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adeolaademuluyi:
Argument is one thing I don't indulge in, I'm happy you are female. When you have or already have kids leave your kids to be taking things like sweets, buscuits etc from school. I'm almost 50 and I have had enough experience. You don't know that your mind can be controlled against your wish too.? Research before saying something is fable, I don't mean reading books alone. I have also been on the dark side for a long time. I don't talk as an observer I talk out of experience.

I'm happy you're a man. I hope you get to realise how powerful you're when you get to walk with God and stop allowing the lies of this world create unnecessary fear in you.

Therealev:
Seriously? Since you sound religious, I'll refer you back to your religion. Did Job gave the devil authority over him? Was he disobedient to the word of God? Bros argue with the Tribulations of Job. I don't agree with your input.

God bless you for raising this beautiful point. First of all to answer your question, I'll have to tell you the purpose of man on earth. You are created by God to be obedient to Him

But I'll also tell you the Devil's purpose, the devil was created by God to test or tempt man.

So you see the devil will throw everything at you to be disobedient to God but what he doesn't have is to make you carry out the act of disobedient.

So let's go back to Job. We all know the story of Job, how God betted everything he has on him. How God bragged about him that no matter the temptation the devil raise against him, he will not fall.

Can God bragged about any of us like Job? That no matter the Tribulations, no matter the temptation, we'll still remain obedient to him.

adeolaademuluyi:
Have you seen, not heard of children initiated into things they never knew about just by sweets and biscuits they ate from kids that are members?

It's Fable! What kind of initiation is that without the necessary rituals. For crying out loud, you will have to be in their meeting and eating food will not take you there. They need your authority to initiate you.

Are you being led by God to do it? Your giving should be in obedience to God. And not by fear of what someone wants to do with your money.

OP, I beg to disagree with you. We all have different ministries. Whether you know it or not we need men to counter the narrative of the Atheists if not there won't be anyone left to preach all what you listed above to.

But who are the tithe meant for? Deu 28:14 says
And the Levite, because he has no portion nor inheritance with you, and the stranger and the fatherless and the widow who are within your gates, may come and eat and be satisfied, that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do.

So even if he's not giving to the Pastor? Is he giving to strangers? Is he giving to the fatherless? Is he giving to the window? The law of giving works for those who follow its principles.

To reiterate what I said earlier, giving should be by the leading of the Holy Spirit, Including your tithing. I know the Bible said bring your tithe into my storehouse. But what's the storehouse? You're the storehouse. You're the temple of God. It simply means before you spend that money ask God how he wants you to spend it? Christians grow up.

Xinzu:
Feminist kwa?

Yeah! My God's a Feminist.

Thank you for this beautiful question. Nobody can force you to join anything without you knowing it except you're not sane.

Let's even assume you mistakenly got to their meeting by mistake, did they put gun to your head to start partaking in their rituals.

The power to do right or wrong is in the hands of men.
The power to be obedient or disobedient is in the hands of man
The devil don't have authority over you except the one you gave to him willingly due to your disobedient to God's words.

Any pastor can come to pulpit and preach what he or she has been led to teach. But what's critical as God's children is obedience to the Spirit. As you are led by the Spirit. Give according to how you're led by the Spirit.

The issue is most people insist on being babies when it comes to their relationship with God. That's why any jack and Harry can come to the pulpit and micromanage them because they refuse to grow up.

Testing whether the power to open a thread has been returned to me by oga at the top.

*singing*

You are Yaweh
The ancient of days
Th God who's foolishness is wiser than the wisest of men
The God who clothe Himself with the truth
I testify you are God

You are Yaweh
The ageless wonder
The God who drink obedience
The God who eat obedience
The God who inhabit obedience

You're Yaweh
A Feminist
A lover
The wisest
The powerful

frank317:
Lol... Babe,do u still have that ur Ur sweet smile?

Guy that your scoping no fit work on top my head. Especially now that I've receive Christ as my Lord and personal saviour.

Anyway to issue that matter.. .. .. . How far your writings na? Have you published any book?

It's not wise. But there are instances that won't make it possible for you to be committed to the weekdays services. So what should one do? Be like Daniel who I'm learning from. Create an altar in your heart. Create personal time to worship him, if you're like me make it 3 times a day, and read the Bible for 20 minutes. If you can't worship Him aloud, worship Him silently in your heart. It has been doing wonders in my life.

coolestchris:
prove that they are not scammers

I never claimed they are not scammers. You made a claim, you should prove it.

Prove logically that all pastors are scammers.

*nodding head*

GodsMopol:
I will translate that to mean Christians don't have guardian and warring Angels around.All the best. Bye

I'm beginning to feel like I'm speaking to a wall. Hebrews 2:6-7

6 But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man that thou visitest him?

7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:

Emphasis on little lower than the angels. Can you command someone that's superior to you?

Calvary greetings to you too. In this season of prayer and fasting, Let's add obedience to God's words. Prayer and fasting and still living a life of disobedience is waste of time and strength.

GodsMopol:
I think our view about authority differs. Angels in book of Daniel came whenever Daniel prays, meaning, when we pray. This Angels are released. Acts 12, the church prayed and an Angel came down. Now, we can't manipulate angels to do whats not the will of God as stated in Psalms 103:20, Heb1:14.

My submission, Angels are only to help us carry out that which is in the will of God, provided we are hiers of salvation-born again.

When I meant ministering spirit and innumerable angels, I meant we could put them to use by declaring that which is paramount and perfect will of God. bye

I think you should read the OP Submission again. But to end this argument. The same Act 12:5 says

5 Peter therefore was kept in prison: but prayer was made without ceasing of the church unto God for him.
Their request was made known to God and not to an angel.
Commanding an angel is waste of strength and time because it doesn't recognize you.

kkins25:
ive been asking but no understandable reply

He can never answer it. If one want to expose people like him, just ask for scriptural verse.

Mille:
Sorry Ma'am, but I'm curious.

How did he tell you? Did he call you, text you or you heard a voice up from above?

What language did he speak? Igbo? Yoruba? English? French? Spanish? or Arabic?

At least from your words, we know God is Masculine. Maybe you can tell us if he sounds like a young or old man?



No offence. I'm just curious.

Sir, the answer to your question will be gotten when you decide to have a personal relationship with Him. Sir there's nothing I can say that won't seems foolish to you.

GodsMopol:
my question ma(about Heb 12:22. I believe Angels are ministering spirit sent TO minister FOR the hier of salvation, evidently, the born again Christian. Heb1:14, Psalms 103:20)

God have sent them, we are to in turn send them TO

by the way, nice perf, whats the name? yea, of the perfume.

Hebrews 12:22 says

22 But ye are come unto mount zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

Sir, there's where here stating we can command the angels. But let's go to Hebrews 1:14

14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Emphasis on sent forth and ministers. When you look at instances where Angels are sent forth in the Bible, who is the person that sent them? God.

And when we look at the messages they delivered, throughout the Bible have they ever respond to a personal request? Of course No, they have been delivering messages from God to people who are not expecting it in circumstances that are not ordinary.

Let see Psalms 103:20

20 Bless the Lord, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.

This verse is emphasizing on my point. Our request should be made to God in the name of Christ. For now, we have no authority over them.

superhumanist:
It is okay. I'm sure that they too feel that you are not a christian.

"A kingdom divided against itself shall not prosper".

Your quote doesn't make sense.

Who are Christians? Christians are followers of Christ's teachings. So if your belief is contrary to Christ's teaching then you're obviously not a Christian.

superhumanist:
This is not true, ma.

The mormons have their own bible while some other christians believe that Jesus is just a prophet and not a son of God. Christians do not believe the same thing.

Then they are not Christians.

swave7, I want you to pray this short prayer and I'll be praying it with you. You have nothing to lose.

My Father who hath in heaven,
Wash me with the blood of the Lamb
Forgive me of my trespasses
Lead me and guide me from this time on and henceforth.

When you finish, take the Bible and read for 20minutes. You have nothing to lose.

NPComplete:
What's today? Thoughtlessness Pride day? I just accused u of being thoughtless and naturally I expected u to exude more caution and thought in your reply to me instead this is what I get: a confirmation that my initial conclusion about u was right.

You do realise atheists also have a collective disdain for religion as their central theme, right? And they all do not believe in any deity whatsoever. So remind me what point you were trying to make by that stupid reply.

Let your next reply to me be more measured and show you have start applying thought to your comments. Here's a method that should help u; don't post the first thing that comes to your mind. Think first. Then just before you post it, think again. Cheers

Wailer. So I've been having a discussion with a Wailer.

GodsMopol:
Loooooool, mamajeje, I would say its a Christian thread. All the ops is trying to talk about is what I term the believers authority.

Do you know the Bible in Heb 12 around v24 spoke about innumerable numbers of Angels?

Okayy. If you say so.

GodsMopol:
I guess Ops addressed that.

My opinion, this thread made FP but the number of comments is mind blogging

He didn't.

If it's Christianity bashing thread you will see them coming like a bee

NPComplete:
There u go shooting yourself in the foot. Something very characteristic of thoughtless people. Even you Christians don't have an exact set of stands you all subscribe to. That's why there are so many denominations that believe in so many different things. By your logic you Christians are equally confused.
Take your own advice.

Says who? We all have the Bible as our central theme. We all believe in Christ. So repeat your point again.

superhumanist:
I am not confused. I am seeing very clearly.

There are positive messages in humanism and secular morality. For instance, I tell people to do good for goodness sake (and not for any religion or god)

If you have some spare time, please do some reading on secular morality. Here is a link if you are interested; http://www.atheismandthecity.com/2013/02/a-case-for-secular-morality-objective.html

You are still confused. Do all atheists subscribe to this your stand or it's just you?

My personal advice to you which you can't buy with money, stop doing follow follow. Stop your attache mentality and go back to God.

OP, you're confused like your fellow Atheists and I will tell you why. What do they want to evagelise? They have no Constitution. They have have no principles. They have nothing to sell. They have no unique selling point.

Their reason for existence is majorly based on pulling Christianity down. You can't grow with that kind of negative philosophy. You have nothing positive to sell.

Confused elements minus my friend Frank317 and Seun who's working round the clock to resolve my issue.

Oga OP, authority has not yet been to man to start commanding Angels. The only Authority Christ gave to you is in Luke 10:19

Behold, I have given you authority to tread upon serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall in any wise hurt you.

The angel will only work for you in your obedience to God's instructions and not in your commandments.