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There have been condemnations of the Oba’s words. Sadly, many of the condemnations from non-Igbo people have come with the ugly impatience of expressions like ‘move on,’ and ‘don’t be over-emotional’ and ‘calm down.’ These take away the power, even the sincerity, of the condemnations. It is highhanded and offensive to tell an aggrieved person how to feel, or how quickly to forgive, just as an apology becomes a non-apology when it comes with ‘now get over it.’
Other condemnations of the Oba’s words have been couched in dismissive or diminishing language such as ‘The Oba can’t really do anything, he isn’t actually going to kill anyone. He was joking. He was just being a loudmouth.’

The next thing for the Yorubas to do in order satisfy the Igbos is to cut the Oba's head.... We don't have the right to tell you how to respond, you also don't have the right to tell us how to respond to your response

Any group of people would understandably be troubled by a threat such as the Oba’s, but the Igbo, because of their history in Nigeria, have been particularly troubled. And it is a recent history. There are people alive today who were publicly attacked in cosmopolitan Lagos in the 1960s because they were Igbo. Even people who were merely light-skinned were at risk of violence in Lagos markets, because to be light-skinned was to be mistaken for Igbo.

Revisionist at work...... Why were they attacked? That's how hatred for a tribe is passed from one generation to another.

When Igbo people are urged to be ‘grateful’ for being in Lagos, do they somehow have less of a right as citizens to live where they live? Every Nigerian should be able to live in any part of Nigeria. The only expectation for a Nigerian citizen living in any part of Nigeria is to be law-abiding.

Agreed...... But you don't insult a tribe by re-writing their history through saying Lagos is no man's land. By the way, where were you during the last Anambra election? How come you didn't write all this long epistle to condemn Obi and Nzeribe for their politics of hatred?

This is what applying wisdom means...... It does not mean one is a fool.

The Oba Of Lagos must not apologise...... Their next point of call should be ICC. The Oba have spoken, anyone who's not comfortable with it should get ready to jump into the Lagoon. Rubbish.

Boss13:
FVVVCK you. I know more Lagos history than you do. Give me your last name and I will paste your ancestry tree here and prove you are no Lagosian original settler. See fool wan claim conquered land. Lagos has been a conquered land. First conquered by the Benins and later on the British.

Keep shut! What foolish history do you know? History that you are lifting from Wikipedia..... Who the hell pounded Yam for you and tells you soup is not difficult to get? You guys are crossing your boundary.

Texcoco:
[color=#1980BC] You are so naive like Aguiyi-ironsi,t[b]is people like you that will bear the backlash,not igbos who are alert and ready.Fyi,Akiolu statement will be acted upon in some capacity or the other whether Ambode wins or not unless we stand our ground and look them in the face after exercising our democratic rights ....If you want to live with them in peace from here on now then sacrifice one of your own to the lagoon.[/b][/color]

How is Igbo alert and ready? Rather this issue will raise unnecessary high level of resentment which if not checkmate will lead
to unrest. As someone said we all have friends, neighbours and colleagues who are Igbos....we all don't need this.

Texcoco:
[color=#1980BC] They have mixed up so much with the locals that have forgotten their heritage.The only way to charge down a yoruba threat into an harmless bluff is to face it with the threat of not only defiance but real force,kowtowing to them as he did will emboldened them to persecute or even kill igbos 'just put them in their place'.The fool's grovellin has just put igbo lives in danger... [/color]

Sharrap! The OP is not foolish like you.

OP, better person well said. I don't support what the Oba said but it behooves on everybody to respect our differences anywhere we are in this country in order for peaceful coexistence.

It's alright....... na over sabi is too much.

Kabiyesi ooo,ki Ade pe Lori,ki Bata pe lese ,Emi yin a gun,ki ase pe lenu yin....... Pele Pele o.

SirShymexx:
What type of competition are you alluding to? Lagos state at the moment has embarked on massive project, and obviously based on how naij is, it needs a lot of soft-landing from the center. And it's only right that it aligns with it, to execute and complete those projects. After this, they'll have no excuse whatsoever. That's the only sane place in naija that looks like a proper city - why mess it up? The place needs special recognition, to attain its potentials.

Moreover, isn't the PDP guy the same clown who said he'll reduce the price of land in Lagos? The plonker is a cowboy!

I'm just saying Lagos don't necessarily have to align with the central before things get done. But I'm one undecided voter........ I also want to witness what will change if Lagos align with the central.

The REC who couldn't read his handwriting..... The man who told the world that what he wrote was under special condition. PDP should fear God.

SirShymexx:
Can you see why I said women should never be allowed to hold sensitive position now due to poor judgement and decision making? You don't understand politics, do you?

This is a great opportunity for Lagos to enjoy a lot of goodies from the center by aligning with it for soft landing - why go against the grain by even contemplating voting for the opposition party?

You lot shouldn't mess things up for Lagos, else we shall extend the seven days ultimatum to women as well loool. Jk jk


The King is pissed looooool.

I beg to disagree..... There would rather be competition between the state and federal on what and best way to deliver the dividends of democracy to people of Lagos against the next election. So how else do they want to show off if they don't perform at the Federal level?

One of the reasons I love APC is because they don't mopped around....... Immediately they lose out, they have started preparing for the next election by showing off to people what they missed by not voting them.

Thank God, they are not basing their campaign solely on this.

Mynd44:
I don't even see why people think they need to lose sleep over Saturday sef. Agbaje can not win.

If anyone thinks Tinubu is about to lose Lagos (it did not happen when he was pitched against Obasanjo and you think it will happen when the loyalty of the police and army has changed), the person is kidding ( JK) the only reason the APC is throwing up a media party is that when the results come, nobody will come to say the APC cooked numbers up.

Agbaje will not get up to the numbers GEJ got in Lagos

I love your confidence. Personally, I'm torn between the two..... Both of them have impress me so far.

Scatterboss:
Sis, Dont believe that trash, an Oba can not say those words.

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I also have my doubt.

Mynd44:
You disappoint me if you believe Oba Rilwan Akinolu sat on the throne of his fathers and said this

That's why I said if truly emanates........ This past election has taught me how far and wide people will go for the sake of power. I'm definitely giving the Oba the benefit of doubt.

“By the grace of God, I am the owner of Lagos for the time being. This is an undivid­ed chair. The palace belongs to the dead and those coming in the future. On Saturday, if anyone of you, I swear in the name of God, goes against my wish that Ambode will be the next governor of Lagos State, the person is going to die in­side this water

If this statement truly emanate from the Oba, I'm definitely voting Agbaje...... Agbaje is also the son of the land who has the right to be voted for.

Fayose the king of thug is a disgrace to Governance...... I don't have any pity for him.

Please, please and please do not extend your thuggish attitude, lawlessnes and foolishness beyond May 29th..... Our incoming President will not tolerate it.

The people and not thugs have the right to choose their own leader.

The dress is suited more to an informal than a formal setting......But I won't go that far to say she was dressed as a prostitute. This is not an indecent dressing but arguably it's an informal dressing. She should demand a public apology from them.

sukkot:
we are evolved. we are wondering when you will join us. to be honest with you though, keeping it real : nigerian men are pretty forked up too. in short lets be honest nigerians as a whole are just a bunch of satanic people. i have not seen one person in that country i look favorably upon except mohammed buhari. thats the only person i can look at in that country and see an elder statesman with dignity and principles. the rest ? both men and women ? putting them in power is like asking to be driven by a gluttonous drunkard

At least you are being honest. I personally think we need a leader who's ready to reform the system and build structures that will endure. Do you think a single leader can do that? Shymex please also answer this question.

sukkot:
yeah they need to fall back. the era of buhari is here, no women in power. oh you will have power beside your man but not just power to lead us all to destruction like kleptomaniac frog eye and frog eye iweala. come to think of it they both got frog eyes lmao. must be where they hide all the money. under their e8ye lids. i am feeling real salty today

Nigeria men need to evolve and you guys have no choice but to evolve by the time women start using the power of their votes. All these are just ordinary bragging.

SirShymexx:
The president for example has absolute powers when it comes to certain issues. Heck, even Obama showed that a few months ago with his executive power.

Then, when it comes to finances of a country, defence, source of foreign exchange (in naija's case: petroleum), etc..

And GEJ did give the woman and Iweala free hands to run the show.

All these power emanate from the national assembly and subjected to the law court. So I disagree it's absolute.

SirShymexx:
If women are given a free hand to run the world - they'll destroy the planet.

So, the guy's argument's right on the money. Not everything is sexist.

Anyway, I love women - but they need to fall back when it comes to sensitive issues and let men take the initiative. They can always contribute, though.

SMDH.

SirShymexx:
Hence I cited sensitive positions cos those types of positions do come with absolute powers - and you have to make certain decisions in real-time without consultations.

Please example of position(s) with absolute power in democratic setting.

Gbawe:
No. Allison-Madueke, like GEJ, is innately corrupt and unprincipled by nature. Okonjo Iweala may not be corrupt but she is certainly unprincipled, a lair and complicit in the fiscally irresponsible and profligate leadership of Nigeria that Jonathan got away with. I really don't know if you are trying to tell us that women cannot be criminal-minded and unprincipled without a man, Jonathan this case, being responsible for their conduct. I hope this is not what you are saying .

Absolutely not. My issue is with posters painting women generally with the same brush use in painting Maduekwe

SirShymexx:
If I were to say, don't put a woman in the ring with Floyd Mayweather - I'm sure you wouldn't call it "sexist", would you? Well, not everything is sexist, the truth is just bitter sometimes.

When it comes to critical decision making that involves grave consequences, especially ones that can make or mar anything, you can't let women take charge, without adequate supervision by men.

The same excuses you're giving now, were out forward when Hillary Clinton was selected to become US Secretary of State, and how a woman would make the world more peaceful. However, she ended messing everything up with her undiplomatic ways and useless Arab spring that destroyed decent countries - hence she was thrown out of there, before destroying everything.

There's a reason that despite the fact that there are more women on this planet - men run the show everywhere, especially governments. Even out here in the UK - apart from Theresa May, there's no woman in the government with a very sensitive portfolio. Ditto US - though they have a few female figure-heads there, who are controlled by certain men via a doctrine.

Life isn't perfect, Sis - and don't get emotional now.

Shymex have you ever wonder why there are check and balances generally in government? It's because governance in general is very critical to be left in the hands of few without supervision.... Also the constitution recognised absolute power corrupt . Have you ever wondered why the President have so much advisers on so many issues? Because he's not expected to know all but must have sufficient knowledge before taken any decision.

That's why I see the bolded as a personal insult when even the men in government are not expected to make decision single handedly.

SirShymexx:
There is absolutely nothing sexist about saying women shouldn't be given a free hand (without proper guidance by men) to control very sensitive positions, which require emotional calmness.

Hillary Clinton was an epic failure as the US secretary of state, and will go down as the worst ever in US history. The only reason why Angela Merkel is decent is because she's part of a coalition government and while she's the face of it, she doesn't run the show. Frank-Walter Steinmeier and the German manufacturing industry pull the plugs behind the scene when it comes to how Germany deals with foreign policy/affairs - while other folks run the show within Germany.

Letting women control certain positions is a recipe for disaster.

This unarguably is a sexist remark... Since independent men had always been in the so called sensitive position, what have you done with the emotional calmness........ You have destroyed this country with your emotional calmness! I believe we need more women to checkmate the high level of testosterone running amok along the corridors of power.

Gosh! I can't believe I'm arguing along this line. Shymex don't quote me again.

ollah1:
GEJ fixed women with the affairs on a troubled country like Nigeria
Women were ministers in finance and petroleum. Some of the most sensitive positions in the country. He even placed okonjo slightly below the vice president.

The names u listed can't try bull shit in their countries.

Personally, I think those women failed because Jonathan is weak, dull, corrupt and unprincipled. Because I always wondered why Iweala performed excellently under Obasanjo but performed woefully under Jonathan.

50calibre:
Can you please shut up!! Your idiotic comments are beginning to irritate me.

Simpletons & pseudo feminists like you are quick to name drop Angela Merkel & Hilary Clinton (which by the way, is best known as a former First Lady), forgetting they actually earned/maintained their positions through diligence & uprightness.

Women in Nigerian politics, have proven themselves to be just as proficient (if not more) as men in the art of stealing. Most of them are actually worse than men because not only are they as inefficient as their male counterparts, they're also better thieves.

Being a woman is not an excuse to get anything you don't deserve, shove that anti-sexist propaganda up your as*s. Julia Gillard the former PM of Australia was a woman, when Australians got tired of her shi*tty government, they kicked her as*s to the curb and elected a man.

You indeed have comprehension issue, I'll advise you to re-read what you quoted. But I'll agree with you being a woman is not an excuse to get what you don't deserve...... But it's also not an excuse to demonize other women all because Dieziani feck up.

cyril83:
Stop pretending, you know what am saying and you are not excluded.

Women never satisfied.

I think is general. Humans generally are never satisfy.....that's why I hope and pray Buhari build structures that will make corruption unattractive.

cyril83:
Gender has lot to do with africa/naija politics, our women are known for their greed.

Oh really! Please tell me more. So because all this oloshos you are carrying up and down fleece you from your money therfore women are greedy. Well done.

cyril83:
Shut the phuck and stop comparing God fearing, cultured , benevolent and liberal women with greedy folks in africa

You are stupid idiot for not realising gender doesn't have anything to do with corruption..... You are even more of a fool for daring to judge a case on gender basis and not on individual basis.