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Anaybira:
...ok answer the question.

Which question haven't I answered? Meanwhile I asked you a question and you started getting pissy. LoLz.

Anaybira:
you bro LordReed has helped you a lot, we had nice discussion, dodging his natural inclination. So do you agree with him all along? If so, then you can also help him out. I think he his stuck.

LoLz. You the believer in fairytale is the one stuck, in the past.

Anaybira:
We ask him how *something* that already existed was brought into existence without being created by something?

Because something has always existed, it only changes form. Read up on the laws of conservation of mass and energy.

Anaybira:
I don't think the answer is relevant to someone who is still fighting against his natural inclination as to what he deemed to exist were SURELY brought to existence by something.

LoLz! Said by someone who believes an Arabian fairytale. Bwahahahahahaha!

budaatum:
We need to keep watch on conspiracists basiloco!

Yeah let's put basilico on a watch list.

Anaybira:
Even though it is not always true but, but and but how did that thing that has already existed brought to existence? That's the simple question that has been making you to be beating around the wilderness.

LoLz. If there is any beating round the bush it is you who is doing that. What you fail to see is the implication of what I am saying because you want your Allah to be the source of all things.

Anaybira:
But if you mean process of creation as pertained to the universe and the natural world, I don't know how they were made to exist because that is a matter of unseen but Allah [God] acknowlege us through HIS prophets about how some of what exist came about, the period of creation etc.

How can we confirm that Allah purportedly said anything in the first place?

Anaybira:
You just admitted that something must exist before it proceeds,functions...
To answer your question, rationally, by necessity and our natural inclination we know that when something exist, it was made by something to exist i.e created.
An iphone for example, exists and it doesn't make sense to say such an intelligence design wasn't created even though we may neither know how it was created nor the one who created it.
It is by necessity.

LoLz. I never argued otherwise. What I said is your dichotomy is irrelevant and holds no water.

That is not what necessity entails. You are smuggling in 'created' to front load your belief in a creator. By necessity all that exist are composed of something that has already existed. You don't need to smuggle in 'created' to see that.

Anaybira:
Even though I don't buy your forces, energy theory, but for the sake of argument, how many times have you experienced something existing without being made by something to exist i.e created? Because for every millisecond we humans see things being created [by something].

You don't have to buy it, it is fact. The reason why you can sit or stand all boils down to the fundamental forces. The reason anything in this universe exists is due to the interaction of those forces with energy. For example it is because of the weak and strong nuclear forces that your very cells can form in the first place. Gravitational force is why the sun and our planet exists. So whether you buy it or not is irrelevant, these are facts of our existence.

In our experience there are 2 types of things that exist. We call them artificial and natural. We tend to call all the things that exist without human intervention natural, while those that require human effort artificial. A landscape is natural, a picture of a landscape is not. You might see the exact same details in both but one requires human effort the other does not. You cannot give the same attributes to both because their existence came about by completely different means. To do so is false equivalence, they are not the same type of thing.

Anaybira:
Explain objectively with example how something can come into existence without the process of creation.

What is the process of creation? Explain what that means and I will give you an answer.

Anaybira:
Did you see this before believing it?

It something we experience every second of our existence.

Anaybira:
lolz...ALL THESE COME (OCCUR) AFTER BEING MADE TO EXIST

Yes, that's what I said.

Anaybira:
Check the meaning of create, and tell me how I used it subjectively.

The word already implies a deliberate act.

Create
verb
1.
bring (something) into existence.
"he created a thirty-acre lake"

Anaybira:
= SOMETHING

#What do you mean by proceed?

Function, propagate, continue to exist.

Anaybira:
How did this CONCLUSION came about?
...Provide factual proof/evidence please.

LoLz. How do you provide evidence for a negative? We see no evidence of anybody operating these interactions and yet you want evidence of seeing nobody? I didn't see a goat yesterday, how do I provide you evidence I didn't see a goat?

Anaybira:
Are you technically going for the former? i.e something always create something and saying NOTHING create something is out of sense and can never be true by necessity.
I wasn't asking for ANYBODY, SOMEBODY, BODY-BODY.

Create is loaded language which you are using here because of your beliefs. Use a more objective phrase or word and you'll see your dichotomy is meaningless.

Anaybira:
By necessity you can only say everything that EXIST is either created by SOMETHING or NOTHING, no other option, nothing in between.
Which of the two do you go for? since yourself, the natural world and the universe all exist.

You stating something to be the case doesn't make it true. The evidence we have shows that this universe proceeds by the interaction of the fundamental forces with energy that have shown no evidence of anybody operating them. Your dichotomy holds no water here.

Rashduct4luv:
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/22126/is-surrogacy-allowed-in-islam

Wow. How the heck is surrogacy a lack of chastity for crying out loud?

A stunning display of repressive backward thinking.

Calvary247:
My husband cheats alot.
I tried communicating with him to consider my emotional and psychological well-being but he didn't really take kin interest. I have wanted to cheat back but thinking of it disgusts me. Just help with a piece of advice that will help me.


Edited: File photo used for illustration

Leave where you can't cope. Your mental and physical health are more important than accommodating someone who does care about you.

Westerhoffe:
All those tricks of yours don't work on me… and you know it much too well…
I have been taken in the Spirit to both places. It remains fresh in my memory like it's overnight.

These happened in December 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 26th, 27th, and 28th year 2014.

If I say our LORD JESUS CHRIST did not show them to me, I'd be denying the truth of the Spirit of GOD, and be the same confused liar, a mislead, and misled like you are.

How can we tell the difference between what is seen "in the spirit" and what is seen in a dream?

NeoWanZaeed:

Well you asked and I gave you a valid answer. Doesn't it mean your reasoning is therefore faulty?

Anaybira:
LordReed help your brother answer this.

No, I do not believe such a thing.

NeoWanZaeed:
Mention 1 religion in the world that's not worshiping human being taken for their creator because of that human being supernatural powers

Jainism

tintingz:
It has been a while LordReed.

Hey there! Yes it has. Hope you've been well.

NeoWanZaeed:
I thought you wanna learn. That's why I replied

Anyways, have it your way

Well you didn't say anything that would convince a non believer. Saying Islam is Allah made is not convincing to someone who doesn't already believe.

officialwdhtv:
Nigerian family excited after puppy they ordered arrives from Russia.

#wetindeyhappentv


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_in9Kukb9t0

Hope heat won't kill this dog.

Righthussle:
Adeboye god get power to deal with billionaires wey ask questions but him no fit protect Adeboye so that him no go dey waste money carry armed security men dey walka.

Guys stop giving these pulpit bandits your hard earned money. Whoever or whatever made the universe will NEVER EVER EVER NEVER need your money for A N Y T H I N G whatsoever.


Any human being who collects money from other humans on behalf of an unseen entity is a thief. You don't need a judge to tell you that.




Any man who tells you he works for the maker of the universe is a thief. He works for his stomach. He must one day come to tell you his "all-sufficient " god whom he works for needs your money. The being behind the existence of the universe is not a human like Dangote, Elon Musk or Tinubu that will need workers and money. Wise up

I an not a believer in any god but you make sense.

Melagros:
You can see how important it is to be either religious or a theist

You are funny. Because had some kind of memory lapse it means he needs to be religious? SMH.

helinues:
A day didn't exist to me last week. I woke up thinking it was Saturday, so wanted to drop the refuse downstairs, I normally do on Saturdays, then I came back upstairs, I was like today should be Friday.

I later decided to go the mall, it was when I got to the mall I realized it wasn't even Friday or Saturday but Sunday. How

Yet to figure it out. That must be a glitch in the matrix

Did you get drunk or high on Friday?

OLAADEGBU:
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Are you not ashamed?

bemeruca:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/18359331_20240507211451_jpeg0cbdd50fcfbaef5485d20b030d2906bf

just don't ask when a photo of a meme was taken.
also, use reasoning so you can figure out when you are being mocked.

LoLz. Keep spinning, maybe you'll generate some electricity and stop being a waste.

bemeruca:
Keep proving my point.

You asked me when was the picture taken, which was a stupid question as I personally don't know trump and I am not their photographer. So I mocked you and asked if you would believe that.

You need to use reasoning my guy

LoLz. Keep spinning, maybe you'll generate some electricity and stop being a waste.