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Who was the last nigerian player to score a hat-trick in the top 5 league in europe and which year?
Cc thesupernerd,Icon4s,thegoodjoe,forgiveness,tbaba1234,safarigirl

Killuminati87:
Ive been following this thread for a very long time and have decided to comment regarding this Nacho issue. I was having a discussion with my friend who was complaining about how limited Nacho is compared to his U17 days. I told him he had simply been turned into a poacher by city. Another thing which he said that really caught my attention was how heavy legged Nacho looks at times. Contrary to what I've been reading on here, Nacho isn't mobile. He can't dribble, he has a poor first touch. I honestly hope he doesn't fizzle out because I've honestly not seen anything that makes me think he will be among the best players in the world.
I'm starting to get worried with our the 2013 U17 set. I know it's too early to tell, but their rate of development is not going that well.

bros that is your believe, me i believe he has what it takes to be world class.
Dribbling is not what that make you world class.
Musa yahaya with his great dribblig skills is behind nacho in times of development
treore of chelsea on loan at ajax, when he was at chelsea he was limited but at ajax you can see his crazy skills so i think if nacho move away from man city you will see his skills
And lastly goals are the first thing to consider when looking for world class strikers before other abilities and he has it in his locker
finally in sir Icon4s voice he is not there yet for world class tag but is geting there soon, and he is more than ripe for super eagles
#respect bro

jotey:
iwobi dn break up with him girlfriend o

cc: safarigirl

let me wait and watch his next game, if he inproved then i will respect safarigirl opinion about girlfriends

TheSuperNerd:
That is debatable... because Kelechi's name always seem to pop up in a manner that ambiguously means he is being made fun of......

NO
thegoodjoe has always been the one people make fun of when it concerns kelechi

TheSuperNerd:
And to you, you think you can tell which I love more.... if I do at all?

loooollll.... stop your assumptions and face the facts before you...

Iwobi is hardly criticed here... that says a lot. Only theGoodJoe said Iwobi deteriorated and You saw the legions that came to Iwobi's defence... including me.

Even Safarigirl have lashed Iwobi because of his social life and it was I who replied that Iwobi will never lose it...

so who do I love more.. if at all? looollll... mister... you can never ever guess it....

why will we ask him to leave if we don't love him
let me correct something the "drills" and other names called here are targeted at thegoodjoe and not kelechi

TheSuperNerd:
There are some who always never rated City and till now they still don't.... that is a fact.

Some don't think Pep is a class-act coach.


And during the golden boy awards... Iwobi finished ahead of Nacho and we focused on voting Iwobi more while sharing some to nacho... this was done because Iwobi was closer to the top position when the votings began than nacho....

So if na golden boy you wan use... Iwobi also has more fans... looooollll


But it is no hidden fact Naa.... Iwobi is hardly criticised here.... but Nacho gets the stick oftentimes... even when he plays, 10 pages can be exhausted just on discussing why Nacho failed to trap the ball in a game while ignoring that he also scored or gave an assist or did a nice move in that same game.


But me... I defend Iwobi as much I defend Nacho.... I love them both and also show love and regards for all our Nigerian players all around the world..... this is why I do my best to give all equal coverage here and not make the thread only about Nacho and Iwobi.

you said it your self iwobi was closer, if they were on par who will have carry the day?
No matter how you love them you must love one more than the other that is the fact and the truth.

TheSuperNerd:
There are some who always never rated City and till now they still don't.... that is a fact.

Some don't think Pep is a class-act coach.


And during the golden boy awards... Iwobi finished ahead of Nacho and we focused on voting Iwobi more while sharing some to nacho... this was done because Iwobi was closer to the top position when the votings began than nacho....

So if na golden boy you wan use... Iwobi also has more fans... looooollll


But it is no hidden fact Naa.... Iwobi is hardly criticised here.... but Nacho gets the stick oftentimes... even when he plays, 10 pages can be exhausted just on discussing why Nacho failed to trap the ball in a game while ignoring that he also scored or gave an assist or did a nice move in that same game.


But me... I defend Iwobi as much I defend Nacho.... I love them both and also show love and regards for all our Nigerian players all around the world..... this is why I do my best to give all equal coverage here and not make the thread only about Nacho and Iwobi.

you said it your self iwobi was closer, if they were on par who will have carry the day?

TheSuperNerd:
Kelechi is mostly talked about not because he is more loved...... it goes beyond the love.

Iwobi too is loved by all.... in fact, we have more arsenal fans on this thread than Man city fans... so Iwobi hardly faces criticism here.... that is the truth.

But Nacho... he is mostly talked about for many reasons and one of it is because Some just want to show that in Man city, Nacho is in the wrong club just because they don't fancy Man city.... and that drills and training adds nothing Much to a player forgetting that Ighalo deteriorated with playing time and that Rohr still gave him invites during his trying times yet he failed to deliver for us.

If Nacho was at Arsenal.... we won't be hearing this outcry.

I believe in being distinct in matters as sensitive as this. Do I want nacho out of Man City? Hell yeah.... ofcos I do want him out...

Does Nacho not playing make City a bad club? Hell No!

Is Pep an ass for leaving nacho on the drilling/training ground and even saying Nacho actually works hard in training and making some good progress and yet still not include him in matchday squads?? Yes he is... he is an ass.

Is pep a bad coach? Nope... he is one of the best but as a manger of men he is poor and has a lot to learn.

What should Nacho do now that Pep hasn't always rated him? Just focus on training and keep giving your best... make the most of the situation at least until Summer arrives...




These are my stands... I am being distinctive and not muddling it all up....

This is what I expect we as Analysts of the game to do.... be objective and fair in comments.

last season were we calling man city a bad choice?
When we were voting for golding boy award who has more fans in this thread?

Joebie:
I'm not sure why. I've been checking too.

i am not happy with the situation on ground, i hope he come back soon

TheSuperNerd:
As long they used unhealthy digs and insults before even today.... then they have always been immature

Or you haven't seen me also speak against the unhealthy digs before abi? you wanna pretend you didn't see it abi? Kwantinu


And about the summer... I have always been the one saying let us wait till summer.... but una no wan hear.... just calm down and watch what the summer brings.


And if you choose to display worst "immaturity"... abeg... that one na you oooo.... Nacho still won't give a damn.... looollll


So plsss all I am saying is free Nacho and let us see what the summer brings... it is not far off now is it?

#Patience Mehn... patience ...... between now and then, let him keep working and making the best of the situation...

I have learnt in this life that people who don't rate you and don't want to rate you just don't rate you.... even when we prove them wrong.

So biko... let summer come. Then if Nacho stays knowing that Pep still won't use him, then you guys can bring out your bombs and guns.... no wahala... while I take the back seat...

But until then, hold your fire....

if we are not his fans we will be asking him to stay and waste his talents.
look at iwobi despised his lack of game time we are not too worry, this tells you we love kelechi more that is why he is the most talk about player here.

safarigirl:
let us all pretend people just started throwing digs from the first day it was noticed Pep was done with Kelechi, let us all pretend that these same people never called for him to consider a January move. No, they just woke up on the 26th of April 2017 and decided to be immature.

Anyway, like I said, let me wait till summer. If Kelechi is still in a City jersey by then, I'll pull out my diapers and play the immature game better than anyone else

I go join you ma
#KCgetoutofmancity

If kelechi iheanacho refused to leave man city. I will not longer be his fan, he may not play any game again.
I AM SO SAD!!!!!!!!

TheSuperNerd:
The Reason Why Chelsea Loanee Omeruo Is On The Brink Of Being Banned By Turkish Federation

https://allnigeriasoccer.com/football_pics/98326Omeruo.jpg



Nigeria international Kenneth Omeruo is on the brink of being suspended by the Turkish Football Federation.

The Chelsea loanee picked up his seventh yellow card of the season in last weekend's clash against Osmanlıspor, and is one card away from a suspension going into Saturday's tie at Kayserispor.

Alanyaspor will be faced with a defensive crisis in the coming matches as two other defenders Georgios Tzavellas and Berkan Emir have three yellow cards each.

Kenneth Omeruo failed to keep himself out of the officials notebooks four times in his first 12 games in Turkey this season and served a one-match suspension against Besiktas.

The central defender has been yellow carded 32 times in his professional career and sent off twice.



**Ifeanyi Emmanuel





Source: http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=22857

Ifeanyi Emmanuel will not kill me
See title

Joebie:
It doesn't always apply. Watch and see.

bros, why has spotkik stop updating us

TheSuperNerd:
VICTOR MOSES MISSES EPL BEST OF AFRICA AWARDS
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By: Osita Duru on: April 26, 2017

https://www.thebreakingtimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Victor-Moses-570446.jpg


Chelsea star Victor Moses has been overlooked for the Premier League African Best XI for this season named by Best of Africa Awards. The Nigeria international has enjoyed his best run at Chelsea since he joined ‘The Blues’ in the 2012/13 season – 29 appearances and scored three goals in the league.


In the previous three seasons, Chelsea skipped him out on loan to Stoke City, Liverpool and West Ham.


But still the 26-year-old Moses was left out of a star-studded cast that included Pogba of Manchester United, Romeo Lukaku from Everton and Nigerian-born Dele Alli, who features for Tottenham Hotspur.


The 4-3-3 formation may well have knocked out Moses as he plays as a wing-back in a 3-4-2-1 formation at Chelsea.

However, Moses’ stellar performance in the EPL has earned him a place in the BBC Team of the Week.

He is making the team of the week for the fourth time this season, a sign of how influential and useful he has become for the title favourite.



The Best African XI

Steve Mandanda (Crystal Palace) – Bailly (Manchester United), Sakho (Crystal Palace), Matip (Liverpool)– Pogba (Manchester United), Kante (Chelsea), Yaya Toure (Manchester City), Wanyama (Tottenham Hotspur) – Alli (Tottenham), Lukaku (Everton), Sadio Mane (Liverpool)


Source: http://www.thebreakingtimes.com/victor-moses-misses-epl-best-of-africa-awards/

this is not fair, let me ask this question can dele alli, kante, pogba and lukaku be named APOY?
I am ashamed of the organizers for this award and this will make africa to lose more players, why will i play for an african country when i will get an award while playing for other countries

Chrismario:
Iwobi really needs to work and change some parts of his game.
I really like watching him but is like he forgets so often dat hes an attacker
His passes are predictable to some extent, no only that.....The boi no dae try keeper
He should learn more drills(permit me to use ur word sir) at training like trying posts atleast 4 times per match,,,,

i think he often shoot but what he need is always to hit the target

TheSuperNerd:
Apart for Fred and osayi.... Solomon Viv Otabor is another

fred need a look in before england does

forgiveness:
It's not yet clear but he is certainly leaving Chelsea this season.

RP Leipzig is in the forefront to get his service though Liverpool, Bayern Munich and others have joined the race to capture him for next season.

That is why this lad should be approached before he turn super star.

http://www.talkchelsea.net/transfers/dominic-solanke-has-reportedly-held-talks-with-rb-leipzig-over-move-to-german-club/

Thanks moderators for heeding to my humble plea. Once again, thank you.

solanke,osimhen,kelechi in german league at the same time will be a blessing
#pleaseGODmakethistohappen

terzurum5:
Have you forgotten what he did to South Africa?

All our best players were on the field, but we had to wait for Sone to save us the day.

Sir ear God oooo

then wait and see how rohr will isaac success and leave Aluko, then crucify him because that is what that is likely to happen and if i am in his shoes i will also do the same. chikena

Fabian seningar (sorry for the wrong spelling) how far with his development?

Any player with a nigerian blood or origin is a full nigerian to me if he like make he play for any country
I AM PROUD OF DELE ALLI

Spy360:
Dybala is looking at you and shaking his head...

dybala? Abeg give me another name

TheSuperNerd:
Sir Maidaboi.....

Pls pardon me but I won't wanna rate the players just yet as some on your list haven't actually don't much on a higher level. Some are still in the beginning years of their pro careers... while some others are still trying to break into their main teams and Begin to shine....

I will wanna speak based on current stats and not the past. So permit me to pass up on this one

But I kinda like Chief Icon4s' ratings... I recommend it except for a few juggles in positions I would make if permitted... like for instance, I personally would rate Ajagun above Ndidi in dribbling... but hey.... every one has an angle to their list okay.... so Chief Icon4s' resonates with me more....

carry on sir

TheGoodJoe:
In some list, some people listed Mikel.

i saw mikel and was confused

forgiveness:
The Oga on that list na Musa Yahaya

2, Moses Simon
3, Samuel Kalu
4, Onyekuru
5, Isaac Success
6, Alex Iwobi
7, Abdul Ajagun
8, Taiwo Awoniyi
9, Victor Osimhen
10, Kelechi Iheanacho

Icon4s:
It is also difficult to rate then on a scale such as what you proposed as they all play in different leagues with different levels of competition. Besides we have not really seen some of those players on that list in good enough action to judge.

However, I will put them in two categories and rate some of them comparatively in this order with number 1 being the best and down like that:

Group1:I have seen them well enough play as senior team professionals either at club levels and or Super Eagles:
1. Alex Iwobi
2. Moses Simon
3. Isaac Success
4. Kelechi Iheanacho
5. Oghene Karo Etebo
6. Henry Onyekuru
7. Wifred Ndidi
8. Abdul Ajagun
9. Chuba Apkom
10. Olanrewaju Kayode
11. Samuel Kalu
12. Stephen Odey

Group2: I have mostly seen them play as youth internationals. Never really seen enough of their post junior international games even at club level to judge. So my judgment here is based mostly on skills displayed at U17 and U20/23:

1. Musa Yahaya
2. Kelechi Nwakali
3. Victor Osimhen
4. Taiwo Awoniyi

I cannot rate Noah Obazee cos I have not seen him well enough.

from this two list i can say simon moses is the best

forgiveness:
The Oga on that list na Musa Yahaya

2, Moses Simon
3, Samuel Kalu
4, Onyekuru
5, Isaac Success
6, Alex Iwobi
7, Abdul Ajagun
8, Taiwo Awoniyi
9, Victor Osimhen
10, Kelechi Iheanacho

joseph1013:
He used to have a fairly good dribbling ability during his U17 days, and he showed glimpses of that during the Pellegrini era, though regressed. From what I have seen this season, the little dribbling ability he has has been drilled out of him. He now lacks that confidence of taking out outfield players. Another indictment of the Pep era on the young man.

i like players with good dribbling skills but not too much oooh!

Icon4s:
Why not?

Every footballer has dribbling skills.

What you do is to compare his with that of another footballer and ask who has more dribbling skills.

ok sir, please rate these players dribbling skills on the scale of 1 - 100%
kelechi iheanacho
victor osimhen
kelechi nwakali
samuel kalu
simon moses
henry oyekuru
alex iwobi
isaac success
taiwo awoniyi
obazee
chuba akpom
stephen odey
wilfred indidi
musa yahaya
ajagun

cc thegoodjoe, forgiveness, thesupernerd, joseph1013,komehn, goldfish, bascovenveli, tezurum5 and all the thread members please give your ratings

forgiveness:
This is how I rate these three players according to their dribbling skills.

1, Isaac Success
2, Taiwo Awoniyi
3, Kelechi Iheanacho

However, in the last match I saw Nacho played he showed flashes of dribbling skills.

wow even awoniyi pass him, i think if he can add good first touch with good dribbling skills to his game he will be a complete player

TheGoodJoe:
Yes he does but he cut down on it during his time at Manchester City. A good example was in his first pre-season game against Kansas. There was a delightful trick move he pulled off then.

thanks i have not seen him make an understanding dribbling

House does kelechi Iheanacho has dribbling skills?
cc icon4s,thesupernerd,thegoodgoe,forgiveness,tbaba1234,joebie,jotey,komekn,terzurum5,safarigirl,bascovenveli,joseph1013

Actually i wonder which club is the most hated in the world, the way people hate barcelona,chelsea,mancester united e.t.c and i am confused i have seen around my area that barcelona is the only club supported by it fans only in my area ooh!, what about your area

komekn:
It's essentially because it was being hailed as a break through that Chuba has switched to play for the SE.

Very compelling photo of him Aina and Amaju. Pictures tell stories too.

Playing for Arsenal doesn't mean you are exceptional unless you break into first team. Arsenal is not Chelsea.

Meanwhile I digress watched FA youth Cup Final yesterday first leg. Manchester city vs Chelsea. Seen one Nigerian midfielder uwakwe looked amongst the other Nigerian origin promising players on both sides

i think aina is the one we talk about most times here not akpom
what about others nigerians players performance?