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MaxInDHouse:
Atheism is deceiving you!
Perhaps you don't know i will enlighten you.
Before you can claim that you are from a place as in ancestral background you should be able to name at least your father, grandfather and great-grandfather who lived as inhabitants of that place you claim.
So if Chinese and Indians can't mention the names of their ancestors who lived before Bible times then they lied to you!

JW is deceiving you!

Once again get it through your head that a fake genealogy proves nothing. We know the Chinese were there not because they gave us a fake story of how their god told their ancestors to kill their sons but because we found evidence. Actually evidence beats storybook everytime.

Image123:
There's something wrong with human sacrifice that God did not demand. Can you just write exams and go and submit to JAMB or WAEC or whatever certification body? No. You must write the ones asked by the certifying body for it to count. Any other human sacrifice doesn't count because ALL have sinned. It doesn't count and it isn't requested.

Ahhh, the good ol' "it is good when the god does it" argument. Then tomorrow you'll come and tell me subjective morality is bad. LoLz.

MaxInDHouse:
God secured Canaan for His people for all other nations in the East and West to learn from them and back them Canaan was the center as in the middle but you want to argue that it wasn't that's what led to the question.
Please answer the question if you're sure that Canaan isn't the center of ancient world!

Answer what question?

The only evidence you can have is false stories but if you want to prove that you truly have evidence then mention the name of just one Indian or Chinese who lived before Bible date his or her spouse, children and grandchildren that can be traced to our time after all the Bible did just that!

LoLz. You are the one with false stories. A fake genealogy is not evidence except evidence of your gullibility. Even Israelis are finding out that that narrative is not true.

Besides a genealogy is not proof of anything. It is like claiming that because I know my grandfather therefore I am a US citizen. That's nonsense which is exactly what you are saying.

MaxInDHouse:
You said:



So you shouldn't just make an assertion without proving it nah!
At least you need to mention the name of an Indian or Chinese who lived before the timeline of the Bible, his wife or husband and children whose descendants are traceable today just as the Bible mentioned people and listed the names from Adam! Matthew 1:1-16; Luke 3:23-38

Or you don't think that before claiming Chinese and Indians lived before the time recorded in the Bible!

We are talking of people groups on a map and you are talking about genealogy how is that equivalent? We have evidence people were living in the Indian subcontinent 100s of years before the purported time of Abraham and we have evidence that people were living in the Chinese subcontinent 1000s of years before that so your claim that everything was centred around Canaan is ignorant.

Did the people in India and China just magically appear there?

CreatedtwoRule:
Animal can't attone human! Man sinned not animals, only the equivalent works!

So you god lied then and there is nothing wrong with human sacrifice.

MaxInDHouse:
Mention the name of a Chinese or Indian who lived 5,000 years ago his wife, children, grandchildren just as the Bible penned down every detail.
You people swallow lies hook line and sinker just because you don't want to humble yourself before God's word!

Oh now it's no longer about the map it now about some new arbitrary criterion that has nothing to do with whether Canann was the center of anything. You know you've been showed up but you don't what to accept that you are wrong. LoLz.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't believe the Bible yet you want to argue about what is in the Bible.

Please who is not serious here?

The Bible told us that life began in Eden somewhere around Iraq and that people started scattering after God confused their language and that shortly God chose a man (Abraham) and led him to a place where pure worship will be established in the ancient world.
Now i'm saying that place is the center of the ancient world where people from the east and west could know about the deeds of God Almighty and suddenly you appear to argue what you never believed.
If you're no longer satisfied with the likes you were giving your friend behind the scene you're free to join the discussion but that's the truth people has not scattered further than Europe and Asia when God established Israelites in the land of Canaan.
The center!

LMAO! The confident ignorance. The Indian civilization is older than the supposed time of Abraham. Where is it in your map? The Chinese are even older that any timeline of the Bible, where are they in your map? You just say whatever ignorant thing and think you are correct.

DeepSight:
He doesn't even know that a land bridge existed from Russia to Alaska, and even Antarctica had been there long ago.

Probably will not guess that the only reason the map is like that is simply because it was the Europeans drawing from their point of view.

Canaan is not the centre of the world. The equator has a perfect right to that claim.

The confident ignorance is so thick you can cut it with a knife.

MaxInDHouse:
https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&docid=1001070222
When did Rome became the world power?
And when did Abraham started residing in Canaan?
How many centuries is between Abraham's lifetime and Rome's conquest?

LMAO! This is too funny. Was this the whole world minus the Americas? Did Europe and the rest of Asia magically appear later?

Dude get serious.

MaxInDHouse:
Only America was excluded in the map of the ancient world from Europe to Asia people have settled and Canaan was the center back then.
Please check the world map and try to exclude America that Atlantic separated!

It was not the center of the map either. Attached is an ancient Roman map of the world. Can you see where Canaan was on the map?

MaxInDHouse:
The land of Canaan is the center where the ancient world could easily notice God's people so it's not about milk and honey but the center of the ancient world!

The Levant (Canaan) was not the centre of anything. It was not the centre of a major civilization, it was not the centre of a "world" empire, it did not have a major trading city, etc. It was not the centre of the ancient world.

CreatedtwoRule:
First thing first: This Question Troubled Me Too

I’ll never forget the first time an atheist friend threw this challenge at me: "If God is love, why did He demand His own Son’s death to fix a problem He created?" It felt like a theological gut punch. Maybe you’ve heard versions of this too:

"Why would God ‘sacrifice Himself to Himself’?"
"Isn’t the cross just cosmic child abuse?"
"If Adam and Eve had free will, why punish the rest of us?"

For years, I wrestled with these questions—until I realized they’re not just intellectual puzzles. They’re doorways into the heart of the gospel. Here’s how Scripture untangles the paradox.


1. The Trinity: Not a Divine Shell Game
(Or: "God Didn’t Sacrifice Himself to Himself"

The objection assumes God is a lonely monarch grudgingly offering His Son. But the Bible reveals three Persons working in harmony:
The Father upholds justice (Romans 3:25–26).
The Son voluntarily lays down His life (John 10:17–18).
The Spirit makes this redemption real in us (Romans 8:11).

Picture this: Imagine a firefighter running into a burning building to save a child. No one accuses him of "arson and heroism." Similarly, the Trinity isn’t playing roles—it’s a rescue mission.


2. Free Will vs. Divine Justice: The Love Behind the Law
(Or: "Why Can’t God Just Forgive?"

Yes, Adam and Eve chose rebellion (Genesis 3:6). And yes, their choice affects us all (Romans 5:12). But God’s justice isn’t petty—it’s protective.

Think of it like this: If a judge lets a drunk driver off scot-free, is he loving? No—he’s endangering the community. God’s holiness must confront sin (Habakkuk 1:13). But here’s the twist: He pays the fine Himself (Psalm 85:10).


3. The Cross: Love’s Rawest Moment
(Or: "Why Blood? Why Death?"

Old Testament Clue: For centuries, animal sacrifices (Leviticus 17:11) hinted that sin’s cost is life itself. But lambs couldn’t fix human hearts.

New Testament Fulfillment: Enter Jesus—the willing Lamb (John 1:29). His death wasn’t a divine tantrum. It was love absorbing wrath so we wouldn’t have to (2 Corinthians 5:21).

Hard truth: If God ignored evil, He’d be unjust. The cross is where justice and mercy kiss.


4. Jesus’ Own Words: This Was Always the Plan
He didn’t stumble into crucifixion. He came for it:
"The Son of Man… gave His life as a ransom for many." (Mark 10:45)
"Greater love has no one than this…" (John 15:13)

This isn’t a loophole. It’s the ultimate "I’ll take your place."


Final thought: The Love That Won’t Let Go
The atheist’s objection misses the point: The cross isn’t about God appeasing His anger—it’s about Him enduring it for us.

Justice? Yes—sin can’t go unchecked.
Love? Absolutely—He took the hit Himself.

Next time someone asks, "Why the blood?" tell them: "Because love like this doesn’t come cheap."


Personal Question: Which aspect of the atonement moves you most—God’s justice, His love, or the Trinity’s teamwork? Share below!

Any attempt to justify human sacrifice is already a loss.

DeepSight:
Its shocking. Remain small they will say cover your head, cover your legs, cover your feet, cover you hands, cover your face, in fact cover your eyes.

Omo na wa o.

Easyincome24:
The management of the Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile Ife, Osun State, has released dressing codes for all its students and punishment for violators.

The release listed various degrees of unwelcoming dressings noticed among the students especially the Gen Z with varying degrees of punishment including but not limited to expulsion

This is high handedness I never thought I would see in a Federal University. Terrible.

DyshApp:
A mother has reportedly called off her daughter’s engagement after the fiancé verbally lashed out at her for missing his phone call once.

The incident was shared on X (formerly Twitter) by a user with the handle @ohhyesweirdo, who identified herself as the daughter involved.

According to her, her mother ended the engagement solely because the fiancé insulted her over a missed call. Sharing the story, she wrote: “My mamu called off his daughter’s engagement because her fiancée cursed at her cuz she didn’t pick up his call once. Respect for mamu+++.”

While some social media users suggested that there might be more to the story, she responded: “No, that’s it. She said if he can speak to her like that when she’s in my house, then what would he do to her when she’s at his.”

She maintained that her mother believed the fiancé’s behavior was a red flag and could escalate in the future once her daughter moved in with him.

The post has since sparked widespread conversation online, with users flooding the comments to share their thoughts on the mother’s decision.

Mama is correct. The fiance is an abuser and he showed his true colours in her presence.

Image123:
Interesting what you choose to believe selectively. Are you now the entertainer?

LoLz. What part of what I said is wrong? YOU are the one who said the god is love, YOU are the one arguing that nothing stops the god from allowing people kill one another over his messages. Na you carry hand talk am so yeah own your poop bro. Bwahahahahahaha!

Image123:
What stops God from permitting division or differences? No such thing in the Bible that claims there's a God. But you that claim there's no God have definition and specifications for who you claim doesn't exist. That's hilarious like i said.
God is not just a loving God, God is love. So again, He beats you to it by defining love.
Whether people kill themselves or not, people still die. Even much more than the number of people killing themselves over God. So your point is moot in the big scheme. As regards difference and diversity, you'd notice how creation itself is diverse. All humans unique, all planets different. Even the gospel accounts come from different angles. God is too much to be in the box dear.

There we have it folks, the absurdity of defending absurd religious positions. The god is love so he allows people to kill one another over disagreements about the god and his message.

Wehdone sir! Bwahahahahahaha!

Kobicove:
You should pity Ukraine not Russia!

Forget about the propaganda you see on western news media Ukraine is taking a serious beating in this war.

Did you not see the recent exchange of bodies the two countries did where Russia exchanged the dead bodies of 1,000 Ukrainan soldiers for just 19 dead Russian soldiers?

Link to this report.

Image123:
As usual, God doesn't fit into your definition, therefore there's no God. Your consistent attempts to make God in some image is hilarious. What stops God from permitting division or differences. It's still people like you that castigate God as narrow when He insists on one way.

LoLz. The problem is it doesn't fit YOUR definition of the god. That's what makes it so funny. How can you claim that there is a loving god (do you disspute this claim?) but people disagree so much on what he says to the point of killing one another yet this so called loving god DOES NOTHING. Exactly what you'd expect from a nonexistent mythical thing.

PulsingPurple:
Okay.

Anyone who's interested in playing judge or just wants to understand why you randomly appear and start defending (or abi starting a counter offensive).

Or anyone who's even interested in understanding why I said this:



OR, anyone who understands what I'm looking for and how to start this evidence debate you were pushing for will follow the thread and our conversation here:

https://www.nairaland.com/8477516/all-arguments-existence-god-explained

Indeed, let them see how you chickened out then are over here trying to frame it differently.

PulsingPurple:
Whatever is worrying still allows me mind my business and respond to everyone with a clear head.

The stuff that's worrying me hasn't ever lead me to start what I won't finish, doesn't let me beg for audience.

You made me interested in starting these types of debate btw, really wish you were capable of handling proper arguments.

LoLz. I told you what I was interested in, evidence, you want to talk about arguments yet you responded to me as if you actually were going to produce evidence. Then when I insist we stick to what I am looking for you start a tantrum and chicken out. You are obviously the one who can't handle the discussion.

PRINCESSFCFANSs:
Yes,


I did not kill it by my power ,

it is the Almighty God and Jesus Christ that did it ,

I Took a PROPHETIC ACTION ,While SHOUTING The Name Of JESUS CHRIST!


Yes,
it was in less than One minute ,
Read the post again ,

Thanks to everyone.

You hit the birds with an actual stone and they died. Why would you think shout the name of Jesus had anything to do with them dying?

PulsingPurple:
We're only human, pride won't let us... 😅

Meanwhile I'm looking for one serious atheist to come and continue a conversation that one of their friends couldn't hold together.

LoLz. You chickened out and still have mouth to talk about being serious and holding it together. Dude you don't know what is worrying you.

DyshApp:
A young Nigerian bride has gone viral after revealing the unexpected way she met her husband, while on a date with her then-boyfriend.

In a trending video shared on social media, the bride, dressed in her wedding gown and surrounded by friends, recalled how her chance encounter with her now-husband happened during a birthday celebration.

“Don’t miss your husband because of your boyfriend,” she began, drawing laughter and cheers from her friends.

She explained that on her birthday, she had gone out with her boyfriend at the time, only to cross paths with another couple, her now-husband and his then-girlfriend, at the same venue.

“He was there with his girlfriend too. We started vibing and he was spraying me money. I thanked him later because I didn’t expect it, and from there, we started vibing,” she recounted.

The video has since made rounds across various platforms, with many social media users surprised and some discouraged by the spontaneity of their love story.

Can she be any more explicitly a gold digger? LoLz.

How can you believe there is a loving god that permits this kind of division? LoLz.

Lucifyre:
Or that an airplane's BLACKbox is not black. 😄

Jeezuzpick:
I didn't get any thin-veiled racism in his interviews I've watched, so, I must admit you know more than me.

Maybe he didn't mention his racist stances in the interviews you saw.

Lucifyre:
Jesu!!!🙆🏽🙆🏽🙆🏽

Ive been laughing for a min 🤣🤣🤣. Like I said my aim was to demonstrate your loud ignorance - not convince you, that's a fool's errand I ain't running. Wasn't expecting you'd give the killer blow with the bolded. You literally made me lol.

I want to see his reaction when he learns that infraRED light is not actually red. LMAO.

jesusjnr2020:
Man with the highest IQ in the world, Dr. YoungHoon Kim, who says he believes Jesus is God and also wants to use this opportunity to lead many souls to Jesus, now says in recent tweet, "AI will soon believe that Jesus is God before many even realise it because logic leads to God".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhHjBlayhKc&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD

Related thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/8457044/man-worlds-highest-iq-says#135843518

LoLz. Bookmarking this for when the poop hits the fan.

Jeezuzpick:
Christopher Langan

He's about 72-73 years old. With an IQ of around 210.

The same Chris Langan that is a thinly veiled racist? Why do you people like to pedestal such vile people?

PulsingPurple:
You ask for evidence to argue on and disprove, I ask for a proper argument while we're at it.

You don't want that, I don't accept your invitation to argue either.

I guess we're done here. 🤝

Bwahahahahahaha! SMH!