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ifeness:
Story of the Flood of Noah

God tells Noah to build an Ark and cover it inside and outside with tar. After it was built. God said to bring into it all the animals male and female for in 7 more days I am making it rain upon the earth for 40 days and 40 nights.

Story of the Flood of Ziusudra (Noah)

Galzu the Anunnaki emissary appears in a dream to Enki with a tablet of a blue print of the Ark for Ziusudra to build and save himself, his wife, three sons Shem, Ham, Yafet, their families, and all the animals and dna. Enki awakens to find the tablet has manifested and is with him. Not breaking an oath not to tell anyone of the coming deluge by Nibiru's coming and gravitational pull causing this event, Enki speaks to Ziusudra through a reed hut leaving the tablet to find.

this story is different from the bible, God did not apear to Noah in a dream. Thank you for your time.

ifeness:
It is not a matter of believe,it is an evidence your holy book isn't the original.

calm down bro. Do not panic.

ifeness:
The Sumerian Tablets are 4,500 years old

The Torah is 3313 years old which is the Old Testament in the bible.

This makes the Sumerian tablets 1187 years older than the Torah. If we take the 2 and compare them we can see how the Priests with their agenda changed the Torah from what really happened by looking at the Sumerian Tablets. Coincidence?

Comparison: The Bible versus the Anunnaki stories

In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth and all life on Earth, man and woman, in 7 days resting on the 7th day. The garden of Eden where 4 rivers meet Pishon, Gihon, Tigress, Euphrates.

In the Anunnaki version the Anunnaki Enki lands on Earth with 50 Anunnaki Hero's and established Eridu in the Edin in 7 days making the 7th day a rest day. the Edin where 4 rivers meet. ( Mesopotamia, Iraq )

And God said let us make man in our image and in our likeness. God made Man from the dust of the Earth, and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life and the man came to be a living soul. He called the man Adam

The Birth From The Anunnaki Of (Adamu and TiAmat).First Generation Earth humans. The Anunnaki toiled the Gold mines for 80 shars, over 300,000 years before creating worker helpers in thier image and thier likeness. Ningishzidda ( Enki's son ) engineers Anunnaki male human essence DNA with the oval egg of Homoerectus female in a vesel made from the clay of the Earth (like test tube baby) and inserts it into the womb of Ninmah(Ninharsag). Ninmah gives birth to Adamu. Same thing but for a girl, Enki inserts it into Damkina (Enki's spouse,Alalu's Daughter). Damkina gives birth to Tiamat. ADAMU & TIAMAT the models created in the Anunnaki's image.

1.were is the source of your information?
2. This is what you wrote :

" In the Anunnaki version the Anunnaki Enki lands on Earth with 50 Anunnaki Hero's and established Eridu in the Edin in 7 days making the 7th day a rest day. the Edin where 4 rivers meet."

If this is how the anunnaki began life on earth, then I must say ,the god's lie, according to science, life began "A SINGLE CELL ORGANISM" the story is not the same with the biblical story.


The Genesis creation account is absolutely unique among all creation stories, both in its simplicity and in its scientific accuracy.

ifeness:
I'm only showing the original stories. Now you can throw away the photocopied one.

do you believe in the original story ?

ifeness:
The Christian bible is not original. It is a mixture of Sumerian and Egyptian stories put together which is being used to enslave people's minds. Faith is this book is nothing but stupidity.

okay, which story do you believe ?

Umairahmadmr:
Hello my name is umair and i am a muslim.I want to know about christianity.my whatsapp no is 00923310446462.can any one help me?

what is it that you want to know in Christianity? Let discuss it here.

madjnr:
A man and his wife... Being talked about with dirty language like breast... Vagina... Penis... Can you show your six year old bro and sisters that as the word of God

can you give your little child this to read ?
Abu Dawud 12:2302
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon
him) was asked about a man who
divorced his wife three times, and she
married another who entered upon
her, but divorced her before having
intercourse with her, whether she was
lawful for the former husband. She
said: The Prophet (peace be upon
him) replied: She is not lawful for the
first (husband) UNTIL SHE TASTES THE HONEY OF THE OTHER HUSBAND AND HE TASTER HER HONEY .


Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go
round (have sexual relations with) all his
wives in one night, and he had nine
wives." Muhammad also said that it was
impossible to treat all wives equally -
and it isn't hard to guess why.
Bukhari (5:268) - "The Prophet used to
visit all his wives in a round, during the
day and night and they were eleven in
number." I asked Anas, 'Had the Prophet
the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We
used to say that the Prophet was given
the strength of thirty men.' "

Empiree:
Joke!
Where in your Bible Jesus(AS) did any of these "particular attitude" [i:e dancing, druming, jumping, screaming, dramatizing, speak in tongue]

worship God in truth, what does it mean ? Everything you've got, both spiritually and physically, what lead to Jesus making this statement in John 4:24? If you read from verse one of John 4, the woman say the Jews worship God in Jerusalem, what Jesus is saying to her "it doesent matter how you worship God, make sure you heart is in the right spirit and truth.

So now answer my questions, where did muhammed got the idea that the Jews and christians worship God on dead prophet tomb ? Muhammed did not read the early scripture as commanded by Allah because if he does he would not make such error .

Empiree:
Whats that "particular attitude" i:e dancing, druming, jumping, screaming, dramatizing, speak in tongue etc which one?

yes, anything I do as long as my attitude is right with God .

Visitor700:
Yes. But Paul and James did not compliment each other. In Genesis 15:6 Paul says:

"Abram believed the LORD, and he credited it to him as righteousness."

[size=14]Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers/size]
—We have here the germ of the doctrine of free justification. Abram was both a holy man and one who proved his faith by his works; but nevertheless the inspired narrator inserts this reflection, not after the history of the offering of Isaac, but in the account of this vision, where all that Abram did was to believe, and for that belief’s sake was accounted righteous before God.

From the Bible Commentaries of Ellicott, the inspired writter, paul, did not deem Abraham "Justified by works" when he offered Isaac on the altar, but rather he maintained that Abraham was Justified only on account of his belief.



Yes, it does. In the Quran, Paul and his likes are known by their fruit.

Allah says: [size=14]"Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from God,"[/size] to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby."
(The Noble Quran, 2:79) "

Tell me, didn't paul write 13/8 books of the New Testament?

Allah also says: [size=14]"Who can be more wicked than one who inventeth a lie against God, or saith, "I have received inspiration," when he hath received none, or (again) who saith, "I can reveal the like of what God hath revealed"?[/size] If thou couldst but see how the wicked (do fare) in the flood of confusion at death! - the angels stretch forth their hands, (saying),"Yield up your souls: this day shall ye receive your reward,- a penalty of shame, for that ye used to tell lies against God, and scornfully to reject of His signs!"
(The Noble Quran, 6:93)

Didn't he also claim that God inspired his preaching?

see were you got it all wrong, prior to coming of Jesus, those in the old testament were save by FAITH alone. But after Jesus had finished the WORK of salvation meaning He did not ONLY reconcile us to God , He also gives us the authority to defects the devil. How did the old testament saint rebuked the devil ? In whose authority?


I will ask again, if muhammed should ask muslims to make confirmation to the early scripture,the injil,torah and. Zabura and all three scripture do not claims to be a sent down revelation from heaven EXCEPT the quran ,doesent this mean Allah ask you to make confirmation to a book writing by men ? Infacte the quran say the early scripture is capable of guiding human.
Sura 5:46:
"But why do they (the Jews) come to
thee for decision, when they have the
Torah in which IS the command of
God."
Sura 5:50:
"And let the People of the Gospel
judge by what God has revealed in it.
If any fail to judge by what God has
revealed, they are licentious."
Sura 5:71:
"Say, O People of the Book! You are not
(founded) on anything UNTIL you
PERFORM the TORAH and the GOSPEL,
and what was revealed to you from your
Lord."

Infacte Sura 5:50 claim it is God who revealed the early scripture,and your post seems to indicate this scripture is corrupted . alright now answer the following questions,

Quran 16:44
[We sent them] with clear proofs and
WRITTEN ordinances. And We revealed to
you the message that you may make
clear to the people what was sent down
to them and that they might give
thought.
I'm sure the muslims know the quran
was not revealed in writing. Therefore
the 'writings' above refers to the earlier
Scriptures. The written proved their
MUST be copies going on circulation.
okay!!!

1. At what point did the people corrupted
the Torah and Injeel, was it BEFORE
islam, during Muhammad's time of
AFTER him?
2. If it was before islam, why would Allah
refer Muhammad to something that is
non-existent to make confirmation?
3. If it was after Muhamad had died, how
was he able to receive the revelation that
the Scripture (Torah and Injeel) has been
corrupted?
4. The quran confirms that the Scripture
was a clear proof in writings. This means
there were copies in circulation. How
possible all copies vanished without
anyone having a copy anywhere? You
should by now discover a lie is told.
5. Why would God be so weak as to allow
man throw away His words before He
would vow to protect the subsequent
revelations? Did He learn from
experience?
6. Why will God ask muhammed to make
confirmation of the corrupted scripture
(injeel and torah) ?
https://www.nairaland.com/2535883/allegedly-corrupted-scripture-questions-muslims

[quote author=Empiree post=39174835][/quote]“God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and
truth” John 4:24.

the bible say worship God in spirit and truth. it simply means a particular attitude,i.e. to worship God in a ‘spirited’ or wholehearted manner.

Romans 10:2
2 For I bear them witness that they
have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge.

dolphinheart:
Thanks for the correction. But which of the two is false now cus both statements are not the same.

sahih bukari hadith is one of the authentic and well trusted hadith.

basilico:
When Jews pray they face Jerusalem. Muhammad in his earlier years of founding Islam wanted to curry flavour with the Jews by ordering his followers to face Jerusalem.
He told the Jews that he was a continuation of JEWISH prophets but they saw through his lies and rejected him. In anger he changed the qibla to Mecca.And declared enemity with the Jews, Allah helping him by revealing to him the worst of the Jews. enemity that is preached in every mosque, written in every book till today.

As for Jews facing Jerusalem. They have always faced their holy city since they were scattered after 70 AD. All Jews have always prayed to return to their holy city and in remembrance have always faced Jerusalem when praying . The Jews Muhammad knew were exiled Jews in Mecca and Yathrib who for hundreds of years then always yearned to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the third temple.

Muhammad probably thought God resides somewhere and plagiarized Jews way of facing Jerusalem not knowing why they have always done so.

Fake prophet.

At the time when Surah 2:144 was revealed to change the Qiblah from Jerusalem to Mecca, the Ka’ba was still a pagan shrine housing 360 pagan idols. Why would Allah permit his Prophet to bow towards the Ka’ba while it was still polluted with 360 pagan idols? The command given in the Qur’an to change the Qiblah predates by years the conquest of Mecca. Those idols were destroyed only after the conquest of Mecca. Thus, during all those intervening years, between the time the Qiblah was changed towards the Ka’ba and the conquest of Mecca, whenever Muhammad faced the Ka’ba to pray, the Ka’ba remained a shrine of idol-worship.

plappville:
I keep wondering how people can be blind to a cristally clear truth. Just look at this huge error of Mary....

if they chose to believe in satanic doctrine. At least God knows we bring the true gospel to them but their heart is darkened. God bless you my sister.

Empiree:
How?

You getting confused again?. Now, you digressed after evidence of early christian grave worshipers was presented. Go on.

I really dont feel like going back to this again. This was dealt with in rilwayne001's thread. So christians who believe in "trinity", dont they proved it fromt he Bible?. Or you forgot your mistress ifeann proving trinity from the Bible some months back?. From Isalmic point of view, it was only warning that you desist from trinity i:e the worship of "three gods "father son and holy spirit" from some christian perspectives. You may not be a trinitarian. That's okay. Yo may disagree with them. That's non of my biz

What is this bs @ bolded?. The only Miriam/Mariam/Maryam associated with Jesus(AS) is Maryam i:e mother of Jesus. What the nonsense you spew up there?. And who are those deviant christian sects?


Now, you admit that he was right when he cursed Jews and Christians for building their house of worship over graves after I provided evidence to support my claim. So now you know.

I honestly dont know hoe many times I have to say this. That it was possible not entire Christendom did that at the time. It could have been notable factions amongst them. It is like when other countries accuse Nigerians of drug smuggling. Does that means all Nigerians do drugs?.

The fact that some christians at that time did it was enough to categorise the hadith authentic. The article I provided concur. http://www.sacred-destinations.com/italy/rome-catacombs

Seems like you dont read btw lines. This was already explained up there as well. Read it again http://islamqa.info/en/65944

And whats your problem with ziyarat?. You sure have no clue what you really want. Noting wrong visting graves and saying salaams.

And how did Jesus order you to worship?. Can you please categorically tell?. Many christian churches worship differently and each sect or church dare not worship at another's. Protestant dare not worship with catholic, Deeper life dare not worship with Cele

You all worship differently.

I ask you to provide evidence from the bible, Jews and christians build temple on dead prophet tomb but you couldn't.

"And Mary, the daughter of Imran, who
guarded her chastity, and We breathed
into (her body) of our spirit; and she
believed in the words of her Lord and
of His revelations, and was of the
devoutly obedient." - Quran 66:12

There are a number of "Mary" - also
spelled "Maria" or "Miriam" in English -
in the Bible. One of them is the mother
of Jesus:
"Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as
follows: after His mother Mary was
betrothed to Joseph, before they came
together, she was found with child of
the Holy Spirit." - Matthew 1:18

But the Mary who is the "daughter of
IMRAM" (spelled "Amran" in the Bible)
and the "sister of Aaron" was the sister
of Moses who lived in the 15th century
BC:

"The name of Amram's wife was
Jochebed the daughter of Levi, who
was born to Levi in Egypt; and to
AMRAM she bore Aaron and Moses and
their sister Miriam." - Numbers 26:59

Therefore, unless Mary was 1,500 years
old when she had Jesus - indeed, unless
Joseph married a 1,500 year old virgin -
Muhammad mistook two different
women in the Bible as the same.
Surah 5:116-117
And when God said, ‘O Jesus son of
Mary, didst thou say unto men, " Take
me and my MOTHER AS gODS apart
from God"?’ He said, ‘To Thee be
glory! It is not mine to say what I
have no right to. If I indeed said it,
Thou knowest it, knowing what is
within my soul, and I know not what
is within Thy soul; Thou knowest the
things unseen I only said to them
what Thou didst command me: "Serve
God, my Lord and your Lord." And I
was a witness over them, while I
remained among them; but when
Thou didst take me to Thyself, Thou
wast Thyself the watcher over them;
Thou Thyself art witness of
everything.’

Were did this foolish idea come from that christians take Mary as God ? Muhammed continuously misinterpret the christians doctrine, even the arab christians do not accept him , they challenge his doctrine. So you see, there are many place were in the quran were muhammed accused christians of something the christians did not do.just like the op.

dolphinheart:
Prophet month said : they build (to construct)the places of worship at the graves(a location) of their prophets(known individuals) . Can you guys give us examples of these constructions.? Cus I dnt think he said they worshiped at the grave as some are trying to imply.

And the only construction I've heard of near a grave is that of prophet mo.

Modified: abeg , who did mo say are Christian prophets . Where were they buried .

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8,
Number 427:
Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin
‘Abbas: When the last moment of
the life of Allah’s Apostle came he
started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his
face and when he felt hot and short
of breath he took it off his face and
said , “May Allah curse the Jews and
Christians for they built the places
of worship at the graves of their
Prophets.”

Ibn Sa’d, page 322:
When the last moment of the
prophet was near, he used to draw a
sheet over his face; but when he felt
uneasy, he removed it from his face
and said: “Allah’s damnation be on
the Jews and the Christians who
made the graves of their prophets
objects of worship.”

The first hadith say "they built the places of worship at the graves of their
Prophets.” and the second say the christians and Jews made the grave of their prophet objects of worship.”

Empiree:
Yea, right. Tell them. Besides, this might be historically connected. Mode of worship have changed overtime in christianity. As you guys can see, you Christians don't even worship synchronously and meticulously today unlike Muslims. Obligatory salat is the same everywhere.

@malvisguy212 , I am not accusing you of worshiping grave. However, there are pieces of evidence to suggest the hadith of the prophet(SAW) was correct. I said earlier that it doesnt really have to be all christians prophet was referring to. It could have been faction(s) amongst them seemingly-notable enough for the Muhammad(SAW) to have condemned building House of worship over graves. Read below article gives a clue of possible early Christians built their churches over graves of saints and worship them. But with time, I believe, with emergence of "Protestant Christianity", the act faded away.
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/italy/rome-catacombs

see my friend,their are many questions you need to ask, muhammed was GREATLY misled by some christians sect , there are many things in the quran he got wrong concerning the christians doctrine,for example he say the christians worship Mary Jesus and God and call it trinity,were did he got this idea from? yes muhammed mention trinity in the quran but the bible never mention it , the bible only indicate it. Muhammed mistook two different women , Mary and Miriam, all this are evidence that muhammed was greatly misled by some christians sect. Muhammed was right to condemned the worship of prophet in their grave BUT he was wrong for accusing the christians and Jews of this acts.were did he got this idea from ?amazingly the muslims build mosque on his tomb.

Ziyarat is used to refer to a form of pilgrimage to sites associated with Muhammad:

Ziyarat of Rasulullah 's Holy Qabr (grave)
is the highest of Mustahab acts.
Therefore those who proceed for Haj
should consider it incumbent upon
themselves to make the Ziyarat. In order
to understand the importance and
significance of the journey to Madinah
Munawwara, it is necessary to recite
some Ahaadith of Rasulullah . As long as
the significance, sanctity and importance
of Madinah Munawwara are not
embedded in the heart, the visitor will
not be in position to correctly discharge
the rights of the Sacred Visit to the Holy
City.

Christians don't have specific way of worship,any christians who worship contrary to what the bible say , he is not a christians.
http://www.inter-islam.org/Actions/Part15.html
The link is not anti-Islamic site.

Madjnr.
The songs of solomon is about A man and his wife to be ,at first the woman do not want to fall in love with him because the man was a stranger , she did not know him, but as time goes on , she finally understand him and fallin love with him,the man was describing the body of his wife to be ,it is because your mind is dirty. the songs of solomon is a perfect moral behavior on how a man should love and take care of his fiancé (wife to be ) the funny thing is that muslims claim the song of solomon prophesied muhammed.

Below are the crime of muhammed, way worse than a 'pornography'.

Muhammad’s marriage to 6yr old
Aisha-(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book
58, Number 234 and 236).
— Aisha cleans Muhammad’s semen
stains-(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book
4, Number 229-233),
— Muhammad handling Aisha during her
‘Menses’- (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1,
Book 6, Number 298-300, Sunan Abu
Dawud, Book 1, Number 0270)
— Muhammad liked to have intercourse
with Aisha and his other wives when they
were menstruating (Sahih Muslim, Book
003, Number 0577-0579),
— He also loved to recite the Quran
when his wives were in Menses while
lying between their legs!-(Sahih al-
Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 296),
(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93,
Number 639)
— Muhammad married his adopted
Son’s wife called ‘Zaynab’ after lusting for
her and then banned Adoption in Islam-
(Surah 33:37,Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 6,
Book 60, Number 305, Sahih Muslim,
Book 008, Number 3330, Sahih al-
Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number
516,The History of Al-Tabari: The Victory
of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein,
1997], Volume VIII, pp. 2-3)
— Muhammad having sex with his dead
Aunt in the Grave-( “Kanz Al Umal” (The
Treasure of the Workers, by Ali Ibn
Husam Aldin, commonly known as Al-
Mutaki Al-Hindi. He based his book on
the hadiths and sayings listed in “Al-Jami
Al-Saghir,” written by Jalal ul-Din Al-
Suyuti.)
— ‘I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt
that she may wear the clothes of heaven,
and I slept with her in her coffin (grave)
that I may lessen the pressure of the
grave. She was the best of Allah’s
creatures to me after Abu Talib’… The
prophet was referring to Fatima , the
mother of Ali. “The Arabic word used
here for slept is “Id’tajat,” and literally
means “lay down” with her. It is often
used to mean, “Lay down to have sex.”
— Muhammad and the Quran
sanctioned sex with your wives and
‘married’ slave girls-(Quran – 70:22-30,
23:5,6, 4:24, 33:50), — Muhammad
speaks of sex with Slave Girls- (Sahih
Bukhari – Volume 3, #432, Volume 9, #
506, Volume 5, #637, Sahih Muslim,
Volume 2, #3371)
— Muhammad disagreed with ‘coitus
interruptus’ with slave girls- he
supported RAPE.
— Muhammad forces a 17 yr old Jewish
girl called Safiyyah to marry him and
rapes her on the same day her husband
and family are killed in the battle of
Khaibar (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5,
Book 59, Number 522, Volume 1, Book 8,
Number 367).
— Al Tabari reported in his (‘The History
of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam’,
Translated by Michael Fishbein) that
even some of Muhammad’s wives and
companions were shocked that he forced
Safiyyah to marry him after beheading
her husband, brother and father.

@Empiree the link you provide does not Give any scriptural references on how the Jews and christians worship at dead prophet tomb. And All the hadith you are quoting here , they are still in my favour, muhammed curse the Jews and christians for worshipping at dead prophet tomb , All what you have to do , provide proof from the scripture that supported muhammed accusations.
Note: I do not support the worshipping of dead saint. But the fact that muhammed curse the Jews and christians for committing sin (although there are no proof of this accusations )which the muslims will be guilty of, common sense will tell you that the curse were for the muslims.

basilico:
Christians are not forbidden to pray anywhere. The Protestant evangelical Christians only need to bow their heads in prayer whenever wherever.Protestants desire that your eyes are closed but it not mandatory neither do catholics desire eyes closed.
Christians pray direct to God and don't need to do some pagan rituals for their prayer to reach God. Allah demanded something different like raising your Arrses for him to hear you.
Christians were given a direct line to God Catholics go thru Mary the mother of Jesus. If you read the bible when Jesus said its over the curtain in the Temple were ripped off.
Then Muslims grabbed temple Mount and are lying there was no Jewish presence on temple mount

I think the muslims though God is not transcendent, because if they do they will never face one direction to pray. The truth is that God is transcendent " what we called the first caused" no matter were you face and pray, God will answered you.

Empiree:
Including filthy places?


Who is Jesus? God or human?

if you want to know who Jesus really is read colossian chapter one "THE SUPREMACY OF THE SON OF GOD" stop derailing the thread.

Empiree:
You are welcome. My preceding posts answered your question. Keep reading

NO the post did not by NO mean answer my question, were did muhammed got the idea, "christians and Jews build temple on there dead prophet tomb" ?

parisbookaddict:
another brilliant post malvisguy212. ..i haven't looked at it this way..

mohammed indirectly curses muslims who visit and pray at his grave. ..especially the shias...

yazach empiree u may need to give ur opinion on this

Weldon my sister, long time .

Empiree:
There is difference between visiting graves and worshiping graves. It's not forbidden in Islam to visit the grave and pray for the dead. Worshiping the grave is 100% haram and that's what the prophet talked about.

Visiting graves is encouraged actually so that we reflect and remember that we too will be there some day. prophet Muhammad(SAW) encouraged to visit graves.

hey bro, longest time, good to see you once again.

I totally disagree with you, what the purpose of visiting grave ? The prophet Muhammad designated Mecca as the holy city of Islam and it followers pray five times a day in that direction (east) and muhammed was buried in that location,muslims visit the grave and pay homage to the grave.

KingEbukasBlog:
Wahingtonpost vs Dailymail ?
I'm a blogger so its easy to detect that its not even a friendly match
Read the comments on Dailymail and tell me what you think

nice one bro. God bless you as you shere.

Annunaki:
What a confused satanic religion

you are very correct.

Anas09:
He brought a curse upon his people.

Weldon bro. Long time. Good to see you.

johnydon22:


Ok you still have not told me the sin yet. . . My friend malvisguy are you back for some again?

Alright... so am still waiting for you to tell me the sin...

satan urged you to rebel against God. What is sin? Do you believe in sin ? Do you have any reason to sin or not to ?

johnydon22:

No sir please wait i want to know what the sin is here exactly?
- That atheists don't live a moral life?
- Or that we don't believe the God you believe..?
Which exactly is our sin?

Romans 1:21-22 21For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 PROFESSING TO BE WISE, THEY BECAME FOOLS...

HenryDion:
That's something you have got to experience yourself cause am not a magician. Is just a personal encounter and it comes only if you are open and not in bondage.

Even if i start narrating my experiences to you or start giving you examples of spirituality at work, you might start asking for prove or think am making things up or might label me crazy. Is more convincing if you experience it yourself.

good one my sister, do not narrate your encounter to this people, they will only mock and laugh at you.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 427: Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin ‘Abbas: When the last moment of the life of Allah’s Apostle came he started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said , “May Allah CURSE the Jews and Christians for THEY BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .” even in his dying breath, uttered curses. Please recall Muhammad’s reason for cursing the Jews and the Christians. He said, “FOR THEY BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .” We will now address this accusation of Muhammad. We will look at the facts recorded in the Bible. Moses and Jesus ,they are very important to the Jews, Moses to Judaism and Jesus to Christianity. As stated in Deuteronomy 34:5-6, God himself buried Moses to an undisclosed place and to Jesus,God removed His body. committing. Meaning it prevented both christians and Jews from being enticed to make pilgrimages or pay homage to such sites. It protected them from creature- worship. In contrast, what did the Muslims do with Muhammad’s tomb after his death? Muslims built a mosque on his tomb. His grave became a place for Muslim pilgrims to visit in Medina annually. The Prophet’s tomb at Medina is, after Mecca, the site most venerated by Muslims. It is visited with reverence in the hearts of the faithful. Ironically, these Muslims fell into the very class of people, upon whom Muhammad beseeched Allah’s curse. Unlike Jehovah, Allah did not have the wisdom or the insight to prevent the causes that could lead to creature- worship among his worshippers. The 12th century work by Qadi Iyad is highly accepted throughout the Muslim world. Al-Qadi Iyadibn Musa al-Yahsubi (1083 C.E.-1149 C.E.) wrote in his book Al-Shifa’: “Visiting his grave is part of the Sunna and is both excellent and desirable. Ibn `Umar said that the Prophet said, ‘My shafa’at (intercession on the Day of Qiyamah) is Waajib (incumbent upon me to intercede) FOR THE ONE WHO VISIT MY GRAVE.’”

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8,
Number 427:
Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin
‘Abbas: When the last moment of
the life of Allah’s Apostle came he
started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his
face and when he felt hot and short
of breath he took it off his face and
said , “May Allah CURSE the Jews and
Christians for THEY BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .”

even in his dying breath, uttered curses. Please recall Muhammad’s reason for cursing the Jews and the Christians. He said, “FOR THEY BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .” We will now address this accusation of Muhammad. We will look at the facts recorded in the Bible.

Moses and Jesus ,they are very important to the Jews, Moses to Judaism and Jesus to Christianity. As stated in Deuteronomy 34:5-6, God himself buried Moses to an undisclosed place and to Jesus,God removed His body. committing. Meaning it prevented both christians and Jews from being enticed to make pilgrimages or pay homage to such sites. It protected them from creature-worship. In contrast, what did the Muslims do with Muhammad’s tomb after his death? Muslims built a mosque on his tomb. His grave became a place for Muslim pilgrims to visit in Medina annually. The Prophet’s tomb at Medina is, after Mecca, the site most venerated by Muslims. It is visited with reverence in the hearts of the faithful. Ironically, these Muslims fell into the very class of people, upon whom Muhammad beseeched Allah’s curse.

Unlike Jehovah, Allah did not have the
wisdom or the insight to prevent the
causes that could lead to creature-
worship among his worshippers.

The 12th century work by Qadi Iyad is
highly accepted throughout the Muslim
world. Al-Qadi Iyadibn Musa al-Yahsubi
(1083 C.E.-1149 C.E.) wrote in his book
Al-Shifa’:

“Visiting his grave is part of the Sunna
and is both excellent and desirable.
Ibn `Umar said that the Prophet said,
‘My shafa’at (intercession on the
Day of Qiyamah) is Waajib
(incumbent upon me to intercede)
FOR THE ONE WHO VISIT MY GRAVE.’”