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chuna1985:
Please quote scriptures.

vivienne03:
I've been thinking for a long time... and I've decided that I want to die. I've always been a suicidal child. I just don't understand life anymore and I don't think I'm strong enough to go through this life. I just have one challenge... I don't know how to kill myself. I've tried many times but I get scared because I don't want to go to hell. Is there any spiritual person I can contact online that can assist me since I can't do it alone. I'm serious this time I just can't take anymore disappointments. Thanks

Ganjafama:
I married the daughter of the king of Saudi Arabia, so that automatically makes my children princes and princesses. Or my mum is Hausa and my dad Ijaw, that means I am a Hausa man. For ur info Satan does not manipulate one. Anything we do we do out of our own freewill.

Ganjafama:
You christians like twisting facts to support your arguement. You and I know that the ancient hebrew tradition does not consider women in ancestry.

Lanre747:
Wrong wrong wrong.
This is what God permitted: If a man died without having male offspring to continue his line, his nearest male relative was commanded to sleep with his wife to produce a male heir. (Deuteronomy 25:5-10).
Onan refused to perform his duty in this manner so God took his life (Genesis 38:3-10).

Roman law, by contrast, allowed a man to create an heir from outside his family. Hence, we can conclude that, if the claim of a virgin birth is correct, this disqualifies Jesus from being a Messiah.
If he is indeed the son of Joseph, this too, disqualifies Him since He would fall under the curse of Jeconias.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't!!

I only believe and follow the old testament. The crazy romans have confused you with a 'new testament".
Stick with the OT and you shall not be confused.

sonOfLucifer:
A - The Messiah must be from the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10).
Under Jewish law, tribal affiliation is conferred through the birth father only (Numbers 1:18-44,34:14,Leviticus 24:10) . Jesus fails in this regard, as he didn't have a birth father from the tribe of Judah. He wasn't a physical descendant of David. Jesus was at best, a test tube baby; at worst, a well-conceived trick played on Joseph by his fiance Mary.

Extra info:

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Scholar8200:
1. As at the time of the OT, he was not the adversary (meaning of satan); he was the usurper wielding the dominion that was Adam's. But in the NT, he is a defeated foe who now accuses the brethren and atTempts to deceive! If he appeared as a servant in the OT it is because he was, "sitting in Adam's seat" and God still rules among the armies of Heaven (and the heavenlies) and among the inhabitants of the earth!

2. As at the time of the OT, he was not a defeated foe (Christ defeated him) meaning the OT saints did not have the authority over him hence there was no issue of warfare/subduing of creeping things etc. If the OT saints would cast out devils, in whose name would they have done that? Remember it has to be a Man.

3. Indeed, to attempt to change God's perfect will is to opt for His permissive will with the dire consequences (of course such will be warned beforehand). God's will was, is and shall ever be the best for us!!!

4. The book of Job quite debunks the higlighted!

5. If you read Daniel 2 & 7 you will understand the fact that the dominion thus usurped from Adam was only executable through man hence the Prince of Persia (that was in charge when Medes& Persians ruled the World could successfully oppose Daniel's prayer for a time ( Daniel 10:19-21). Besides the reference to the Prince of Grecia was perfectly keeping with the fact that that was to be the next world power and the Prince thus mentioned dominated the world through Alexander the Great (ruler of the Greeks/Grecians).
Why have I said all these? These Princes were under the authority of their master the devil (Ephesians 6:10-12 speaks of Principalities and Powers) and since God's justice would not be compromised, their usurped dominion was un-challenged by God but He still worked out His purposes.

6. Note the difference: In Daniel 10:19-21, a Prince under satan's dominion withstood an Angel for 21 days and the only respite was the coming of Michael. And when Moses died, the best Michael could say to the devil was, "The LORD rebuke thee"! That was the OT. But under the NT, a single Angel , in Revelations 20:1-4, drags satan into the bottomless pit and binds him for 1000years! Why? The usurped dominion has been recovered through Christ hence satan is just like a common rebel leader.

Is this clear?

malvisguy212:
you may be right. but know this.
Christians are people who consider themselves such moral failures that they have come to Jesus for help and forgiveness. Making it spiritually depends not on how popular or nice we are, but how much we want God to rule our life and change us.

Fearcom:
Whatever you believe in; Christian, Muslim, atheist ,agnostic, Satanist, Christian Scientist or Pagan :Defend your faith with a satisfactory explanation. Go on, make a convert of me

Rilwayne001:
You made the above statement, and down here you further show how ignorant you are. You are definitely not blinded by christianity, cus othetr reasonable christian will make use of their brain.. But because you are suffering from the greatest disease called ILLITERACY, I don't expect anything less from you. Until you go back to school and re-write that O'level you failed, I don't see you make use of your brain in future.



Like he revealed when the world will come to an end to the alleged third member of the trinity?




The Will of God is what God wanted of us [read Psalm 143 or so, where david was asking God to teach him to DO HIS WILL].. This is absolutely different from predestination i.e God having the foreknowledge of the future, He alone knows this and can reveal it to whoever he will. But of course the prophet's death was revealed to him in the hadith you choosed to ignore: Bukhari's Hadith 5.713



Again, I wont bother waste my time here. Kindly open ayhread on this, and you fully blown ignorance will bbe shown to you.




Luke 13:34, Matthew 23:37.. Also, do read Mattew 21.

truthman2012:
Love this bro.
God bless you.

Rilwayne001:
The one I provided is clearer.. Look up and read.



YES



Very ignorant post from you. I won't bother waste my effort here, cus it will end up in futility.



Another ignorant post. Does Yahweh's angel knows his mind?



Doesn't he know what was to befall him before taking it up?

And again you missed my second question: According to
Mattew 23:34 the Jews had already killed other prophets, using your logic,those prophets whom the Jews killed were also all fakes, because I am sure the Jews wouldn’t have killed them if they believed they were true prophets now would they?

Rilwayne001:
What is the meaning of 'Martyr'? Simply answer my question, don't digress.

Rilwayne001:
Where was Yahweh when Jesus was shouting 'Eli Eli lama sabactani'

Rilwayne001:
[b] By Allah, I didnt see this particular mention until this morning, I dont know why. Same thing happen whenever truthman2012 mention me. I had to start cchecking his thread one after the other to know the latest update; to see those who mentioned me.

Now in response to the above, it is not far-fetched, the question we should be asking his that why didn"t the Prophet die at the scene, atleast Bishr died at that very moment, this also shows that the Prophet is real, read the story:
"Today I have perfected your religion for you, and have bestowed upon you the full measure of My blessings, and willed that self-surrender unto Me shall be your way of life." QURAN 5:3

According to all available traditions, the verse above was revealed at Mount Arafat in the afternoon of Friday, the.9th of
Dhul-Hijjah, shortly before the death of the Prophet Muhammad (S). Standing in prayer at Arafat on the 9th of Dhul-Hijjah, is considered the most important part of Hajj.

At the final moment when he did his pilgrimage to makkah (hajj), and the verse saying the religion of Islam is complete,then was the final moment, read this to judge it yourself

Surah Baqarah 2:214"Or did you think that you will enter Paradise without such (trials) that came to those who passed away before you? They were afflicted with severe poverty and
ailments and were so shaken that even the Messenger and those who believed along with him said, 'When will come the help of Allah? Yes! Certainly, the help of Allah is near!"

From Bukhari's Hadith 5.713:
Narrated Ibn Abbas:
'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to let Ibn Abbas sit beside him, so 'AbdurRahman bin 'Auf said to 'Umar, "We have sons similar to him." 'Umar replied, "(I respect him) because of his status that you know." 'Umar then asked Ibn 'Abbas about the meaning of this Holy Verse:-- "When comes the help of Allah and the conquest of Mecca . . ." (110.1) Ibn 'Abbas replied, "That indicated the death of Allah's Apostle which Allah informed him of." ' Umar said, "I do not understand of it except what you understand." (note Ibn ABASS WAS THE BEST AMONG THE SAHABAS IN INTERPRETING THE QURAN).

From Tabari Volume 9 page 108:

[i] [color=red] When the prophet returned to Medina after performing the Pilgrimage of Completion, he began to have a complaint of illness. As travel was allowed (after the pilgrimage), the news of the prophet's illness spread, Then in Muharram the prophet complained of the pain.from which he died. [/b]



Jesus allegedly made this statement, okay. But in the next chapter, we are told that he said while on the cross " My God,My God, why have you forsaken me?, (Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34). Isn't this an indication that Jesus expected God to save him? If yes,this will mean he is unaware of his crucifixtion. If No then he must have lost faith, indicating the devil triumphed.

Secondly, like I asked truthman, According to Mattew 23:34 the Jews had already killed other prophets, using your logic,those prophets whom the Jews killed were also all fakes, because I am sure the Jews wouldn’t have killed them if they believed they were true prophets now would they?

Demmzy15:
Good to see you too, sha continue spreading your falsehood and lies!

starlingslimnet:
Scripturally we are not filthy before God as believers, we are blameless and Holy before him.Religiously one can say Yes we are.So it depends which you hold on to: Scripture or Religion, Faith or Tales. As for me I believe the Scripture and I am blameless and Holy before God.


Yes we can boast of our salvation only in Christ.

Authentic Christians are unconscious of sin.

starlingslimnet:
Scripturally we are not filthy before God as believers, we are blameless and Holy before him.Religiously one can say Yes we are.So it depends which you hold on to: Scripture or Religion, Faith or Tales. As for me I believe the Scripture and I am blameless and Holy before God.


Yes we can boast of our salvation only in Christ.

Authentic Christians are unconscious of sin.

starlingslimnet:
That up there,spoiled the whole writing.

Demmzy15:
Ewu!

tartar9:
where do you work?

menesheh:
Pretty alright. How is Sunday service going. Hope you are not pressing your phone in the church

You gats concentrate and talk to the Lord.

menesheh:
Longtime bro

menesheh:
god is pretty naive about the complexity of the outer space and other astronomical bodies of the universe.


imagine this


"and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind" Revelation 6:13


"How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations! Isaiah 14:12


Then the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from heaven which had fallen to the earth; and the key of the bottomless pit was given to him. Revelation 9:1


you have to first demonstrate that such god exists before asking whether other planetary bodies have any purpose.

doublex:
am not sure about christianity but since leaving islam and researching about christianity,i can see that the 'founder' of christianty(Jesus) is better and more morally superior compared to muhammed,foundation/founder of islam....

malvisguy212:
Ishilove, Lalasticlala

safarigirl:
I'm not an atheist. Your words contradict each other. In one you say "Jesus has paid the penalty for all sins" then, you say "everyone will be rewarded according to his deed" so, this means, even a beleiver who is tainted in sin, may not make Heaven?

safarigirl:
so is that why you all sin brazenly? Cause you beleive all your sins will be forgiven after Jesus' death? If na so, everybody for dey Heaven.

safarigirl:
Sometimes, I feel that innocent people who are murdered violently, are forgiven of their sins, or those sins fall upon their murderers. By this, I mean, people who are stabbed or bludgeoned to death, molested people, those who suffer unmerited torture before death etc. I don't mean actual criminals, I mean people like the Aluu4 boys and victims of r@pe and murder. What do you think?