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PoliteActivist:
Ok, I've concluded- there's something wrong upstairs.
Someone told you CLEARLY that aspects of the universe indicate some sort of design (but we'll never know for sure because we don't know the true nature of things for sure)

Jokerman:
No my bro... No one is above correction.

It was your correction, that made me remember pluto is now extinct, that's why we have 8 instead of 9

Thanks ,

PoliteActivist:
You're beginning to make me conclude there's really something wrong with you. You sure u ok at all?
I just explicitly stated what aeliev!

Jokerman:
Oh, pluto is now extinct

Jokerman:
It is well known that our Earth is one of the 9 planets, in our solar system, and it is the only one that supports life.

PoliteActivist:
Dr. Reed I know you are NOT retarded. Not totally anyway . How many times do I have to say that aspects of the universe point to intelligent design??
But ultimately we will never know for sure - because we don't really know what's going on. Happenstance can look like intelligent design. Except that the universe correlates too well with something purely abstract like mathematics, thats suspicious. Also too many creative people and geniuses have confessed they receive help from something outside themselves.
Below are the greatest human inventor that has ever lived and the greatest abstract one.

PoliteActivist:
See below.

Shall we add another QED? I think we shall..

QED (as usual )

benalvino3:
Caught us redhanded? You could have just said I don't believe my lying eyes 🤣

PoliteActivist:
Proving you don't know usage of "gaslight". Someone whose been arguing with creationists just told you EXACTLY what he thinks - that aspects of the universe point to some sort of design. HOW DOES GASLIGHT COME INTO IT??!!

Geovanni412:
Mention the countries /leaders ruled by atheists

Let's start there and see how much "good" they've done

How free are the citizens in these countries?

Are they as "happy" as the uighur people in China?

Geovanni412:
Toh

That's why I gave her two examples of people with very good intentions for their people

As for Nigeria, give her to an atheist and the situation will be 10x worse.

PoliteActivist:
So how was I trying hard to gaslight myself when I simply told u what I think

PoliteActivist:
What do you understand this word you like using actually mean: gaslight?

budaatum:
Do not include me in your mass mentions please since you are not sure you exist.

PoliteActivist:
I never said tha and I'd never say that. I only said that certain things (like nature's correlation with math and theoretical Physics) are pointers to there being some sort of design to the universe

PoliteActivist:
Pardon my tagging everybody but these are crucial points to get accross because most people think they are jokes (I'll later reply other mentions BTW):
1) Why atheism that says God does not exist is a religion (and a stupid one at that IMHO), and 2) Why our greatest thinkers are right when they say we don't know anything.

Here's the TRUTH:
You find yourself in this reality. You don't AT ALL know what it is. You don't know if it's an illusion (like Einstein thinks), a matrix, a simulation, a hallucination, a dream, a heaven, a hell, if you have free will in it or you just have illusion of free will, if the reality is being manipulated, if you're being manipulated, where your thoughts come from, whether you are the one actually thinking them, what thinking actually is, where your dreams come from, whether there is a "you" at all (atheist Sam Harris says there is not), wether things are predetermined (as Einstein thought), etc., etc.. All you know is that there seem to be things going on and you seem to be in them {or they seem to be in you - to the extent there is a "you"}
Bottom line: YOU DON'T HAVE THE FOGGIEST IDEA WHAT THIS IS or what is truly going on!
You see water, air, etc. You don't know what they are or why they're in those particular forms.
To compound all that, you find out you are practically blind (you see 0.003% of light), that you don't know what 95% of stuff around you is, that you only perceive 4 dimensions out of hundreds, and that on a cosmic scale (if the universe were shrunk to size of earth) your earth won't be visible even with the strongest microscope!

Please answer truthfully, is someone with these attributes qualified to have an opinion as to whether God exists??!!

Being an atheist is like being sure of the answer to the question: X+5=?, without knowing AT ALL what X is, wether X is even a number at all or a goat! It is also why our greatest thinkers are right when they say we don't know anything - if you don't know what X is, you don't know anything!

**BTW Sam Harris was right but there is no great insight about what he said. It is simple common sense:
If you don't believe there is a supernatural (as you said you don't budaatum) then you must agree that the "self", the individual person, doesn’t exist - it is an illusion of accumulated memory. If your memory is wiped, "you" seizes to exit TOTALLY. If another person's memory is put in that body, that person becomes "you". Same applies to a dog or anything else. You are your accumulated memory, NOTHING ELSE! Without memory the individual, the "self", does not exist!

benalvino3:
In some situations, when a person attempts humor through a joke, the other party may comprehend the comedic intent. However, if the person fails to grasp the joke, the person who made the humor will typically clarify by stating that their remark was meant a joke and should not be taken seriously.

Are you saying even the Clinton part did not come across as a joke to you? hahaha, You guys are too serious.

benalvino3:
Is there any need? you asked questions and he told you it was satire

Judge McAfee explained that "the testimony I've heard over the past two weeks confirms that both Ms. Willis and Mr. Wade lied under oath in their attempt to conceal both the illicit affair and the fiscal impropriety of the payments made to the unqualified Mr. Wade and the kickbacks Ms. Wade received from the out-sized remuneration she authorized him to receive from the county treasury. However, these lies do not rise to the level of felonious perjury because the only person authorized to file and prosecute perjury and malfeasance charges is County District Attorney Willis."

"It is not as if these circumstances are unprecedented," McAfee pointed out. "Former President Bill Clinton lied under oath in an attempt to conceal his sexual liaisons with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. The lies he told also could've resulted in a charge of felonious perjury, but his appointed Attorney General Janet Reno declined to press charges. As for malfeasance, misuse of public funds is so widespread these days that any serious effort to combat it would bring government operations to a standstill as wave-after-wave of public officials had to be put on trial. The $700,000 misappropriated in this case pales when compared to the billion dollars of public funds former Vice-President Biden used to extort the firing of a Ukraine prosecutor investigating the shady business dealings of a business that paid Hunter Biden to serve on its board of directors."

Does the above not seem like satire to you?

basilico:
That is a satirical piece.

basilico:
Judge Exonerates Fani Willis

On Friday, Fulton County Superior Judge Scott McAfee ruled that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis will be allowed to continue to persecute former President Trump and his co-defendants for trying to overturn the 2020 presidential election results in Georgia. The only condition Ms. Willis has to meet is to persuade her sex-partner Nate Wade to withdraw from the case.

Judge McAfee explained that "the testimony I've heard over the past two weeks confirms that both Ms. Willis and Mr. Wade lied under oath in their attempt to conceal both the illicit affair and the fiscal impropriety of the payments made to the unqualified Mr. Wade and the kickbacks Ms. Wade received from the out-sized remuneration she authorized him to receive from the county treasury. However, these lies do not rise to the level of felonious perjury because the only person authorized to file and prosecute perjury and malfeasance charges is County District Attorney Willis."

"It is not as if these circumstances are unprecedented," McAfee pointed out. "Former President Bill Clinton lied under oath in an attempt to conceal his sexual liaisons with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. The lies he told also could've resulted in a charge of felonious perjury, but his appointed Attorney General Janet Reno declined to press charges. As for malfeasance, misuse of public funds is so widespread these days that any serious effort to combat it would bring government operations to a standstill as wave-after-wave of public officials had to be put on trial. The $700,000 misappropriated in this case pales when compared to the billion dollars of public funds former Vice-President Biden used to extort the firing of a Ukraine prosecutor investigating the shady business dealings of a business that paid Hunter Biden to serve on its board of directors."

Subsequent to Judge McAfee's ruling, Nate Wade resigned from his position "so that District Attorney Willis could continue the fight to save our democracy from its enemies." Willis praised her paramour's "extraordinary bravery against the most serious threat to our country since the Civil War. His selflessness in foregoing the inadequate compensation he was receiving for his efforts is a model worthy of emulation."

In other overturning election news, a Rasmussen poll found that 57% of Democrats are opposed to Congress certifying the electoral vote if Trump wins the presidential election. Biden presidential campaign co-chair Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del) argued that "democracy is too precious to passively allow Trump to seize power just because he has the votes. Hitler had the votes when he was named Chancellor of Germany in 1933. The world cannot afford to make that same kind of mistake with Trump

PoliteActivist:
All those QED's are there for all to see
The last one was when you said that you never said "natural selection doesn't select anything". I produced two places where you said exactly that, and you started making dumb eccuses!😆

PoliteActivist:
Exactly. And it SHOULDN'T!! Laws shouldn't change simply because you're approaching a given speed!!!

PoliteActivist:
My friend you sound so stubbornly obtuse. If when you get to Tokyo you find that water flows uphill, human instinct is to find out WHY, not say you can't tell nature what to do. Theorizing and trying to find out as to why an exception is there is NOT telling nature what to do. Hope you can get that through your (I assume) fairly thick skull!

PoliteActivist:
I.just saw this. You people are.RIDICULOUS!!
THE ENTIRE PROCESS IS CALLED NATURAL SELECTION!!!
Who but Reed kept harping on a selector??

PoliteActivist:
If you were at all capable of critical thinking you'd have realized long ago (like most of our geniuses) that you don’t know anything

copyrites:
Why are Nigerians in Nigeria like this? These criminals are stealing and ripping you off your wealth and that of your generations unborn, and you guys do nothing??




Mindset

PoliteActivist:
Soo,
Q E D. (as usual!)

(Truly amazing how you always lose EVERY TIME we argue!)

PoliteActivist:
Thus is NOT true. Man was a vegetarian for a long time. Why didn't goats follow suit?

PoliteActivist:
I don't want to call u a liar but you said it for several pages - that the ONLY reason diabetes survives is because diabetics reproduce!

PoliteActivist:
You have started your ridiculousness again. Why are you fixated on the word "blog"? What has that to do with anything?? Below is the end of the article and who wrote it!

PoliteActivist:
Good to have you back. Your erudite submissions add to the level of the discussion.
Well, without "all things being equal" we can't have a discussion because, as I pointed out, it's like we all live in different realities though we physically occupy the same world. There are people who speak with God everyday and people who see shape-shifting demons everyday. Then there are people who are 100% sure a supernatural doesn't exist. The totally weird thing is that BOTH may be right!

Respectfully, you're trying to play a fast one. I am the one who has always said that life is totally subjective - that what exists for one person may not exist for another.
As for what aspects of religion are beneficial, they are rather obvious. Just believing God is on your side and you can't fail is better than going it "alone". But the real point is that you can at same time have ALL there is in atheism without the stigma and "lonliness" and isolation from the social mainstream (speaking of the "human connection" you talked about).
You're right, mutual understanding is far more productive. Though "logical whack-a-mole" can be a lot of fun too. I'll admit I enjoy beating up LordReed . I'm truly amazed I've won EVERY SINGLE discussion I've had with him. They always end with me saying "QED"!

PoliteActivist:
See below. This is from physics department of a university, NOT the usual nonsense you write from top of your head and later try to save face about