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taxifyguy36:
I taya oh.....I go fvck M CRY. FVCK D 133 MILLION KUMOT FROM HER BODY

u no fit o my bro. how many rounds can u go in 12hrs

authehighness:
idolatory is anything that takes place of God in your life,even your phone can be your idol,moreover,mary has never taken place of God in our church,how many times do we mention mary in our mass,God gave law through moses and the jew celebrate and honour moses till today,God gave us christ through mary and celebrating and honouring her has become idolatory,even some country celebrate and honour their heroes,erecting statues in their honour,you hate mary,because catholic chose to honour her,forgeting she is the mother of christ,our God and saviour,first daughter of God the father,mother of God the son and spouse of God the holyspirit,salvation brought grace and she is full of grace before christ death,ask yourself why is it so,she deserve my honour,i have never worship her because i know what worship is all about,even you that claim to worship God,if God open your eyes in the spirit,you might be ashame,of what you called,worship of God

JusticeSeeker:
Roman Catholics say assert this so as to justify their idolatrous deitification of Mary as the mother of God and make her the fourth person in the unity of the godhead

authehighness:
gospel focused so much on Jesus and his ministry,there are books that give account of mary life and testimony,starting from her encouragement to the apostles while in the upper room,the role she played in the early church and her marriage to joseph,a pious and a religious,who understand God's plan for mary without argument took her as his wife,as i said early catholic is an ancient church with many collection of books,even the bible,they help to put together,gospel is all about christ no need of including mary's account,thanks,being overshadowed as archangel gabriel said in luke1v 48,said for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden,for behold henceforth all generation shall call me blessed,it is a prophesy that must fulfilled even if catholic church don't honour and called her blessed,God will raise another that will fulfil this prophecy

Penalty82:
Dumb.

Penalty82:
Mention one person He punisged for rituals.

authehighness:
i have a question,in john 19v26-27when jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing near,he said to his mother,woman behold your son,then he said to the disciple ,behold your mother and from that hour the disciple took her to his own house and i ask why did Jesus hand mary to John when he knew he has siblings,ezekiel 44v2this gate shall remain shut,it shall not be opened and no one shall enter by it,for the lord,the God of isreal has entered by it,God cannot allow the womb and blood that form and give birth to Jesus to produce another being,because the blood is too precious,mary virginity is pure truth,catholic church teaches with written word,that is the scripture and oral language,taught by the apostle without being written,2 thessalonical 2v15 so then brethren,stand firm and hold to the traditions,which you were taught by us,either by word of mouth or by letter

Filmewell:
OK. Next argument you just won

thorpido:
Of course she had other children from the biblical reference above.She had a normal wife/husband relationship with Joseph.
Even if she didn't,she couldn't remain a virgin after giving birth to Jesus.Abi na C/S dem do for am?

Penalty82:
God has already told you that marriage is between a man and a woman, if you go contrary you'll be punished. Kiss the truth.

Penalty82:
Whatsoever that disqualifies you from bn a worker in the church will also disqualify you from entring Heaven.

TheNazarene:
First, lets get things straight, I am replying as a believer in Jesus Christ not as a member of RCCG, Winners, OFM, Christ Embassy or any of them.

Secondly, don't think you can comprehend God because He made us in His Image, in His Likeness! We are by far inferior to Him in both our most domesticated and wildest imaginations, He can do and undo whatever He pleases and will not be questioned.

That is why He is God. If you want the foolishness of mankind to cause you to question or challenge Him, I can tell you boldly that there won't be a beginning to your story.

Now when we study the Bible from the beginning, we see that when man fell, all God has been doing is to bring into this world through human means a man that will be blameless, which is His Son Jesus Christ.
And so He chose Abraham, Isaac then Jacob who gave rise to Israel. Looking at the patriarchs, we will see that they were let me put purify to God's standard for all nations through many trials and testings, therefore their descendants Israel was (at that time) a nation through which God can bring forth the Saviour of the world.

Then, He chose Judah, who also got the kind of blessings from Jacob, which hinted of Judah being a royal house/lineage, everything is set, God now has a chose lineage out of a chosen nation, He just have to ensure continuity while maintaining the purity of that lineage by any (Godly/goodly) means necessary.

Genesis 38:2 And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her.
Genesis 38:3 And she conceived, and bare a son; and he called his name Er.
Genesis 38:4 And she conceived again, and bare a son; and she called his name Onan.
Genesis 38:5 And she yet again conceived, and bare a son; and called his name Shelah: and he was at Chezib, when she bare him.
Genesis 38:6 And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar.
Genesis 38:7 And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him.
Genesis 38:8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.
Genesis 38:9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
Genesis 38:10 And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.
Genesis 38:11 Then said Judah to Tamar his daughter in law, Remain a widow at thy father's house, till Shelah my son be grown: for he said, Lest peradventure he die also, as his brethren did. And Tamar went and dwelt in her father's house.
Genesis 38:12 And in process of time the daughter of Shuah Judah's wife died; and Judah was comforted, and went up unto his sheepshearers to Timnath, he and his friend Hirah the Adullamite.

Looking at the traditions of that time, it was like an abomination for a man not to have a descendant that will preserve his name that is why Judah told Onan to sleep with Tamar to give Er a descendant (absurd right? but that was what was obtainable then)

But satan living up to his name as being evil, trying to put a stop to God's plans, got Er and Onan to incur God's wrath and get killed, and at that time his daughter also died which gave Judah goosebumps of losing all His children

Therefore Judah tried to safeguard his last descendant, Shelah (who might have have evil tendencies as his brothers) rather than give him to Tamar so as to avoid the same fate as his brothers, he tried to stifle traditions, well God didn't have time for the traditions of men, all He wanted was to ensure the continuity of Judah till the time of Jesus birth.

And so satan played into God's Hands, satan thought that Judah sleeping with a prostitute will scatter everything and taint Judah, but to the shame of the devil, Judah slept with Tamar who is not a prostitute but disguised as one, now I am not saying my next postulation is infallible but...since the traditions of that time required the first son to have a descendant, so we can say Judah gave Er a descendant, while staying alive and without risking Shelah. So we can say technically he did the right thing according to the traditions at the time, which justifies Pharez as a legitimate son.

I don't have the time now to go into Solomon and Rehoboam's cases, but all I can say is that these three exceptions are God's way of proving to us that with Him no matter how messy our lives are, we can have a glorious and and expected end. Because as we can see Judah, David and Solomon didn't train their children well enough in the way of the Lord which brought about this mess

Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.

and please can you quote the place in the Bible God promised David many wives?

tamethem:
You have made a very strong point bro. The same I wanted to point out before reading your post.

Now Our people don't know that when the whites that brought Christianity brot it they brought their culture along. I am sure if the British wore Jalamia traditionally we would have been wearing Jalamia to church but because they came with their suits and trousers every pastor and Christian is in suit to church.

One man one wife is the tradition of the British who brought us Christianity.

Now when Paul was addressing the congregation he said who among you who want to be Bishops or Deacons must be men of one wife.

Common sense should tell us that if A Principal stands in front of the whole Assembly of students and says who among you students that wants to be Prefect must always tuck in your Shirt.

What he means is those of you that don't aspire to be prefects can leave your shirts out of your trousers.

And if he wants all to tuck in. He would have said

Everyone of you must always tuck in your shirts.

There is no place in the entire Bible where the Bibles says polygamy is a sin. No where.

Two shall become one that people quote and refer to is the man and each of the women.

Non of the women came to be joined with any other woman in the first place but the man. So each of them is one with the husband. There is no three or four in this case.

It may sound somehow but its because we have allowed ourselves to be misled by the culture of those that brought us Christianity.

If we say only everything that Jesus did is what we are going to do then non of us should be married because Christ never did.

Peace

TheNazarene:
Yes, I admit, I forgot those...but come to think of it, having only three exceptions against my proposition can't stand against generations of Biblical examples (though not directly) supporting marital restitution?

PSTEMMA1960:
;Dhow i go vex？i am nt qouting u again because u no dey read ur bible, how me and u go debate when u can't even qoute one verse, go and study and qoute me later..

PSTEMMA1960:
and u could nt even use atleast one verse of the bible to buttress ur point？i won't qoute u again.. take care..

alBHAGDADI:
Every sensible person reading this thread can see that you are just trying to justify your sins. Many have given you scriptural backing and even explained them, but you claim they are just phylosophical talks.

Well, it's your life and you can live it the way you want. But know that all those @frosbel2 and his cohorts are satanists whom you shouldn't be listening to. Perhaps you are one of them who is just here to confuse the Christians.

Enjoy your life.

alBHAGDADI:
Why are you hell bent on getting this twisted?

Putting away means divorce in the Eyes of God. You can only put away/divorce the first wife you got married to. It is such God hates. But putting away the other women that came after your first wife is not regarded as putting away/divorce in the Eyes of God cos He never recognized them. Your union with them was adulterous to Him. So therefore, your putting them away is seen as obedience to Him.

alBHAGDADI:
You can't find it expressly written that ''put away your other wives after you get born again''. No, you can't find such. You can only find scriptures that state what a Christian marriage should be. Anything asides that is sin. Or will you now say having sex with a sex doll isn't sin cos the bible didn't state it expressly?

Now, what problem do you think you are creating for yourself and the children from such union? Have you ever thought about the good you might actually be paving way for? What if she ends up with a good man, a man of her own? What if she remains and creates problems associated with polygamy in your house?

Don't live in sin. Your preventing such a woman from going is also tieing her down in sin.

alBHAGDADI:
He hates putting away the wife of your youth whom He recognizes, not the newcomers who have plunged you into adultery. Putting them away is equivalent to obeying Him. Keeping them is equivalent to disobeying Him.