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Christianity Etc › Re: (VIDEO) Holy Mary Mother Of Jesus Appeared In Kaduna by malvisguy212: 8:27pm On Sep 09, 2015

ProphetUdeme:
k. Go join them (the catholics) ni

I believe, we should serve God from our heart and leave doctrine matter, God knows those that are His own.

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Christianity Etc › Re: (VIDEO) Holy Mary Mother Of Jesus Appeared In Kaduna by malvisguy212: 8:08pm On Sep 09, 2015

ProphetUdeme:
have you also been deceived?

I live in kaduna, I can enter a bus 50 naira to where she appear, the first time Mary appear, people thought the girl was lying until Mary appear again for everyone to see. The video the op upload was the second time Mary appear.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Things Muslims Don't Want 'Infidels' Knowing About Islam by malvisguy212: 6:43pm On Sep 09, 2015

SirWere:
If you have eyes, you will have seen my conversation with other people. Peace!

you mention how the isrealite killed the ammorite, so I say provide the chapter let us analyse it, know the root caused of the problem.

Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Things Muslims Don't Want 'Infidels' Knowing About Islam by malvisguy212: 6:25pm On Sep 09, 2015

SirWere:
You are obviously a religious fanatic who use any method to destroy Islam. I am Christian but believe me, 90, in fact 95 percent of Christians dont have a fig of the faith Muslims have. I also disagree with some of the things you wrote. @Number 3, It is obvious that you didnt do any research because if you did, you would know that Islam and the old testament were written roughly at the same time, the David era where there was so so many wars being fought. An interesting diversions: Christianity also did things that would be considered as Terrorism in modern day. I cite Saul's example. He was told to "destroy the ammorites, kill every one including the women and children, and all livestock". I could go on but i think you get the gist. I have so many other things I can say but I have to use my time for more important things.
Conclusion- Let everyone serve their religion in peace

are you a christian ? provide the passage, let us analyst it. If you really understand the bible , you will know, who draw the first blood, the isrealite or the ammorite?

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Refugees Chant “allahu Akbar,” “f**k You,” Attack Citizens, Throw Feces by malvisguy212: 4:15pm On Sep 09, 2015

Demmzy15:
Lol.. See who says I'm confused! Everything you wrote is gibberish which doesn't correlate with the two verses. I know you won't give up, you just go to Google copy and paste without even reading. Anyway, anyone following knows that with the irrefutable points presented, Christians are allowed to lie as long as Christ is preach. So you're allowed to lie to preach!

Alright.

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Refugees Chant “allahu Akbar,” “f**k You,” Attack Citizens, Throw Feces by malvisguy212: 12:40pm On Sep 09, 2015

Demmzy15:
As usual you won't read, just blindly copy and paste. What as Galatians got to do with Romans, in fact the verses are totally different. Your writeup is also clumsy, improve please.

Mr. Man Paul lied and that's the end, remember he disguised himself just to preach, pagan, Jews, etc. He preached through false and true motives, his main aim was that Jesus should be preached. Read read read Malviguy!

The verse in Philippians, Paul compared the two preachers and explicitly stated that the [size=18pt]Important[/size] thing is Jesus is preached either through true or false. It's not as complex as you want it to be!

lolz, you are even confuse, Paul was not even talking about his righteousness or unrighteousness, he was talking about the motive of this false preacher, and when he say" Christ is proclaim and I rejoice in that" it mean , forget their motive , (let discuss it later) focus on their message.

To them that are without law, as without
law, (BEING NOT WITHOUT LAW TO GOD, BUT UNDER THE LAW TO CHRIST,) that I might gain them that are without law.”

Paul is a Jew, the Jews are under the mosaic law , how did Paul reach out to the Gentile ? He became a Gentile to reach the gospel to them.

And in Galatians 5:13 he says,
“For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; ONLY USE NOT LIBERTY FOR AN OCCASION TO THE FLESH, but by love serve one another.”

Paul’s liberty in his evangelism was not a freedom to serve the flesh in any way.
Paul was always strict in regard to sin
and he did not allow anything in his life
that would bring the result of sin by
spiritual carelessness. He would not
become a glutton to reach other overeaters, he would not become a drug
user to reach the addict, he would not
become a drinker of alcohol to reach a
drunk.

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Refugees Chant “allahu Akbar,” “f**k You,” Attack Citizens, Throw Feces by malvisguy212: 12:10pm On Sep 09, 2015

Demmzy15:
Your reply to lexicon is sh't, the Philippians 1:18 is too clear nothing ambiguous. He said as far you lie or say the truth, the important thing is Christ is preached. Final shot!

Of course yes! Are you?!

So you don't know punctuation/figures of speech and its uses again? Romans 3:7 is called a "Rhetorical Question".

Let's quote from verse 8-9 to see what it says.

" And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

[size=18pt]What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise:[/size] for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;" Romans 3:8-9

Can you see for yourself, verse 8 started something different entirely. Verse 9 asked a question and the answer was given with the reasons, something different totally from verse 7. Notice the emphasis!

No! Never! The end does not justify the means, I can't say because women and children are oppressed then I should go blow up myself all in the name of Jihad because suicide is prohibited. Everything you do must be in line with the commands of God!

God hasn't condemned anyone, we're all going to be judged on the Day of Judgement. So stop jumping into conclusion. We just have to pray for God's mercy!

Mr. Man if indeed you went to school, you'll know what a Rhetorical Question is. English is a compulsory subject you must pass before going into a University, but I guess you didn't pass that subject. Here's the definition of a Rhetorical Question:

rhetorical question Translate Button
noun
1.
a question asked solely to produce an effect or to make an assertion and not to elicit a reply, as “What is so rare as a day in June?”.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rhetorical+question

Hope you can see a Rhetorical Question doesn't require an answer and that's exactly what Paul did. He lied to make his god great, so why would his god judge him negatively if indeed his god was exalted by others due to his lies? Hope you grab?

I see, you still do not get it, let me make it easy for you:

Paul calls down a curse on bad preaching:
Galatians1:8
“But even if we or an angel
from heaven should preach to you a
gospel contrary to the one we preached
to you, let him be accursed”

Compear Galantians and the book of philipians, and then answer this question:

What’s the difference? celebration in
Philippians and cursing in Galatians? the answer to your question lies in the context.

The points is this,the passage in philipians was talking about two group of preachers, the first preach in bad motive and the others preach in truth, he was not reffering to the motive of the two group, but the message they proclaimed,that why he say:

"whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is PROCLAMED, and in that I rejoice"

But some of the proclaimers are sinning as they proclaim, trying to afflict Paul by
making him feel jealous that they are free while he is in prison. STILL ,Paul say "christ is proclaimed" through their bad motive.

Concerning Romans 3, I repeat, IT'S RHETORICALL question:
"What then? If some did not believe [If some were unfaithful], their unbelief [unfaithfulness] will not nullify the faithfulness of God, WILL IT?”

Let me ask you, will God deny Himself because His people did not believe in Him ? Your Allah can deny himself ( as you indicate in your post ) But my God will NOT, God remain faithful to the isrealite even when they sunk in idolatry.

Just in case you didn’t get his point, Paul
follows up the rhetorical question in 3:3
with the powerful words of 3:4a: “MAY IT NEVER BE ! Rather, let God be found
true, though EVERY MAN BE FOUND A LIAR .”

The good news of the gospel is our
“unfaithfulness” will not “nullify the
faithfulness of God.” Even though David
was an adulterer, a liar,and a murderer, God forgave him. If God can forgive
David, He can forgive anybody! Do you
need to be forgiven by God? Is there a
sin in your life that you don’t think God
could ever forgive you for? Please don’t
let the enemy lie to you. If God can
forgive David, He can forgive you and
me. He only asks that we humbly come
to Him, acknowledge our sin, and seek
the forgiveness that He has made
available in and through Christ.

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Refugees Chant “allahu Akbar,” “f**k You,” Attack Citizens, Throw Feces by malvisguy212: 6:48am On Sep 09, 2015

lexiconkabir:
was philipians1:18 also a rhetorical question?

have you ever heard the phrase "do what I say but don't do what I do ?" that's what the passage is saying. Let me quote from verse 15-18.

Philippians 1:15-18
Some indeed preach Christ from envy
and rivalry, but others from good will.
The latter do it out of love, knowing
that I am put here for the defense of
the gospel. The former proclaim
Christ out of rivalry, not sincerely but
thinking to afflict me in my
imprisonment. What then? Only that
in every way, whether in pretense or
in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in
that I rejoice

There are tow lessons here:
1. Value the TRUTH of the gospel rather than the holiness of the preacher.
2.sometimes God will override someone poor motive to advance His caused.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Refugees Chant “allahu Akbar,” “f**k You,” Attack Citizens, Throw Feces by malvisguy212: 6:38am On Sep 09, 2015

Demmzy15:
This would be fun! The verse is very clear and unambiguous, Paul said if God is exalted through his [size=18pt]lies[/size] why is he judge as a sinner? No need for all this bogus claims, he claimed he lied to exalt god shikena!

The second is too clear, he said even with [size=18pt]false[/size] or true the important thing is Christ is preached. Even an infant would understand this no need for writing epistles to defend this fallacy!

NO Bro. Are you not educated ? Do you not see question mark on all the verses ? And in verse 9 Paul answer himself with 'a' resounding NO "IN NO WISE" can your unrighteousness bring out the righteousness of Allah ? The answer is YES ( because without evil no one will notice good ) if so , why are you condemned ? That is the rhetorical question Paul ask and he answer himself in verse 9.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Not The Only Way by malvisguy212: 10:55pm On Sep 08, 2015

Humblebloke:
Yeah... I know

Atleast... You didn't threaten me with your imaginary hell fire.....

I wanna ask you this.....

. Are you sure all muslims, buhddist, hindus etc are going to hell fire because they do not share your believes

Image123:
And over 90% of atheists are atheist because they are born in Christian or atheist home? Keep rationalizing, maybe you might be of help at heaven's gate. Only God knows, yet the God who knows has clearly spoken. They're not looking for crowd in heaven sir.

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Refugees Chant “allahu Akbar,” “f**k You,” Attack Citizens, Throw Feces by malvisguy212: 10:52pm On Sep 08, 2015

Demmzy15:
Looks like you're fulfilling Paul's words!

"For if the truth of God hath more abounded by [size=18pt]my lie[/size] unto his glory, why yet am I also adjudged a sinner?" – St. Paul, Romans 3.7.

Philippians 1:15-18
15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill.
16 The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel.
17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains.
18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from [size=18pt]false motives[/size] or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.

Christianity is all about falsehood and lies a as they OP clearly portrayed!

the verse you quote is a rhetorical question Paul ask and he( Paul) went on an answer Himself.

If my lie can bring out the glory of God , why did you still called me a lier ? Go back and read the whole context, and tell me if Paul is speaking about his personal unrighteousness?

Is Paul trying to justify his unrighteousness by saying that it serves to show the righteousness of God? Here is the answer in verse 9:

9 What then? are we better than they?
No, in no wise: for we have before
proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

He says,"In no wise" rejecting the conclusion of the question he himself posed to the reader,and then goes on to imply that wrath will be inflicted upon the unrighteous. Obviously he is not
justifying unrighteousness on the basis that it serves to highlight God's righteousness.

Paul talk about his personal righteousness in verse 21:

Romans 3
21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are
justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith.

Therefore, Paul cannot be speaking of his own personal unrighteousness, or the presumed wrath that would follow such a state.

Christianity Etc › Re: (VIDEO) Holy Mary Mother Of Jesus Appeared In Kaduna by malvisguy212: 9:52pm On Sep 08, 2015

Appleyard:
Mary did not appear anywhere! So-called Mary is a demon decieving people with appearance here and there. We know her to be fake because Mary had no Biblical role to play in the scheme of things nor in event pertaining to the end time!

Just another enticing and seducing spirit decieving and operating an unsuspecting church.

So-called holy mary decieving people since Eons!

it true bro. Mary appear.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Not The Only Way by malvisguy212: 9:49pm On Sep 08, 2015

Humblebloke:

I wonder how sane human beings think believing that some righteous jewish man who lived 2000 years ago died for sins they are yet to commit.......

the Good thing is that NO one forced you to believe, its a choice, accept or reject.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Not The Only Way by malvisguy212: 9:47pm On Sep 08, 2015

frosbel2:
Anyone who thinks that Christianity is the only true religion and that the rest of humanity who practice other faiths are destined for destruction are simply deluded, confused and misled.

The truth is that anyone who lives by the golden rule has a chance at salvation.

In every faith we have devils and saints and this is evident from many articles and comments we read on Nairaland.

There is ONE way that GOD defined and designed for all MEN, it is not Christianity, it is the way of Christ, the way of truth, love and justice.

Do not be deceived , all the wicked irrespective of religion will be condemned and all the righteous irrespective of religion will be saved.

Unfortunately , we have many exclusive and elitist fanatical groups in Nigeria that make bogus and large claims for themselves. These groups breed bigots and intolerant people who go about causing confusion and mayhem.

Christianity is not the ONLY Way.

Jesus Christ and GOD are not Christians.

do you know the meaning of christian ? Do you know what it feel to be a christian? The christian life is like a man who have two dogs inside him, a white dog (good) and a black dog (evil). The one you are feeding the most is the one that is winning.

John 15:6
Jesus say, "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are
burned"

The one proper use of the vine is to bear fruit; failing this, it is good for one other thing--fuel. Jesus took many of
his principles directly from the Old Testament scripture:

Ezekiel 15:1-5, "And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of
man, What is the vine tree more than any tree, or than a branch which is
among the trees of the forest? Shall wood be taken thereof to do any work? or will men take a pin of it to hang any vessel thereon?Behold, it is cast into the
fire for fuel; the fire devoureth both the ends of it, and the midst of it is burned. Is it meet for any work? Behold, when it was whole, it was meet for no work: how much less shall it be meet yet for any work, when the fire hath devoured it, and it is burned?"

I believe this perfectly explained itself, without Jesus, we cannot be save.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Invented God In The Image Of Mankind??? by malvisguy212(op): 9:12pm On Sep 08, 2015

malvisguy212:
Just as I said in the other thread:

“The Bible must be the invention either of good men or angels, bad men
or devils, or of God. However, it was not
written by good men, because good men would not tell lies by saying ‘Thus saith the Lord;’ it was not written by bad men because they would not write about doing good duty,while condemning sin,and themselves to hell; thus, it must be written by divine inspiration”

Christianity Etc › Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by malvisguy212: 11:20am On Sep 06, 2015

lexiconkabir:
@parisbookaddict, i will recommend you stop copying and pasting foolishly, in order not to embarrass yourself. Q19:71 "there is not one of you but will pass over it(hell): this is with your lord; a decree which must be accomplished." the arabic wording used for the bolded is "illa waariduhakana a'la" meaning "but pass over it(hell)" not to enter it(hell) as your gurus you copied and pasted from claimed. now lets read verse 70 that comes before 71, Q19:70"Then, verily we know best those who are most worthy of being burnt therein" which implies in 70 Allah is telling we(muslims) the believers that he knows best those that should be burnt, and 71 tells us that we muslims are not one of them, but we shall pass over it(hell), then who are best known by Allah to be burnt in blazing fire? lets read Q19:72"......and we shall leave the polytheists(including trinitarians) to their knees(in hell)" which implies the people to be burnt are wrong doers and polytheist but believers shall pass over it! babe

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12,
Number 770:
....He will order the angels to take out of
Hell those who worshipped none but
Him alone.The angels will take them out
by recognizing them from the traces of
prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the
(Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So
they will come out of the Fire, it will eat
away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time they will come out of the Fire as mere skeletons. The Water of Life will be poured on them and as a result they will grow like the seeds growing on the bank of flowing water…”

First the hadith say"he will oder the
angel to rescue those who worship Allah
alone" what will people who worship
Allah be doing in Hell ?
Secondly the hadith say "Allah will forbid the fire to consume the mark of
prostration " is the polytheists
(trinitarians inclusive) now have the
prostration mark on there forehead ?
Thirdly the hadith say they will came out from the fire as 'mere skeletons' am sure you know God will not rescue sinners on hell, so it was the muslims who Allah is rescuing here.

Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0349:
“They (the angels) would recognise
them in the Fire by the marks of
prostration , for Hell-fire will devour
everything (limb) of the sons of
Adam except the marks of
prostration. Allah has forbidden the
fire to consume the marks of
prostration. They will be taken out
of the Fire having been burnt …”
If the first hadith is a weak one am sure
this one isn't.

Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Answer Prayers? by malvisguy212: 11:02am On Sep 06, 2015

Brown47:
If you think your gods answer prayers.why not have a second thought that why do thousands of people still go to Tb Jasua and co. For prayers.cant they pray for him to answer. Or is it that its only Tb Jasua who know or can pray to this your god.

James 5:14-15, "Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: AND THE PRAYER OF THE FAITH SHALL SaVE THE SICK ,"

God says the prayer of faith shall save the sick. Whose faith? Well, certainly the one who comes to pray for you must be someone of faith.

James 5:16, "Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth
much."

The words “effectual” and “ fervent” are actually only one word in Greek. It comes from Greek word #1754,energeo, from which we get the word “energy.” It's talking about the energized prayer. The energetic prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Common Mistakes Young Leaders Make by malvisguy212(op): 6:37am On Sep 06, 2015

malvisguy212:
Lalasticlala, pleased can you put this on
the homepage?

hellow

Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Common Mistakes Young Leaders Make by malvisguy212(op): 6:37am On Sep 06, 2015

malvisguy212:
Lalasticlala, pleased can you put this on
the homepage?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Difference Between Trials And Temptations by malvisguy212(op): 6:35am On Sep 06, 2015

Happy Sunday.

Christianity Etc › Re: One Question, Three Different Answers by malvisguy212(op): 6:32am On Sep 06, 2015

Happy Sunday.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why The Bad News Should Comes First Before The Good News. by malvisguy212(op): 6:29am On Sep 06, 2015

malvisguy212:
Cc Seun, Ishilove,Lalasticlala .

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Self Servicing A "SIN" For A Couple Whose Partner Is Hardly Around? by malvisguy212: 10:25pm On Sep 05, 2015

emusmith:
Hmm yea...So, how do they cope?

Jesus explained that the moral commandments were not to be followed merely to the letter of the law, but also to the intent of the law. So, it was not enough to abstain from adultery, but God required that one not even look on a woman with lust (Matthew 5:27-28).

Christianity Etc › Re: Why The Bad News Should Comes First Before The Good News. by malvisguy212(op): 10:18pm On Sep 05, 2015

Cc Seun, Ishilove,Lalasticlala .

Christianity Etc › Why The Bad News Should Comes First Before The Good News. by malvisguy212(op): 10:13pm On Sep 05, 2015

BAD NEWS.
Have you ever had someone tell you “I’ve got bad news and I’ve got good news for you. Which do you want to hear first?” I usually like to hear the bad news first so that it gets better after that. The way the Bible is written, the bad news is usually presented first and only then comes the good news because the good news is meaningless until you first learn about the bad news and only then is the good news really good. So what is the bad news? The bad news is that our sins have separated us from a holy God (Isaiah 59:2) and that even our best efforts at good works are seen as filthy rags to God (Isaiah 64:6). The fact is, most people think that they’re a good person but Romans 3:10-12 says that

we’re “all under sin” and “None is righteous, no, not one. No one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.”

Every single one of us falls far short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23) and the only thing we’ve earned are the wages of sin and that means death (Rom 6:23). Before we trusted in Christ “All of us used to live that way, following the passionate desires and inclinations of our sinful nature. By our very nature we were subject to God’s wrath, just like everyone else” (Eph 2:3). That’s the bad news. Now, isn’t it time for some good news after all that?
THE GOOD NEWS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT:
In the days of ancient Israel, they had
runners who brought bad news and good news and they could usually tell whether the runner had bad news or good by the way they were running (2nd Sam 18:27) and indeed, “good news refreshes the bones” (Prov 15:30b). God spoke through Isaiah the prophet and said
Isaiah 40:9
“Go on up to a high mountain, O Zion, herald of good news; lift up your voice with strength, O Jerusalem, herald of good news; lift it up,fear not; say to the cities of Judah,“Behold your God”

God Himself declares again through Isaiah:
Isaiah 52:7
“How beautiful upon the mountains are
the feet of him who brings good news,
who publishes peace, who brings good
news of happiness, who publishes
salvation, who says to Zion, “Your God
reigns”

The good news then is good news now; God brings salvation and to Him we owe our gratitude and praise. As a taste and a forerunner of the Messiah to come, Isaiah wrote something that Jesus would declare almost 800 years later,

Isaiah 61:1“The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me, because the Lord has anointed me to bring good news to the poor; he has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are bound”

THE GOOD NEWS OF JESUS CHRIST
When an angel came to the shepherds in the field one night, “the angel said to
them,
Luke 2:10
“Fear not, for behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people”.

This was the “good news” prophesied to come by Isaiah. Jesus sat down in the synagogue once and fulfilled what is written in Isaiah 61:1 when He said
Luke 4:18-19
“The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me, because the Lord has anointed me to bring good news to the poor; he has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor”

and then:

Luke 4:20-21
“he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were fixed on him. And he began to say to them, “Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing”

Luke 8:1
It was “Soon afterward he went on through cities and villages, proclaiming and bringing THE GOOD NEWS OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD. And the twelve were with him”.

With the long awaited Messiah, Jesus
Christ, this Scripture was fulfilled, but
now what?
THE GOOD NEWS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT:
Up until Jesus arrived and John the
Baptist’s ministry ended, Jesus said,

Luke 16:16
“The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone forces his way into it”

but now, with Jesus’ arrival, the good news was to be taken to all the world (Matt 28:19-20; Acts 1: cool

. The gospel or the good news, for they are one and the same, was spreading, for example, “when they believed Philip as he preached good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women” (Acts 8:12). The word “gospel” is the translation of the Greek word “evangelion” (ev or eu meaning “good” and angelion meaning “message”) so the good news is the gospel and the gospel is the good news. It is a good message for bad people who can be forgiven by a good God.
CONCLUSION
The good news or the gospel is not
received well if a person doesn’t hear the bad news first and that is that they have the wrath of God on them if they
disbelieve in Jesus (John 3:3b). The bad
news makes the good news (the gospel)
all the greater to hear. This is the gospel, just as Isaiah and Jesus said, “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me, because the Lord has anointed me to bring good news to the poor; he has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor” (Luke 4:18-19).

Christianity Etc › Re: What Pastors Ought To Do With Tithe Money by malvisguy212: 7:25pm On Sep 05, 2015

plaetton:
Let me use this opportunity to tell a story.
A few years ago, I was to be the bestman in my firend's wedding. During the course of the rehearsals at his small anglical church,I met the priest, a simple middle-aged man. Although I am not religious, I found him to be simple, open-minded and accomodating even after I made my aversion to religion know to him. I was so intrigued that I decided to attend one of their sunday services.
After the service, the pastor was giving a monthly financial report to his flock. He revealed that for the previous month, after all their expenses(including the pastor's allowance or salary) that they had a surplus of abt $4000.
The pastor now asked for suggestions from his flock as to the best way to spend the surplus money. After hearing few suggestions, One of the church members mentioned that she had seen , on the internet, a picture of a very old dilapidated and run down primary school in Timbuktu, Mali . She suggested that that money be used to renovate and rebuild that school. Everyone agree and immediately a committee was formed to contact the school and see what and how they could go about the assistance. I was so thrilled, that I volunteered to be involved even though I was not a member of their church.
A few weeks later, it disclosed that abt $8000 was needed to to rebuild the school, so the church asked members to contribute in order to raise the additional sum.

Six months later, the school was rebuilt along with new desks for the pupils and i felt proud to be a small part of that great act of charity.
Although I did not continue to attend the church, that example would have been the best greatest motivation to follow the Christian path.

Mr pleatton. You did Good my friend.

Christianity Etc › Re: Gays Throw Excrement At Xtians And Wipe Their Anuses With Pages Of The Bible by malvisguy212: 11:39am On Sep 05, 2015

johnydon22:
This is totally wrong, they are carrying "say NO to homophobia" placards at the same time according the people exactly the same treatment you protest against.

Fighting to achieve peace is like having sex to ensure virginity. .

These guys are totally nutters and this act is blatantly wrong to any sane human

hypocrite. According to atheists morality , they are right , why will a christian condemned what is right for some people ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Someone Should Explain This : by malvisguy212: 9:37am On Sep 05, 2015

Jozzy4:
The given birth to in proverb 8:24 didnt happen when Mary gave birth to Jesus . The Oceans are formed then .

So explain how Jesus was given birth to with labour pains before the springs are formed ? Proverb 8:24

Your view of Chiyl is attached to the 'birth pains' as it fits your view of Jesus being created here in Proverbs 8. I have no problem with the 'birth pain' but has it occurred to you that what you are indicating here is that " God gave birth to Jesus in PAIN?" have you ask your self , were chiyl is used else were in the bible ?

Micah 1:12
12 For the inhabitant of a]
">Maroth BECOMES WEAK waiting for
good, Because a calamity has come
down from the LORD To the gate of Jerusalem.

Yes, you see what you are doing here ? Comparing the nature of God and human, would you say God is weak too because chiyl is used in proverb 8 ? NO, so you should focus on proverb 8:22 which say “Producer.” LXXVg, “who
created”; but in vs 22 Vg reads, “POSSESSOR.”

Wisdom was NOT created, Jesus began to exist here on earth, when was this ? In the beginning (John 1:1) when He MADE his dwellings on flesh. Colossians 1.Jesus is the wisdom of God personified
As a matter of fact, wisdom has no beginning.

So my friend, chiyl is not only used for birth , sometimes it was used for "THOUGHT" and "EVENT". Proverb 8 , chily was used for thought.

Christianity Etc › Re: Someone Should Explain This : by malvisguy212: 7:17am On Sep 05, 2015

Jozzy4:
MARY ! , so mary gave birth to Jesus before the oceans came into existence ? Proverb 8:24

compear proverb 8:24 with Genesis 1:2, it say:
Now the earth was formless and empty,
darkness was over the surface of the
deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

The earth was formless and empty ,why ? Because the earth was NOT frame yet by the WORD (Jesus) , how the earth BEGAN to exist ? The answer is in Hebrew 11:3

" By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible."

The word was God,that was made flesh (john1:1) . Proverb 8:24 talk about Jesus pre-existence, men only BEGAN to see Him when He was given birth to. NO one has ever see Jesus in His true NATURE.
When I say given birth to I mean , when the father speak the word at his command.

Christianity Etc › Re: Invented God In The Image Of Mankind??? by malvisguy212(op): 11:03pm On Sep 04, 2015

johnydon22:

And so says a man who heard the concept of a satan and a God from a book written by men and clutching on it by FAITH as taught by men and asserted by men... Go on, tell me more!

alright, be still.

Christianity Etc › Re: Invented God In The Image Of Mankind??? by malvisguy212(op): 11:02pm On Sep 04, 2015

johnydon22:
Ok keep telling me more. . The bible must be true because the bible said so, the bible is the breathed word of God because the bible said so..

You keep betraying your own premise in this thread... For the simple fact that such mundane book as the bible which evidently enough is not only written by Men but primitive ones for that matter is your basis for asserting the non-man made nature of your God concept is self refuting..

Because you who is a man is using a man written book compiled by man to tell another man that your God is not man made …

answer this question:
Why will men invent a 'God' that set an uphill task on them on how to attain Holiness? Read other religion way of salvation, others religion say salvation is by human effort meaning I just need to do Good and ignore God grace, BUT in Christianity, it say" our holiness is as filty in God eyes" meaning we need to DO MORE. Does it look like invented God ?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Invented God In The Image Of Mankind??? by malvisguy212(op): 10:56pm On Sep 04, 2015

johnydon22:
Good to know you find logic in it even though it is nonsense.

Man wrote a book, the same man also wrote in the book man wrote that it was breathed by God.

You see my good sir, that you and i are even having this discussion continues to murder your own thesis and proves right the assertion you are trying so hard to prove wrong..

That you a man is the one trying to tell me that your God is not man made is already a proof against you because frankly if your God is not man made as you claim, he wouldn't need you (who is a man) to tell anybody…

neither will he need man to write in a book that the book is God breathed

I create this thread , not that I am not convinced in my belief in God, I was only trying as much as I can to guide people who satan want to used you and your cohorts to deceive the innocent. This is the last days, and just as the bible say, in the last days, men will fall , and many of the believers will depart the faith.

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