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basilico:
That one? Muh first two words is that its a conspiracy theory . Which means I knew it was BS.
You got an F in grammar, I think that's one area you need to work on.

LoLz! Now you want to act like you were not seriously stating it.

basilico:
I'm not a student of grammar, typo ,if you got the meaning Well and good

Wot conspiracy theory do i spin?
Its only that if it's been effectively refuted.

I will recall one of you many debunked lies.

Here is one:

basilico:
Conspiracy theory.How come only high ranking Republicans get covid at the most inconvenient time.

basilico:
Trying so hard schillng for him. You are pathetic.
He loves Obama and Bernie Sanders.

LoLz. You must be so drunk you can't even spell shilling correctly. Bwahahahahahaha!

So? He still was a conspiracy theorist like you.

Thankgodiyke:
I used to hear of scam through fake alert I have never experienced it before until three days ago when this young looking couple came to my wife's shop to buy things. I usually go to pick my wife from shop when I close from my own business. On that fateful day around 8.pm her Gen went off as fuel got exhausted and so is the CCTV camera so their faces were not captured she was actually balancing her account and arranging to close for the day whey they came appearing all friendly and chatty and they picked some items everything amounted to 12k and they requested for Cash of 10k totaling 22k. They requested for account no and my wife called out her monie point account and the lady said she can't find monie point and requested for another bank account and my wife called out her GTB account she called the account name and said it was successful and flash the screen to my wife's face. My wife said they will have to wait for confirmation she logged in through her app and couldn't see anything. Meanwhile the guy was coughing seriously and the lady started complaining that her baby is crying in the car and ask to drop her phone no. After some time
I asked my wife to let them go out of my good heart and concern for the baby in the car that it could be network problem that is causing the delay after getting their contact. We got home I asked my wife to check she said nothing is in her account my wife decided to Dial that number surprising her Truecaller app brought out her name as 'Onye ohi Rice' meaning Rice thief that was when it dawn on us that we have been scammed. Since that day we have tried plenty times to call and chat the num on Whatsapp but no response. This is the number 08105384984 registered as Ifeanyi Nwakaibeya. I have refunded my wife the money though but I'm really sad that such young people go about stealing from people. Nairalanders I know it's a small change but I wish I can get this guy and lady and deal with them.

Sorry for your unfortunate experience but you might not be able to get them to bring some justice. However I suggest you continue to spread that number to your network just in case someone happens across them.

Trueprophet91:
You can't know what you don't know...
To you, He's non-existent because you don't know Him.
Joke is on your ignorant ass

On you dumbo, claiming to know a non existent being. You are like a child who believes Superman is real because he saw it in a book. What a slow poke.

Trueprophet91:
That's why I said you know nothing

The joke is on you

Nope on you, worshipper of a non-existent being.

TenQ:
Caught in your own web of ignorance : show us the physical proof of mathematics.

Is 1+2=3 the proof of mathematics?

You really should go back to kindergarten so that they'll show you using number blocks. With that your block head you need it. Bwahahahahaha!

Trueprophet91:
You know nothing

More than you I'd wager. For instance I know your god can't do more than a dead church rat.

basilico:
I will never tire trying to get you out the leftist bubble enclosing you.
The guy Azzarallo has died. This was taken off his Instagram.

What?? Don’t f—king resist Donald Trump! REJECT Donald Trump. Laugh at the rotten farce of an idea of Donald Trump having any power over you. F—kin duh,” Azzarallo wrote.

Like he can be both things. He still was a conspiracy theorist much like you. Did you see the picture of him holding up a sign that Joe Biden and Donald Trump are working hand in hand? That's where you people's lies are going to land some people, mental illness or harmful actions.

triplechoice:
You're chatting with someone who doesn't know what's a proof of something. He only knows one thing and doesn't know that proof is synonymous with demonstration.

He wants to see a picture of intelligence before he accepts someone in front of him is demonstrating intelligence through what they say and do

He's a fucķing clown. I have had enough of his clown though, I'm outta here. LoLz.

TenQ:
Is Mathematics the abstract science of number, quantity, and space, either as abstract concepts ( pure mathematics ), or as applied to other disciplines such as physics and engineering ( applied mathematics or what is written on paper ?

Stupidity!
What is the proof of mathematics?

Can you please show me mathematics because I want to give some to my wife?

Now I know you are on a stupid clown show. Bwahahahahaha!

TenQ:
See how stupid your articulation sounds.

I have not even once related software in a machine to soul or spirit. All I've been knocking into your thick skulls is that
1. There are REAL existences that are not TANGIBLE!
2. Anything that is TANGIBLE must have either a mass , a dimension or energy and can relate with time.
3. It is stupidity to require a Physical proof of that which is not tangible.
4. I gave other examples of INTANGIBLES that are nevertheless REAL
a. LOGIC
b. MATHEMATICS
c. INFORMATION
d. LIFE
5. Then I gave a challenge for you to find a physical means (measurement of mass, dimension, energy) by which you can measure these real intangibles like Software, Logic, Mathematica nd Information

Unfortunately, I see that Atheists are the most shallow human beings who think Softwares in a Machine is tangible.

No wonder, atheists reach nonsensical positions which is the manifestation of their shallow minds


Sorry, I am not to give pearls to Pigs.

Again my Challenge to Atheists:
1. If an existence is not tangible i.e. cannot be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time, does it prove it doesn't exist?
2. Is a software within a machine REAL or not?
3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means?
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?

LoLz. Mathematics doesn't have physical proof? You are a fucķing clown. Bwahahahahaha!

budaatum:
My Lord, you read the examples that I did not write that I posted. So you tell me if a "conflict of Choice’s street scenes", and "tangible, relevant information", are tangible or not, and if not, let us both go and tell those who have suggested they are to correct themselves.

In response to your question, a patent can be both tangible and intangible, depending on the aspect referred to and the purpose. If I sell you a patent, I likely will be placing in your hands something you can touch.

You and I need to someday discuss the concept of duality, and how it imposes the notion of either or on thought.

Indeed we need to do that to discussion my dear buda.

Jokerman:
Fools...

There's only one God. The creator of heaven and the earth.

Don't allow fallen angels deceive y'all

If it was Christians now you would have been saying this is evidence of your god.

Trueprophet91:
Okay,hear this...


There's only one true and living God!
It's abomination for any nation to worship any of em dead gods.

Your god is just as dead as the others.

basilico:
Must be a raging liberal.

Why are you denying your fellow conspiracy theorist na.

This is where you people and lying will lead some people.

budaatum:
You are very funny, my Lord.

You don't need to make a sentence about sounds you sense (touch) with your ears. The point is, if he had not made sounds that you could sense, hence that were tangible, you would not have heard him.

Note the below.



You can not literally touch the "tension in a room". All you can do is sense and/or feel it, which, non-literally speaking, is the same as touching it with your ears. Be aware that there is no reason why one must be literal, and you know buda often isn't.

Below are other examples of untouchable things that are described as tangible.



You can not touch a "tangible impact on search". You can not touch a "conflict of Choice’s street scenes". You definitely can not touch "tangible, relevant information" Etc. All you can do is sense (feel) them.

The image in a mirror and the sound of the person in a room, are way more senseable (touchable with one's eyes or ears) than some things described since you can see the image in the mirror with your eyes and hear the sound with your ears.

I touched your comment above by sensing it with my eyes and with my mind because you made your intangible thought tangible for me to touch it. If you had not made your comment above tangible for me to touch it with my senses, the only way I would be reading it is with my mind reader.

One last try. Is a patent tangible or intangible?

TenQ:
You did NOT answer them sir!

Questions:
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?

Keep Knocking your thick skull against it understanding seems to be trickling into your brain that way. Go back to my answers to 4 and 5 along with the other one I quoted to you, Knock your head against them some more.

jaephoenix:
The guy probably doesn't know how genetics, embryology etc works. And definitely knows nothing about any miracle. His idea of science is what his pastor tells him

I think for some of them they have to act ignorant or else it would make them question their faith a little too deeply or shine a light where they don't want it to.

budaatum:
Yes I would. So long as I can use my ears to 'touch' the words you speak, your words are tangible.

Let me complicate it for you my Lord, to further confuse you.

The thoughts in my head are tangible to me because I can 'perceive' and feel my thoughts with my mind even though I can not touch my thoughts with my hands.

The thoughts in my head are intangible to you because you can not perceive or feel the thoughts in my mind.

No my dear buda, how can you say sounds are tangible. Just make a sentence with it. I heard his tangible sounds coming from next door. C'mon!

TenQ:
Why then is it difficult to answer these two questions


Questions:
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?

Because I already answered them.

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budaatum:
There. Though Unknown's defines it better, as does wiki.

Another example. If I physical was with you and spoke to you would you call my words you are hearing tangible?

budaatum:
There. Though Unknown's defines it better, as does wiki.

So as we can see touch is the central characteristic for determing if it is tangible or not. A mirror's image is NOT tangible since it cannot be touched. Even Wiki gives touch as central to it being tangible or not.

budaatum:
The image in a mirror is tangible because it can be perceived with the senses.

Do me a solid and post the meaning of tangible from the same source you used for intangible.

KnownUnknown:
After seven pages and all the software shenanigans, I conclude that intangibility is another attribute of this spirit thing.

The working definition of spirit is “non physical, invincible, and intangible” aka nothing

7 pages of round and round arguments about semantics with no point on what spirit is or how we can know it exists. Sounds exactly like nothing.

budaatum:
It would, my Lord, especially if you limit yourself to the most basic meaning.

Below is a definition that includes the use of all the senses, which is obviously far more than just that of touching.

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/intangible

So is the image in the mirror tangible or intangible.

TenQ:
budaatum refuses to learn even with correction.

And of course you know this and that is why you refuse to answer my question 4 and 5

Anything that is tangible will have at least one of these properties: mass, spatial dimension (length), Energy. This is what make it perceivable which physical senses hence which can be shown and touched and experienced.
There is not one single equipment other than with another software with which one can even perceive a software code.



Tell me you don't understand the implications of these two questions below?
Questions:
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?

It is you who doesn't understand the implications of this answer:

LordReed:
You cannot measure intangible things directly because surprise they are intangible.

to those questions. Think some more.

ocnovakmichael:
May be that is not an intelligent response, but an intelligent man says he's not had a miracle ever in his life and all you intelligentsias agree.

Miracle is the divine intervention in the course of life. His birth was a function of divine intervention yes or no?

Think about that!

Are you an illiterate who doesn't know about how human reproduction works? How is a sperm fertilising an ovum and producing a child 9 months later a miracle? At what point does this divine intervention enter into the equation in reproduction? When the god was watch the man fuçk his wife?

budaatum:
My Lord, tangible does not only mean touch. It also means feel, see, hear, etc.

If you can observe the "images on a screen or mirror", then those images on a screen or mirror are tangible in their own right since you can see and observe it, which you could not possibly do if it were intangible.

I do not need to "directly touch the software itself" in the machine, though I can argue that I could if I wanted to since I could very easily decompile the software so I can see it, which is what one does if one wants to debug the code in the machine. The point is that I must write tangible code in a tangible format on a tangible medium and tangibly give it to a tangible compiler to convert it to machine readable code that some are here claiming is intangible. I can even decompile the machine readable code back into its tangible human readable code, which I am arguing can not be done if the code in the machine is not tangible in itself.

Just think. I can be sitting here in my home instructing you in my mind to stick your fingers in your eyes, but the intangibility of that instruction would be obvious because you would neither see nor hear nor feel it in anyway and would not be able to follow the instruction in my mind. But as soon as I make the intangible instruction in my mind tangible for you to hear or read or see, you will be able to either follow it or tell me to go do one.

The contention here is the tangibility of the code when it is in the machine, but that to me sounds like asking me to prove with my naked eye that there is machine code in the machine, which is simply oxymoronic since I am not limited to proving anything only with my naked eyes and not with all my other senses.

No my dear buda it only refers to touch.

TenQ:
Since you do not have an answer, go sleep

LoLz. Use those 2 remaining cells so you stop knocking your thick skull against something so simple.

budaatum:
Software may indeed produce non-physical effects (though that does depend on the effect you mean), but the software itself must physically exist for it to produce any effect at all.

Just think. If I were to give you a software called Microsoft Windows, you will be receiving physical code, be it on a disk or downloaded. I can't just think it in my head and give it to you.

Same as thoughts. I can think in my head what I am writing here, but until I make my thoughts physical on here for you to receive and read, you'd have nothing whatsoever to respond to.

Same as air we breathe too, which we can not see with the naked eye, but can detect with other senses.

Do be aware that when they say "see", I read 'detect' with any of the other senses. I don't just have to look with my eyes, since I can smell with my nose, and hear with my ears, and feel with my hands etc, and I can even enhance those senses so they "see" better what one can not see with the naked eye.

However, they have not yet told me how they enhance any of their senses so they see the spirits they claim they "see".

My dear buda we have had a discussion along this line in the past. Remember when we spoke about images on a screen or mirror? Those images are intangible, you cannot physical touch them but you can carry the medium they are on. It is the same with software. You can physically carry the medium it's on but you cannot directly touch the software itself.