used for real work and deductions. You are sure of outbreaks before 1976 yet you cannot back up your assertions. If you have nothing to offer than "perhaps" or "likely" you best keep it moving and shut the fvck up.

LMAO. Speculator. Let me borrow from your scientific sophistication and apply "projection" to the World Cup. You know everybody believes the World Cup started in 1930. But with statistics, I can project backwards and prove it actually started in 1910. See pseudo science at its peak.

red101: well I heard yesterday that if you eat 2 kolanuts a day, your ebola will be cured.

You heard that from who...your FATHER...or MOTHER?

red101: it's ok. we both know that the "west" is behind the ebola virus. *wink*
why are you now pretending to be so scientifically sophisticated.

Abi were n'se eleyi. Look, just mention the dates of the outbreaks you speculate. See who's talking about pretending to be scientifically sophisticated. Start with mentioning dates now...ode.

red101: Look at logica's relatives.

...it seems you are indeed seeing red. If you want to engage in a diss-fest I cannot oblige you this morning. It is too early for 1diots.

red101: I, like you, really don't understand why europe keep manufacturing diseases in mysterious medical labs to kill us off.

First you continue to speak of salt solution; which I never mentioned. Then you speak of Europe "manufacturing diseases". You are beginning to sound like an 1diot, really. When you address me, and you cannot reference these things you speak of from my posts, you come across as ret@rded.

red101: The Medical scientists were not there to help out so we have no information about it. or the outbreaks happen in rural areas where there were probably no local health officials.just babalawos maybe.
and because they were minor outbreaks, people just moved on with their lives once it was over. and maybe they went and perform sacrifices so that the "gods" won't be angry with them in the future. the outbreak was known as "period of amadioha's pestilence"

...continue with your speculations.

red101: if you look at the list, you can deduce logically that there were outbreaks before 1976. It's called statistics. you have the major outbreaks and minor ones in between so based on the pattern from the data, I can conclude that there were previous outbreaks.

Give the dates of the outbreaks; it is called FACTS.

englishmart: it's not even sporting Lisbon, it's Sporting Clube de Portugal.

I was surprised when I saw Porto. Wetin concern fowl with toothbrush?

...AKA Sporting Lisbon! Jeez.

safarigirl: how can Chelsea have made Drogba? Drogba wasn't a teenager when Mourinho got him, he was a grown a55 man who had a certain position, nothing to develop anymore, that's like Onazi moving to Liverpool and making a name then someone saying Liverpool made him.

Oya answer me this, which club made CR7: Porto, Man United or Real Madrid?

Sporting Lisbon you mean?

fijiano202: Nope dude...drogba became a star at marseille not chelsea..the only star he could have helped was mikel

Benni McCarthy?

Kimmo: At least we speak better English.
FYI, it's "too many monkeys"

...and there is a reason he's concerned; and can't write/speak good English: He is INDEED a monkey.

red101: how is the ludicrous saltwater solution different from traditional spiritual healer solution? In fact, the salt water solution may have come from an alternative medicine practitioner.

Dude, the salt water thing was a hoax; even the initiator had come out to apologize. And guess what, the reason the hoax was thought to be real is the same reason you all will swallow any narrative given you by the West.

red101: wow. can't believe anyone can be so ignorant.
Ebola did not "jump." There are many different strains of it and they are found in primates and a few other mammals. There have been several outbreaks since 1976 and i'm sure there were outbreaks before 1976. The 1976 one was just really big and got the attention of international world.
Another similar virus is the Marburg virus with similar symptoms. Also the Lassa fever with similar hemorrhage symptoms. These are viruses that transmit from animals to humans and are very deadly. They are nothing new to Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lassa_fever
THe marburg virus was so named because the germans experienced it after importing monkeys from africa for pharmaceutical testing. Over 30 germans died from it and after that, there was an awareness about it.
Usually when these outbreaks happen in Africa we say it's the work of the 'gods" or "devil". We do not treat it as a medical problem. it is usually western countries that come in to describe it medically then a few ignorant ones among us, because we have never heard the "medical term" before, start saying it was 'imported'

You are sure there were outbreaks before 1976; yet you cannot give us the dates. As you indicated, Africans never had cures for any diseases. We never knew what diseases were; yet we had herbs and various precautions? The "agbo" that your grandmother probably drank regularly; what did you think it was?