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Elohim1:
It Would Be Easier If U said U Cant Answer Just Like The Rest Of Them So Run Along

Elohim1:
Are We Gonna Go Over This Again Now Its No Longer The Law Its Grace?? So It Wont Affect U If Ur Child Becomes Homosexual?? Cause We Are Saved Under Grace And Not The Law?? Answer This Honestly

Scholar8200:
indeed blessed among women, not girls!

4kings:
'Blessed among Women': cos d word 'women' would be appropriate in that context rather than 'girls'.

Mary's trip: camel existed in those days.

And besides, this claim is included in Catholic encyclopedia and was made by ur early church fathers not atheist.

Elohim1:
This Is The Same Reason Boko Boys Bomb You Guys Worshipping Other Gods From Ur Write Up It Seams U Are In Support Of Their Action??

4kings:
Joseph and Mary. Age(90 and 12) respectively.

Source: https://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/30/marriage-of-mary-to-joseph-the-carpenter/

9inches:
Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, No one comes to the Father except through me".

Do muslims believe that? Do they pray "in Jesus' Name"? Keep deceiving yourselves thinking Muhammad is in heaven.
For your information, Christians bow, kneel, stand, sit, as well as lay on the belly, hands up, fold arms, etc.. to pray. Christians pray, fast, give alms, do good deeds, etc... out of free will and not by a forced belief system. You do not know Christianity and you are talking rubbish.

hopefuLandlurde:
Missionary objection against Numbers 31:18

One of the baseless arguments raised against Numbers 31:18 by Evangelists is that they say ‘it does not sanction Child marriage’

{kindly read these verses by yourself cuz mods keep banning me for it}

HopefuLandlurhd:
Dr Judith E. McKinlay also mentions that the Bible ‘seems’ at times to turn a blind eye and allow ‘free romance’ commenting on Numbers 31:18.

“Where the texts have a concern for the circumcised status, this clearly does not apply to women! And where there is a concern for lineage the importance of patrilineal descent meant a lesser concern regarding the potential mothers. So, in the war against Midian, Moses says to the people in Num 31.18 that of the captured Midian women, ‘all the young women who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves’. AT TIMES IT SEEMS AS IF THE BIBLE WANTS TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO THE MATTER ALTOGETHER AND ALLOW FREE ROMANCE A FREE HAND.”[8]

DeSepiero:
I have seen Jesus too, severally. On wallpapers and cathedrals But his face isn't ever consistent.

Seun:
What does being hungry have to do with hearing a voice? Doesn't your stomach make distracting rumbling noises when it's empty? If God created the entire universe by speaking it into existence, surely his voice must be loud enough to be heard by both the hungry and the well fed?


Really? You need the voice of God to tell you to slow down when approaching a 'serious steep slope and a double sharp bend'? May I suggest that what you heard from inside wasn't the God's voice but the voice of sense? You were driving recklessly, but came to your senses just in time.

Seun:
I rarely post topics on the home page. Lalasticlala and Mynd44 are both Christians.

truthmans2012:
Are you a newbie on nairaland?

You mean they don't put anti-Christian thread in the front page?

Do you know it is against their policy to put anti-islam thread in the front page? Why? because the spirit in them does not tolerate critism, yet atheists are their allies.

I tell you the truth: the spirit of islam is also in the atheists and other cultists. When muslims kill innocent people in the name of allaah, it is these same atheists who will come out saying there is also killing in the Bible, as if their act is good. I wonder where they found in the Bible where God commanded anyone to kill for him. They have no evidence of Christians bombing muslims for not believing in Christianity. My prayer for atheists is to reap the reward of your faith in islam by experiencing bombings. Even though they falsely proclaim their is no God, yet they are allaah's supporters. Bunch of hypocrites.

malvisguy212:
Adam was created without the agency of
a human father or mother because, as
the first man on earth, he could not have had earthly parents. Such an act of
creation was necessary at the beginning
of the world of mankind. Someone had to be created first. But in the case of Jesus, he was born without a human father when God’s natural process of
procreation had long been in existence.
Here we see God interrupting the course of nature, and overriding the very laws of procreation that he had himself established, in order that Christ might thus have a virgin-birth. Why? Surely such an act could not have been without meaning. It points to the profound truth that Jesus Christ held a very special relationship with the One who was the architect of this miraculous conception – a relationship that is shared by no other prophet. The birth of no other prophet has been anything as remotely close as the miraculous conception of Jesus Christ.

To deny that God does anything without
a purpose behind it amounts to a denial
of God himself. ( Surah 38:27) In the
Qur’an, it is the very absence of such a
clearly defined purpose in the unique
conception of Jesus, which perplexes the seeker of truth as to the meaning behind this miraculous birth.

malvisguy212:
Surah 56:17-18: “They will be served by immortal BOYS, With cups, and jugs, and a glass from the flowing wine.” (Hilali-Khan)

plappville:
Ishmael,Muhammad and muslims are all cursed. Proof is all over. As for Ishmael, i dont think he ever bomb or used a Kalasnikof...

iamrockyofficial:
For those of us that have been conversant with the history of ancient religions and mythology you will discover that there were some God men that not only shared characteristics of a saviour like Jesus, but they share similar striking stories.. Am talking about the likes of horus

Horus supposedly:
Was conceived by a virgin mother named Meri, and had a stepfather named Seb (Joseph)
Was born in a cave, his birth announced by an angel,
heralded by a star and attended
by shepherds
Attended a special rite of passage at the age of twelve and there is no data on the
child from the age of 12 to 30
Was baptized in a river at the age of 30, and his baptizer was later beheaded
Had 12 disciples, Performed miracles, exercised demons, raised someone from
the dead, walked on water
Was called “Iusa”, the “ever-becoming son” and the “Holy Child”
Delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”, and his followers recounted his sayings
Was transfigured on the Mount
Was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and was resurrected
Called “Way”, “the Truth the Light”, “Messiah”, “God's Anointed Son”, “Son of Man”, “Good Shepherd”, “Lamb of God”, “Word made flesh”, “Word of Truth”, “the KRST” or “Anointed One”
Was “the Fisher” and was associated with the Fish, Lamb and Lion.
Came to fulfill the Law, and was supposed to reign one thousand years.

Same goes to krishna and a host of other's, I need constructive views as to why we have this occurrence .

Ranchhoddas:
Interesting. So you disagree with the Genesis account?

pdppower:
Might be old, but check today's Vanguard

Scholar8200:
The use of the word adoption is just to differentiate the children by faith from the only Begotten One. Jesus said in that same John 3 that to be born of God is to be born of the Spirit, so says Paul:

6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Galatians 4:6


That's purely a figurative use! Even Jesus said this:
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
Mark 7:12

But Jesus Himself appointed shepherds:
He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
John 21:16

This was said to Peter.The same Peter wrote:

feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3 neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. 4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.
1 Peter 5:2-4

Lest I forget:

20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen
Matthew 28:20

You are ignoring what was condemned in the sermon on the mount namely praying in public with the intention to be seen.. Else, what of the prayers in public in the Ot that were graciously answered eg Hannah praying in the Temple.

The same Paul circumcised Timothy!!! The point Paul was making in Galatians was that we dont get circumcised in order to be saved! Even the council at Jerusalem in Acts 15 agreed with Paul's position!!!


Jesus said thus:
And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for [size=15pt]the labourer is worthy of his hire[/size]. Go not from house to house.
Luke 10:7

Agrees perfectly!!!

Jesus denounced the pharisees that were doing similar actions of deception being perpetrated by Paul's references:

Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Matthew 23:33 (Read the whole chapter).

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Matthew 18:6


Now sir, this is malicious! Paul simply quoted from Proverbs 25:21,22!!!

Paul, persecuted and misrepresented in life and death!!!

pdppower:
By Femi Aribisala

Paul seduces Christians from following Jesus into following him.

Jesus warns: “False christs and false prophets will arise and perform signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect. But be on guard; I have told you all things beforehand.” (Mark 13:22-23).

Paul performed many signs and wonders. (Acts 19:12). Today, the word of Paul is presumed to be the word of Jesus. Indeed, Christians use Paul’s word to preach far more than that of Jesus. Can Paul be one of the “false christs” Jesus warns us about? The evidence suggests so.

Jesus’ impersonation

Paul met Jesus as a disembodied voice on Damascus Road. Nevertheless, he says: “It pleased God, to reveal his Son in me.” (Galatians 1:15-16). This indicates he is determined to present himself as something of a reincarnation of Christ. He then commends the Galatians: “Though my condition was a trial to you, you did not scorn or despise me, but received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus.” (Galatians 4:14). But Paul is not Jesus, so why in heavens name should he want to be received as Jesus?

Paul says: “I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me.” (Galatians 2:20). He even says he has Jesus’ crucifixion marks in his body. (Galatians 6:17). However, Jesus never says anyone would be crucified with him; not even figuratively. Instead, he says his disciples must carry their own crosses: “If anyone desires to come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.” (Matthew 16:24).

Rather than be crucified with Christ, Jesus maintains his disciples should lay down their lives for others, just like he does: “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.” (John 15:12-13).

Paul’s impersonation of Christ continues with his assertion that he has “the mind of Christ.” (1 Corinthians 2:16). But the same Paul says: “I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing.” (Romans 7:19). This double-minded confusion is certainly not suggestive of someone who has the mind of Christ.

Obeying Paul

Paul insists unquestioned acceptance of his tenets is the sole determinant of true spirituality: “If anyone thinks that he is a prophet, or spiritual, he should acknowledge that the things I am writing to you are a command of the Lord. If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.” (1 Corinthians 14:37-38).

He insists whatever he says must be deemed to come directly from God. Accordingly, he commends the Corinthians: “When you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God.” (1 Thessalonians 2:13). This should send alarm-bells ringing to true believers.

Whoever disobeys Paul must be ostracized: “If anyone does not obey what we say in this letter, take note of that person, and have nothing to do with him.” (2 Thessalonians 3:14). Paul then threatens the disobedient with the witchcraft of “weapons of warfare” which he claims are “mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.” (2 Corinthians 10:4).

Saviour of men

Jesus says: “I will build my church.” (Matthew 16:18). Nevertheless, Paul usurps Christ’s position by claiming to be the one who laid the foundation of the Church of God: “God was kind and let me become an expert builder. I laid a foundation on which others have built.” (1 Corinthians 3:10). However, he refuses to build on another man’s foundation. (Romans 15:20).

He personalises the gospel, calling it “my gospel” (Romans 16:25); a claim even Jesus does not make. If Paul’s “gospel” seems dubious to anyone, he insists it is because the person is blind: “If our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them who believe not.” (2 Corinthi

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/07/s-paul-a-false-christ/

omokab:
Truely the media is not friendly to islam as a religion all over the world.

RENOWNED2:
Am neither an atheist or Christian, infact,I've never been a fan of name branding but just wanted to ask a quick question. Here goes.

Some Christians use the logic that anything that shows any sort of intelligence must have been created by an intelligent being ie God but they forget that this logic goes both ways.For example some of you say things like" look at the stars, moon,us humans,we had to be created by an intelligent being because nothing this good can come by chance".

But the thing is God is also an intelligent being ie assuming he created the earth. So, does that mean that God was created by another intelligent being

Or,if he was formed out of nothing then, why is it so hard to you to believe that the universe or humans are product of the same

Thoughts??

ipreach:
''But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.'' Matthew 5:28

SirWere:
I like his attitude, his persona.

Doesn't mean I believe everything he said

true2god:
I saw this in page 175 of this book and Muslims can help explained if what the prophet said here is scientific or mere
superstition:

Narrated Abu Hurair a: The Prophet said, "Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of you (during the act of yawning) should say: 'Ha', Satan will laugh at him."
Sahih Bukhari 4:54:509

Allah Likes Sneezing but Hates Yawning:

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah likes sneezing and dislikes yawning, so if someone sneezes and then praises Allah, then it is obligatory on every Muslim who heard him, to say: May Allah be merciful to you (Yar-hamuka-l-lah). But as regards yawning, it is from satan, so one must try one's best to stop it, if one says 'Ha' when yawning, satan will laugh at him."
Sahih Bukhari 8:73:242.

I need a good Muslim to explain this to me please. I might become Muslim if I get a good response from Islamic scholars in nairaland.

Jadonjack:
I'm gonna try as much as possible to use simple expressions so everybody can understand. Let's begin....

I'm not gonna bore anybody with epistles, just gonna go straight to my points...



According to the bible, no human being is morally perfect, which means human can behave in a mean, cowardly, selfish, cruel way, and so on... God on the other hand can not behave in those ways because according to the same bible, he is morally perfect.

And if he cannot act in any of those ways, it simply means there is something he cannot do which makes him non omnipotent hence he doesn't exist......