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CrimeRe: The Moment Police Saved "Penis Thieves" From Angry Mob In Edo State (Video) by Lucifyre: 7:26pm On Dec 15, 2024
The average nigerian is so frigging daft.
Christianity EtcRe: Reminder That Atheists Are Idiots by Lucifyre: 10:59pm On Dec 13, 2024
Lucifyre:
...I simply wanted to state and buttress fact... So convincing or having back and forth with someone who participates in a clown show of believing in a text, which himself and others who hold faith in said text can't even seem to agree themselves on anything, while claiming it as the beacon of truth would be a fool's errand 😅...
Gabrielshow24:
The same way scientific constants are constants👀

When buttressing your supposed fact you failed to mention the two day creation story of the eluma elish or perhaps the troupe of Marduk among others!

You just brought up some scientific dissertation about textual similarities between both books without exemplifying that the core message of both were different.

Men were created as slaves in the eluma elish unlike the bible!

Keep your biased view to yourself!
If you stated the similarities why not tell the world also the differences.

Just because a Novel is written in the bibliographical style doesn't necessarily mean it's a bibliography!

It just shows they had a common ancestor.

Nothing more nothing less!
👀Tell the people when the sun was created in the eluma elish or perhaps when vegetation came into being!
Christianity EtcRe: Reminder That Atheists Are Idiots by Lucifyre: 10:24pm On Dec 13, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
No one disputes that there are some textual similarities between the two.

As regards the creation story you talked about even in the enuma elish, its depiction suggests a pitiful and rather purposeless life filled with chaos unlike the creation story of the bible where there is structure and purpose as to why God made everything.

The relationship of God as regards Israel is more than a suzerain and vassal relationship.
Very well depicted in the verses of the bible.

Also Yahweh is depicted as a creator of the universe unlike Baal and so called other gods👀 wrestling for eminence.

There are lots of textual similarities but the theme or message of both differ!

Your argument holds no salt.

It only shows they have a common origin or ancestor.
Evident in the fact that they existed in the same region.

What else do you have brother!
You have to refer to the enuma elish🥱
Not my fault your attention span's been zapped due to consuming info exclusively through indoctrination. I simply wanted to state and buttress fact, fact backed by academic scholarship. So convincing or having back and forth with someone who participates in a clown show of believing in a text, which himself and others who hold faith in said text can't even seem to agree themselves on anything, while claiming it as the beacon of truth would be a fool's errand 😅. Facts are facts. It's why we enjoy when similarly, flat earthers marinate in their delusion. Its why we don't take the word of supposed "divinely inspired" schizophrenics who hear voices in their head and claim we live in a geocentric modelled universe according to their texts when in fact its the opposite. Facts don't care about belief or mental gymnastics. Thanks for coming to my TED talk 😁
Christianity EtcRe: Reminder That Atheists Are Idiots by Lucifyre: 8:23pm On Dec 13, 2024
jaephoenix:
The copy was too brazen. The bible copied the flood, how a god told some dude to build a boat, and saved some folks through it etc. Very original grin
I've written about the flood on here, its basically a very common ancient near eastern myth/motif that was copied like most Nigerian movies 😅 from myths of older cultures way before the copiers. Lets not even get into the book of Genesis which also copies and adopts common motifs found in other ancient near eastern epics/stories like Enuma Elish, that they had to edit, redact and retcon to make it different with Genesis 1 added to the original anthromorphosized creation story of Genesis 2. The depiction of Yhwh in the typical storm and warrior god trope of ancient eastern cultures to the extent he was coalesced and conflated with Baal another storm god and El, the cheif god of the canaanite pantheon.

Also the whole relationship between Yhwh and Isreal written in the trope of a typical relationship between a Suzerain and its Vassal as was common in the ancient near east before been used as a trope in the book of fables and contradictions. Lest i forget the adoption of even cultic rituals typical of... you guessed it, other older cultures of ANE, a clear example is YHWH and Abram getting into a convenant and passing over a split calf to sign their pact. Do we forget the adoption of the timeline of ageing like the Sumerian King list and other older ANE cultural tropes following same pattern and as you pointed out the Decalogue and all the fvcking contradictng laws of the Deuteronomistic and preistly schools influenced from the code of Hammurabi, and this is just parts of the Torah, not even gotten to the Nevii'm or Ketuvihm.

Especially the Psalms and wisdom literatures like Job, where more copy, paste, editing, redactions, retconning(especially the polytheistic retcon) and contradictions can be found that its basically a consensus in scholarship that even reputable Christian scholars like Mark smith admit to the influence. Then one empty random on the internet is spouting dross😅, lets not even get into the original authors and psuedepigraphy, or historical contexts or translational ot textual criticism and context. If only they'll spend as much time educating themselves about the context of their book of contradictions as much as they spend defending their god.
PoliticsRe: Afe Babalola Obtains Court Order To Block Sale Of Farotimi’s Book On Amazon by Lucifyre: 9:20am On Dec 11, 2024
Typical Barbara Streisand effect.
Christianity EtcRe: The Selective Nature Of Divine Healing Vs. Human Medical Advancement by Lucifyre(op): 9:15am On Dec 11, 2024
Padipadi:
As you see me so, do I look LIKE SU?
Or I tell you say Jesus na God?
Receive one nuke even though you never chop. You're a mæd pikin like this thing below 👇
🥱
Christianity EtcRe: The Selective Nature Of Divine Healing Vs. Human Medical Advancement by Lucifyre(op): 8:51pm On Dec 10, 2024
Padipadi:
Ya argument and childish thought has been defeated so there's no need to follow you into ya latrine and gutter house.
But nukes are lurking around the corner. On this forum, you go smell pepper. Dirty ass janjaweèd baby lucifer. Thunder faya ya blokkos! 🔥
🤣 See christ like xtain defending his god.
Christianity EtcRe: The Selective Nature Of Divine Healing Vs. Human Medical Advancement by Lucifyre(op): 9:52am On Dec 09, 2024
Padipadi:
You are the rabbid foaming ekuke.
When using drugs, you follow prescriptions. When receiving spiritual healings you follow it's procedure. Get that into ya oblongata.
And from today, if you don't have sense, never in ya life post jargons here again
😄 No need to keep foaming at the mouth, relax and drink water. Oh! sorry i forgot, water's your enemy right now, like common sense. Anyways didn't know you're the resident gateman here, duly noted. I'd still post whatever the fvck i want, you can keep barking and foaming, its all empty noise.
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Is Not Univocal by Lucifyre: 9:43am On Dec 09, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
How does this make sense?
Ah yes! Selective amnesia the ultimate tool in the arsenal of a dedicated hypocrite.
Christianity EtcRe: The Selective Nature Of Divine Healing Vs. Human Medical Advancement by Lucifyre(op): 5:45pm On Dec 08, 2024
Padipadi:
Lucifer, how you don chop this morning?
Just greeting you o.
Now to ya topic.
There's no selective healing. It's based on how you use ya prescription for spiritual and physical healing.
Moreover you dey diss only one religion and not others that use similar means. Be like say one fake pastor don swindle you before. Take heart.
Focus on all religion then you will be considered a serious clown.
Lol! You could easily have scrolled past if it bothered you that much, but you chose the typical christain foaming at the mouth rabid approach. Not my fault your religion's a joke and parody of itself.
Christianity EtcRe: The Selective Nature Of Divine Healing Vs. Human Medical Advancement by Lucifyre(op): 10:48am On Dec 08, 2024
Yorimichi:
would the instant healing of an amputees under supervision put an end to this age-long debate ? grin
Like the other comment stated it's indeed a great starting point.
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Is Not Univocal by Lucifyre: 8:00am On Dec 08, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
You see we all ignored him yet you imagine that he is important enough to give us a stroke? Man, you love delusions.
You that convulsed over my mentions severally despite the silent treatment i gave you or do you need receipts to remember 😄
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Is Not Univocal by Lucifyre: 7:59am On Dec 08, 2024
Yorimichi:
just went through your profile and its enough to give a believer instant stroke lol
you seem to be an apostate ?
😅 Don't know why i find that word funny, i simply take facts, and data over dogma.
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Is Not Univocal by Lucifyre: 7:56am On Dec 08, 2024
Yorimichi:
i'm writing on the evolution and influence of the Babylonian Exile and its impact on Jewish religious precepts, hopefully it'll be ready by sunday
Looking forward to reading it, its quite an interesting topic.
Christianity EtcRe: Transfusion Of Blood Doctrine: Jehovah Witness. Real Or False by Lucifyre: 11:04am On Dec 07, 2024
Religious people are extremely myopic and outright delusional. The funny thing is some religions/denominations feel superior, turn their noses up at the others all because their brand of delusion is different. Which is quite funny and proves them even more myopic and delusional than they're realise. Your mythical god designed the world in a way where everything is trying to kill you, why make it easy to be killed when we've found solutions to avert em. That's where the delusion comes in.
Christianity EtcRe: Watch: The Ethiopian Bible' The Original Bible & Best Bible Version by Lucifyre: 6:52pm On Dec 06, 2024
YOu guys have arrived again with your garbage youtube misinforming, dross. How can the Ethiopian bible be the original bible when its based on the translation of the Septuagint to ge'ez, when the Septuagint itself is also a translation itself, a translation of the Hebrew bible to greek. So in what world is a copy considered the original, when its not just a copy but the copy of a copy?! That's not even considering the fact that there is no "the bible" as objectivity's miles away from the book, so even claiming "complete" is a farce.

The different religions and denominations that spawned from it all have their different canons with protestants having the fewest and the orthodox the most, not even considering the differing translations(same spirit of god thats not an author of confusion inspired all these, Lol!). So if any one has a claim to be the original, it has to be the Tanakh( the Hebrew bible) as it came first, with the dead sea scrolls serving as its oldest manuscripts that far predate the earliest manuscripts of the ethiopian bible.

Original indeed, get this your misinforming crap out of here. Going to even report the video on youtube since clickbait nonsense is you guys only m.o for traffic.
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Is Not Univocal by Lucifyre:
Yorimichi:
The Bible does not present a singular depiction of God. It presents numerous different and frequently contradictory depiction of God, And you can't just add them all together and look at the sum and have a fuller picture of God. You just get a tangled paradoxical mess.

What you can do to get a notion of a "God of the Bible" is negotiate with the the text, and center and prioritize certain depictions, and marginalize, reinterpret or outright ignore other depictions. And all of these is in the interest of making the text more meaningful or more useful for us within a given context or situation.

Which mean any "God of the Bible" that we fine is a situationally emergent, negotiated divine profile, because the Bible is not univocal.
it does not speak with a single unified voice, and does not present a single unified idea of God.
What you've stated here is nothing but absolute fact and aptly put. When you look at the context of the creation of the texts - from writing to editing to redaction to copying - and the historical & cultural context as well as against the backdrop of the region of the ancient near east, there's no how one wouldn't come to that conclusion. Different authors covering different time periods, writing for different audiences trying to pass their own agendas and for distinct purposes.

This is not even considering the evolution of their beliefs from polytheistic to henotheistic to finally monotheistic. Also the coalescing or conflation of YHWH with Baal and the chief god of the cannanite patheon El. It results in different perspectives that are not univocal and can only be univocal by outright mental gymnastics and renegotiation of the texts and that's undeniable hard fact. Suddenly storm/warrior god YHWH, suddenly turns around to say he loves everyone after several genocides and becomes a god of love yet he doesn't change?! Its nothing short of mental gymnastics.

Even the creation story in Genesis depicts 2 different gods as its 2 different writers with different perspectives, which is why you find the details and order of creation in the first(Gen 1:1 - 2:3a) differs from thr creation story from 2:3b before they were conflated and passed as a singular story ergo lots of contradictions. The second story even gives god anthropomorphic features as i think you pointed out in another comment. The whole bible, same story plays out.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Asks His Member To Remove His Shoes At A Church Event by Lucifyre: 5:09pm On Dec 02, 2024
czarr:
Are you dumbb or something? You can't separate humanity and kindness from religion. Why do you speak about it like they are opposites. Almost all religions in the world preach love for humanity. Some of you are just being deliberately stuupid just to make some point that is not even pointing. Smh
Is this a joke or are you being purposefully dense or is it just willful ignorance?! Same religion that's responsible for deaths of millions throughout history some even belonging to the same religion but different denominations killing themselvez. Spin a different yarn abeg.
FashionRe: Miss Universe: Blond, Blue Eyes Winner Is Ultimate Evolution For Pageant - CEO by Lucifyre: 8:53pm On Nov 30, 2024
ukaface:
Story
Binary thinking and a shallow mind. No surprise really, carry on then.
FashionRe: Miss Universe: Blond, Blue Eyes Winner Is Ultimate Evolution For Pageant - CEO by Lucifyre: 6:46pm On Nov 30, 2024
ukaface:
If you are presented with a girl naturally dressed like them one of deeper life Church and another all dressed with the fake hair, make up and the likes. Who you go pick? Be truthful ooo
What kind of binary black and white thinking is this?! Since when are there only 2 extreme options void of nuance for any set of available choices?! Nevertheless i get ur point, even if poorly presented. If I'm presented with 2 options one who rocks her natural hair/african hairtsyles as against another who wears a hairtsyle they can never naturally have?! The first would be my option anyday cause it shows confidence in self.
Christianity EtcRe: The Letter Jesus Wrote Just Before His Crucifixion Found by Lucifyre: 6:30pm On Nov 30, 2024
RoiNews2:
I didn’t take it down. It’s still on YouTube. I just don’t want bad blood from Nairaland. It’s on YouTube and you can check it out. And nope! It isn’t false information. Maybe you not familiar with titles usage, and biblical histories. You probably didn’t watch the video. I ask again, what is the misinformation in the video?
I can only laugh at the bolded, by title usage you mean clickbait, frigging joke. Why would i watch a click bait, Ai regurgitating crap video without sources meant to clearly misinform. Even someone who started "biblical histories" yetserday knows the only undisputed claims known about the historical Jesus was that he was baptized and crucified, nothing more. Making claims about a letter using clickbait headlinez like its just been found when in fact its clearly apocryphal and a late interpolation with the timelines not matching, nor are there any such manuscripts containing said letter. Neither are these manuscripts referenced by authors of the earlier written gospels which were even still written decades later is plain misinformation. Not a single reputable source would back this your lie.
FashionRe: Miss Universe: Blond, Blue Eyes Winner Is Ultimate Evolution For Pageant - CEO by Lucifyre: 6:08pm On Nov 30, 2024
ukaface:
Why can’t African women be accepted for their natural hair? Why do we have to feel like we have ‘ landed’ when we put on this fake hair, I mean attachments and the likes😩
Basically inferiority complex with a dose of messed up self esteem. If you don't accept yourself, who would accept you. Herein lies the problem.
Christianity EtcRe: The Letter Jesus Wrote Just Before His Crucifixion Found by Lucifyre: 11:43am On Nov 29, 2024
RoiNews2:
This isn’t misinformation! And bold of you to think YouTube team wouldn't take their time to get the video before passing judgement. Can you tell us the misinformation in the video?
Its not misinformation but you took it down?!
HealthRe: Does Placing Strand Of Wool On Head Stop Hiccups? Paediatricians Say "No!" by Lucifyre: 10:56pm On Nov 28, 2024
Natbrowny:
People practice it. Its an old practice though.

If somtin is practiced by one generation, whether right or wrong, good or bad - other generations adopts it without questioning it. If u believe somtin works 4u, it will.. It's like giving a person vitamin C telling him/her that its a malaria medicine. The person looking for sound health will believe it and works in most cases.

This hair on babies is like placebo effect (not in medicine in this case though).

If u believe it works 4u, it will. That child may grow up and discard ur style and adopts another. The bottom line is result. We r all result oriented.
Your comment reminds me of the Monkey ladder experiment that demonstrates social learning conformity and the power of cultural norms. In the experiment 5 rhesus macaque monkeys were placed in a cage, a ladder was then introduced with bananas on top. Whenever a monkey climbed the ladder, the entire group was sprayed with cold water.

Initially, the monkeys were eager to climb to get the bananas, but after repeated spraying they associated ladder-climbing with discomfort. Eventually, no monkey dared to climb the ladder. when a new monkey was introduced to the group, it would attempt to climb.

The old guys would aggressively beat up the newly introduced guy. The researchers started replacing individual monkeys with new ones. Despite none of the original monkeys remaining the new monkeys still avoided climbing the ladder despite not knowing why not to climb it. I think same thing applies here, also people seem to forget that correlation does not necessarily equate causation.
Christianity EtcRe: The Letter Jesus Wrote Just Before His Crucifixion Found by Lucifyre: 8:23pm On Nov 28, 2024
Bwilliam:
Don't ignore content creators like this who intentionally spread misinformation.
Kindly report this channel to YouTube.
Thanks, reported it as well. This is why i find it funny when some ignorant people on here would use same youtube as a source authoritatively even with the massive amount of misinformation on there.
Christianity EtcRe: The Best Thing You Can Do For Yourself Is To Be An Atheist by Lucifyre: 5:15pm On Nov 27, 2024
jaephoenix:
The guy na beta clown.
He claims his success is due to his god. When exposed that there are better folks, he started mumbling about visions and hallucinations
Dude literally made me lol!
Christianity EtcRe: The Best Thing You Can Do For Yourself Is To Be An Atheist by Lucifyre: 8:37pm On Nov 26, 2024
GothamCities:
You need to point them out first, and let me know the miracles they've experienced in their lives as well as the instructions they have received that delivered them from coming danger. I'll like to know their assurance of salvation, their visions of heaven and their peace and joy that is not tied to their circumstances or situations.
😄
CelebritiesRe: Education Doesn’t Guarantee Knowledge & Davido Speaks Without Reasoning - Nihmat by Lucifyre: 8:08pm On Nov 25, 2024
Nigerians hate it when you hold up a mirror to their face revealing their true reflection. The cognitive dissonance is so strong because deep down they know they look like pure unadulterated shit.
RomanceRe: Woman In DINK Relationship Divides Opinion After Explaining The Benefits by Lucifyre: 7:06pm On Nov 22, 2024
I'll never understand Nigerians and frothing at the mouth like rabid dogs because someone chooses to live in a way that doesn't line up with their myopic world view.
TravelRe: Shock As Giant Whale Carcass Is Transported Through SA Streets - PICTURES by Lucifyre: 12:29pm On Nov 21, 2024
eepeepook:
Scenes like this make me proud to be human. The average human is a 5’8, 69 kg male. Somehow, he created equipment big enough to split mountains into smaller pieces — an act which would take nature thousands of years to accomplish. Look at the size of that behemoth. How many humans would it take to pull it from point A to B? One human being in a machine was able to drive it for possibly hours to a relocation spot. God? We are God.
The brain and opposable thumbs dude, those things gave us bastard advantages, its quite interesting. Dinosaurs were here before us bigger, stronger, faster but if the same thing that wiped them out reoccurs we have a much higher chance of survival cause of those 2 things and have made much progress than they could even dream or imagine. Our DNA has 98.8% in common with chimps but look what we've been able to do with that small 1.2% advantage in a relatively short period of time compared to the age of the universe, see the fucking pyramids predating even the sumerians. Truly fascinating! We are God?! Can't argue that.
FoodRe: Woman Found Wall Gecko In The Bowl Of Cereal She Was Eating by Lucifyre: 7:26pm On Nov 19, 2024
198800Mam:
Lies they ain't poisonous
Thank you very much. So much misinformation presented as facts and people have unfettered access to the internet to educate themselves.
Christianity EtcRe: Man Calls On Jesus As Cat Enters His House (Video) by Lucifyre: 3:01pm On Nov 17, 2024
Ignorance is truly a disease. This one most likely attended a university.

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