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frosbel2:
Don't mind the hypocritical bigot.

Sura 6:120, Forsake the
outwardness of sin and the inwardness
thereof. Lo! those who garner sin will
be awarded that which they have
earned.

So there is Hell to pay for great sins, but
the small sins will be overlooked if the
great ones are not committed.

Sura 4:30-31, Whoso doeth that
(evil deeds) through aggression and
injustice, We shall cast him into Fire,
and that is ever easy for Allah. If ye
avoid the great (things) which ye are
forbidden, We will remit from you
your evil deeds and make you enter at
a noble gate.

This clearly implies that Allah will only
send you to hell for great sins. Small sins, like lust will be overlooked. It doesent matter if I rape a little girl, I just need to outweigh this wickedness with just two good deed. this is satanic deception, our righteousness is a filty rags in the eyes of God.

frosbel2:
Hypocritical bigot !

The bible supports sex slaves.

" Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man " - Numbers 31:17-18

"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. Exodus 21:7-11 NLT

1. American Christian soldiers raped and murdered many Iraqi women - fact
2. Lord resistance army has raped and killed thousands of women in Uganda - fact
3. Pastors rape and defile under aged girls, wives and females almost on a weekly basis - fact.


Again, you cannot stereotype a whole group by the actions of some.

in number 31. the Midianites were descendants of Abraham through Keturah, and by the time of Numbers 31, were a ‘tribal league’ of different clans and families. The midianites were corrupted and they are seducing isreal to worship others gods:

Numbers 25:1-3
1 While Israel was staying in Shittim, the
men began to indulge in se*xual
immorality with MOABITE WOMEN,2 who invited them to the sacrifices to their gods. The people ate and bowed down before these gods. 3 So ISREAL JOINED IN WORSHIPPING the Baal of Peor. And the LORD's anger burned against them.

You see, the isrealite were having se*xual intercourse with the moabite women ,and this women are baal worshippers , because God had promise an everlasting covenant with Abraham, so he want to preserve the midianites , hence He save the virgin, infacte this virgin had to wait outside isreal for purification:

Number31:19
19 And all of you who have killed anyone or touched a dead body must stay outside the camp for seven days. You must PURIFY YOURSELVES and your CAPTIVES on the third and seventh days.

And in number 25:17-18. It state why God oder the killing:

The LORD said to Moses, 17 “Treat the
Midianites as enemies and kill them, 18 because they treated you as enemies when they deceived you in the affair of Peor and their sister Cozbi, the daughter of a Midianite leader, the woman who was killed when the plague came as a result of Peor.”

The reasons are stated in this passage as:
(1)hostilities taken by the Midianites; and (2) deception of Israel by them, in the ‘affair of Peor’. So God preserve the virgins so that the midianites will not be wipe out, for they are among the descendant of Abraham.

Concerning the slaves,slavery in the bible is not the same as slavery of nowadays, when Jacob volunteers to work and in return marry the woman he love, bible called it slavery.

urheme:
The character called jesus is not a religion, and he did no die to give you religion, his philosophy i respect, his teachings i know, i also know that Jesus is irreligious.
Jesus was a freedom fighter, a revolutionarist, he came to free you from the bondage of religion created by men.

Am sure you have sold all your belongings and giving to the poor "follow jesus" that is what it means.

christ is more than what you described Him as, to be a follower of christ, is like this:

"It's like two dogs, a black dog and a white dog, fighting inside of me." and the one that is winning is the one I FEED the most"

The points is that, the sinner's and the saint's believe in Jesus teaching, but who among this two feed on His teaching the most ? I believe you know the answer to this question. Sinner's or saint's? If you are not a "saint's" than you must be an "ants".

urheme:
Just tell us what religion is right and correct since you have the spirit of discernment.

follow Jesus.

urheme:
So which one is a way to God
Religions or spirituality and how do you define spirituality in relation to a God

Most religions say Jesus was a great teacher or prophet. So focus on that great teacher. Until you do, God will remain a blur. Consider a worst-case scenario. Suppose another religion were right and instead of following that religion, I became a Christian. Many
religions would say the Christian life is reasonably moral.So, according to them,
although I would miss top spot, my life after death would be fairly comfortable. A few claim that if I ignored their religion, after death I'll cease to exist. I
can handle that. Some say I'd get another chance through reincarnation. That's not too bad. But, relative to almost all religions, Jesus increased the
stakes enormously. If he is right and I ignore him, the consequences are unthinkable. In addition, unlike most other religions,Jesus leaves his believers certain that they will enter heaven. Other religions typically place so many
requirements on their adherents before they could be considered worthy of heaven that their followers endure a
lifetime of uncertainty as to whether they have met those requirements.

To determine if Jesus' teaching is from God requires divine insight. Whether God grants a person this spiritual
understanding hinges on a single factor. That critical factor,said Jesus, is your willingness to obey God (John 7:17). Why
should God brother to open your eyes to spiritual truth if you are unwilling to respond to that truth? Yet, few of us are
prepared to pay that price. It involves a willingness to relinquish our hopes and
dreams for the future, to forego our pet sins and anything else God may ask.

Such abandonment seems crazy until we consider who God is. The God who made and sustains the entire universe is the source of all knowledge, moral goodness and love. That means he is good, he is trustworthy, he has our best
interest at heart,he is wiser than us and he loves us more than we love ourselves. Obeying God is the smartest
thing anyone could ever do. Until we acknowledge this and are willing to obey God, we obviously don't want God in our lives. We might want him as our
slave, or as a curiosity, but not as God.If so, why should God waste time giving us the spiritual discernment to know whether Jesus is the only way to God? Until we rectify this, we can expect God to let us remain spiritually confused, subject to the deceptive powers of anti-
God influences, unable to determine which religion is right.

lexiconkabir:
@bold i think you should give us the names of these "scholars" @underlined alright we gave our answers using the quran, how is the quran our ideas?

what I mean to say is " most muslims believe All prophet are sinless"

The idea that All prophet are sinless, It came from a scholar in the 12 century AD, by the name of Abdulrazak who began teaching this falsehood 500 years after Muhammad!

WhoBeThisMan:
At the end of the day, by the time you study carefully all the arguments above, you Wil come to one conclusion, Jesus was indeed the son of God. That's what makes Him so special. I all history, both Bible and Koran was there any one like Him.

Have you ever stoped to ask yourself, why was Jesus born without sin? The bible says
1 coritians 5:21
God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God

Brothers and sisters, sin could not be removed from man until Jesus took out place, died in our place, paid the ultimate price for our sins that today we stand blameless for our sins has been paid for. Satan has no right to touch us anymore. No wonder Jesus him self said: these signs shall follow them who believe, in my name they shall cast out demons.

I stop replying them because they are Great twister. Satan touch ALL mankind from birth except Jesus, what does this mean ? All what they are doing, they are given their own interpretation and idea. He is faultless ,most Holy and blameless, dosent this mean Jesus is sinless ? Infacte most Islamic scholars believe Jesus is sinless.

maverickboy:
My explanations may not be helpful in correcting ur misconception due to certain reasons, but l shall never fail.

Did I dispute about the hadith? No!
the hadith simply told us about the prayer of Maryam's mother in [q 3: 35/36]. Jesus wasn't the only exception, but also his mother. And it wasn't because of any other reason than the prayer of his grandparent. However, if u think there is other reasons why Mary and Jesus was exceptions kindly present it for us to see. But if u can't do that, the argument is dead!
Whatever the effect might be, it doesn't automatically make u a sinner which is the bone of contention here.
I guess Jesus and Mary didn't cry when they were borne to this world. But, there is no significance to that since it didn't make them more or less human.
LOL! how?

am only a messenger of your Lord, to announce to you a faultless son (Surah 19:19).

The words used in Arabic to describe him are ghulaaman-zakiyyan, “A MOST-HOLY BOY .” The word zakiyya, meaning
“BLAMELESS,” appears only twice in the
Quran. The other occasion is in the story
about Moses in which he met a young
man who is described as being innocent. But in this case, the word was only referring to the young man’s innocence of any crime deserving of death, but in Jesus’ case, the angel was describing his whole personality and character BEFORE he was even born. “Faultless” or “blameless” clearly means without sin.

maverickboy:
Firstly, let's look at the significance of devil's touch on new born babies. Does it have any significance as regards the baby's spiritual wellness? NO! as contained in the hadith (Sahih al-Bukhari,
Arabic-English, vol.8, no.597 and Sahib Muslim,
Eng. Trans. vol 4, no. 6423). All of us are borne in a sinless form, and we're incapable of sinning for the next 41 days. And after 41 days till the age of accountability, we incur no sin for our misdeeds. This categorically means the action of devil towards us at birth has no effect on our state of purity because 41 days after his action on us, we still remain as we were before his action.
But then, is devil just playing prank with a child when he pinches him/her? That one is not clear, but the result of his pinch on babies is what makes new babies cry as scholars stated.
Secondly, the reason why Jesus and Mary were exceptions is not far fetch. While we can't suffer from the misdeeds of our parents, (see Qur'an 4:111; 6:164) we can benefit from their good deeds and their prayers for us will not go in vain. Such is the case of Mary and Jesus; devil was unable to touch them however hard he tried and only touch their placentas instead only because of the prayer of Mary's mother for her child and grandchildren
(q 3:35-36).
Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 35: (Remember) when the wife of 'Imran said: "O my Lord! I have vowed to You what (the child that) is in my womb to be dedicated for Your services (free from all worldly work; to serve Your Place of worship), so accept this, from me. Verily, You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knowing."
36: Then when she delivered her child [Maryam (Mary)], she said: "O my Lord! I have delivered a female child," - and Allah knew better what she delivered, - "And the male is not like the female, and I have named her Maryam (Mary), and I seek refuge with You (Allah) for her and for her offspring from Shaitan (Satan), the outcast." Therefore, that Devil couldn't pinch Mary and Jesus at birth was merely because God answered the prayer of His faithful servant on her offspring nothing more and nothing less.

Salam!

listen! Your explanation does not hold ground at all , you failed woefully.

You say" ALL of us are born sinless and incapable of sining" but the hadith I provide say satan touch ALL human from birth EXCEPT Jesus. What is the effect of satan touching All humans from birth ? What effect satan put on a child via the touching, this effect cannot work on Jesus because satan did not touch it. So your explanation contradicte the hadith.

frosbel2:
This is an indictment against false shepherds and prophets.

You have not heard me condemning anyone here for one sin or the other. I am simply using my article to point out the obvious, which is that most of your so called pastors are making a career and profit out of God and their damnation does not slumber.

Alright, will the hypocrisy in the church prevent you of becoming a better christian ?if my father is a fraud , does that mean ALL fathers are fraud ? You and I know the teaching of Jesus and any one who teach contrary to His teaching is not a christian.

frosbel2:
In that case focus on your sins and the sins of your church and stop bothering Muslims.

Don't be a hypocrite !

I did that long time ago. You see my thread against the muslims as "bashing"thread, you see it that way because you did the same thing, the truth is that I do not create this thread to bash them BUT to ask question and needed answer.

you cannot accept some verses in the bible and reject some, it is either you reject ALL or you accept ALL.

Hypocrites are people who claim to be morally better than they really are. Authentic Christians claim to be so bad
that they deserve no forgiveness from God.Are you saying they are even worse
than that? Christians are people who consider themselves such moral failures that they have come to Jesus for help and forgiveness. Making it spiritually depends not on how popular or nice we are, but how much we want God to rule our life and change us. Whether it be through quirks of nature or upbringing or whatever, becoming likable is harder for some of us. Will the presence of hypocrisy in the church prevent you (frosbel2) to become a better christian?

frosbel2:
I know your type would rather we sweep all the dirt under the carpet while attacking those of other faiths. Which hypocrisy is worse ? The one that insults Muslims and others when they themselves are doing even more shameful things.

Should we not clean our own house first ?

"Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them" - Ephesians 5:11

"Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to everyone's conscience in the sight of God." - 2 Corinthians 4:2

[quote author=malvisguy212 post=37506006]read my post again, you misunderstood me,I do not say you must agree first, this is what I mean:
Matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first take the plank out of
your own eye, and then you will see
clearly to remove the speck from your
brother's eye.
Focus on changes you should make and not on other fault ,this does not mean we shouldn't call the sins of other to there attention .But God want us to FOCUS first on OUR sin then we will see CLEARLY to call their sins to there attention.

plaetton:

This is idio-cy of the most LETHAL grade.

So one must first agree to something before one is qualified to criticize it?

You never cease to amaze.

This is the same malvisguy212 that condemns all non christian beliefs?
The same guy who says yahweh is justified in genociding millions as payback for alleged sins?

read my post again, you misunderstood me,I do not say you must agree first, this is what I mean:
Matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first take the plank out of
your own eye, and then you will see
clearly to remove the speck from your
brother's eye.

Focus on changes you should make and not on other fault ,this does not mean we shouldn't call the sins of other to there attention .But God want us to FOCUS first on OUR sin then we will see CLEARLY to call their sins to there attention.

Ubenedictus:
ignoratio elenchi.
I'll repeat my question again, are good work not signs of d work of grace?

if good work can save you, what the point of the crucifixion if you can be save anyway? Even a pagan can do good work.

hahn:
@bolded, you mean denominations invented man? I thought you guys said it was god

were ?

hahn:
I asked a straight question and i was hoping for a straight answer.

where in the bible, we are encourage to belong to denomination?

Galatians 3:28
'There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus'

Denominations is man inventor.

freecocoa:
Now am certain you are indeed stup1d, so because I'm atheist I shouldn't be taken serious, take several seats back nigga.

its okay, you will be taken serious,infacte I will include you on my diary. have a blissful weekend

hahn:
Atheist are unstable in their argument? Would you then describe christianity which has over 30,000 different denominations worldwide as a stable entity portraying a stable belief?

you can double the figures if you like, the teaching of Jesus is there in the bible for All to read and understand.

freecocoa:
You must be very stup1d.

are you not an atheist ? Why are you angry , because I called you an atheist?

MuttleyLaff:
You have to be more explicit than this
Have I missed something?
Which verse(s) from the above post or verse(s) in Paul's epistle did Paul say he was not responsible for?

don't take her serious, she is an atheist.

menxer:
Bible scholar, who was Deborah in the bible that you would think God can't give leadership to a woman?
Was Eve the first or only transgressor in God's diary?
Who made you God's SSA on spiritual matters?

you made a good point, there is a reasonable explanation in the case of Deborah.

The Time of the Judges was not a good
period in the history of Israel because
after the time of Joshua’s death

Judges 2:10
“there arose another generation after them who did not know the Lord or the work that he had done for Israel”

You see, after Joshua died another generation arose who do not know the God of isreal,this generation worship others gods they completely abandoned the God of their forfather's, but because God has a covenant with the isrealite he provide for them a king:

Judges 2:18
The Lord then raised up for them godly
judges

Judges 2:19
“But whenever the judge died, they turned back and were More corrupt than their fathers, going after other gods, serving them and bowing down to them”

Not just one judge, but many and whenever this judge died, they turn back and worship others gods.

This happened time after time because

Judges 17:6
“In those days there was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes”

Israel needed a strong judge and God was about to provide them with one; one named Deborah. Not a single isrealite knows the God of their father's ONLY Deborah.

gatiano:
Saan deceived the whole world, very true. satan touch all from birth doesn't mean we are born in or from sin. Nobody was born in sin, not even the devils.

what is a satan?
what or who is a devil?

stop reading the hadith without fully understanding the Bible and most importantly The Quran.

satan touch everybody from birth, what does that indicate ? Everybody was born innocent and NOT righteous.

linusbnn:
When a woman is the head pastor nd founder,what other authoritative position will the men have over her?

in a world were everyone is in full control of his or her own freewill, human are bound to go against the word of God, listen, it is God himself who appoint His servant , God will not gives leadership to the women, why ?
1 Timothy 2:13–14
13 For Adam was formed first, then
Eve; 14 and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.

If you allow the scripture to do the interpretation through the spirit you will under what verse 13-14 is talking about.
God created Adam first and then created Eve to be a “HELPER” for Adam. The oder of creation has universal application of the church and family.

The text is very clear, women are not allow to have spiritual authority over men because the woman was deceive. In a church were woman is the leader mean they are going against the commandment of God.

maverickboy:
Give me the verse that talks about the erring of Yahya {John the Baptist} if you can't, then this doesn't hold water because anything that's good for the goose should be good for the gander. If simply the fact that Qur'an doesn't contain the mistakes of Jesus made him infallible, then John should be on list of whatever Jesus is. Don't you think?

I made myself clear! The hadith I provide say "Satan touch ALL men from birth with the exception of Jesus " satan touch ALL men including john .

hahn:
Where are our "believers"

@ an2select, kingebukasblog, malvisguy212, deepsight etc

atheists are unstable in their argument, first the bible is 'myth' and then David do not exist ,now, the story is not truthful. Do you expect a sincere debate with this kind of attitude ?

As a matter of fact , there was a thread when atheists argue, David did not kill Goliath.

Gift of prophecy , anyone can have this ,female or male, because it is a GIFT ,and when a female possessed this Gift ,she should not ASUME authority over the man.

Act 2:18
Even on my servants, both men and
women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.

If we say women are to be quite In church, does it mean women are not even allow to pray or sing ? NO.I believe women are allow to teach and preach but not to hold an authoritative leadership role over the men in the church.

The embarrassing thing about denouncing hypocrisy is that it is equally hypocritical to condemn those who do not follow the teachings of Christ if you do not follow the teachings
of Christ yourself. And one of His most fundamental teachings is that we should take our critical eyes off the sin of others and concentrate on our own
chronic need for Jesus' forgiveness (Matthew 7:1-5; Luke 6:37.

maverickboy:
Surah Maryam, Verse 20:
She said: When shall I have a boy and no mortal has yet touched me, nor have I been unchaste?

21: He said: Even so; your Lord says: It is easy to Me: and that We may make him a sign to men and a mercy from Us, and it is a matter which has been decreed.
(English - Shakir)
There is a reason for that, different from one u attributed to him though.
We all used to exist somewhere before prior to our birth into this particular world. What are u implying?

Surah Maryam, Verse 13:
And tenderness from Us and purity, and he [John] was one who guarded (against evil),
(English - Shakir) as much as I know, Faultless is synonymous to purity, no? So, faultless was used while purity was used for Jesus and John respectively.
and infact, Bible made the two individuals parallel. but I'm not going that way.

Lol, try and research a little about Islam cos it seems u know next to nothing about it. We're all sinless from birth, we incur sins through our deeds. and even, there're certain deeds that when done we can retain our sinless form. You gerrit?
Man, making mistakes is a nature of man but attributing wrongdoings to prophets of God is a step too far. Let's be mindful of our comments so as not to err. Those are the confirmed chosen ones through which God communicate with mankind and attributing the Whatnots that we can't even attribute to the so called prophets of today is very wrong. Qur'an doesn't portray any prophet as a wrongdoer, it's actually a terrible mistake that needs to be corrected from the bible.

The Qur’an teaches that the virgin-birth of Jesus was simply a manifestation of God’s power.

Surah 3:47: “She said: My Lord! How
can I have a child when no mortal
hath touched me? He said: So it will
be. Allah createth what He will. If
he decreeth a thing, He saith unto it
only: Be! And it is.” (Pickthall)

The truth of the matter is that the virgin
birth of Jesus Christ was not a random
manifestation of God’s creative power as
implied in the Qur’an. While the fact that it was brought about by the power of God is without any doubt, however, this initself does not explain its meaning or
purpose.Surely the great act of creating
the whole world, with all the animate
and inanimate things in it, out of
nothing are sufficient proofs of God’s
creative power.What necessity was there
to give a new demonstration of this
power? The Qur’an itself teaches that the
mere fact that God could create men out
of nothing is surely proof that God can
raise them from the dead.

Surah 22:5: “O mankind! If ye have a
doubt about the Resurrection,
consider that We created you out of
dust…” (Yusuf Ali)

As such, Allah is saying that no proof of
the ultimate resurrection is needed for
the unbelievers since his initial act of
creation is sufficient for man to perceive
his creative powers. In other words, there
is no need for Allah to further
demonstrate his creative powers. The
miraculous conception of Jesus just could
not have been for the purpose of a
manifestation of God’s power as there
was no visible demonstration of God’s
power for humans to behold when he
caused the conception to take place.

maverickboy:
Surah Maryam, Verse 20:
She said: When shall I have a boy and no mortal has yet touched me, nor have I been unchaste?

21: He said: Even so; your Lord says: It is easy to Me: and that We may make him a sign to men and a mercy from Us, and it is a matter which has been decreed.
(English - Shakir)
There is a reason for that, different from one u attributed to him though.
We all used to exist somewhere before prior to our birth into this particular world. What are u implying?

Surah Maryam, Verse 13:
And tenderness from Us and purity, and he [John] was one who guarded (against evil),
(English - Shakir) as much as I know, Faultless is synonymous to purity, no? So, faultless was used while purity was used for Jesus and John respectively.
and infact, Bible made the two individuals parallel. but I'm not going that way.

Lol, try and research a little about Islam cos it seems u know next to nothing about it. We're all sinless from birth, we incur sins through our deeds. and even, there're certain deeds that when done we can retain our sinless form. You gerrit?
Man, making mistakes is a nature of man but attributing wrongdoings to prophets of God is a step too far. Let's be mindful of our comments so as not to err. Those are the confirmed chosen ones through which God communicate with mankind and attributing the Whatnots that we can't even attribute to the so called prophets of today is very wrong. Qur'an doesn't portray any prophet as a wrongdoer, it's actually a terrible mistake that needs to be corrected from the bible.

what was the reason Jesus had the virgin birth ?

Did you read the hadith I provide or you just chose to believe lies and interpret wrong thing? The hadith say , satan touch ALL soul from birth EXCEPT Jesus.why ? Any reason for this ?
Below are list of prophet who commit sin and ask for forgiveness except Jesus who comit NO sin.

ADAM
Surah 7:23: They said: “Our Lord, we
have wronged our own souls. If thou
forgive us not and bestow not upon
us Thy mercy, we shall certainly be
lost.” (Yusuf Ali)
ABRAHAM
Surah 26:82: “And Who I hope will
forgive me my faults on the Day of
Judgment.” (Sher Ali)
MOSES
Surah 28:16: “He prayed: ‘O my Lord!
I have indeed wronged my soul! Do
Thou then forgive me!’ So God
forgave him.” (Yusuf Ali)
DAVID
Surah 38:24: “And David gathered
that We had tried him; he asked
forgiveness of His Lord, fell down,
bowing in prostration, and turned to
God in repentance.” (Yusuf Ali)
SOLOMON
Surah 38:35: “He said, ‘O my Lord!
Forgiveme’…” (Yusuf Ali)
JONAH
Surah 37:142-144: “Then the big Fish
did swallow him, and he had done
acts worthy of blame. Had it not
been that he repented and glorified
God, he would certainly have
remained inside the fish.” (Yusuf Ali)

The Qur’an also testifies that even
Muhammad is a sinner and is in need of
forgiveness.

MUHAMMAD
Surah 48:1-2: “Lo! We have given thee
O Muhammad a signal victory, That
Allah may forgive thee of thy sin
that which is past and that which is to
come.” (Pickthall)
Surah 47:19: “So know (O
Muhammad) that there is no God
save Allah, and ask forgiveness for
thy sin and for believing men and
believing women. Allah knoweth
(both) your place of turmoil and your
place of rest.” (Pickthall)

The list goes on and on.

Cc. Seun, Ishilove, Obinoscopy, Lalasticlala

dekatrons:
Funny!!..is it dat ur bible didn't tell u dat God is eternal nd u haven't reasoned for urself dat wat will make God chose to die or wat will make him chose to fart for instance or want to take a bath
Sorry to say ur questions are too illogical nd goes below intellectual standard
Yes death isn't nonexistence..but a state of unconsciousness..imagine.wat happens wen God d ruler of d universe decides to die
Neva said death is non-existence doh

listen!
There are Guideline which God will not step over because of WHO HE SAY HE IS, I mean, God cannot be God and be God at the same time ,God cannot create another God to be equal with Him.God will not stop being existing because The nature of God is infinite-meaning no end, He is from everlasting to everlasting. God's unchanging moral
character is a moral absolute, he changes not.

Death does not mean you stop existing ,your spirit is eternal and cannot die.

But to say God cannot have a son without a consort and LETER one of His creature have a son without a consort , is wrong

adewalker:
. "VerilyB our word unto a thing when We intend it,is only that we say 'BE' unto it and it is"quran 16:40,see this is islamic point of view,for God to create the heaves and the earth ten times over,He only says 'BE',for God to create ten billion jesus without fathers He only says 'BE',that is the power of God!.jesus having no father is God showing us his signs!,in ur bible,gen 14;18,hebrew 7:1,talk about a man mechidezek without fatther,without mother,without beginning and end!,will u say this man is God becos he had no parent?of course ur anser is no!,this is God altering all laws for one man!God only alters the laws of universe so people can have more faith,moses dividing the sea,abraham getting unburnt in fire,mohammad splitting the moon into two,mohammad receiving the quran,jonah surviving the belly of the fish,jesus healing the leper,talking in childhood(found in the quran),raising the dead!these is God showing mankind his signs so they will have faith and believe in him

the fact that the bible did not give much details about mechidezek doesent mean he have no father or mother, ok, who is the wife of methusalah? Should we conclude, he has no wife ? NO, much details was not given.