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Christianity Etc › Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by malvisguy212: 8:35am On Oct 02, 2015
Krystalzkris:
you raised a point about god existing outside time and space,can u explain what u mean by that?
Genesis 1:1, "In the beginning (TIME), God created the heavens(SPACE) and the earth (MATTER)."

The universe began to exist If something began to exist, something else must have caused its existence Therefore the universe was caused
by something else.

God exist outside the cosmic box , outside the dimension of time , the bible say God is a spirit . A spirit do not bound by the law of caused. God created this universe .
Christianity Etc › Re: Advice For Backsliding Christians. by malvisguy212(op): 10:54pm On Oct 01, 2015
tartar9:
fûck off
your choice.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Was Not Sent To Save The Whole World - Bible by malvisguy212: 2:42pm On Oct 01, 2015
rabzy01:
Ok. What about these:

And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. ......... There was not a single house where someone had not died. Exodus 12:29-30

Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all old and young, girls and women and little children. Ezekiel 9:5-7

[size=14pt]KILL OLD AND YOUNG, GIRLS AND WOMEN AND LITTLE CHILDREN?? [/size] cry cry
the context of ezekiel 9 is about Slaughter of the Idolaters. God judgement on sinners.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Was Not Sent To Save The Whole World - Bible by malvisguy212: 2:34pm On Oct 01, 2015
rabzy01:
Ok. What about these:

And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. ......... There was not a single house where someone had not died. Exodus 12:29-30

Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all old and young, girls and women and little children. Ezekiel 9:5-7

[size=14pt]KILL OLD AND YOUNG, GIRLS AND WOMEN AND LITTLE CHILDREN?? [/size] cry cry
you are beating someone ,is it right for me to attack you without finding out , what causes the fight ? You pick one verse and then conclude , God is a murderer. The killing of the first born is the ten plague ,prior to the first plague God had warn Pharaoh to let the isrealite go , but he refused , hence he fall on the judgement of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Advice For Backsliding Christians. by malvisguy212(op): 9:24am On Oct 01, 2015
Is any backsliding christian reading this ? Atheists ,agnostics ,muslim or pagan. Jesus say in the book of revelation, I read :
Revelation 3:20
Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.

This may be the final invitation. Peace.
Christianity Etc › Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by malvisguy212: 9:05am On Oct 01, 2015
Krystalzkris:
you are just funny... You think being theist or atheist makes someone moral ryt? Sometimes i dont know where y'all keep ur sense of reasoning...
okay.

freecocoa:
Don't take this as an insult but you are extremely stup1d, who gave you the right to declare anyone a sinner? Like whatever 'sin' an atheist commits isn't being committed by one useless pastor or born again brethren somewhere, some atheists are even more morally upright than you lots who use forgiveness of sin by god as a platform to commit atrocities.
you are a righteous lady. Alright.
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 7:33am On Oct 01, 2015
Demmzy15:
Ok, now in conclusion, God loved everyone past, present and future?! undecided
you are very funny.
Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities 2 (reason Over Faith) by malvisguy212: 7:29am On Oct 01, 2015
Op. Just because your Sunday school teacher discourage you from asking question doesent mean the bible do so.
The talking donkey do not just start talking on his own , the bible indicate , it was a supernatural event ,just because you don't believe in miracle dos not mean people who believe in it are foolish.

Now, concerning faith: contrary to what the op writes, the Bible does not teach blind faith. In fact, the Bible actually tells believers to test everything ( 1
Thessalonians 5:21). No other "holy" book tells its readers to actually put what it says to the test. The Bible can make such a statement because it passes the tests of truthfulness that no other "holy" book can. God Himself in His revelation to Isaiah stated, "Come now, and let us REASON TOGETHER..." God, the Creator of humans and human reasoning ability wants us to use that ability to determine His plan of salvation. How do we determine if the Bible is true? We test it and see if it is reasonable. Psalm 19 tells us that the universe "declares the glory of God" and that this "voice goes out into all the earth." This site is dedicated to showing how the universe declares God's love and design. In fact, the Bible says that the evidence for God's design of the
universe is so strong that people are
"without excuse" in rejecting God and His plan of salvation.

Psalm26:2
Examine me, O LORD, and try me;
Test my mind and my heart.

Jeremiah 17:10
"I, the LORD, search the heart, I test
the mind, Even to give to each man
according to his ways, According to
the results of his deeds.

A zeal for God is not sufficient to please Him, since many Jews have this zeal, although it is misplaced since it is "not in accordance with knowledge." The Bible encourages believers to have a knowledge-based faith, built upon sound biblical doctrine. When Paul preached the gospel, he did it through reasoning from the scriptures and not an appeal to blind faith, Paul even say "if an angel or human should preach different gospel,let him be accused" meaning people are not to believe him on blind faith , but are encourage to put to test on what he preach , to see if he preach different gospel.
Christianity Etc › Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by malvisguy212: 6:41am On Oct 01, 2015
dalaman:
Why do you keep deceiving yourselves with this lie that atheist are atheist because they are immoral people? Are you not a religious Nigerian living in Nigeria? Does Nigeria look like a country where people are morally superior to any body? You live in one of the most religious countries in the world which also doubles as one of the most corrupt and rotten countries in the world that has no value for human life and yet you still open your mouth and talk about atheist being immoral. You don't even value for human life in Nigeria despite all your excessive religiosity and belief in God, but you still open your mouth and say that atheist are atheist because they want to live immoral lives. Are you a moral person? You whose heart is filled with deceit and hate for those that do not share your religious delusions is talking about morality. You are insane.
Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupting talk come out of your
mouths, but only such as is good for
building up, as fits the occasion, that it
may give grace to those who hear.

Proverbs 6:16-19
There are six things that the Lord hates,
seven that are an abomination to him:
haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands
that shed innocent blood, a heart that
devises wicked plans, feet that make
haste to run to evil, a false witness who
breathes out lies, and one who sows
discord among brothers.
Christianity Etc › Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by malvisguy212: 6:15am On Oct 01, 2015
keenn:
As regards the surety for the existence of a creator, I am not certain.

Nevertheless, is it not probable to think there is or was once a God?

What if the whole distraction , world event, wars, human suffering, illogical religious ideas...that instigated inquisition for skepticism was all a detour?

That said, there is a trend I have noticeD in my life that I would like to share with u.

Ever since I have stopped praying or hoping for God intervention in my life...that means, planning my life as if it all depends solely on my actions and inactions, I have made progress.

I make everyday worth it...it could be my last, I try to help the weak even at my detriment as much as I can knowing no help comes from above.

If there is a God, people are in pains in hospital. Pls help them
my good friend, do not allow the devil to deceive you , God is there , He is waiting for you, forget about this atheists who are writing long epistle to deceive you with there seducing doctrine. Let me tell you the truth , To believe in God , it will caused you your favourite sin ,that is why atheists don't want to believe in God because they cannot do without their favourite sin.

An atheist who like to live immoral life, an evangelist approach him and say "repent and live a good live " do you think he will repent ? I tell you the truth any small opportunity that came his way which disprove the existence of God , he will believe it and be ready to defend it just because he want to continue living immoral life.
https://www.nairaland.com/2635294/advice-backsliding-christians
Christianity Etc › Advice For Backsliding Christians. by malvisguy212(op): 10:53pm On Sep 30, 2015
2 Peter 2:20-22, we read of the real
possibility and serious consequences
of backsliding:

2 Peter 2:20-22,
"For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus
Christ,they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness,than,after they
have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire."

Yes, this is interesting, we find this passage coming from the pen of peter. If anyone know the reality of firsthand backsliding, it must be peter , the night he betrayed our Lord Jesus christ .

The process of backsliding is a gradual one, often overtaking one by surprise (peter could not believe,he will deny Jesus) . And lest we fall from our own steadfastness, We shall carefully examine the process that led to Peter's denial of Christ, followed by noticing how Peter's own words in his epistles are designed to prevent the same from happening to us!

1. PRIDE.
Mark 14:27-31,
"And Jesus saith unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered. But after that I am risen, I will go before you into Galilee. But Peter said unto him, ALTHOUGH ALL SHALL BE
OFFENDED, YET WILL NOT I. And Jesus saith unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this day, even in this night, before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. But he spake the more vehemently, If I should die with thee, I will not deny thee in any wise. Likewise also said they all."

In a boastful manner, Peter claims he
will not fall away or deny Christ! In
doing so, Peter takes the first step in
backsliding: "pride" (Proverbs 16:18).
Why is this the "first" step? Because
the first step in entering the kingdom
is HUMILITY( Mathew 18:3-4). So if we
lose "humility", we take that first step
BACKWARD.

2.COWARDICE.
Mark 14:54,
"AND PETER FOLLOW HIM AFAR OFF , even into the palace of the high priest: and he sat with the servants, and warmed himself at the fire."

Is this not cowardice? When Jesus was healing and the people love Him , peter walk by His side, and now when Jesus was unpopular, he walk afar off,is this not the same peter who vow to follow Jesus ? . Peter was unprepared for the challenge of facing ridicule and persecution. Without diligent preparation, we too can become guilty of cowardice! Ashamed to be seen carrying the scriptures. Ashamed to be seen giving thanks. Ashamed to be seen with other believers in Christ. Perhaps
even ashamed to let others know that
we are believers! And yet, Jesus has made it clear what He thinks of "cowardice" (Mark 8:38)

3. DENIAL.
Mark 14:66-71,
"And as Peter was beneath in the palace, there cometh one of the maids of the high priest: And when she saw
Peter warming himself, she looked upon him, and said, And thou also wast with Jesus of Nazareth.But he DENIED, saying, I know not, neither understand I
what thou sayest. And he went out into the porch; and the cock crew. And a maid saw him again,and began to say to them that stood by, This is one of them.
And he DENIED IT AGAIN. And a little after, they that stood by said again to Peter, Surely thou art one of them: for thou art a Galilaean, and thy speech
agreeth thereto. But he began to CURSE AND SWEAR , saying, I know not this man of whom ye speak."

First he "DENIED" and later he" CURSE AND SWEAR "(which Jesus Himself warn against) Away from Christ, at comfort with those in the world, Peter finds himself denying His Lord and Savior! In so doing, he has put himself in grave
danger (Matthew 10:32-33). Though
we may never actually deny Jesus in
"words", we can easily backslide to
the point of denying Him in "action."

In conclusion, amazingly, it was peter himself who give advice from backsliding christians;

1. To Guard Against Pride:
Peter enjoins "humility" (1Peter 5:5-6).
Indeed, "God resists the PROUD, but gives grace to the HUMBLE."
2. Instead of Cowardice:
Peter charges us to "glorify God" (1 Peter 4:16). Think NOT of what it means to
you, BUT what it means to God!
3. Instead Of Denial:
Peter exhorts us to ever be ready to "give a defense" (1Peter 3:15).
By careful preparation, we will "DEFEND " Christ, and NOT "DENY" Christ!
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Was Not Sent To Save The Whole World - Bible by malvisguy212:
rabzy01:
Ok. Now listen to your LORD:

"Go up, my warriors,..................... Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD." Jeremiah 50:21

I warned you:

"Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD[, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." 1 Kings 20:36.
in Jeremiah 50. The people God order to kill, are rebellious people , you cannot explained why God sanctioned this killing using a 'single' verse.

Our God is a God of justice ,the punishment of sinners is in correspondent to their crime

1 Kings 20:36.
So the prophet said, "BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT OBEYED THE LORD, as soon as you leave me a lion will kill you." And after the man went away, a lion found him and killed him.
Christianity Etc › Re: What If God Is A Myth! by malvisguy212: 12:53pm On Sep 30, 2015
ifeness:
What if santa isn't a myth?
a very lame defence.
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 9:15am On Sep 30, 2015
Rilwon:
Is that hard for you to do?


To clarify matters on this thread.




The google I checked said Isaac is a Prophet, and you say he is not. Now, please kindly search that same google and copy atleast 20prophets of the bible for us to see.

I believe that's not hard for you to do, is it?
the bible never mention Isaac as a prophet , google is not a scripture, if I paste articles from google which exposed the dark side of muhammed, will you believe it ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by malvisguy212: 10:43pm On Sep 29, 2015
Scholar8200:
Give us proof to the contrary! Wait a minute, you quoted copiously from the Bible in the op, why the sudden digression?! Establish your claims from the Bible! And give examples of people who actually had pre-teen (remember your topic-paedophilia) as wives or sex-slaves else you distract your own thread.




Not when the law is there for all to see besides those like Solomon who had concubines were exposed, David and his adulterous act was exposed in details. Meaning, you are wrong. But if you have proof from scripture, do supply them! Show ONE person that had a sex slave and was egged on by the Law/a true prophet nay just show one sex-slave owner!

Open a thread on slavery bro. Besides, the OT was an eye for an eye therefore, Israel was also shared too when she backslid and failed to hid warnings. What a God? A God of Justice!


From the soldiers who fought in the battle, set apart as tribute for the LORD [size=13pt]one out of every five hundred[/size], whether people, cattle, donkeys or sheep
Numbers 31:28

From the Israelites' half, select one out of every fifty, whether people, cattle, donkeys, sheep or other animals. Give them to the Levites, who are responsible for the care of the LORD's tabernacle."
Numbers 31:30
Quite different from the 1 out of 500 meant for the Lord's tribute and handed to Eleazar.


Good you have learnt something new today smiley! Who were the Midianites and who were the Israelites? Daniel was a godly young man but he was carried away captive when his nation was conquered. In fact he became a eunuch(was castrated)!
excellent bro. Thread close.
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 10:15pm On Sep 29, 2015
Demmzy15:
Please charge and explain better.
first you ask me a question which I answer with a resounding YES , and you want me to explained ? Did you not read were I say " before Jeremiah was form in the womb , God chose him.God had already plan everything from the beginning before the world began, the plan of salvation, He knows the devil will capitalise on our weakness of freewill , that why He plan to save us through His son Jesus christ, If God had not love US, He wouldn't have care to save us.
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 11:04am On Sep 29, 2015
Demmzy15:
Thank you, you don't seem to get me. I said does god love those of past, present and future as you tried to portray in one of your posts?
Yes. Bible say He first love us before we love Him.

My battery is low, I may reply you later.
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 10:35am On Sep 29, 2015
Demmzy15:
Good morning sir, my question is are you 100% sure that your god loves all people, both past, present and future?!
Good morning to you too and happy sallah in advance. God love everyone of us ,he say to Jeremiah "before you were born ,I chose you .
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 10:31am On Sep 29, 2015
mubarakopeyemi:
In the case of christianity, an unbeliever that died without believing Yahweh killed his son is going to Hell fire, is this true or not?

Are dead non-christian/unbeliever going to hell or not??
Jesus say, "I Am the way the truth and Life, no ONE come to the father except through me" what you muslims don't understand is that this statement is an invitation to both believers and unbelievers. An unbeliever will always have the opportunity to repent as long as Jesus died for ALL PEOPLE , if the unbeliever reject this gift, we call this "a choice" (freewill)
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 10:24am On Sep 29, 2015
mubarakopeyemi:
Quran 1:1 - In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.

Gracious

adjective gra·cious \ˈgrā-shəs\

a : marked by kindness and courtesy <a gracious host>

b : graceful

c : marked by tact and delicacy : urbane

d : characterized by charm, good taste, generosity of spirit, and the tasteful leisure of wealth and good breeding <gracious living>

Merciful

adjective mer·ci·ful \ˈmər-si-fəl\

: treating people with kindness and forgiveness : not cruel or harsh : having or showing mercy

: giving relief from suffering


That is the first verse in the Quran, out of the numerous places where it is mentioned that Allah is loving, merciful, gracious, forgiving, helping etc
we call this beautiful nonsense!!
This are attribute to Allah alone, however this verse was not talking about Love .

"The love of God is the chief attribute of
the biblical God as revealed in such
places as John 3:16.God has feelings for
his creatures, " But when we turn to the Quran, we do not find love presented as the chief attribute of Allah. Instead, the
transcendence of Allah is his chief
attribute."Neither does Allah 'have feelings' toward man. That concept is foreign to Islamic teaching. That would reduce Allah to being a mere man -which again is blasphemous to a Muslim." read more https://www.nairaland.com/2541133/what-love-quran
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 8:00am On Sep 29, 2015
Demmzy15:
Bros Rilwon, are you seeing what I'm seeing?! huh shocked grin grin

**faints**
am I lying ? Can you list verse were Allah love unbelievers ? NO!!
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 7:44am On Sep 29, 2015
mubarakopeyemi:
The problem is they won't answer your questions directly they will start narrating how the cat killed the rat grin

Robots
do you really expect me to list 20 prophet ? For what ? If you want to know the number of prophet , check google.
malvisguy212:
the bible never mention Isaac as a prophet . your answer indicate you agree with the talmud, do the talmud mention muhammed as a prophet ? Why will the Jews have soo many prophet and only one came from arab with different message? And the manner in which All this prophet received their revelation is different from muhammed. All prophet encounter the Almighty God when receiving there revelation, only muhammed received his own through an angel . Why ?
mubarakopeyemi:
The problem is they won't answer your questions directly they will start narrating how the cat killed the rat grin

Robots
do you really expect me to list 20 prophet ? For what ? If you want to know the number of prophet , check google.
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 11:38pm On Sep 28, 2015
Rilwon:
Robot [size=20pt] List atleast 20 prophet of the bible. [/size]
you're not even ashamed to call the numbers even when the arab have just ONE self proclaim prophet whose message contradicte the others prophet message . Go through the bible and study how God revealed his messages to his prophet, before God revealed his message to them He will make known to them who Is He ,for example " the God of your father, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob " He want the prophet to know who they are encounting , the true God. But in the case of muhammed, it was different , the angel even begin with violent conduct , infacte, muhammed thought he was possess.
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 11:26pm On Sep 28, 2015
enieme:
hmmm, u nko?
read my post on nairaland and paste were I insulted anyone. People who insult and make noise on the internet are very shy in real life, they just use the internet to unleash their arrogance.
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 11:20pm On Sep 28, 2015
Rilwon:
Okay, if you can't tell me how God choosed them all. Can you please list atleast 20 prophets of the Bible?
I gave you example on how God called his prophet and you still don't get it, do you think this men go for interview ? maby you don't understand, let try it like this. Did this prophet chose themselves ? Did they call God and say they want to be a prophet ? “Father of the Faithful.” it was God himself who gave Abraham this title, Abraham did not give himself. David was in the field when God call him to rule over isreal .
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 11:05pm On Sep 28, 2015
Rilwon:
Can you please list them and reference how they were appointed?
go and read the bible, it was God himself who was calling them .Moses was even far away with his sheep when God call him, in Jeremiah chapter one it say"The Lord said to me, “Before I formed you in your mother’s womb I CHOSE YOU . And in first Samuel 3:10 it say "Then the Lord came and stood nearby,CALLING as he had previously done,Samuel Samuel"

God in His wisdom chose men who would obey Him faithfully and He gave them authority to speak on His behalf.
Prophets were not chosen or elected by
men, and they were not permitted to
inherit the title or regard it as an official
post to be filled by a man specially
trained for it. Notice also that God told them what to do.

But muhammed was not chosen by God, it was through the angel Gabriel ( a spirit being who act different from bible angels) muhammed received his revelation.
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 10:47pm On Sep 28, 2015
Rilwon:
Okay, thanks.
@enieme,rilwayn will never stop insulting people, insult dey e blood.
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 10:36pm On Sep 28, 2015
Rilwon:
First of all answer my question: [size=20pt] WHO IS A PROPHET? [/size]

I will answer this post whenever you answrr the above question..
okay. A prophet is an inspired teacher who proclaim the will of God . Hearing from God doesent mean you are a prophet , it is God himself who appoint His prophet. Just as Jesus appoint His own disciples.
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 10:25pm On Sep 28, 2015
truthman2012:
Which other post are you talking about?

Sure, God reveals only messages that are yet unknown to man, no need repeating Himself and that is one of my points. Every generation has peculiar messages based on their actions and behaviours and God often times needed to speak to them through various prophets.

But according to islam and even you, allahh was reaping himself hundreds of times in all generations Infact, he had no other message other than ''worship one-God and do not associate partners with him, other aspect of human lives did not matter to him. As if that existing message is not on records already, he keeps sending all prophets to say the same thing for all generations.

That reapetition of messages by allah is what you anchored your defence upon by saying all prophets, including Ishmael were given the same message, because you could find the revelations allahh claimed he gave to him.

We found where allahh spoke to Adam. We found where he spoke to Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad etc but no record of where he spoke to Ishmael as a prophet. So in islam it is only the revelation given to Ishmael that is missing. There is record of even Adam who first lived, why is that of Ishmael who lived much later is missing.

The truth is that no revelation was given to Ishmael, it is only one of the devices of the Devil to deceive humanity.

As I said earlier, Ishmael case is not the only lie I discovered in the quran, the false claim of past prophets marrying the wives of their adopted sons and past prophets receiving revelation from satan like Muhammad could not be disputed.
this evening, I was watching a christian programme (faith TV) Joycemeyer . A muslims girl came home and told her parents, "I am now a christian" they ask why, the girl reply, "because God love me that is why he FIRST send His son to die for my sin " she was not tough that Allah love her , she was only tough to OBEY Allah . Yes that what islam is about , obey allah , love allah and his messanger , don't ask question.

@ All muslims , has your Alfa or imam ever told you, Allah love you ? ( If you lie ,deep inside you, you know the truth ) NO muslims can BOAST Allah love him .
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 10:08pm On Sep 28, 2015
Rilwon:
But you said Isaac is not a prophet? undecided

Is Abraham a prophet, yes or no? Did Abraham also come from the lineage of Isaaac?

Please answer my questions, don't evade them this time. undecided



Wrong!

Here is what the Quran say
34/24"Verily We have sent thee in truth, as a bearer of glad tidings, and as a warner: and there never was a people, without a warner having lived among them (in the past).
14/4 " We sent not an apostle except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. Now God leaves straying those whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases: and He is Exalted in power, full of Wisdom.

The point is there was not a nation that didn't receive a Messenger from God reciting to them the Truth in their own language. The Jews believe this too.

"The Talmud teaches that there were hundreds of thousands of prophets: twice as many as the number of people who left Egypt, which was 600,000. But most of the prophets conveyed messages that were intended solely for their own generation and were not reported in scripture . Scripture identifies only 55 prophets of Israel." http://www.jewfaq.org/m/prophet.htm
the bible never mention Isaac as a prophet . your answer indicate you agree with the talmud, do the talmud mention muhammed as a prophet ? Why will the Jews have soo many prophet and only one came from arab with different message? And the manner in which All this prophet received their revelation is different from muhammed. All prophet encounter the Almighty God when receiving there revelation, only muhammed received his own through an angel . Why ?
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 3:43pm On Sep 28, 2015
truthman2012:
Yes, that the quran calls him a prophet is not in dispute.

The bible calls him an archer and the quran calls him a prophet who was given REVELATIONS. The question is: what were the revelations given to him and where can we find them.

That he used to enjoin his family As-Salat was not a revelation. Every true muslim does that and does not amount to receiving revelation.
enieme. Just incase you miss this post, read it again.
Islam › Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by malvisguy212: 3:40pm On Sep 28, 2015
rabzy01:
If only you read your bible, you will not make this comment. The bible contains both plain ince-nse and 100% hardcore P0n0grahy. Have you ever read these in the bible?

1- Daughters slept with their father
"And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. – Bible : Genesis (19) : 33 – 36.

2- Brother slept with his brother's wife
"And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. – Bible : Genesis (38) : 8 – 9.
nonsense!!! The daughters of Noah were acting contrary to the word of God, the bible is very clear on in*cense. Please read the following
divine commandments in the Holy Bible:

Leviticus 18:20: “Do not have sexual
relations with your neighbor’s wife
and defile yourself with her.”

1 Corinthians 6:9-10: Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who have sex with men, nor thieves,nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom.

Leviticus 18:6-18: “No-one is to
approach any close relative to have
sexual relations. I am Jehovah. 7
‘Do not dishonour your father by
having sexual relations with your
mother. She is your mother; do not
have relations with her. 8 ‘Do not
have sexual relations with your
father’s wife; that would dishonour
your father. 9 ‘Do not have sexual
relations with your sister, either your
father’s daughter or your mother’s
daughter, whether she was born in
the same home or elsewhere. 10 ‘Do
not have sexual relations with your
son’s daughter or your daughter’s
daughter; that would dishonour you.
11 ‘Do not have sexual relations with
the daughter of your father’s wife,
born to your father; she is your sister.
12 ‘Do not have sexual relations with
your father’s sister; she is your
father’s close relative. 13 ‘Do not have
sexual relations with your mother’s
sister, because she is your mother’s
close relative. 14 ‘Do not dishonour
your father’s brother by approaching
his wife to have sexual relations; she
is your aunt. 15 ‘Do not have sexual
relations with your daughter-in-law.
She is your son’s wife; do not have
relations with her. 16 ‘Do not have
sexual relations with your brother’s
wife; that would dishonour your
brother. 17 ‘Do not have sexual
relations with both a woman and
her daughter. Do not have sexual
relations with either her son’s
daughter or her daughter’s daughter;
they are her close relatives. That is
wickedness. 18 ‘Do not take your
wife’s sister as a rival wife and have
sexual relations with her while your
wife is living.”

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