Malvisguy212's Posts

Nairaland Forum › Malvisguy212's Profile › Malvisguy212's Posts

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ... 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 (of 366 pages)

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by malvisguy212: 9:10am On Aug 18, 2015

truthman2013:
Good that you are no longer denying his prophethood. Now, the question is: Was he a Jewish Prophet? or perhaps a descendant of Isaac?

Yes, you did.

You just contradicted yourself. You asked up there that miracle is not by human effort, only for you to come here and ask me whether he performed any miracle. He didnt performe any miracle, rather God performed miracle through him.

The Quran itself is the greatest of all miracle.

truthman..

what are you saying here ? Read all my post again, I say balaam is a gentile, what does that imply ? As a matter of fact, the bible does not even categorised him among a prophet, he was a soothsayer , another meaning of a soothsayer is prophet. a Jewish prophet/soothsayer.

in my first post, I say miracle required faith and believe, what does that imply ? Faith is believing in God. The quran is the greatest miracle ? What about the bible? The torah the book given to Moses, its is only the muslims claimed the quran is the greatest miracle, how did muhammed received this book ? By a medium of satan .

Did muhammed here directly from Allah ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by malvisguy212: 8:04am On Aug 18, 2015

truthman2013:
Again, you are shying away from my question. Was he a prophet of Yahweh at some point or not? Didn't ywhw see him to be a lukeworm before allowing his spirit descended on him?

Of course not. You are the one implying that miracle is by human effort. If you weren't implying that, you wouldnt have ask me whether the Prophet (Pbuh) performed miracle or not. Moses, Jesus never performed any miracle rather it was God that perfomed miracle through them, do you agree with me?

Of course yes, but did that stop the disbelievers from disbelieving in the message of God? Moses, despite performing a lot of miracle before bringing out the Israelite from Egypt, didn't the Israelite went ahead to worship idols immediately after witnesing his miracle? Jesus upon all his miracle, was he able to convince the Jews that he is the annointed one?
My point is: Miracle is not the pre-requisite in determining a Prophet. Therefore, you have no point.

Yes.
A woman in Ekiti was barren for 27years finally gave birth http://www.nigeriafilms.com/news/29771/73/unbelievable-barren-woman-of-27-years-delivers-bab.html Isn't this also a miracle from God? Was it her husband that performed it? Does that make him a prophet?

Can you (malvisguy) performe any miracle with your faith and believe at all? Can you sayto the mountain to throw itself in the sea as Jesus said you would do in the bible?

So in essence, that's the miracle you are trying to say Abraham performed?

…truthman.

did my post deny ,balaam is not a prophet ? Are you not a student? Did you not know the meaning of consistent ? Balaam is not consistent in his worship to God, at some points he seduce isreal to worship idols.The New Testament mentions
Balaam three times, all negatively.
Both Peter and Jude describe him as
the personification of greed in using
religion for personal gain (II Peter
2:15; Jude 11). Revelation 2:14 credits him with "the doctrine of Balaam," which is inducing others to sin, specifically to idolatry and sexual
immorality.

The bible constantly called him a soothsayer:
Joshua 13:22 Balaam also the son of Beor, the soothsayer, did the children of Israel slay with the sword among them that were slain by them.

and the verse went on to say the children of isreal slaw him together with God enemy.

Did I say miracle is by human effort ? Did muhammed performed a single miracle ? Or even here directly from Allah? Provide a quranic verse.

Christianity Etc › Re: . by malvisguy212: 11:45pm On Aug 17, 2015

Aareonakakanfo:
See me see trouble oo. so because i cannot interprete it makes it wrong?. the qur'an is flawless and its not open to scrutiny. no apologies Sir.malvis guy can say whatever he likes about it but who cares. you're not a muslim so your opinion doesn't count. you that don't believe it can you interprete it?

it is not wrong even if you cannot interprete it? Good for you (blind faith) good night.

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by malvisguy212: 11:42pm On Aug 17, 2015

truthman2013:
That he was killed among the Midianites is not the bone of contention here. The point is: He was a Prophet of YHWH at some point, Yes or No?

Did Abraham performed the miracle himself?

God prophet must not be a 'lukewarm' its is either you are for God or against God.

So to you, performing miracle is by the effort of human ? All prophet performed miracle by the help of God, as a matter of fact , the bible say Sarah was barren until she bore Isaac. The truth is " miracle required faith and believe, Sarah believe but at some points she tarry but Abraham keep on believing until God here him"

Christianity Etc › Re: . by malvisguy212: 11:28pm On Aug 17, 2015

Aareonakakanfo:
I can't because i'm not a mufassir nor am i a student of knowledge. i can only interprete what i know. you haven't even heard any of those names and yet you want to interprete quranic verses. very funny . that's like me interpreting the torah based on a few pages i've read. i see you all all time on nairaland yarnin dust about quranic verses but i'm guaranteed you've not even seen tira before talkless of imam as-shinqitee's books. Read adwaaul bayaan first before you interprete the quran

so you cannot interprete it but you just believe in it anyway?

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by malvisguy212: 11:18pm On Aug 17, 2015

tintingz:
Lol keep on rebuking.

There are many verses that talk about the coming of Muhammed(AS) in the bible.

Song of Solomon even mention Muhammed by name.

lier ,provide the verse let us analysed it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by malvisguy212: 11:17pm On Aug 17, 2015

truthman2013:
Num 24:2 When Balaam looked out and saw Israel encamped tribe by tribe, the Spirit of God came upon him.

Gen 20:7 Now return the man's wife, for he is a prophet, and he will pray for you and you will live. But if you do not return her, you may be sure that you and all yours will die."

I think your own christian is from Mars because your fellow christian will never make the underlined statement.

..truthman.

yes, spirit of the Lord came upon him , infacte the Lord send an angel to prevent the donkey from taking to unwanted place.balaam is not CONSISTENT with his worship to God. You should continue reading the bible, chapter 31 say he was kill together with the Midianites by the isrealite.

Okay, Abraham was a prophet but given birth to Isaac at good old age was a miracle.

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by malvisguy212: 11:03pm On Aug 17, 2015

This verse proved muhammed is a false prophet :
Surah 29:27: And (as for Abraham),
We bestowed upon him Isaac and
(Isaac’s son) Jacob, and caused
prophethood and revelation to
continue among his offspring.

ALL prophet are to come from the descended of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, muhammed is an arab, he cannot be from the descended of the above name mention.

Christianity Etc › Re: . by malvisguy212: 10:57pm On Aug 17, 2015

Aareonakakanfo:
And when did you become at-tabari or as-shinqitee to start trying to interpret quranic verses with your weak knowledge. leave that to the scholars. Interpreting quranic verses is not for the layman. you don't interprete it literally

did anyone ban you not to interpret it ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by malvisguy212: 10:53pm On Aug 17, 2015

tintingz:
Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jesus to name the few prophesied the coming of Muhammed.

Mister, was Abraham a Jew?

Jesus(AS) himself said the prophethood will be taking away from the Jews and given to another nation which is the Arab. Arabs and Jews are Semitic.

Can you tell me why Jesus was cursing the Jews?

The Quran is greatest of the miracles.

And there are more miracles aside from the splitting of the moon.

And note miracles are signs, when people seek for signs from the Prophets they either use the nature, words, animals or humans, this makes people believe they are sent from God to mankind to save them from going astray.

Or can you tell me the benefit of speaking in tongues?

Jesus a sinless man prophesied the coming of a sinner ? I rebuke you satan. There is NOT a single mention of muhammed in the bible, not even the word 'islam' was mention in the bible which strongly indicate muhammed introduced a false religion called islam.

1 Like

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by malvisguy212: 10:48pm On Aug 17, 2015

truthman2013:
Balaam was a non -Israelite prophet.

What miracle did father Abraham performe?

..truthman.

balaam was a gentile, some Jews believe he is not genuine , if you read the bible, balaam is not consistent in his worship to God, at some points he made prophecy just for his purpose. Number24:1 indicate he was a sorcerer. And then in number 31:9 say he was killed along with the Midianites
by the Israelites .

Christian do not recognised Abraham as a prophet, anyway, Abraham was 100years old when Isaac was born infacte Sarah was 75 when Isaac was born, this is miracle.

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by malvisguy212: 10:12pm On Aug 17, 2015

tintingz:
Even till date the Jews still see Jesus and Mary(AS) as fraudsters, deceivers.

and also the Jews did not even know who muhammed is.

They only knew him as "self proclaim prophet"

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by malvisguy212: 10:10pm On Aug 17, 2015

tintingz:
There are many prophesies on Prophet Muhammed[SA] coming as the last prophet of God right from the Moses[AS] era to Jesus[AS] era.

When God sent a prophet they are destined to be known by the people and to the world.

And if you are asking if Muhammed[SA] performed any miracles/signs, kindly go and read the life time of Prophet Muhammad[SA]

who prophesied the coming of muhammed ?God did not recognised the arab as people he will raised a prophet from their tribe, ALL the prophet mention are Jews with the exception of muhammed, why ? The quran indicate for every nation were given each prophet , why will the Jews produce soo many prophet? Even the quran indicate ALL prophet were to come from the descended of Abraham and to Isaac and Jacob, who are all Jews.

What kind of miracle muhammed performed ? Splitting of the moon ?or miracle of the quran? ( sent down transmission) how is splitting of the moon a benefit to mankind? All the prophet that were given a book , David and Moses, none of them claimed it as a 'miracle' only muhammed.

Christianity Etc › Re: . by malvisguy212: 8:50pm On Aug 17, 2015

[quote author=Demmzy15 post=37061091][/quote]nonsense.

Christianity Etc › Re: . by malvisguy212: 8:47pm On Aug 17, 2015

Now we will consider another serious
problem in Islam.

Surah 2:125: “And when WE MADE
the House (at Mecca) a resort for
mankind and sanctuary, (saying):
Take as your place of worship the
place where Abraham stood (to pray).
And We imposed a duty upon
Abraham and Ishmael, (saying):
Purify My house for those who go
around and those who meditate
therein and those who bow down and
prostrate themselves (in worship)
.” (Pickthall)

According to Islam, Allah is said to have
built the Ka’ba centuries before the time
of Judaism and Christianity. It was
supposedly restructured later by
Abraham and Ishmael. The Ka’ba also
known as “Baitullah” means “House of
Allah.” Now, how did the “House of
Allah” which was “made by Allah”
become a pagan temple housing 360
pagan idols? How can a House of God
become a pagan Temple of Idols? Why
did Allah allow this to occur to his place
of worship? If the Ka’ba was the original
“House of Allah” as the Qur’an asserts,
then there is absolutely no logical or
theological reason as to why Muhammad directed the first Qiblah towards Jerusalem – unless he believed that it was holier than the Ka’ba.

Muhammad destroyed the rest of the
idols at the conquest of Mecca but left
the preeminent idol of the Ka’ba – the
Black Stone – untouched. Why? It was
simply due to deep-rooted subconsciousness brought on by years of submission to stone worship. He not only had to leave the Black Stone unharmed to represent Islam but he also kissed it to show his affection for the pagan stone.

The Black Stone that was sacred to the
pagans became sacred to the Muslims
and is now revered by them. The kiss
that the pious Muslim pilgrims bestow on the Black Stone is a survival of the old pagan practice, which was a form of
stone worship in Arabia. While Christians can clearly see this as absolute idolatry,

Islam is blind to this abomination.
Even the Egyptian writer, Muhammad
Husayn Haykal, who relies heavily on
the works of Ibn Hisham, admitted in his book, The Life of Muhammad (p. 30):

In fact, the Arabs venerated these
stones so much that not only did
they worship the black stone in the
Ka’bah, but also they would take
one of the stones of the Ka’bah as a
holy object in their travels, praying
to it and asking it to bless every
move they made.

Muhammad began and ended up with a pagan religion with the only difference being that he repackaged it in a monotheistic framework. The fact that many of the rituals performed in the name of Allah are connected to pagan worship shows that Islam was conceived in idolatry. Such practices are consistent with pre-Islamic pagan rituals involving the Ka’ba. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob would never send a Black Stone for his followers to kiss. If God abhors even the bowing of his worshippers towards the living sun that was created by him, do you think he will command his worshippers to bow towards a dead Black Stone?
Deuteronomy 4:19 clearly states:

“You must not raise your eyes to the
heavens and indeed see the SUN and
the MOON and the STARS, all the army
of the heavens, and actually GET
SEDUCED AND BOW DOWN TO THEM.”

Christianity Etc › Re: . by malvisguy212: 8:40pm On Aug 17, 2015

Any hadith that do not translate in favour of islam is fabricated.

During the early stages of his prophetic
career in Mecca, Muhammad and his
followers prayed towards Jerusalem.
Even after their migration (hijra) to
Medina, Muslims continued with this
practice for about sixteen to seventeen
months. its is only when Muhammad desired to pray towards the Ka’ba in Mecca that Allah, as usual, obliged and revealed the following Qur’anic verse:

Surah (Al-Baqarah) 2:144: “We see
the turning of thy face for guidance to
the heavens: now shall We turn thee
to a Qibla that shall PLEASED THEE .
Turn then Thy face in the direction
of the sacred Mosque : Wherever ye
are, turn your faces in that
direction.” (Yusuf Ali)

And the hadith supported this:

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8,
Number 392:
Narrated Bara’ bin ‘Azib: Allah’s
Apostle prayed facing Baitul-
Maqdis for sixteen or seventeen
months but he loved to face the
Ka’ba (at Mecca) so Allah revealed:
“Verily, We have seen the turning of
your face to the heaven!” ( Surah 2 Al-
Baqarah 144) So the Prophet faced
the Ka’ba and the fools amongst the
people namely “the Jews” said,
“What has turned them from their
Qibla (Bait-ul-Maqdis) which they
formerly observed” (Allah revealed):
“Say: ‘To Allah belongs the East and
the West. He guides whom he will to a
straight path’.” ( Surah 2 Al-Baqarah
142).

Why did Muhammad express a desire to pray facing the Ka’ba while it remained a pagan shrine? At the time when Surah 2:144 was revealed to change the Qiblah from Jerusalem to Mecca,the Ka’ba was still a pagan shrine housing 360 pagan idols. Why would Allah permit his Prophet to bow towards the Ka’ba while it was still polluted with 360 pagan idols? The command given in the Qur’an to change the Qiblah predates by years the conquest of Mecca. Those idols were destroyed only after the conquest of Mecca. Thus, during all those intervening years, between the time the Qiblah was changed towards the Ka’ba and the
conquest of Mecca, whenever Muhammad faced the Ka’ba to pray, the
Ka’ba remained a shrine of idol worship.

This is not an insignificant matter in
terms of worship. Why was Muhammad
not commanded to wait until the removal of those idols? Why did Allah submit to Muhammad’s desire and as a result make it a requirement for the early Muslims to bow towards the direction of the pagan idols?

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness! After Admitting This, Why Do You Still Claim Jesus Isn't God? by malvisguy212: 2:42pm On Aug 17, 2015

lexiconkabir:
that site is making me understand that the laws are still intact right? if i didnt comprehend with the information on that site please let me know.

the scribes duties are to copies and NOT interpreter. The context was talking about false teacher and prophet, this concept was made known through out the scripture. To understand this verse you will have to read verse 8 and 9 together:

“‘How can you say, “We are wise, for
we have the law of the Lord,” when
actually the lying pen of the scribes
has handled it falsely? 9 The wise will
be put to shame; they will be
dismayed and trapped. SINCE THEY
HAVE REJECTED THE WORD OF THE LORD ,
WHAT KIND OF WISDOM DO THE HAVE?

The " THEY" where the one saying "we are wise" and they are the one who reject the word of God. Notice these same people are being said to have rejected the word of the Lord.

This is very common throughout the OT those who are claiming to speak for God
but are not. Malachi calls them out,
Amos calls them out, and Jeremiah calls
them out. It was a recurring theme.
Note that scribes are not just writers of
the law - they are teachers too. Especially at this time, there was a hefty oral tradition of interpretation that had
added much to the Torah.

In the New Testament, Jesus makes the
same charge (Matthew 23):

13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law
and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You
shut the door of the kingdom of
heaven in people’s faces. You
yourselves do not enter, nor will you
let those enter who are trying to. [14]
[b]15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law
and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You
travel over land and sea to win a
single convert, and when you have
succeeded, you make them twice as
much a child of hell as you are.
16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You
say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple,
it means nothing; but anyone who
swears by the gold of the temple is
bound by that oath.’ 17 You blind
fools! Which is greater: the gold, or
the temple that makes the gold
sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone
swears by the altar, it means nothing;
but anyone who swears by the gift on
the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19
You blind men! Which is greater: the
gift, or the altar that makes the gift
sacred? 20 Therefore, anyone who
swears by the altar swears by it and
by everything on it. 21 And anyone
who swears by the temple swears by
it and by the one who dwells in it. 22
And anyone who swears by heaven
swears by God’s throne and by the
one who sits on it.
23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law
and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You
give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill
and cumin. But you have neglected
the more important matters of the
law—justice, mercy and
faithfulness. You should have
practiced the latter, without
neglecting the former. 24 You blind
guides! You strain out a gnat but
swallow a camel.

Note: Some translations will even say
"scribes and Pharisees" rather than
"teachers of the Law and Pharisees." The King James, for example, says:
13 But woe unto you, scribes and
Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up
the kingdom of heaven against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them that are
entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and
Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour
widows' houses, and for a pretence
make long prayer: therefore ye shall
receive the greater damnation.
A scribe was also a teacher of the law.
More modern translations clarify that
aspect of the culture we no longer have.
It isn't the pen, it is the oral additions.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness! After Admitting This, Why Do You Still Claim Jesus Isn't God? by malvisguy212: 10:24am On Aug 17, 2015

lexiconkabir:
because you couldnt refute jeremiah 8:8 you tried to divert my attention. LOL.

http://christianityresponse..nl/2009/12/refuting-muslim-misuse-of-jeremiah-8-8.html?m=1

Christianity Etc › Re: Without The Shedding Of Blood, There Is NO Forgiveness. by malvisguy212: 9:44am On Aug 17, 2015

OgundeleT:
he knew that adam and eve are going to eat the fruit which will make humanity to suffer and he still create it? If an engineer did dis to u what will u do

the bible say God created All things for himself,including us ,and All this was to glorified Him:
Romans 11:36
36 For from him and through him and
to him are all things. To him be glory
forever. Amen.
And the bible also say "we are created in His pleasure" so it may be hard to see how falling into sin bring the glory of God.

The purpose of God creating us is to love him or reject him, Since everything else God planted in the garden was GOOD,the NATURAL choice of something to choose from would be knowledge of evil. God had to give Adam and Eve a choice. Without free will to choose, Adam and Eve would have been mere puppets. True love always requires choice.

we are led to the following conclusions:

1. The fall of mankind was foreknown by
God.
2. The crucifixion of Christ, the
atonement for God’s elect, was foreordained by God.
3. All people will one day glorify God
( Psalm 86:9), and God purposes “to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ”( Ephesians 1:10).
God’s purpose was to create a world in
which His glory could be manifest in all
its fullness. The glory of God is the
overarching goal of creation. In fact, it is
the overarching goal of everything He
does. The universe was created to
display God’s glory ( Psalm 19:1), and the wrath of God is revealed against those who fail to glorify God ( Romans 1:23). The world that best displays the glory of God is the world we have a world that was allowed to fall, a world that was redeemed, a world that will be restored to its original perfection.

God’s wrath and God’s mercy display the
riches of His glory, but we cannot see
either without the fall of mankind.

1 Like

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness! After Admitting This, Why Do You Still Claim Jesus Isn't God? by malvisguy212: 9:13am On Aug 17, 2015

lexiconkabir:
[center]malvisguy212, just as rilwayne said, you are not of sound mind, and since i have had encounter with you in the past, i think i agree with him, if i refute your claim you may come up with another rubbish and that will a waste of my time, so i leave you to your confused and deluded mind. [/center]

nonsense!! You have nothing to say. Just stay mute.

Christianity Etc › Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by malvisguy212: 9:08am On Aug 17, 2015

There is a similarities between Hindu and islam.
(1) Both Hindu and Muslim male
devotees are required to shave their
heads during their pilgrimage.
(2) And similar to their Hindu
counterparts, male Muslim pilgrims are
also required to dress in a garment
consisting of two sheets of white cloth.
This type of garment is known as Dhoti in Hinduism.
(3) Just as the worshippers of Shiva
observe a rite in which they walk around their object of reverence seven times, Muslim pilgrims also walk around the Ka’ba seven times.
(4) Both their objects of reverence are
Black Stones. In Hinduism, the Black
Stone is known as Shiva lingam.
(5) While Hindus drink water from the
Ganga River as part of the sacred rites in their worship of Shiva, Muslims drink
from the Well of Zamzam during the
Hajj.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness! After Admitting This, Why Do You Still Claim Jesus Isn't God? by malvisguy212: 9:00am On Aug 17, 2015

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Jehovah is God and “is the name of the true God only” According to their doctrine, Jehovah, not Christ, is God
Almighty. Yet, man HAS SEEN Jehovah.

Genesis chapter 18 records an occasion
when “Jehovah appeared” to Abraham
near Mamre (vs. 1). Jehovah spoke
directly to Abraham (vs. 13), and the
faithful servant of God “stood before the
Lord” (vs. 22). The final verse of Genesis
18 states: “And Jehovah went his way, as
soon as he had left off communing with
Abraham. And Abraham returned unto
his place” (vs. 33). If Jehovah’s Witnesses
were consistent with their argument,
Jehovah could not be Almighty God
because man has seen Jehovah. If John
1:18 somehow disqualifies Jesus from
being God, it must also prohibit
“Jehovah” from being God, because they
both were seen. What Bible students
must understand is that man has only
seen MANIFESTATIONS of God (i.e, in
human flesh, or in the midst of a burning bush, Exodus 3:2, etc.); he has never seen God (the Father or the Son) in His true spirit image.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness! After Admitting This, Why Do You Still Claim Jesus Isn't God? by malvisguy212: 8:50am On Aug 17, 2015

Jozzy4:
Brother malvisguy212 , since you hav confess Jesus is not the true nature of God , tell us : Who is God ?

your mind is dark and corrupt, is this what you learn from my post ? Has anyone ever seen the nature of God ? What men saw is the embodiment of God, the bible clearly say Jesus exist as a spirit before Abraham was , which NO man saw, men only began to see Him when he made his dwellings in the flesh.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness! After Admitting This, Why Do You Still Claim Jesus Isn't God? by malvisguy212: 8:39am On Aug 17, 2015

lexiconkabir:
christianity shouldnt be called christianity, it should have been paulinity, all the confusions are caused by paul the liar, no wonder jeremiah 8:8 is telling us that the bible has been changed by men, since they've lost the truth. if men wrote the book, then it is bound to contradict itself, hence the confusion of christians, smh.

and islam shall be called what ? Abrogated religion!! Of all the religions in the world it is only islam (Allah) change his revelation and replace it with different one , and still the abrogated verses are still in the book. Islam is a blind faith .

Surah 5:101-102: “O ye who believe!
Ask not questions about things
which if made plain to you, may
cause you trouble …Some people
before you did ask such questions,
and on that account lost their
faith.” (Yusuf Ali)

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 3,
Number 92:
Narrated Abu Musa: The Prophet was
asked about things which he did not
like, but when the questioners
insisted, the Prophet got angry.

EVEN SO, WE STILL NEED TO ASK:
Why did Allah and Muhammad discourage people from asking questions? What is Islam trying to hide?
Is blind faith the way to Islam? Why did Muhammad become angry at those who asked him questions? Why were people warned by Allah not to ask questions?
How is that in Islam, questioning can
lead to losing one’s faith? Does not this prove that even the right answers can lead to losing one’s faith in Islam?

Only an information control cult would
discourage anyone from asking
questions. Is it rational to accept any one religion as the true religion without
investigating or questioning it? Surely
not! Therefore, we will now question
Muslims about the teachings of Islam.

Christianity Etc › Re: Without The Shedding Of Blood, There Is NO Forgiveness. by malvisguy212: 7:52am On Aug 17, 2015

OgundeleT:
I said did God know that Adam and eve are going to eat the forbiden fruits before he created them? remember he's omniscient.

yes. GOD knows everything.

Christianity Etc › Re: Without The Shedding Of Blood, There Is NO Forgiveness. by malvisguy212: 8:50pm On Aug 16, 2015

OgundeleT:
did God know all these are going to happen or not

yes ,God knew All this will happened. Jesus had the chance to save himself, but he WILLINGLY gave himself up, and the bible say God was pleased.do you have any other way for the remission of sin ?

True out the old testament, the atoning of sin forestshadow the death of Jesus , in exedus the Passover lamb must be a male without defect ( Jesus is sinless) the Passover lamb must be eating without breaking the bone ( Jesus bone were not broken on the cross even dough the Jews custom was that before the sabbath day the person crucified, his bone must be broken, BUT our lord bone were not broken. There are lot more you need to know how the Passover lamb revealed God plan in christ Jesus.

1 Like

Christianity Etc › Re: Without The Shedding Of Blood, There Is NO Forgiveness. by malvisguy212: 8:39pm On Aug 16, 2015

musKeeto:
If Jesus didn't die, why would your god need a son?

did I say, Jesus did not die ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Without The Shedding Of Blood, There Is NO Forgiveness. by malvisguy212: 7:35pm On Aug 16, 2015

musKeeto:
Exactly my point. god was so angry with us, his son sacrificed himself to appease him.

The son was willing to lose his life(temporarily) to appease his father, and in turn got a 'name above all names'.

What a story. It's the year 2015 and someone is trying to convince me that this universe is all about a Jewish carpenter and three nails.

Your stories require FAITH because they do not stand up to reason. That's why you call them mysteries; you barely understand them too.

You've absorbed stories written by Jewish cavemen who had little knowledge about the world they lived in. Sadly, you've believed their stories to be true. Ordinarily, you wouldn't take those stories serious.
Do you really believe, BY GOOD REASON, that a talking snake convinced a woman to ignore the commands of her creator?
Do you believe that a man was swallowed by a fish and spent 3 days in its belly?
Today, if you handed over 5 loaves of bread and 2 fishes to me, and I somehow multiply it tenfold, comr give you may you chop, you go chop?

the bible indicate it, Jesus knew he will suffered a painful death,YET he chose the way, infacte the bible say He was obedient to death, the bible also say he was taken to be killed and slaughter YET he open NOT His mouth as a sheep. So prior to his death, He had the chance to excap this execution but Refused, he WILLINGLY went.

The talking snake did not just talk on his own, the context is very clear, the snake was possessed by satan.I dint just believe the bible, I was convinced from my heart , it is the word of God.

1 Like

Christianity Etc › Re: Morality Demands A Moral Law Giver by malvisguy212(op): 7:15pm On Aug 16, 2015

malvisguy212:
the nature and attribute of God in the bible is beyond imagination. if people were to have invented the God of Christianity, it is unlikely that it would be the demanding God of the Bible. The God of the Bible is described as holy , without sin and without the ability to commit sin. The holiness of God is described as being above anything that humans can attain, such that no human can stand before Him as holy. Behaving more morally upright than most other people is not sufficient to escape the punishment of the God of the Bible.
In all religions, salvation is attained by human effort, its is only in Christianity salvation is the free gift of God.

But He said, "You cannot see My
face, for no man can see Me and
live!" ( Exodus 33:20)
When He passes me I cannot see
Him. When He goes by, I cannot
perceive Him ( Job 9:11)
The Almighty is beyond our reach
( Job 37:23)
Soo the christian God does not look like 'god' invented in human mind.

Alright:
1. If objective moral values do not exist,
moral language cannot be predicated to
objective acts, but only to subjective
opinions regarding objective acts
2. Moral language can be predicated to
objective facts
3. Therefore, objective moral language
exists

Very briefly, my point here is the words
"RIGHT" and "WRONG" and in all their
variances are either attributed to ACTS
themselves our opinions about acts
themselves.There is absolutely NO other
way the words may be predicated, so
these two categories are exhaustive. An
example of each:
a. Slavery is wrong
b. I think of slavery as wrong
In the first, moral language (the word
"wrong" is attributed to the ACTUAL ACT of slavery. In the second, moral language is PREDICTED TO MY OPINION. What I am arguing is that, if objective moral values do not exist, then sentences of the first type are meaningless. The reason is that if there is no objective moral reality, then
moral language doesn't refer to any
existent thing.
Why do we say this word?
Slavery is wrong if objective morality do not exist ? Instead of "I THINK slavery is wrong.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Earth Is 4.5 BILLION Years Old. Surely Many Races Came Before Us! by malvisguy212: 7:11pm On Aug 16, 2015

plaetton:
OK.
I apologize for my harsh reaction.

But please let us know when you are expressing opinion and when you are stating facts.

thank you, Noted.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Earth Is 4.5 BILLION Years Old. Surely Many Races Came Before Us! by malvisguy212: 6:58pm On Aug 16, 2015

plaetton:
Shut up you ignorant mo. Ron.

Pls where did you get the information that humans began to live 6 to 10 thousand years ago?

malvisguy212:
if you correct me, I will learn from you.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Earth Is 4.5 BILLION Years Old. Surely Many Races Came Before Us! by malvisguy212: 6:55pm On Aug 16, 2015

johnydon22:

Uuhm sorry bro but do you mean to say the Universe or are you seriously implying the earth to be 14billion years old?

if you correct me, I will learn from you.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ... 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 (of 366 pages)