European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 9:03am On May 28, 2018 |
LosVikingos: So bad, Legends are not to be treated mercilessly like they are nothing Seriously, there's a way they'd have worded it differently and it wouldn't have sounded so insulting. Anyway, let's live and let live. There'd always be the crowd that sees things differently. Nothing we can do. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 3:42am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: You really are lord at twisting!
So your proof that he was promised another contract is from his saying he still has one other contract and he's going to play in Madrid till he's 41?
Never mind, I know people like you cuz I was once like you. Take care bro You asked for a link, I gave it to you, now a cat has got your tongue? I asked a very simple question there. Answer it. This is not a reporter. This is not a newspaper "making things up." That is his comment to the press after signing a new deal. The exact type of proof you say you want. Now you're withdrawing after saying you're "100% certain" I made that claim up. There's absolutely nothing you've disputed that's held up to scrutiny, from the image rights to this one. Now you're disappearing. Where are you going? Continue. Someone can't say "it's enough" again; as if you're going to get a CL medal if you continue arguing. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 3:18am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: I like how you pulled a false dichotomy by saying I said he was not promised a contract in order to add some credibility to your swallowing what papers said
FYI I never said he wasn't promised, don't dishonestly put words in my mouth again "I never said he wasn't promised," yet you have been disputing the fact that he was promised despite the report coming from a reputable source. Oga stop confusing yourself! It is embarrassing. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 3:16am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: Give this one, any rubbish source is allowed no matter how unreliable it is
I'm almost 100% certain you made that up Stop typing nonsense! How can you be 100% certain about something you haven't even researched. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/nov/07/real-madrid-cristiano-ronaldo-not-my-last-deal-want-to-go-until-41Ronaldo's comment: “No one knows what the future holds but I would like to end my career at this club. This is my penultimate contract. I want to be here for many years to come.” In case you don't know, penultimate means second to last. So why would CR7 call the contract he signed in 2016 his penultimate if he wasn't given any concession promises? Arguing blindly! -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 3:02am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: give me Just one source of any paper saying he was promised such in 2016 while signing the new contract
I now know what your problem is The other one I gave you, have you accepted it? -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 3:00am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: If he never discusses with newspapers then its not a fact that he "promised" him contract! doesn't matter the number of papers that are saying it, it doesn't make it fact!! don't you still get it? papers try to get clicks and would make stuff up to get it when they need to and some speculations are taken from one paper and used in others or quoted
Basically newspapers are known for making stuff up most of the time so they're not reliable, since they're not then a paper saying Perez promised Ronaldo a contract shouldn't be presented as fact!!
I think this is simple enough and if you still don't get it then I'm sorry I can't help any further Not all newspapers are known for making stuff up. That's why I gave you a reputable link written by a reputable journalist with dependable sources. Perez promised him a contract. Whether you accept it or not is immaterial. A reputable journalist with credible sources reported it in a reputable sport paper. I'd take that over you saying Perez did not promise him a contract. That is how we follow the happenings in the club. I asked you to tell us how many times Perez has talked about pending contracts in the media before signing them. All of a sudden you forgot how to type. But that is the proof you are looking for. Then you want us to dismiss the second best thing because it hurts your feelings. Why have Sky Sports, AS et al not reported Isco asking for a raise since "all newspapers are known for making stuff up." Just be typing whatever comes to your mind before thinking it true. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 2:47am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: And its also funny how you keep using the one single stat u got wrong with the image rights to discredit what I'm saying but you ignore that you said Ronaldo was promised a new contract in 2016 when he signed in November of that same year
I guess its easier to see the dust in another person's eye than the wood in our own eyes What single stat? You were the one who said Messi's image rights sharing ratio is 50:50 and Ronaldo's sharing ratio is 100:0. I blew that statement out of the water and you're clutching onto straws, after admitting you are not current. Oga he was promised concessions in 2016 while signing the new contract. Is it that you can't understand English or are you just deliberately trying to be mischievous. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 2:41am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: I think I'm done here. Keep presenting Ronaldo being promised a new contract as facts based on it being on the pages of newspapers. They can never be wrong or make things up, can they? Don't think. Continue. When I said let's let this lie fallow and discuss something else, you were forming IGG. Whether you think you're the only one who has data to contest a point I don't know. Coman explain how Sky Sports is not a reputable source. Also tell us how many times Perez has given pending contract information to the media before it was signed. All of a sudden we should wait for all stories to be corroborated by execs before talking about them. I'm sure we are not trying to sign Neymar. We did not make overtures for Kane. Yet, you'd cherry pick the speculations you want to use (a la Mbappe wage) and dismiss the ones you don't like (a la CR7 new contract). -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 2:31am On May 28, 2018 |
paroh137: You disappoint me wallahi. I wish you would just stop typing smh Very funny fellow. I wonder what his issue is really? Talk from left to right, compare apples to oranges, make shocking statements. What exactly did he mean by let CR7 play for 3 years and leave. Like he never thinks his statements through. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 2:28am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: Oh sheet!
1. that something appeared on pages of newspapers doesn't make it true. a lot of these speculations are sourced from one paper and quoted and mined by another so corroboration doesn't say much. so many players Madrid are linked to aren't even being considered by us
Don Balon is a massive joke of a paper that it is virtually banned on reddit, maybe visit other places before concluding what the papers are saying is a fact? https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/88off2/don_balon_coutinho_recommends_barca_to_go_for/
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/7pqkqo/marco_asensio_receives_a_phone_call_from_mourinho/
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/8hf148/express_salah_has_told_coutinho_that_he_thinks/
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/820d2j/marco_asensio_knows_man_utd_want_raphael_varane/
2. I can't believe you're using Emery to buttress a point, yes papers do get it right SOMETIMES but most times get it wrong. they make up scenarios to sell papers and get clicks then other papers pick it from there and sell the same stories. its easy to look back with hindsight and say "Look they got emery right" without looking at the massive failures in other stories. you're counting the hits and ignoring the misses then making a law from the hits.
Mind you, I'm not saying he didn't get promised or he did bit rather Newspapers aren't a good source of things like this. Things like contract talks are shrouded with high secrecy so I'd take whatever the papers say with a grain of salt rather than swallow it as fact unless someone is quoting his agent or Ronaldo himself then its safe to say Ronaldo was promised on the pages of newspapers and would be paid on its pages too Oga, stop typing nonsense. Did you even read my post? Who is saying Don Balon is a reputable source? Can't you read and understand. If you're not giving fake stats, you're contradicting yourself, or you're just typing things that don't sound right. You were the one who was talking about overpaying people in the pre-Calderon era. Then when I reminded you of the Makelele incident, you somehow extrapolated that to saying a CR7 loss is equivalent to Di Maria and Pepe leaving. Now you're asking why am I using Emery to buttress a point. And then you conveniently ignored the point where I said Perez never discusses new contracts in the media before signing them. Yet you're asking for proof that Perez said something about the contract. You asked for a reputable source, I gave you; now you're saying not all sources are true. No sh*t sherlock! Oga is Sky Sports a reputable source or not? -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 2:19am On May 28, 2018 |
Igboid: You want to mess with CR7 and build your team around the likes of Bale? Same injury prone Bale with tendency to go missing in matches? Had Bale ever had a 40 goals plus season throughout his football playing career? Just two goals in a final and he's now the best thing since sliced bread?
Tell me where else you are going to get a 40 goals plus per season player the whole Europe if you piss off CR7, you say he is declining, yet peeps had been saying same trash since 2015, even when dude keeps banging in goals.
Every season, he must have to re prove himself to a bunch of ungrateful people.
A labourer is worth his wages, give him a pay rise as a motivational stimulus and reap them all back in goals.
Hala Madrid. You they mind them. My issue is not even about any other player sef. CR7 is going to leave, and IMO, the club has been trying to get us to adjust slowly to a post-CR7 future by having him play less. The issue is that some fans actually believe he doesn't deserve a raise despite him scoring most of our goals in each of the 3 peat seasons. And are acting like he is replaceable. Like making him unmotivated is somehow going to improve our chances of winning titles. Some fans sha. The funny thing is when it eventually backfires, na them go still follow pursue Perez. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 2:05am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: He signed a contract in 16/17 if I recall correctly. if they promised him a raise then they can decide to change their mind based on things that happened afterwards. Like I said he's playing less and less games while earning a lot more than he did when he was playing a lot more
That of Neymar have all been speculations, no official has said anything about them negotiating for Neymar and the news you hear about are borne out of speculations and press asking questions as though the speculations were true
We refused to pay Mbappe 180K a week because it meant only Ramos Bale and Ronaldo would be earning more so we know what we're doing and I trust this board's decisions
However I insist we are not barca that bent over backwards for Messi You are calling the Neymar talk speculations, but say we refused to pay Mbappe 180k/week. Is that not a speculation? We sent Mbappe a 140m euros offer, Monaco accepted it, but he rejected it. We did not refuse anything. Mbappe rejected Madrid (for development reasons), not the other way around. Just be typing stuff that doesn't make sense. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 1:51am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: No! don't quit so easily, admit you have no reputable source of him being promised a new contract
Guillem Balague is simply writing what he thinks would happen, he gave no quotes nor interviews to buttress his article. is this were y'all were getting the idea that he was promised a contract? is Balague Madrid's official mouthpiece?
can't believe a speculated article is all the origin of all these Seriously!!! You want this to drag on for the entirety of this week, because I can make that happen. Guillem Balague is not writing what he thinks would happen. He has dependable sources in the capital that gave him the info. Perez never gives quotes or interviews for contracts before they're signed. Doesn't mean he hasn't signed any contract since he became President. How do you bloody reason? That's how you're equating CR7 loss to Di Maria leaving. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 1:47am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: What exactly this link supposed to do exactly? how is this a link of what I requested? so a journalist is our source and all we need to prove Perez promised him a contract? is this where you get your info from?
You've been talking since like Perez came out to say he's giving him a contract but now bring up a journalist who from his use of words is not even sure such a promise existed? Not one quote, not one sentence from any of the higher ups Dude, it was corroborated by several sources, including Marca. It's Guillem Balague and Skysports, not Don Balon. How can you be looking for where Perez said he'd give him a contract. Did Perez say so before he gave him his 2016 contract? Can't even understand your thought process. Journalist and reputable papers report behind the scenes happenings. We learned that Arsenal was going to sign Emery way before Arsenal did so. We knew RM sent an offer to Mbappe's camp late last year, it was only this month that an executive corroborated the claim. Stop typing like you started following football today. You don pass that level. What next, you're going to ask me where Perez said he is trying to sign Neymar? -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 1:39am On May 28, 2018 |
Anyway I'm done with the CR7 wage discussion. Moi will just observe. E no dey hard to trend #PerezOut when things start falling apart.
I'm positive they'd sort themselves out tho'. I just hope they do so timely, so it'd not affect next season. We have a lot to worry about and losing CR7 shouldn't even be on the list.
That said, let's discuss sth else jare.
-Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 1:30am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: I find it funny how people seem to use makelele as example always as a sign of Perez getting it wring but people like you can't see when we let go of vital players due to wage demands too. we let go of ozil when his father was requesting for a higher wages and we've gone through trophy galore since then. we let go of Di Maris after he had his best season in a Madrid shirt due to his using his requesting to be paid as much as Ronaldo and trophies also followed. We let go of Pepe when he was requesting for 2 year contract and an increase in wages but we let him go too and trophies followed but let's stay fixated on Makelele which was one of the few times we were wrong and not consider those times we sold players who the fans thought we would be worse off without but only got better instead
Yes for every Makelele there are DI Marias, Pepes, Robinhos Ozil and a lot of other players we let go of but got better. Yes Ronaldo would be difficult to replace and it might not be pretty but we can't bend over for him just because some midget made Barcelona his bitch Trophies galore, and we've never had a treble. And we had our first double last year since the late 50's. Makelele was doing the job of Casemiro in the OG Galactico era. Flo said he was not important in the team and didn't get a decent replacement. That eventually led to his first disgrace. Every Madridista remembers it. The club missed Ozil and Di Maria after they left. Thankfully, the GOAT was around so the adverse effect was contained. Pepe left last year and we are 17 points behind Barcelona this year. I don't find it surprising one bit that you'd compare the loss of CR7 to Ozil, Di Maria, and Pepe. Says a lot about how much you value his input. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 1:15am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: If he thinks Barcelona would pay him what Messi is earning then he should move to Barcelona If he thinks Qatar Saint Germain would pay him what Neymar is earning then he should move there too
Can you even give me source of where the club promised to increase his wages? You've been repeating this since, can you give me reputable links of official saying they "promised" him a new contract? He is not playing for Barcelona or PSG. He is playing for Madrid and has helped us win a 3 peat. While the other clubs you're talking about are paying more to leave at the QF and Ro16 stages respectively. Have some respect. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12087/11344039/cristiano-ronaldos-real-madrid-contract-to-be-improved-says-guillem-balague-Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 1:10am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: I haven't actually checked if he's granted exclusive image rights for his new contract but while Ronaldo spent 2 years earning 100% Messi was earning around 50-50, maybe he's now earning 100%. remove that info and others are correct, Ronaldo signed a contract in late 2016 so if there's a promised contract he's gotten it already
then again we can't force ourselves to pay more for Ronaldo just because Barca has made Messi his boss and Neymar plays for a country sponsored club
we are Madrid and going to the press at such a time is below the belt and shouldn't be encouraged at all, so does what Bale said about playing time. By all means discuss this behind the scenes and sort yourselves out or at least chose a better time to do that Now you're backtracking. What does number of years have to do with anything? Messi earns twice as much as Ronaldo in wages + exclusive image rights right now. Ronaldo earns 48% of what Messi earns in wages and exclusive image rights on only non-RM materials. You're calling that deserved. I'm calling that a sh*t arrangement. And no, Ronaldo has not gotten the promised contract. Geez, update your knowledge. He signed a new contract late 2016 and got commitments to renegotiation. That was after our first UCL win of this 3peat. Now, we've had two UCL wins and he's been trying to get those commitments to translate to a new offer. Madrid has agreed to give him a new offer, yet Flo is dragging his feet, while he has the time to send a rejected 140m euros offer to Mbappe. Professional players have limited clocks. Unlike the rest of us, their retirement age is not 60. He is already slowing and knows the rigors of European football may mean he has to leave by the time his contract ends. I don't see why it's so hard to give a deserved higher wage to a man who is integral to our title hopes; by integral--the man whose goals will take us to another assured UCL SF and win us games in the league. All of a sudden we're treating this like it's something others are used to. PSG gave Neymar the best contract in European football and made Mbappe the third highest paid player in Ligue 1 to advance through the Round of 16. Prior to the last 8 UCL SF run, we used to crash out to Lyon. I understand how gutted it must feel to hear his remarks when we should be celebrating. I doubt anyone was happy to hear it. We're simply saying that it shouldn't have come to this and the Board should have nipped this in the bud. That's accurate. Ronaldo has been doing behind the scenes; he even made a remark after the Tott game last year. Then the board lets it morph to a point where he had to make a comment after the UCL win. And then want to make CR7 the fall guy. It's abysmal. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 12:45am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: He's getting paid what he deserves!
He outscored them yet his poor form at the first half of the laliga season meant we were out of Laliga by January and he then went on a tear and banged in goals from January till now as we fought for top four finish!
Ronaldo is physically unable to play substantially anymore, its obvious to anyone who's watched him play, he's lost pace and now relies on positioning and reaction more. Ronaldo of 2 years ago would've scored that chance he had that Robertson caught up with him. He relies on one touch finish more than ever and gets beaten whenever he needs to take 2 or more touches before shooting when through on goal
I stand by my words, he's earning a lot already, we can't keep increasing his wages just because Messi has made Barcelona his Beetch! so either he puts in a transfer request or plays well and show his apparent decline is an anomaly
Kaka left for free to Milan even though he had 2 years left, We were paying a part of Raul and Casillas wages when they were at Schalke and Porto respectively. I would like to see how next season goes before I would support his being given another contract (not like my support is necessary)
Again my reaction is from him going to the press at such a bizarre time Paying him half the amount Messi and significantly less than Neymar gets while he offers as much if not more impact on our title hopes is not "what he deserves." If you're an entry-level accountant at KPMG and your mates at Deloitte and PwC are earning between 50-90%+ what you're earning despite you recording same or better performance metrics; you wouldn't call it deserving. CR7 deserves higher than what he is earning, and the club agrees. Your opinion here is irrelevant. The issue is why is the club not giving him the deal they say they'd give him? It's not like the club say they wouldn't give him a raise and he was trying to force it. They said they'd give him a raise and are trying to goad him; and it will have an adverse effect on the team's preparations like it did early this year. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 12:36am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: exactly! his mistake is that he was focusing on names and what the player did NOT what's happening. Ronaldo is obviously in a decline, its obvious to anyone who's watched him over the years that he can't keep the form up for the next three years so let him keep playing, honour his contract and leave. I wouldn't want another situation where we have Zidane, Beckham, Delima, Figo all earning massive wages and not able to play together and beat even relegation teams while our best player in terms of form was a 21 year old Robinho You are not making any sense. Makelele asked for a raise, Flo told him to go f*ck himself. Then he went on to buy fancy names and paid them more. Today, CR7 is asking for a raise, Flo is playing games with him. And he had already readied 320m euros to buy new fancy names who he'd likely pay more. Do you not see the similarity? Or do I have to spell it out in long paragraphs. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 12:31am On May 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: I don't know where you got all these but there's so much wrong info that I'm starting to doubt who you love more between the club and Ronaldo cuz you're making up imaginary info to buttress Ronaldo
Ronaldo signed a contract in November 2016 so I'm lost about where you got the info that they promised him a raise in 2016 when he signed a contract late that very year
OMG! you have no idea how image rights work? Club and player agree on image rights sharing, Messi and Barca share it about 50-50 while Ronaldo takes 100% of his image rights and Madrid 0% when he signed in 2016. Its funny how you don't even have the required knowledge of what you're talking about but are only responding based on emotions. Bayern are not earning anything from James Image rights as its being shared between James and Madrid. So what Ronaldo lacks in wages he more than makes up for in image rights income
Yes, Barca allowed themselves to be played by Messi and he showed how he's bigger than the entire club, earns 40% of the entire wagebill and forced them to make borderline illegal payments to him via his foundation which has an office in Buenos Aries comprising of one staff, a security who opens and locks the premises. He forced them to tweet in support of his tax evasion and made them make press conferences and campaign as support for him. This is what you want your club to become just because they gave a better farewell to Iniesta than we did for Casillas? why not just crossover there and take Ronaldo with you? some of us have been supporting the club long before we knew Ronaldo existed and saw how we kept big names who were past it and paying them ridiculous wages just because they played amazing for a while
Who exactly were screaming he should be sold? can you quote where I said Ronaldo should be sold at the Beginning of the season? I'm me, I think for myself and don't follow the herd
Lol, I said he should honour his contract and leave at the end of it or find a club to sign him, how does that mean I changed my opinion from one minute to the next? He's playing less and less games, needs more time between games to recover and gets subbed more while earning a lot more than he did before. Go to Barca and take him with you. we the fans would survive without him and get capable replacement or change playstyle to fit
Yes I'm sounding disrespectful and its intended cuz I'm disappointed at his words after winning the biggest trophies. what he did leaves a bitter taste in the mouth and we can't bend to player's wishes just because they took it to the press. what happens next? Ramos wants to earn as much as Messi then takes it to the press? Marcelo does the same? Modrić does the same? you're bound to face a slippery slope if you give in to demands of players at the detriment of the club's finance just because he was important in a winning team Stop making untrue statements. Ronaldo takes 100% of all image rights that does not relate to Real Madrid. And Messi's new contract gives him exclusive image rights. Not the 50:50 you are mentioning. Better update your knowledge before discussing such issues. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 12:18am On May 28, 2018*. Modified: 9:59am On May 29, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: I'm against their giving him a pay raise as he just signed a 5 year deal last season or so. do we need him? yes but its not like he's paying for free right now and he's the highest earning footballer in the world in terms of overall income. he's been playing less and less matches compared to before (played only 66% of league games) while earning more and more in wages
He should spend the remaining 3 years and leave, Madrid is bigger than a single player Oga, pay him what he deserves and stop talking about overall income, like it's the club paying him that extra income. He plays less because he is being conserved for the UCL. And while playing less, he outscores younger players who play more matches. Total goals this season Messi: 45 Ronaldo:44 Salah:44 Zidane begged him to play less, so it's not like he is physically unable to play substantially. It's a tactical decision. Moreover, the club is looking to reduce our reliance on him as we transition to a post-CR7 future, so it makes sense for us to play him in only the most important games. You say he should play for 3 years and leave. So you are willing to risk featuring an unhappy superstar of CR7's stature in the RM dressing room. You think an unhappy CR7 will score 10+ goals per season in the UCL. You want an unmotivated CR7 to lead the team. All this penny wise, pound fool suggestions. You think the club will save money with an unmotivated Ronaldo. Better sell him. The crisis at the beginning of the season was partly due to this. Now you want it to continue for 3 years. That trophyless haul you think you're avoiding is what you are guaranteeing; and you'd pay 21m to him annually to keep failing. After the Leganes game, when we were playing like crap, and everyone had already written the season off, when Zidane was taking blames, and tempers were flaring; this was Ronaldo's tweet: “ Cheer up team. Cheer up madridistas. We still have many battles to win.” Now we have won the UCL in a 3 peat; and all of a sudden he should play for 3 years and leave. The arrogance! Myopia par excellence! -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 11:54pm On May 27, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: Yes it sounds harsh but I wouldn't want to go through what we went through pre Calderon in which we had a team filled with big names who are old and overpaid compared to the effort they put in, we went 3 years without a single trophy while paying massive wages to has beens and firing coaches like we're changing clothed. Ronaldo can't keep this up till 36 and even you know he's been declining over the years. This is a Madrid thread and one should be able to say what one means bluntly. its obvious Ronaldo is trying to use the fans and press as leverage to force Madrid's hand like Messi did to Barca
The club comes first. soja go soja come na barrack go remain Whose fault was that? Was it not this same Flo who decided to sell Makelele because he asked for a deserved raise and said he was useless. Instead he was going to buy newer fancy players the club didn't need and paying them several multiples of what Makelele was requesting. That was how Makelele left, who was the anchor of the team (like Busquest is to Barca), and Flo lost the Presidency and destabilized the club. Now he is back and has started that st*pid nonsense. Playing games with the club's highest goalscorer while he wants to buy two less influential players for more. And you are supporting him. Yes, the club comes first. So sell him if you can't meet his demands. Don't play games like a crook. A club of Madrid's stature shouldn't be acting like AIT. Makelele got him disgraced from the club the first time around. This CR7 case will eventually lead to his banishment. Florentino is not the club. The club is bigger than Perez. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 11:44pm On May 27, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: Why does it have to be "Pay him or tell him he's not needed anymore?" what happened to his present contract? its not like he's playing for free presently and makes a lot more from image rights than Messi and Neymar
Also you're comparing his wages to that of Messi who held out till his contract was 6 months left to sign? a player that the club members said he's already signed only for him to come out and say no? who they had to pay his father to convince him to sign? a player that has turned bigger than Barcelona as a club and a director was fired simply for saying they won't keep renewing his contract. a player that the club tweeted in support of his tax evasion #weareallmessi? are you comparing Madrid to that immature scum of a club that bends over backwards just because of a single player? Messi alone earns 40% of the entire revenue of Barca in wages and asides that they give him tax free money on top by donating money to the Messi foundation which goes straight to messi's pocket indirectly
we are not Barca, we are bigger and we can't do like them just because some player was able to turn them to his subordinate.
As for Neymar, he was a statement buy who wouldn't have gone to PSG for any other reason than a ludicrous wage accompanied by several other side benefits. PSG also bent over backwards for him although he plays for a state sponsored club with virtually bottomless money who can afford to pay him 30M per week if they want to
I'm against giving him anymore raise, he should honour his contract and leave when exhausted or look for a club that can pay him on par with Messi and ready to fork over hundreds of millions of euros in transfer fee. he's 33, already playing less and less games each season and our revenues aren't increasing, it even decreased last season by 25 whole %
This might sound harsh to say about a club legend but football is still a business and we have to manage our wagebill too or we'd turn to Barca What is this diatribe? He makes more from image rights than Messi and Neymar? And so? Does your company pay you your salary based on how much you make from alternate sources (side gigs)? Then you talk about Neymar's case and did not say anything about Mbappe's case. Club revenue is decreasing and we're bidding 360m euros for two players who individually contribute less to their club than CR7 does to Madrid. How ungrateful can you get? Barca is a scum club, yet they treated Iniesta like the hero he is, while Madrid trashed Casillas. Tufiakwa. Football is a business, so a performing superstar with only a few years left shouldn't ask for a deserved raise. I suppose it's a business for the club only, and not for the player. Anyway, Ronaldo has told Flo to work out the modalities that he is leaving. It was always going to come to this. If the club get mind mk them bench am for all the games out of spite until 2021. Since it is his contract. You guys were screaming that he should be sold at the beginning of the season. If he is so expensive and unnecessary, sell him. That's all he asked. It's not like he's going to play forever. Just cash out now mk everybody mind rest! One minute, you want the club to sell him and cut our losses. The next you want the club to keep him against his wish and ignore his wage demands. Can't believe what I'm reading. He is part of the 3 peat team. He scores 50%+ of our UCL goals every season. He is the G.O.A.T. Then you say he doesn't deserve a raise after he has been promised going back to 2016. If your employer promises you a raise for 2 years and fails to give you that raise while you keep proving your mettle and surpassing expectations, would you be all fine and dandy? Football is a business! Like CR7 is not a businessman too. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 9:18pm On May 27, 2018 |
MoR2: here is a true real Madrid fan 
cheers to all those who stood by Zidane I don't understand. Zidane made mistakes in the transfer window and in the first half of the season. Those mistakes cost us the League and Copa del Rey. Things weren't working, and yet he was saying he wouldn't make changes. In the end he made changes. And those changes and an up tick in form won us the UCL. We are 17 points behind Barca. 17! Our plan this year was to win a treble. Let's not forget that. So as amazing as the 3 peat is, we shouldn't forget that we made costly mistakes that we paid dearly for, and that we shouldn't repeat this time around. In fact, right now, I don't envy Zidane and the Board. The task ahead of them is very tough. Most Madridistas have the attention span of a goldfish. Let our first 3 matches of next season be WDL and Barca be WWW, and you'd see how bad the reactions would be. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 4:47pm On May 27, 2018 |
usbcable: Bros na one trade mark secret. LordAdamX.
We need to increase the security levels of this our confidential weapon.
Too many people looking for it. Don't mind them. After insulting us, downplaying our achievements, supporting every team that oppose us; they are coming to tell us to leave the UCL for them? How? Why? Even ATH that we were supporting to win Marseille, that Flo called their President to wish them luck, were hoping we lose. Make we continue to use luck/black magic/voodoo dey win more trophies. Dem neva c anything. Funny people! Our confidential weapon dey out of reach both physically and financially. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 10:49am On May 27, 2018 |
usbcable: Dear madridistas
What do you think of the title thread? Great! -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 1:28am On May 27, 2018 |
madrid5: that is why he is trying to get attention on this special night If they didn't want him to use this special night as a platform to voice his displeasure, they should have done the right thing and given him a deserved raise before the final. Like way before the final. Like after the Cardiff final. He is not beholden to anyone. Earlier this season when he wasn't in form, the majority of Madridistas in a poll asked the club to sell him. Flo used that as an excuse (plus the media sh*t about his decline) to stifle his raise. Let's not even talk about the fans' gaffe. He knows Flo will not hesitate to give him the Casillas treatment if it fits his plan. Because that's how this is playing out. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 1:19am On May 27, 2018 |
madrid5: failed him how They said they'd offer him an improved wage before Cardiff. Then they said last summer. They didn't. Instead the club made a 140m euro offer for Mbappe; which Mbappe rejected (a senior PSG exec confirmed in an interview earlier this month). In Nov 2017, after the Tottenham defeat, he said he wouldn't renew if the offer wasn't good enough. He's told Flo and other senior members he's leaving at the season's end months back. Yet Flo decided to ignore his demand, but has apparently sourced funds for a 220m euro Neymar buy. Messi - 40m Neymar - 35m Ronaldo - 21m The gap is too wide for a GOAT who has won the UCL 3 times in a row, scoring the most goals every season. This is a player who has a $1b Nike deal. He has won everything there is to win, is in the last few years of his career. Pay him or tell him he isn't needed anymore. Don't toy with him like he is in servitude, because you put a 1b euro release clause in his contract. And then try to make him the bad guy by forcing him to make statements like these when we should be celebrating. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 12:26am On May 27, 2018 |
Miremoses1: they should give him what he wants before the start of next season. Wd don't need set backs anymore Read the Twitter thread of his remarks https://twitter.com/Ultra_Suristic/status/1000514427689500672"Real Madrid was already the best in history & now we have made more. I have nothing to talk to Florentino, I salute you as a good professional as I am and you are. I know what I've given to this club." He's clearly pissed at Flo. Don't blame him one bit. They've been pushing him. -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 12:23am On May 27, 2018 |
Lordemperoris100: Hala Madrid
Madrid always giving me birthday gift every may..
am +1 today Happy birthday mate! -Lord |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by LordAdamX: 12:06am On May 27, 2018 |
Miremoses1: it's seems CR7 will leave to. I don't know what's happening.
The way he sounded in his post match speech Maybe they all want to leave on a high like Xavi and Iniesta did. PS: In CR7's case, it might be just a ploy to get a raise. It's this nonsense that Flo did with Makelele. It partly ruined our domestic season. You promise a player a raise after the Cardiff final, then you start playing games. They even promised him a raise before this final, yet nothing. Now they'd continue the jamboree hoping his form dips again so they can use that as an excuse to delay the raise. It may just be business, but it's sickening. -Lord |