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gatiano:
Adam had a Father and was born by a woman.
There must be a sperm to fertilize an ovum. That is the natural way of all life when it comes to living things. Jesus had a Father and He is a physical man.

maverickboy:
That it's only God that has no similitude, Jesus has.
Bro, I think u are beginning to add ur own words to Al quran. it never claimed the bolded, and if it does, pls supply us with the verse for clarification. But, I'm 100% sure it never does claim Jesus is sinless and other are not.
Innocent, not righteous I don't seem to get it. pls explain better.

lexiconkabir:
very boring

dekatrons:
Op...I congratulate ur inquisitiveness,well I can't say if ure asking to knw or asking to disqualify buh I will assume d earlier nd God willing we will learn for each oda
1st your topic is revolved around the fact"if mary can give birth without being laid why can't God do dsame
Here I will also put it to u dat if marry could die why can't God dsame,nd also I will like to let you knw dat everyhuman being needs a child to avoid extinction,as everyhuman will one day die so he ensures dat he leave behind sum1 dat will inherit him..can dis case b applied to God? Will God go extinct? If no why den will he need a child....nd finally if u say God needs a child u nullify d fact that He is FREE OF NEED...nd if u nullify Dat very important fact ure saying HE is vulnurable and imperfect

gatiano:
xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxax, Devil wicked gan. and devil smart with trick die. See as a grown man is thinking in fairy tale. porter flew with brown. I don't mean to make fun. It is just what it is. Devil na bastard, na die hin go die inside fire. As devils make my beloved brother, a direct descendant of God self think like this, devils and the jinns must burn.

plaetton:
Lol.
Another contradiction.
If sin is an innate weakness, then why are humans held responsible for God's faulty hardwork?

Why are people going to roast in hell for no design fault of theirs?

lexiconkabir:
his point is, Adam and jesus were both created by just the saying of Allah which is "kum! fayakun(Be! and it was)" jesus is never the BE!(word) it makes no sense that jesus is BE!

5solas:

This is more like it!
How does it square with this:

maverickboy:
(English - Shakir) Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 59:
إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ اللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ

Surely the likeness of Isa is with Allah as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, Be, and he was.
(English - Shakir)

maverickboy:
Are u sure about the bolded?

dalaman:
Every God lives inside the head of those that believe in that version of God. The Hindu Gods live inside the head of the Hindus, Allah lives inside the head of the muslims, Yahweh lives inside the heads of the Jews, the trinity God of the christians lives inside their heads and on and on.

lexiconkabir:
firstly isa/yehesua was never called christ in his lifetime, instead he was called messiah meaning saviour, i dont know how yehesua the messiah change to jesus christ! Yes we believe in all prophets sent by Allah, thats one of the article of faith in islam, jesus is just one of them and we believe in his message which is the same message Abraham, Moses, David the king, Muhammad, etc all preached, which is the oneness of Allah! jesus was sent to the isrealites, and he said "hear o isreal, the lord OUR God is ONE(EHAD IN ARAMAIC, JESUS LANGUAGE)....." moses was also sent to the isrealites and the first law given to moses was the same thing jesus echoed that OUR God is ONE, interestingly when muhammad was asked about his God by the disbelievers, he waited for Allah to teach him what to say,Allah revealed this to him "say! he is the only ONE(AHAD IN ARABIC) Allah(God)" EHAD and AHAD both means ONE!

winner01:
Leave these "wannabe atheists"...they are anti-theists, not only anti theist, but anti-christ even though some of them employ lame tactics in balancing their God-hate by mentioning other gods...Real atheists dont care about God or religion and in the course of an argument, they are objective, employ logical reasoning and are open minded....
These ones hate the christian God, its is seen all over their comments.
malvisguy212, Ishilove i suggest you leave them. The Bible has made Itself clear about fools.

ifeness:
No I am full of pity for you.

ifeness:
I bet you do not know what lies outside your brainwashed knowledge. You have been a yahweh boy all your life and clearly know nothing else.

You wanna know what I know? Example jesus is a lie. You are unknowingly validating stupidity and ignorance. Christianity is nothing but an organized religion.

What is that crap of praying to a dead god about?

ifeness:
Do you mind sharing evidence of the existence of this god? The bible gave no evidence whatsoever of a god,but instead the existence of several character claimed to be gods. To worsen the case,Satan happened to be the alter ego of the presumed bible god.

Mind you,the bible god appeared to be the origin of pain and suffering.

You seem to have short memory though. You claim your god doesn't intervene in humans suffering? What about the biblical Egyptian story? what about the false flood and killing is son for humanity( crap stories). You seem to be another deluded christian.

malvisguy212:
Our desperate need is not for clever arguments but for a powerful encounter with the living God (1 Corinthians 4:20).
And we need not more dramatic signs from heaven, but to act on what we already know. The door to spiritual understanding is not human explanation,but supernatural revelation it swings not on mind games but on a willingness to surrender our stubborn will to One who knows better than us (John 7:17; 2 Corinthians 3:14-16; 4:3-4; 1 Corinthians 2:4-16;.

Draw near to God and he will draw near to you, promises the Bible (James 4:. Until we respond to the light we already
have, God is unlikely to squander further enlightenment upon us. With
insincere excuses we might even fool ourselves, but not the One who knows everything. We don't decide how much
evidence we need: God does.Neither do we have the final say as to when God will lose patience with us.

johnydon22:
Holding on to anger is like holding on to a burning coal meaning to throw it at another, you are the one who gets burned. . .

Forgiveness is a human virtue, we give it not only because others deserve it but because we also need the peace and happiness that comes along bearing no grudge against others…

I for one still wonder the exact type of human someone like you would become without the concept of a God who has a punishment scheme, imagining what someone like you would be doing gets me afraid for humanity

johnydon22:
Because you had no idea the forgiveness the Op was talking about on the topic and your first post affirms that

ABDULADINO:
Lol, sounds rational and appeal's to man's ability to save himself by character but you left out the CONTEXT. Christ is the IDENTITY here. He is the Word of God and was with God from the beginning( John 1:2). He is the wisdom of God and the Power of God(1 cor 1:24)...So you see the wisdom hidden before the world began, that God destined for our glory was actually about the PERSON OF JESUS CHRIST AND HIM CRUCIFIED that Paul was preaching and not the other way round.

Except you want to admit that the identity of Jesus Christ as God never came in the flesh.

johnydon22:
Malvisguy you have a serious problem because you don't even understand things before commenting. . Go and read the Op and see what the Op is all about. . "It is about owning up responsibility for your actions not about who you forgive" please i beg you stop disgracing yourself by showing you have 0 comprehension ability

Ishilove:
Nope, you and he need deliverance, going by the statement you have made.

johnydon22:
Please people go and read GENESIS 3 or oh don't bother am sure all of you knows the story, so everyone can see lying for God tactics
[b]As usual the copy and paste work. . .

"Revelation 6:13 and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when
shaken by a strong wind"

One can only imagine what type of illiterate wrote this. . If it was John (even though modern scholarly consensus shows it's not in the slightest way John as the writer claimed, the John just like Jesus were Roman citizens of Isreali province and so knew only hebrew and perhaps aramaic and then miraculously started writing in Greek...lmao)

If it was John, for someone to write the above "stars falling like fig" shows that person has no knowledge what a star is, for a supposedly omni-deity to claim this as his/her words shows chronic ignorance of the things he/she allegedly created. .Could not even in the slightest lingual terms call out this celestial entities. . .

Again i advice: "Tell who ever wrote this or you claim inspired it or whoever's word it is to at least go to secondary school because they are drunk" [/b]


[b]You people never get tired of pouring out more sadistic characters of this supposed God, always trials and errors. The Noah fable was copied to say yahweh destroyed the earth and he totally failed cus he didn't eradicate evil like he thought, one can only imagine such simpleton-like thought from a supposed omni-deity.

Now more threats of destroying the world. You see religions has always looked forward to the end of the world.

you lots perhaps are half aware that your unsupported arguments are not entirely persuasive.
And the wealth and power many has accumulated through this means has made them uneasy. Religion has never ceased to predict the apocalypse which in turn has never ceased to fail.

Humans are the most stupid creatures, they destroy and disregard visible nature and worship and invisible God, do not know that this nature they destroy is in fact this God they worship.

Look around you, this world in no way has any need to fret over your myths, humans stand out as one of the most ferocious beings there are on this planet and the threat to this planet is not a God destroying it, zombies, aliens or Jesus charging down from heaven on a horse while we use jets now, or all the other fabricated myths our little head has imagined through out history.

Man is the only threat to this world because man is a threat both to himself and other life forms [/b]

simplex2:
Your God is busy planning on destroying the world: such a sadistic creature! Allah on his own is already using his followers to destroy the word; you religious folks are the greatest pain mother earth has ever experienced. Its always 'kill and destroy' while humanist are working hard to make it a better place, you are praying and waiting for God to destroy it.
Why can't you all just relocate to heaven/paradise and let us be?

dalaman:
Why do you love telling lies, according to the bible Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and bad, before then, they didn\t know what good and bad was. From there bible it says:

21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

Before then Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good or evil(Right and wrong). Quit telling lies, its there in black and white.





The bible used the word star not comets and asteroids, stop telling more lies for the bible. You have no shame.

5solas:
Please tell us the predestination the scriptures teach.

johnydon22:
You know it's not in my nature going in circles when am sure everyone here is very familiar with the fables and all can totally see the way you are twisting and throwing in unfounded lies to substantiate your own idea at the same time contradicting the fable from whence the absurdities where hewn...People can simply go read GENESIS 3

Yea science can not prove that stars are in fact too large to fall on earth...And the creator of the universe has no idea of this fact is as funny as it shows abject ignorance and this is the kind of things you would claim for such entity. . size comparison of our sun which is an average G-type star and a red giant star. . the sun is obviously even too small.. https://www.space.com/images/i/000/013/710/i01/sun-red-giant-comparison.jpg?1323277363

this is what we get when 21st century beings base their whole thinking to the naive ideas of primitive men of 2k years ago who didn't know what a galaxy is...You insult the very intellect of 21st century men.

Still lying to cover God's ass right? Lmao. . . The greek language have completely different words for the things you listed above. .

star - αστέρι (astéri)

meteor - μετέωρο (metéo̱ro)

asteroid - αστεροειδής (asteroeidí̱s)

comet - κομήτης (komí̱ti̱s)

And for the record the greek word for Star is not "Astayr" As a matter of fact the English words "meteor" and "asteroid" are of greek origin and not the other way round

For the simple fact that the supposed omni-deity cannot differentiate between these distinct celestial entities even in the slightest lingual representation shows it honestly needs a secondary diploma

plaetton:
My friend, go and reread the op.
It is not about me forgiving you.
I can only forgive you once.
The second time, I torpedo you.

But skydaddy forgives you every other day,.. Or so You Delude Yourselves.

That is my point. This delusion is a moral hazard.

simplex2:
Actually, your bible states that God made man in his own image (physical), after his Likeness (spiritual, psychological, reasoning, logic, intelligence etc)

So why is it wrong to try to apply logic and reasoning to this una God? Did he wrap his word in Godly mystery and send down to man who he knws doesn't understand the Godly words to read and digest?

johnydon22:
We have all read the story. . First we know Adam and Eve knew nothing, they did not even know they were naked and the bible was clear that they only found the difference between right from wrong after the act. . .The woman implied God said "don't" but she didn't give the impression God said it was wrong (how will she even comprehend that when she doesn't know what wrong is) . . Please the story is there for all to see...
And this in fact is a huge insult to the intellect of such entity if there is because the creator of the universe who thinks stars can fall to earth (Rev 6:13) shows it doesn't even know what a star is. . .portrays stack illiteracy. . I wonder how the creator of the universe didnt know stars were 1million times larger than the earth and still thinks stars will fall from heaven and cover 1/3 of earth. .

freecocoa:
This forgiveness nonsense seems to be what I find most ridiculous with these theists, I mean like, me a small sinner that only 'fornicates' will share the same hell with shekau, or better yet, should Shekau manage to accept jesus before his death, he'd own a mansion in paradise and me go occupy hell, I wonder how anyone can see sense in this.