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RemoveKebab:
it was probably an asteroid and it was well documented to confirm it's an asteroid.
But not a civilization threatening event. Some say it was even a black hole zipping through earth because they found no crater on site.

How does it differ from what may have happened at the so called Sodom and Gomorrah?

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How do you think the father in the story below will feel, how do you think the child who shot his mum would feel when he grows up:

Two-year-old boy accidentally shoots and kills his pregnant mother with gun left on nightstand
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/laura-ilg-shooting-mother-unborn-baby-b2361737.html

wegevv:
Lol maybe it’s the “most of the attributes given to this god do not conform to the reality of this world” that confused me. But you then say the opposite in the next sentence which I missed.

You’re going to have to explain which attributes the Christian God is said to have that can’t possibly be consistent with a God that created the universe please

1. The god is omnibenevolent/all loving/all good and is presiding over the universe.

2. That the god appoints government authorities.

wegevv:
Lol the God that created this world would not have to conform to the realities of the world he created just like a software engineer does not have to conform to the realities of a game he designed

That's not what I said at all. Reread what I wrote and try to understand it.

RemoveKebab:
By an ancient civilization much more advanced than our present timeline.
Nuke technology plus other godlike tech are much older than we think.

In every certain timeline of life on earth there are 3 types of resets that happens to life on earth.

1. by a godlike advanced civilization watching over earth (what many different ancient civilization called apocalypse) we can't understand why they do this maybe to protect the planet so we won't destroy it or they just get bored.

2. By ourselves either by war or we try to discover what will advance us to a godlike civilization but we end up creating our doom ( bio disease, nuclear war, nano tech war, machine rebellion, opening of black hole) or

3. those advance godlike civilization looking over earth get to sabotage our tech so we won't reach their status(we don't get to be gods)

Which reset us to stone age.
As they say the more things change the more they stay the same.
Everything that will happen has happened.

Was the Tunguska event also a nuclear bomb?

wegevv:
I’m convinced you’re underrating how hard it would be to disprove the existence of the God that Christian’s believe in, as well as Jesus who Christian’s believe is God and is the only way to salvation.

It is not hard all. The god that the Christians (the Abrahamic god) believe in does not exist because most of the attributes given to this god do not conform to the reality of this world. If a god exists, it does not have these attributes and thus cannot be the same god Christians or Muslims or Jews believe in.

vdestro:
K.O so you pretend not to see it and you can say so. Laugh, laugh, laugh.

LMFAO! Trap don catch monkey. Bwahahahahaha!

vdestro:
Hahahaha! Like standing in Lagos and still asking for someone to show you Lagos. Hahahahaha.

Ok so you can't show it. Should have just said so. LMFAO!

The responses on this thread tells you all you need to know on how much superstition and religion have stifled reasoning in Nigeria in particular and Africa in general. SMH.

Budaatum, these people need some mud from Plato.

tundein18:
So you want to continue with this same structure then?

For now it is better than state police in Nigeria's current socio-political climate.

KnownUnknown:
Don’t you have some mannequin example to give in this situation dtruthspeaker?

Like that time mannequins rioted when a mannequin decided to wear no clothes and said human beings caused it. LMFAO!

tundein18:
I don’t see it as a problem. If you’re a southern Christian just stay out of there. This current system is worse than dealing with that unless you want the south to stay poor. The same way they want Islam is the way we want progression in ours

You think it would be limited to the Christian Muslim divide? The fact that you are not an indigene of the state will also become an issue amongst other discriminatory practices that would be in full force.

budaatum:
Should you decide to accept it.

The Socratic Dialogues by Plato

As always, should you or any of your IM Force be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions.

This thread shall Enlighten.

Still on Chapter 6. So far the part I love best is the discussion on what is courage.

vdestro:
You have already proven it.

Bwahahahaha! If I have show the place. LMFAO!

vdestro:
See snake means lies and here you are proving it with your lying even when all over nairaland everyone knows you hate me just as much as i hate you, snake. I can see the bites you have given your mother in law and her famly, o what a mistake.

Prove I hate you, snake. LMFAO!

vdestro:
Now you talking rubbish for as you snakes have proven, snakes always love themselves whereas, i hate you snakes and you hate me too, so you are just a snake who has snaked into someones house without telling them that you are a snake. Typical of snakes.

You hate me but I don't hate you so I guess you truly are a snake. LMFAO!

nairalanda1:
State police is a good idea...except

1.Finding the money....police forces cost a lot of money. In overseas countries they are funded by TAXES. If we tried it in Nigeria, most Nigerians would protest that 'we are poor'.

2.Tribalism and religion: We had regional police in the 1960's...and where were they during the pogroms of 1966? Nowhere.

I agree. And the tribalism and religion will be the biggest problem the country will face as a fallout of having state police. Especially in Northern states that have embraced religion as part of their identity, imagine a state official declaring that they demolished a public structure because it had a design that could be interpreted as a cross. What do you think such officials would do with police forces fully under their control?

Watcharena:
yes it's a non combat mission that killed thousands of children in Iraq

Why the lies? NATO did not undergo any combat mission Iraq.

vdestro:
You are the snake who entered a famly before declaring to them that you a snake.

And you are snake born to snakes pretending not to be a snake. LMFAO!

Watcharena:
yes they also defended Iraq some years back

A training mission under the aegis of the UN and the Iraqi Interim Government, a non combat mission.

AntiChristian:
Abeg pity yourself! If you die as a Christian too na Hell you dey go too without coming out for eternity!

All these tales by moonlight wey you dey use deceive the gullible! Babalawo dey do this too! Herbalist dey do these too! Does that mean they are divine? More so, Muslims do ruqyah to heal too!



When Jesus died who did he meet? Himself or his father? Lol! Allah is not present physically in this world! And Muhammad is in the Afterlife! So we need not meet
False theory!
The life of the afterlife is another world on its own!

Bwahahahaha! Your hear FxMasterz, you are going to Muslim hell. LMFAO!

Tomcorp:
In the past 13 years I have studied over 2,000 cases of NDEs from different countries all over the world. There is actually an organization created for this sole purpose. To investigate thoroughly and record the testimonies. NDE (Near Death Experience) i.e those that literally died for minutes, hours or days but came back to life. I'm not talking of those that went into coma. I mean those that were certified dead by the hospitals.

Interestingly when these people came back to life they all testified that they saw the same thing. They either saw Jesus Christ or Angels. None of them saw Mohammed, Buddha, Krishna, Mary, St. Peter, Confucius or Joseph Smith.

Most of these people were not even Christians before the NDE but God gave them a second chance to repent for reasons known to Him. I have a large file of video evidence and testimonies on these cases. Not everyone will get a second chance like these people. Those who think there is no God or their false religion will take them to Heaven are in for a big shock. Time is ticking.

What's the name of the organization?

So should I show you an NDE that saw Mohammed and Krishna?

FxMasterz:
Hehehehe.

I just pity atheist like lordreed, maynmaynmayn, hopefullandlord, jaephoenix etc. and all those deceived islamists like antichristian, lukuluku69, legalwolf and the likes.

Yesterday, I was praying for a lady who was being attacked by yeye osun. She's in fact a member of the cult. After all medical treatments failed, she called upon me to come and pray for her. It seems they've told her in the coven that her time has come. I'm not sure though because she didn't give me details of what was going on in their camp. She only confessed her membership of the cult I too didn't bother to ask because she was forcing herself to talk. Her voice was weak. She couldn't walk too. She's been lying down on the bed for the past 4 days. As we were praying, she was hearing voices telling her, "Be deceiving yourself. You cannot escape from us." Jesus delivered her o. She's up from the bed, though she's yet to regain her full stamina as at this morning. She's staggering and cannot stand without being supported but she's been freed. As she was manifesting during prayers yesterday, I was remembering these deceived Atheists who say there's no God, and I was really pitying them and those Muslims whose Mohammed never healed the sick but had the audacity to send them to kill human beings whose simple sicknesses he cannot heal.

When you die, you will meet Jesus. Just as all NDE have revealed. There's no Mohammed or Allah anywhere beyond the grave. There are overwhelming evidences for this assertion. I pity your souls. May God have mercy on you.

So if I show you NDE claiming to have seen Muhammed and Buddha I should go ahead and be a Muslim or Buddhist?

triplechoice:
Brilliant question. I will answer it immediately because I know you will take your time to read everything before replying .

It's said that the human mind functions in two modes, the unconscious (AKA the subconscious) and the conscious . Everything we experience subjectively within ourselves can come from either of the two .

The operations of the latter is easily seen in the observable human brain .

For instance , we know the part of the brain that is responsible for the sense of Smell ,taste ,sight ,etc. However there's a limit to which the brain can make us perceive anyrhing that come from outside of it

As for the unconscious ,not much is known of how it operates and what part of the brain controls what it does. Most people just assume it's the brain that controls it , and call it the non conscious part of the brain . That assumption is wrong as you shall come to see .

The subconscious mind can make us known directly things the observable human brain is incapable of making us sense or experience at any given time .

With the subconscious, one can have a precognition of an event that is yet to occur or know it before it manifest later. No part of the brain has been identified that can make this happen , yet some persons have this sort of experiences all the time .

The brain together with the central nervous system cannot make us experience anything else apart from what is already stored in it , or what it's programmed to react to. But when that happens ,insisting it's still the brain that has made it happen is foolish and ignorant talk by someone who is not too well informed of the science behind the human body .

Also the subconscious can make it possible to 'see' through walls to know what is happening behind it.,not with the physical eyes of course ,but through what some persons refer to as the third eye .Not an actual eye really ,but it's own unique way of making one perceive reality directly, far better than what the five physical senses can give us.

When the unconscious 'sees ' anything ,it flashes it across the screen of your mind so one is aware of it, and also for the brain to store and process it. But most people are so disconnected from their unconscious, or not fully conscious of their own consciousness , that they are not even aware when this happens within themselves ,

There is no part of the brain that can make one "see" through walls . But some persons have had that kind of experience and when they report it ,,some ignorant persons who believe it's not possible , would dismiss it with , Oh, You were just hallucinating or it was conincidence.

Furthermore ,the subconscious can make anybody perceive the smell of something beyond the normal range of what the brain can detect ..Some humans and animals ,sniffer dogs especially, can sense the 'smell' of an illness,, cancer ,diabetes, etc , weeks or months before it manifest in the human body . The brain is incapable of such function it's limited to only experiencing what is 'there ' already in the body .

And again ,the subsconscious doesn't forget anything. It is not like the brain which forgets easily and cannot store much information or know anything that's not stored within it.

Through hypnosis regression one can recall memories of what one has experienced in the past even to the extent of remembering the exact time one entered the physical body in their mother's womb. If it's possible to remember, through the subconscious , that sort of thing ,which is actually possible with hypnosis ,then ,it would only mean one thing , the real human being is not the same as the body it is believed it emerged from You cannot watch and see your body formimg in your mother's womb before possessing it and still delude yourself into thinking your conscousness or your self has emerged from it. It doesn't make sense .

And finally ,OBEs, which you are yet to accept, is another reason I say consciousness, the real self has not emerged from the brain . Yes , the brain and the central nervous system is what makes us have objective conscousness through the physical body ,but that's not enough reason to conclude it has emergred from it .

My phone, any phone or any other device that's internet enabled , is what gives me presence, or make me come alive on Nairaland, without which nobody can interact with me . Those devices are not me and not responsible for the thoughts I express eventhough it's through them I do so . If they become faulty or damaged, it will affect my presence , or what I try to do get across on this board.( The material plane )



The above analogy, though not perfect ,can help one understand how consciousness ,the real self inside uses a physical body to operate in the material plane . If the brain is dameged ,it is not the being using it that is
directjy affected ,but that only makes it more difficult , or no longer possible to manifest ones intentions through it, since everything coming in and going out then becomes garbled due to the faulty brain . .

The pain we feel when our body gets hurt is to alert us to what has happened withiin it so we can deal with or take care of the problem and continue to using the body . Without this ,you won't know what's going untill the body stops working . But one should know they are not the body , and will depart from it one day .

The human being is much more than its observable physical parts . but unfortunately neuroscientist and others within the scientific community are treating the human being like a machine whose outer body parts and engine once understood ,will make everything fall into place . Unless there is a paradigm shift in the sciences about the human being ,I'm afraid not much will be known . The mystification will continue .

Long time ago when I first started to meditate , I wasn't too sure if what I was doing was worth it or could help me in anyway . The reason for this was because the position of main stream science as at that time was,; meditation was harmful to one's mental health . That it causes depressions and also cannot help you make any meaningful changes within yourself as people who practiced it were claiming .


But my experiences proved otherwise . So I continue ,but with caution .

And now more than 20 years later ,the same scientist are now encouraging people to meditate because they found its helpful for those suffering from depression . Haba!

Well it's still good . It has helped people like me to take the practice more serious since scientist can now confirm it works .


There are meditative techniques to help one separate from the body ,but not easy to master . If you want it fast, then look for individuals with the ability to take you out of your body with your permission . Or join genuine esoteric group to give you the experience during your first initiatiion.

If you don't want to go through that ,then try this , tell you self each night people you go to sleep that you need an experience to confirm if ones consciousness can actually separate from the body . After that don't give it any thought . If it's something you are ready for ,your higher self , the subsconscious , will do everything to make you have the experience so you know the truth about yourself.

So thanks Lordreed for the question. I hope you read all .Most of the things I promised to come with yesterday ,before I was distracted, are contained in it

There is a lot to unpack here so I might have to do it in bits. I am not really settled enough to respond to everything in one go.

This: As for the unconscious, not much is known of how it operates and what part of the brain controls what it does. Most people just assume it's the brain that controls it, and call it the non conscious part of the brain. That assumption is wrong as you shall come to see.

that seems to be the foundation of your response here might be wrong. There are findings that indicate that the subconscious is processed within the subcortical regions of the brain. You can see that here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3393600/
Admittedly that knowledge is still very far from complete, but it challenges the notion that we don't know where in the brain the subconscious is being processed.

budaatum:
Yep. My bad eyes stop me reading physical books and this can be listened to on the go. I've done 5 hours so far.

If or when the Nigerian education system gets up to standard, this will be required listen to by the third year in secondary school and the mode of thinking it promotes will permeate the school system in 5 years.

If only Seun would give us a Philosophy section.

budaatum:
Should you decide to accept it.

The Socratic Dialogues by Plato

As always, should you or any of your IM Force be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions.

This thread shall Enlighten.

Oh my dear buda you are awesome! It's an audiobook!

vdestro:
I was never a snake so i must refuse to be one.

You are the one who called your family snakes so...

LoLz.

Whobedatte:
You get time
Only one person with multiple monicker replying you lol

Sometimes it is good to treat people's fuckup.

vdestro:
No need! Na una problem. I just temporarily wear their shoe comot am. So na una wahala.

Rest then. LoLz.

vdestro:
Yeah, i refuse to be snakes like you and them.

So a baby snake can refuse to be a snake? LMFAO!

vdestro:
By family you mean the sperm that sired me, uncles, aunts, cousins, then the answer is unproclaimed atheists. Church going Atheists.

LoLz. No wonder you turned out the way you are. Bwahahahahaha!

vdestro:
I dey feel am for your wife family.

LoLz. Go drink panadol na. Bwahahahahaha!