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Emusan:
Not a proof.

For instance, many ancient tribes have giants in their storyline.

It is. Read again the definition of evolution you were given.

So what if they had tales of giants? Where is the physical evidence?

Of course everyone knows that's what evolutionists mean but what right thinking people are saying is that, for such to happen, there must be a change to human gene like what will make human to develop wings or something else which was never be part of our gene.

Yes there could be a gene develop that could make us grow wings but it won't happen tomorrow and the environment has to favour that change for it to propagate into the population. The kind of changes that are more likely are to the shape our skulls, bone density, limb length, lung capacity, thoracic size and so on. This is because we can see things already happening like our brains becoming bigger, changes in nutrient availability, changes in air quality and so on. Its not magic. Nobody is telling you humans will become flying monkeys tomorrow.

If one to be around during the evolution of fish, what will the people see?

No single person would have seen it happen all at once but if they had been keeping records of the changes they would see something like the attached picture.

Where you're missing it is, between the transition, what will people observed?

For instance, your ancestors who continue to change, they are not human and whatever they are at that time started from something. Do they start with having two legs, one eye or even no nose at a time or just one leg, two ears e.t.c

If evolution is true, transition from those things that evolved million years before human would have been taken place by now and be observed.

That's is my point.

The common ancestor of humans, apes and monkeys was a mammal that already had four limbs, 2 eyes, 1 nose, 1 mouth, 2 ears, a tail and other anatomical features you can see on any mammal. If there were people to observe and record the changes they would have see the tail get shorter and shorter till it is no longer visible. The spine will change curvature as bipedal motions becomes more and more used rather than going on all fours. Skull shape will be changing because the brain is getting bigger and diet is changing. Fingers, thumbs and toes change shape because of more terrestrial dwelling than arboreal. And so on and so forth. These changes will be observed over several million years not at once like a magic show.

What transition do you think we should have observed by now?

Emusan:
Good!

Why those things that evolved millions years(as the lies evolutionists always tell) before human evolved aren't observed to have evolved to another thing?

Because evolution is not goal oriented. We aren't evolving toward a predefined goal. We evolve as a result of environmental pressures, so when a specie evolves into its environmental niche and that niche remains largely unchanged then you don’t see drastic changes. We see this happen over and over again.

I heard of a specie of lizard that was an insect feeder that was taken to an environment that was very insect poor. The lizard start developing into a plant feeder. The jaws and teeth developed more in line with that of a herbivore. You can read more about that here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepidosaur_herbivory

Emusan:
Growth has been part of living things, it's not a proof for evolution.

The same part of Europe that are getting taller can be grown smaller in few years time.

Have you recorded transition of one animal to another thing as you claim about living things evolution on earth?

It is proof of evolution. The problem is you folk think evolution is a magic show where a person will suddenly sprout wings. We have hammered it over and over again it is the gene characteristics of the population of a species that changes and accumulates over successive generations. You will never see a monkey give birth to a human and no one who understands evolution will ever tell you that that is what happens. Our common ancestor continued to change and speciate to give rise to the branches of the clade that includes humans, apes, monkeys, etc. There is no magical leap from monkey to human or anything of the sort.

Emusan:
What I meant by "at the same time" is if human and tree evolution started at the same time.

If it's not. For instance; it means, either trees evolved first then human or human evolved first before trees.

Do you understand?

Ok I understand.

Yes trees evolved before humans so yeah some species will emerge before others even though all living things are evolving.

Emusan:
Good!

Do all living things on earth go through the process of evolution?

Do all living things evolve at the same time?

Yes all living things evolve. I don't know what you mean by "at the same time" but they are all evolving, some more rapidly than others.

Emusan:
How does evolution work?

Evolution is the change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. It occurs when evolutionary processes such as natural selection and genetic drift act on genetic variation, resulting in certain characteristics becoming more or less common within a population over successive generations. The more these changes occur and accumulate the more diversity you get.

Emusan:
So you can't provide just a single evidence where one animal has evolved to another.

That is not how evolution works, you've been told this over and over again.

Emusan:
What is ToE?

Theory of Evolution.

Emusan:
This lie has already expired.

Evolution takes millions years yet there's no single proof to support that and you believe it.

Also, there are millions of animals in our world today, we can then ask:

Do they evolve at the same time? If the answer is No!

Then we should be seen real evolution in various animals today not that only human.

Publish your findings in a scientific journal or win a Noble Prize for overturning the ToE.

Infotubia9ja:
Okay please I just want you all to please keep an open mind to this and I am as much as human as every one of you but this is my story and today I want to come out with this tell me what you think.
I don't know where this topic fits right so I just decided to put it here.

Ever since I was a child I will say I started taking note of this in my early age of 9 to 12 if I am correct. Every night I mean every single night, if I look up in the dark skies I am able to 100% tell the difference between starts and this entity i will call it. I see them every where in the sky.
It all started one night in kaduna state where I was born. You know as Nepa dey useless every night na as. So if room don hot my late mom may her soul rest in peace. She will tell my dad to take me and the rest of my siblings outside so she spray bug killer then lock door. So we all will be outside with my parent and my bro and sis. When ever I look up, I am able to see the shining moving object like they are able to transform and move their location like speed of light.
I.e it moves so fast like speeding bullet from point A to B but while it moves, I can see it's moment patters like fast.
Now when I ask any other person around me if they see what I see, they think am having a section of mental break down of some sort nobody believes me so I just stopped and ignored it thinking It was all in my head. Then finally during my 16th birthday immediately after my 16th birthday I noticed an even more advanced level of this thing I could feel more things as well.

I could now
1, I could feel their presence in the sky even when they are not visible.
2 I could summon them at will by just using my mind to call them and they show up some time one sometimes in buck at once scattered all around and I see them all at once.
3 I could tell them to go and come at will
4, when they feel I am not in a good mood they just come and chill and let me know their presence that they are there and they stay for hours before they go
Previously I could tell them to go but now sometimes even when I tell them to go they don't listen sometimes they just stay until they feel my calm before they go.

Now for the past five days I was so very sick I was thinking I was going to die because it was so strong it's a flu but very bad on me I have had it multiple times but this one was bad.
And I could fell them all alot of them hovering around my roof I knew they were there but I wasn't strong to get up to go look but I knew they were communicating with me.
5, I am able to astral project and leave my body to go see what my future is like and it has been like that how I see it when I astral project I didn't know it was what it's called because I was scared I was thinking I was a wizard but it is always only me and nobody else so I said to myself it's my coven. I can move my body from one timeliness to another to see my future for a day ahead.
But I cant do it as often anymore.
I can communicate with earth like I know what I need to do when I have issues like easy it just comes to me when I ask for it.
And so many more.

Now back to the topic at hand. I have been telling my wife and kids of lately that I have been seeing this objects more in the sky but they don't see when they look up it's just stars to them what I see they don't see.

So I had to prove to myself I am not mad. I saved up my money and bought myself a Samsung Galaxy ultra mainly to prove my madness and behold I am right.
I took videos and I am able to zoom if you look closely it looks like a door open door to a different location I see.
I have the videos but I don't know where to post for you all to see so I took picture and made a video and zoomed and took a short
What do you all think about this.
Abi I no be normal human I be...or I dey mad ni

The first one is the picture after I surmmond this one and I could tell the difference between him and the stars in the sky.

These are probably out of focus pictures of planetary bodies. Nothing special.

Maxymilliano:
https://dailytrust.com/angry-youths-loot-seyi-tinubus-ramadan-palliative-in-gombe/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJOV25leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHU6Bwrpk1uXDwo3vHP4wIh9jsRpgBxrvESGI395Ni01UaF6QiFJ42F6e3g_aem_DRDGucx_KX512ys4-pE3mA

Are they sure it wasn't hungry youths? LoLz

Gabrielshow24:
The example you cited of the aggregation of unicellular organisms is micro.

If you don't know, you don't know!!!
If indeed, a new specie or multicellular organism evolved then it will be a perfect example of macro😂😂😂 but since there's no direct observational proof for macro evolution, you can't help but to say rubbish 🤧!!!

Your first reply was perfect but your foolishness just couldn't help it!!! 😂😂😂

This is why it is pointless showing a phoney like you anything. You didn’t read it, you went instead to your creationist quacks to read junk. Go look at real scientists work and stop LARPing with junk put out by quacks.

jaephoenix:
So lets assume there's no verifiable direct observations on macro evolutions….
Now answer these….
1. Do you believe the Bible stories, yes or no? This is a yes or no question. No heehaws or bush-beating. If yes, why do u, since there is no direct observational proofs?
2. What do you understand as macro evolution? Lets start from here

He doesn’t know the meaning of macro evolution. For someone to say moving from unicellular to multicellular is micro evolution, you know the person is a phoney.

MaxInDHouse:
You can't fight it my friend.

You fought/argued in support of true faith because you sensed that something is wrong even though you are confused due to the fact that you yourself don't have faith.

Look at these comments they are from atheists like you:





Of course these atheists don't find anything sound regarding faith but their comments says it all: they raised their voices in support of true faith just as you did!

Guy stop acting delusional. Someone complimenting you doesn't mean you are divine nor does somone defending you. You are so lost you can't even recognise simple human decency.

Stop getting high on your own farts.

MaxInDHouse:
"the first time I saw such misinformation against a group"

Well that's what FAITH has to do with you!

Jesus said:

If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you. Keep in mind the word I said to you: A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have observed my word, they will also observe yours.  But they will do all these things against you on account of my name, because they do not know the One who sent me. John 15:18-21

This person is talking to who and just as you said why is it that you felt so touched that you begin to fight back despite the fact that you know why they are all speaking against just one group who are also using the same book with them?

Abeg jor carry you yeye comot here. I stated my reason if you want to lie to yourself go ahead but don't involve me.

MaxInDHouse:
So why is it that the first time you will be arguing in favour of a group of religionists it's only JWs?

Because that was probably the first time I saw such misinformation against a group in this section.

MaxInDHouse:
But you kept arguing in favour of a group claiming others are lying against them because you know about their faith or because you don't know about their faith?

Your faith was irrelevant. It could have been Ifa worshippers, and I would have said the same thing.

MaxInDHouse:
You may not have faith but that's what faith means.
According to the Bible:

Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

All your posts on that thread is about how JWS DEMONSTRATES what they are saying by actions while none of those speaking against them can present any group doing something close.

Ọmọ that's what REAL FAITH is all about!

Oga this has nothing to do with anything I said in that thread.

MaxInDHouse:
You really fought those churchgoers on that thread.
Well that's what it means to recognize real faith because they're all fighting against what they can't really explain.
On your part that was commendable!

Stop lying to yourself. I clearly stated it was about truth not faith or religion.

MaxInDHouse:
This is all i expected from you!

Here is the thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/5192280/hypocrisy-jehovah-witnesses

MaxInDHouse:
What misinformation was WRITTEN about Jehovah's Witnesses so that it's you who doesn't believe in what they practice had to defend?

This is one ofthe reasons I am afraid for you, you think you need to believe the same thing as me to turn away what is is wrong. I hope someday you aren't there when your neighbour's child is being abducted and all you say is "well, they don't believe what I believe therefore I won't do anything."

I do not need to believe what you believe to tell someone they are wrong about you if they are.

When I find the thread, I will call your attention to it.

MaxInDHouse:
In a nutshell you DEFENDED faith even though you don't believe in having faith.
That shows there is wisdom in faith which makes you see reasons why you need to defend those having true faith.
Thanks!

That is not what I said to you so don't start your lies. I defended JWs when misinformation was being written about them. Has nothing to do with your faith or your religion.

GloriousGbola:
Before you swallow this bs, read on gun laws in San Francisco.

This is Jesse smollet levels of bs.

This has been reported on multiple right wing channels and yet the so called activist with a very odd looking hand gun has not been identified?

Even the trans community would be calling the person out

The implication is that this assailant just happened to be carrying a gun for no reason in a city with strict gun control laws and then decided on the spur of the moment to threaten a preacher on the street.

A completely 'random' encounter

SMH. The funny thing is I wouldn't put it past a Christian to stage it. They like stories of make believe on a whole different level.

MaxInDHouse:
You could have explained what you meant by saying you defended Jehovah's Witnesses nah!

I explained it to you.

MaxInDHouse:
You're welcome anytime Mr Atheist defender of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Trust you to twist it to suit your narrative. LoLz.

MaxInDHouse:
Defender of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Thank you.

Lucifyre:
Can a "scientist" miss something so basic and make this sort of daft statement : "why haven't we seen an ape evolve to man?". Probably a slip of tongue and he meant herbalist.

The guy likes babbling nonsense confidently. LoLz.

jaephoenix:
Psychotic patients always see stuff nobody sees. I guess the dude is one of them

LoLz. He certainly needs help.

jaephoenix:
Hang on! There is a research on creation? Why don't they just read the damn Bible?

Don't mind them. They form scientific research but their own isto twist science to try and fit whatever narrative they have. Like what the dunce quoted, they just pulled out its fake from their arse.

MaxInDHouse:
Many atheists on this forum are worried after discussing with me for instance the atheist LordReed once said he defended JWs!
Can you imagine that?
Well that is after pondering over how i've been putting meaning to what those churches taught them in times past that got all of them pissed off now they having a rethink over what the Bible says.
I can tell you the first thing that got the guy thinking twice.
Many people are saying JWs are false prophets for anticipating God's Kingdom since the year 1914 but when i said it's not a crime because John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth both said God's Kingdom is at hand some 2,000 years ago yet God's Kingdom is not here so whoever calls JWs false prophets for their anticipation should also call both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth false prophets too because both of them said God's Kingdom is at hand yet it's now 2000 years since they both walked this planet.

I expected any interested person to ask questions regarding this but since no one feels like asking i kept the knowledge!

WTF are you on about? What did what I said have anything to do with your gibberish? Worried about you? No I'm worried for you so that you don’t become a liability to society.

Gabrielshow24:
Whatever you say Dundi😂😂😂

Sure slowpoke. LoLz.

ikuku:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/21/sport/george-foreman-boxing-heavyweight-great-dead-spt/index.html

Rest In Peace sir. Valar Morghulis.