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nyameke: Not trying to jump into you and buzugee argument but you have to know that a phobia is of the mind and all things are of the mind.. Mind is spirit and spirit is mind. They are all one and the same..So in essence one can say a phobia is spiritual/mind.. And thus your phobia is spiritual. Ain't got nothing to do with religion though

Nothing spiritual about the mind. Just a description of the thinking aspect of the brain. No brain, no mind.

tintingz: i have given links that Islam is known in the world yet you want to argue for argument sake, what makes Jermaine Jackson, Micheal Jackson, Thierry Henry a france footballer, hollywood actor Chris Tucker to name the few embrace Islam if it's not known, guy abeg do research ok...and as for the woman or virgins which christians say mostly is just what western and your christians mumu scholar use to brainwashd and decieve you christians, no muslim even believ in promising virgins, the Quran stated Houris not virgins or women, there is noting like virgins in heaven if you have the verse in the Quran that mention promising virgins or women in heaven kindly qoute them out

Arent Houris virgins?

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Oh my God, you really are terrible at logic aren't you?[/quote]Lmao. Is that all you can say?

buzugee: says the grown azz cretin who is afraid of the dark

lol....says the edomite cretin who is afraid of white men

Macdaddy is logicboy.


However, you're not the first or 2nd to ask this foolish question.

Ihedinobi: lol... Sorry I laughed, not to insult your intelligence or anything, it's just that you've run right back of my argument. My argument is that the Bible's position is that you, not having the Spirit of God, cannot see the meanings of the Bible and therefore are in no position to fault it. Where you question it, you must be willing to accept the answer of a qualified interpreter (that is, a Christian) as at least worth examining. And this is not illogical. Court cases that involve specialist fields exemplify this, they are not examined without the advice of qualified persons in such fields.

Failed argument number 2;
Yaweh is not the same non-entity as Zeus, Horus, Allah, Ogun or Thor.

All religions have the exact same proof for their God; None. Dont you think that if there was a proof for God we would have found it by now. Over 2000 years there have been believers, yet no evidence.


I don't see your point here. The fact that there is no proof for Allah, for instance, has nothing whatever to do with Yahweh. If you will reject Yahweh, you must do so on Yahweh's own demerits, not Allah's.

Two "failed" arguments...and that's only a start in on the many? I'm a little disappointed. I quite expected to be overwhelmed.

Look at this joker! You have no rebuttal to my first point other than; "you dont have the spirit to interpret the bible."


As for my second point, it still stands. There exists the same proof for Allah and Yaweh- both from illogical and cavemen-made holy books

buzugee: IMAGINARY ? NO. WHEN YOU SEE ME YOU SEE THE IMAGE OF GOD . seriously though when you look at anyone including yourself in the mirror you see the image of God because we are all made in his image. as such he is not imaginary.

Same argument can be made for anything.


You see me? You see a image of a reincarnated monkey.



very foolish argument

buzugee: yeah well i have come to bring you medicine for your pain. get your medicine right in this here link http://jcluforever.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/trust-in-the-lord.jpg

You ave problems, mate.


A phobia is not spiritual. What next? Somneone who has a phobia of small spaces (claustrophobia) is haunted by the boogeyman who lives in small spaces like closets and under the bed?

fridayiwere: Why are u wasting ur precious time arguing with dis unrepentant atheist? It a foolish thing trying to educate those who are happy to remain in their state of ignorance. Let him believes whatever he want to believe. After all, he was created a free moral agent. Sooner or later, he will realise that his limited by limitations to understand God who is unlimited by limitations.

See this ignoramus calling someone ignorant.


You believe in a god that there is no evidence for.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]If something is omnipotent, does it not have the ability to rest from an action?[/quote]Excellent question. This is what I wanted you to see. How your God becomes a paradoxical impossibility.


What is rest? It is defined as stopping for a period of time, taking a break from something.

How can God rest if he is the beginning and the end? How can God rest for a period of time when he is beyond time? If God exists in the present and future, he is niether starting or stopping.



However, to be omnipotent, he should also have the ability to do anything, including the ability to rest. Which contradicts the argument above which shows that God can not rest due to never starting or stopping since he is beyond time.



An unsolvable paradox. Tow possible contradictions. An impossiblity. Shows that God does not exist.


This mirrors the same argument- "can God create a rock that he can not move? If he can create it, he is not omnipotent because he is not able to move the rock- he cant do everything. If he cant create the rock he is not omnipotent because, he should be able to create everything. Omnipotence is impossible and God doesnt exist.

buzugee: atheists are afraid of everything. scripture do say

PSALMS 14 vs 1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

AND YALL KNOW A CORRUPT MAN THAT DOETH NO GOOD IS A WICKED MAN

PROVERBS 28 VS 1 The wicked flee when no man pursues: but the righteous are bold as a lion. THATS WHY ATHEISTS ARE AFRAID OF THE DARK. BECAUSE THE WICKED FLEE WHEN NO MAN PURSUES.

Buzugee, this is not your area of expertise. There is no Edomite thing here abeg.

Wrong question. As an atheist;


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[quote author=Mr_Anony]Lol, Since God is omnipotent, the notion of God not being able to stop or rest from an action is silly.
You are truly the polar opposite of logic indeed[/quote]That statement is logical. Why are you so ignorant. If something is beyond time, does it stop or start at particular time? If something can exist in different timelines, the past present and the future, can it be said to stop or start?

Use your brain. Everyone can see that you're being silly

FXKing2012: Are u capable of making just one statement without a word of abuse/insult? This tells a lot about your personality.

Sorry.

fumisko: Ok. You won. Happy now? But whether there is God or not at the end we would all know. Remember what we believe I.e as u said there is no God won't change the fact that there is one if we meet a God at the end of life. Of which am positive we would, and my believe that there is God won't change the fact that there is no God if there isn't at the end of life. But I know I won't have anything to loose. All I should praying for and longing for now is how to live a life pleasing to him so I can even make that heaven am so proud of and cant wait to see on that day. It's not just my bragging in the fact that there is God in this our arguement that he needs or cares about. But my heart and lifestyle that should glorify him in every way so am through wiith this argument.

Like I said in another thread, "people are greedy and because something works for them, they ignore the colossal damage it does to others".


You say that God exists? Is it the God of the old testament that permitted slavery?
You say that God exists? Is he Jesus Christ that was racist towards the Canaanite woman? (I came for the lost sheep of isreal and cllaing the woman a dog)


Furthermore, you say you have Jesus/God in your life. Where is God for the starving children in Africa? You read the bible because you are literate. What about chidlren with no food or education (illiterates)? Where is God for them. Because you think that God has provided for you, you think he exists.


You are willfully ignorant. You choose to live in this delusion because you like it and you think it works for you. Afterall, you are not starving like those children, you have internet connection and you're educated.


You sicken me.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]No he isn't. From where I am standing, his argument still holds strong[/quote]really? After, he has been debunked left and right?


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[quote author=Mr_Anony]You didn't say anything worth refuting[/quote]In summary, I have proven that if God exists and is omnipotent, he exists in different timelines. The notion of God stopping or starting or resting is silly.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Hmm, interesting thread, watching from the sidelines for now.[/quote]You dare comment? Your buddy is being destroyed

fumisko: The fact also that you can't prove a negative is your own point of view. Those who go to court because the were accused of stealing go to court to prove that "the did not steal" that's a negative. Most court cases are to prove a "I did not or we did not" so is that called a positive or what? Even atheists are trying to prove God does not exist. That's also a negative the are proving. So tell me who told you negatives can't be proved

Ignorance. If someone took you to court on the basis of stealing, you are innocent until proven guilty. All one has to do is nullify whatever argument the prosecution has.


You dont prove a negative.

@ Fumisko

1) Yes, I volunteer at an African charity

2) People like you give God the glory when good things happen but never say anything about god when bad things happen. God is good for giving me this jhob but the other jobless christians are being ignored by god? The starving children are being ignored by god?


3) "God sat dowm and watched his son die for us". Replace "god" with any other persons name and you would see how evil the first statement is. God that could choose to wipe out everybody's sin at the wave of a finger, sends his son on a suicide mission. Have you been brainwashed not to see the errors in such thinking?

4) Religious wars and geed in the name of God have left many people poor and starving. Even the christianity that you are so fond of came with slavery and colonization to Nigeria by Europeans. Christianity was used to justify the enslavement of Nigerians in the 16th century. Read your own history.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]When did you start counting?



Ok


God can also choose not to do some things


yes he has such an ability


yes too


Yes he has such an ability to exist beyond one timeline.
But then if God can do all things, He must also have the ability to choose to work within one timeline if he wishes.

you and logic are polar opposites[/quote]You didnt refute anything I said. Smh.

davidylan: I wasnt trying to sound like an angel either bro. I was only pointing out the fact that you wail and whine so much about others abusing you YET bat no eyelid insulting those who merely try to show you up for your clear intellectual incompetence.

Context. Did I complain on this thread about abusive people?

mostly complain about being banned when other abusive people are not. Dont be silly

caseless: theory of evolution is confined 2 d darkness, i guess. He dosn't bliv in GOd's existence, i'm sure he believes in d existence of darwin.

Ignorance.

Why dont you reject
-the theory of gravity
-germ theory


You reject a theory because it doesnt fit with your religion. You are the one in darkness

Yawn. So many failed arguments. Where do I start?



Failed argument number 1;
The bible is true/applicable to all aspects of life?
The bible is so immoral/contadictory that you cant even explain many things there to children. The old testament supports slavery (leveiticus 25;44 your slaves may come from the nations around you). The bible has laws against incest but Abraham married his step-sister. Adam is the parent (ribe clone parent) of Eve, yet the have children together


If the bible is applicable to all parts of our modern life, how does the bible relate to the internet? What if I download a video from youtube; is it stealing I am taking a copy of a video that has infite copies and life from a public domain. What about stem cell research? Can the bible legislate on that? No.


Failed argument number 2;
Yaweh is not the same non-entity as Zeus, Horus, Allah, Ogun or Thor.

All religions have the exact same proof for their God; None. Dont you think that if there was a proof for God we would have found it by now. Over 2000 years there have been believers, yet no evidence.

nyameke: Btw your post is very revealing. You might not realise it but it seems like even though you have consciously used reason and logic erroneously I might add to become an atheist your heart/subconcious mind still somehow acknowledges the spiritual.. Because all the catholic bla bla reasons you gave are nothing but excuses son..

Yeah...Yeah....

There is nothing revealing....just a guy wondering why he still has a phobia of the dark

InesQor: The Dark is only asking you, MacDaddy, "Who's your daddy?"

I'm the daddy!

davidylan: this from the same person whining to JeSoul about "abusive" people?
You ticked "christian" on forms for 22 yrs does not make you a christian bro.

What makes you a better christian than I was?

You have no standing at all to talk about abusive people. You dont want me to dig up your past comments. too many skeletons

FXKing2012: Why would I wanna debate a person who is out to insult me and blaspheme against my God? What called for the name-calling? Sometimes I wonder how matured people in here really are.

You deserve to be told how silly you are.


Next time, you wouldnt ask that silly question again. lol. An adult asking if someone has the spiritual standing to understand the bible as if there is no bible written in plain English

skillet: my broda, i have researched atheism nd it holds no water becos, the more matured u become, as an atheist, you realise that there is only ONE TRUE GOD.

in other words, atheism always give way to monotheism.

Which god would that be?


You are a joker

davidylan: why does this fear exist? Afterall there is no unknown according to you eminent scientists.

There is no unknown? Are you foolish? Everyone knows that there are things which we dont know.

Avicenna: Who isn't?

Where I'm familiar with, I'm not usually afraid even when its pitch black. My room, for instance, may not have light for nights, I just find my way to my bed and off I go.

But, someplace else,.........like in forest or something....

It has something to do with our inherent fear of the unknown. Its not a phobia sef. Don't let the internet macho men fool you. They probably can't stand a snake.

Thanks mate! It is just a phobia.


Its not like I have sleepless nights over it. Some christians are already saying that it is a spiritual sign! Lmao.

FXKing2012: Like I said, do u have the spiritual standing to understand the Bible?

I.mbecile.

Is it not the same thing a muslim will tell you about the Quran? Do you have the spiritual standing to understand the Quran?


I was a christian for 22 years. Accept the contradiction if you can not argue logically against it.