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hopefuLandlord:
Bros, learn to read properly, the question is not if your god "hears" you, its if your god "talks" to you, know the difference, now answer and stop the rigmarole

AnonyNymous:
Never has it been recorded that a Caucasian couple gave birth to a Mongoloid/Negro baby.

hopefulLandlord:
Oga, prove it, that's what the thread is about bro

This is not about me

hopefulLandlord:
Yes he did, satisfied? Now prove to him that you are not one of the lunatics by proving your god speaks with you, is that too uncomfortable for you to do? You claim you speak to him and he speaks to you, now prove it

HardMirror:
Christians are just like the lunatic on the street talking to himself. Hence the indirect answers, none is confident that God lives in him.

jmichlins:
you had to resort to science to prove science wrong, what do we use to prove religion teaching like earth been the center of the universe wrong. I keep telling my fellow theist to keep on their lane and not force your teachings upon others. Live and let live is the true way of life

lordnicklaus:
Do you hear from Charles Darwin?

lepasharon:
Maybe you are talking about what you don't know

Here O Israel the Lord our God is one Lord- deuteronomy 6:4.

AnonyNymous:
And I just showed you that the story of the sun cannot be justified by the earth's rotation. You didnt read the op, you just jumped to leave comments

AnonyNymous:
How did Joshua make the sun stand still by the power of yahweh? You said the earth stopped rotating. I just showed here how that's impossible.

Scholar8200:
And he mistakenly(and contradicts his Quran) agrees due to hate!

Scholar8200:
But your Quran agrees that Jesus is the Messiah? Is that true?

AmenRa1:
And Ur point?? Is baptism anointing?? Please don't come here to lie abeg this is one of the reason the Muslims think there Muhammad is a Messiah too rubbish

AmenRa1:
Is this the best U got? That a 14years old girl got bleeped by God gush I laugh at Ur stupidity

AmenRa1:
Isaiah proved Ur Messiah Nonesense wrong, we all know Christians love to lie!!

From which account Luke or Mathew??

And this drives home my point more

AmenRa1:
Of Course just like how Saul & king David we're Christ(Messiah) too

Tallesty1:
Real Christians are known in the streets and Christianity shows in everything they do.
Real Christians are not known in the church cause everyone can pretend to be a Christian in the church.

malvisguy212:
by Eric Lyons, M.Min.

Three times in the book of Acts, Luke the physician recorded non-Christians asking what they needed to do to be saved, and three times a different answer was given.

The heathen jailor from Philippi asked
Paul and Silas, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?,” and was told: “BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND YOU WILL BE SAVED” (16:30-31).

The Jews on Pentecost asked the apostles, “Men and brethren,what shall we do?,” and were instructed to“REPENT AND BE BAPTISED ” (2:37-38).

A few years later, Saul (later called Paul
Acts 13:9) asked Jesus, Who appeared to
Saul on his way to Damascus, “Lord, what do you want me to do?” (9:6; 22:10). After being told to go into Damascus to find out what he “must do” to be saved, Ananias, the Lord’s servant, commanded Saul to “RISE AND BE BAPTISED, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord” (22:16).
The question that many ask is: “Why are three different answers given to the same question?” Are these answers contradictory, or is there a logical explanation for their differences?

The reason that three different answers
were given to the question of salvation is because on each occasion the
questioners were at different “locations”
on the road to salvation. The rationality
of such answers can be illustrated by
considering what a person is told in
reference to his physical distance from a certain city. If a friend calls me to ask
how far it is from his house in Jackson,
Tennessee to my parents’ house in
Neosho, Missouri, I would inform him
that he is 475 miles from Neosho. If he
calls me back the next day, notifying me
that he is now in Little Rock, Arkansas,
and asks about the distance to Neosho, I would give him a different answer. He
now would be 260 miles from Neosho. If,later that evening, he called me one last time and asked how far Fort Smith is from Neosho, again I would give him a different answer— 130 miles. No rational person would accuse me of contradicting myself, since each question was asked from a different reference point. Three different answers were given, but all three were correct. Likewise, the New Testament records three different answers given to the question, “What must I do to be saved,” because the sinners who asked these questions were at different places of understanding on the road to salvation.

The Philippian jailor was commanded to
believe in Christ, because he had not yet heard and believed the saving message of Jesus (Acts 16:31-32; Romans 10:17). It would have been pointless for Paul and Silas to command the jailor to repent and/or be baptized when he had not yet even heard the Gospel. If today, a Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist, asked a Christian the same question the Philippian jailor asked Paul and Silas, the same answer would need to be given.

Before ever teaching a Muslim about the essentiality of repentance and baptism, he first must express belief in Jesus as the Son of God. If this step (i.e.,
believing) is never taken on the road to
salvation, the other steps are
meaningless. [NOTE: The Bible reveals
that after Paul and Silas “spoke the word of the Lord” to the jailor and his
household, they believed and
“immediately” were baptized (Acts 16:33).

By implication, Paul and Silas must have
taught the jailor and his family about the essentiality of baptism after stressing the need to “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ” (cf. Acts 8:35-36,38). Question: If water baptism has nothing to do with salvation, then why were the jailor and his household immersed in water not long after midnight (cf. Acts 16:25,33)?]

The Jews on Pentecost had already heard Peter’s sermon when they asked their question about salvation (Acts 2:37). Peter knew that they already believed,and that such belief came from hearing the message he preached (cf. Romans10:17). The Jews had passed the point of belief (being “pricked in their heart”), and were told to “repent and be baptized” in order to obtain salvation (cf. Mark 16:16).

Still, someone might wonder why
Ananias told Saul neither to believe nor
repent when he informed him about how to have his sins washed away. The
reason: Saul already was a penitent
believer in Christ by the time he came in contact with Ananias. Saul did not need to be told to believe or repent, since he had already done so. He knew the Lord existed, having spoken directly with Him on the road to Damascus, and he expressed a penitent attitude by praying to God and fasting for three days (Acts 9:9,11). At this point, Saul lacked only one thing: he needed to be baptized (Acts 22:16).

The reason these sinners were told three different things regarding salvation was because they were at different starting points when given the various answers. It is as if the jailor were in Jackson, Tennessee, the Jews on Pentecost in Little Rock, Arkansas, and Saul in Fort Smith. All wanted to go to the same place, but were at different starting points when they asked the question,“What must I do to be saved?” The unbeliever was told to believe. The
believers were told to repent. And the
penitent believer was told to be
baptized. The three statements may be
different, but they are not contradictory.
For a person to become a child of God,
he or she must do all three (see John
8:24; Luke 13:3,5; Matthew 28:19; Mark
16:16).

malvisguy212:
bless you my brother, thank you.

malvisguy212:
Justification is the concept that provides
our belief with the assuredness of its
truth. People believe things for reasons,
which provide the warrant for their belief.Without these reasons,you do not have knowledge of what you believe. If a belief is JUSTIFIED, then we have the right to believe it. Atheists got it wrong, there view was; " since you cannot know something with 100% certainty, you cannot obtain the truth (or knowledge), you just have to believe ,God did it". The bible say otherwise, in Isaiah 1:18 God is calling human to "come and let us REASON together"

This brief journey into obtaining knowledge of what you belief was done in order to show the relationship between FAITH,BELIEF AND TRUTH . Christianity requires faith, faith requires
belief, and belief requires TRUTH.This is not just a mere belief but rather a trust that is characterized as knowledge.


Notice how Paul incorporates all three of these elements in his letter to the
Romans, “if you confess with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). You cannot "confess with your mouth" without knowing the truth.

No matter how hard I try, I cannot make myself believe that there is a pink elephant in the room right now. I do not have direct free will over my beliefs, i.e. I can’t make myself believe something. I also cannot just tell people what to believe or exhort them to believe it. But if I don’t have free will over my beliefs, how can the Bible hold me responsible for them? The answer lies in the fact that I do have responsibility as to where I choose to focus my mind. I have free choice in body movements and where to place my attention (what you choose to think about). I have to choose to be preoccupied with something to change my belief or increase my certainty in that belief .Faith in the biblical sense means trust or confidence, confident in what we know to be TRUE. You do not have to be 100% certain in a belief for it to count as knowledge.

The bible say faith alone cannot save , why? because what you have faith in
must be TRUE, Biblical faith is accurate knowledge combined with ACTIVE TRUST Faith and knowledge are not opposed to each other. So Trusting faith alone does NOT save, but instead what is trusted MUST be true.

The faith Jesus had was not an absence of knowledge, but was based upon an intimate knowledge of his Father. We too can gain knowledge to make our faith richer.

Anas09:
Who even started this Moniker piling? Now every Punk will spew trash and line up Monikers.
Joe, go borrow some sense if you let a smarter dude got yours. Now stay off my mention except you have something reasonable to say.

mrkayusfit:
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Useless man whipping up religious sentiments as usual. Muslims and Christians are brothers and we serve one God. We will not allow politicians to divide us any further

0ubenji:
Genesis 1 vs 20 - 25 narrates the creation of all animals on earth before Man was eventually created in 'vs 26 - 27'


Genesis 2 vs 18 - 19 tells us otherwise, that Man was created 1st before all the animals on earth, with an emphasis on the fact that Adam actually named all the animals himself.


Is Moses, the acclaimed writer of Genesis(as they'd like us to bliv), confused?


OR


Is this an indication that the book of Genesis was crafted by more than 1 author?

Cc: malvisguy212

malvisguy212:
no coment from my muslims friends, Allah and the true God of the bible cannot be the same.this is clear prove that Allah did not empower jesus to perform miracle because before the coming of jesus ,allah has already stop sending sign.

0ubenji:
I get ur point, u're only going around in circles while I sit here waitin for u to cite a biblical reference that succinctly implies Abel as not being the second born..
Therein, the debates bcums more interesting whereby I try disprove the semantics of whateva citation u present..that way, we both learn from new angles to dis..
I'd like to drop this debate with u, if we wanna proceed into illogically hypothetical perspectives of this issue. It would appear to defeat reason rather than improve it.