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Christianity Etc › Re: I Masturbated While Fasting,does It Have Any Effect On My Fast? by malvisguy212: 7:47pm On Feb 22, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
It seems that Nairaland christians self-service alot. I think I will leave this section in order to hold on to my faith!

the guy is a Muslim, don't be deceive.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by malvisguy212: 5:01pm On Feb 22, 2015

true2god:
@ Empiree,

You need not be angry. Neither Jesus nor the apostles (John, peter, james, philip, barthilomew, james, paul, mathias etc) partcipated nor traded in slaves. Why do you want them to right on evil they never participated or practiced (tho' there was slavery at that time)?

Mohammed, and his sahadas, (companions) on the other hand fully engaged in slave trade. The hadith and the quran (a supposedly litearal words from allah) fully endorssed slavery and prescribed how to have sexx with female slaves.

Dont blame me, blame mohammed and allah for not doing the right thing. You wont take my points rational as long as you take allah serios.

muhammed is a false prophet;

Qur'an 69:44-46 And if he (Muhammad)
had forged a false saying concerning Us
We surely should have seized him by his
right hand (or with power and might),
and then certainly should have cut off
his life artery (AORTA). [Hilali-Khan]

So if Muhammad had been a false
prophet and a liar and a deceiver, we
know how Allah would've killed him—
Allah would've cut his aorta. As long as
no one severs Muhammad's AORTA
Guess what?

Sahih al-Bukhari 4428 The Prophet in
his ailment in which he DIED, used to
say, "O Aishah! I still feel the pain
caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and
at this time, I feel as if my AORTA is being cut from that poison."

Meaning he is a false prophet
Note:this is from Islamic source

Christianity Etc › Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by malvisguy212: 4:27pm On Feb 22, 2015

Empiree:
The real reason Paul, Peter, Mathew, Mark, Luke and John made little or no reference to slavery in New Testament was because Old Testament was used to achieve their christiandom, christian civilization etc. They massacred and destroyed primitive people to get to the top. After they achieved everything they wanted, they now claimed their God is now peaceful. That He has renounced violence. That same God now transformed to three headed-god and he's peaceful and loving in New Testament. That's bu'llshit if you ask me.

But in the Old Testament, he is violent, detroyer, He was just killing men, women and children. He killed killed and killed and intimidated people. He then went for rehab and came out smiling, loving, caring, "no more crusade" bla bla bla after he already achived everything by violence. And almost everything about his violence past barely recorded in New Testament. In Old Testament, he had sword of Achillies, shield and armor and wore 'abaya'. After he came out from rehab as "nonviolence", he puts on suit and declared "no more crusade" after he already destroyed people's lives. And now he wants Muhammad to deal with the mess he created. Nosense

you don't know what you are saying.

According to Old Testament law,
anyone caught selling another person
into slavery was to be executed:

"He who kidnaps a man, whether he
sells him or he is found in his
possession, shall surely be put to
death." ( Exodus 21:16)

In the old testament people volunteers to work for what they want just as Jacob did before he get married,for this God seth law to guide them;

"If a man strikes his male or female
slave with a rod and he dies at his
hand, he shall be
punished." ( Exodus 21:20).

All what you wrote are from your own wrong idea.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 2:58pm On Feb 22, 2015

Maamin:
We are not even done with the topic and you want to digress. But you forgot that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth..in which everything holds. And even the light..but it became desolate and void with darkness covering the face of the deep.

And I hope you are not remotely saying that God was not responsible for creation of light?

my points is this, God allow evil to happened but the atheists claimed God is the author of evil which is wrong,there is not a single verse in the bible that say God did evil.the evil that was started in isaiah45 was not a moral evil,What the verse really is saying is that God decrees times of good things and times of judgment,people should not complained in view of there sin when evil befall them.you see my friends,when we follows the atheists points. God shouldn't have punished sinner in views of there sin.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 2:37pm On Feb 22, 2015

Horus:
According to Isaiah 45:7 the Lord that you go to church and worship every Sunday created evil:

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things]."

if God created evil ,don't you think we can see ,feel and touch it? /God allow it to happened because of the choice we make.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 2:19pm On Feb 22, 2015

muafrika:
Malvisguy212
Do you believe that the world is under the sway of the wicked one(We really should define what the devil and evil is, later maybe,) and the principalities, powers and rulers of this world are altogether the gods of this age?
If so, Is God still the ruler of the heaven and earth?
If yes, does the position of rulership held by these powers of darkness negate the power or rule of God over and above the same principalities?
And if all power ultimately rests and emanates from God, would we rightly refer to all these other powers, as the psalmist did in the opening post's quote, "the hand of God?"
Consider Daniel 7:9-14.

read this thread you may find somethings important in it. https://www.nairaland.com/1995965/athiest-claim-god-existed-prayer

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 2:13pm On Feb 22, 2015

Maamin:
Before time began or before mankind was created..can you kindly apply that verse (Isaiah 45:7) to pre-creation. What am saying here is that which ever way you twist it..God is responsible for all things just like the verse in the book of Isaiah made it clear. You said God does bring judgment and calamity (either directly or through
human authorities) on those who rebel...now doesnt that suggest that evil and calamity can also come from all loving and good God?

Among the angels there are angels of death, that bring evil upon certain people whose God's judgement has been pronounced upon them. In a nutshell God makes peace he also create evil or calamity..it goes both ways but it all depends on our freewills, actions and inactions..everything is from him.

let me give you an example of light;
Genesis 1:3
3 Then God said, “Let there be light”;
and there was light.
Where is the light? It's on the surface of
the earth for the first time. Where does
the light come from. The text does not
say directly, but it gives a lot of clues. Did God create the light? No! If God had
created the light, the text would have
said so, like it does in the rest of Genesis one. It says that God "let it be."

Apply it to evil and see my points.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 2:00pm On Feb 22, 2015

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 12:42pm On Feb 22, 2015

johnydon22:
And who lay foundation on how man should be bad?

man did it with his own hand,when God created adam and eve ,he made them perfect Infacte man was made in the image of God. Man fall the day he chooses to disobeyed God.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 12:37pm On Feb 22, 2015

Maamin:
I gree with you to some extent..about the nature of evil not being among the fundamental forces of nature...but this does not imply the fact that evil was not from God. The Bible should be taking in it entirety, it is self explanatory. Isaiah 45:7 is very clear..all things seen and unseen came from God, the tree of life and that of the Knowledge of good and evil where created by God. However, the created beings (Angels,humans alike) where given freewills to choose to do good or otherwise but with a recompense. Now that verse in Isaiah is very explicit about where evil comes from, in Deutronomy 30:15 King James Bible
"See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil..", this verse throws more light on the origin of evil.

The fact that God is light, and good and he is LOVE, does not limit him from creating all things including darkness,evil and hate. He has set all things before us but will also guide us and lead us through the right path only that way can we choose to serve and worship him in truth from our heart.

isaiah45:7 was not talking about moral evil. Atheists preferred the king James version.let look into the modern translations;

The One forming light and creating
darkness, Causing well-being and
creating calamity; I am the LORD who
does all these. ( Isaiah 45:7, NASB)

I form the light and create darkness, I
bring prosperity and create disaster; I,
the LORD, do all these things. ( Isaiah
45:7, NIV)

Isaiah 45:7 contrasts opposites. Darkness is the opposite of light. However, evil is not the opposite of PEACE. The Hebrew word translated "peace" is shâlôm, which has many meanings, mostly related to the well being of individuals. Râ‛âh, the Hebrew word translated "evil" in the KJV often refers to adversity or calamity. There are two forms of the word. Strong's H7451a most often refers to moral evil, whereas Strong's H7451b (the form used here) most often refers to calamity or distress. Obviously, "calamity" is a better antonym of "peace" than "evil."

God is not the author of evil. However,
God does reward and punish on the
basis of good and bad behavior.
Therefore, God does bring judgment and calamity (either directly or through
human authorities) on those who rebel.
God will ultimately judge all people,
since rebels will not be allowed in the
new, perfect creation.

Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Evil - Does The Bible Say So? by malvisguy212(op): 12:06pm On Feb 22, 2015

slyfox5555:
The question is similar to asking why does "darkness" exist? Darkness exist because of the absence of Light. Evil exist because of the absence of God. God did not create evil. When you remove God's moral standards: you have a solid framework for evil.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 12:02pm On Feb 22, 2015

TheIndustrialist:
Why are you Christians like this ? Somebody asked a question, instead of understanding the question first, you guys Are busy typing "freewill" ...how daft.

If there is freewill, then there exists multiple choices. Satan also had freewill right ? He choose from the choices he was presented with, unfortunately the wrong one.

Now, who presented those choices ? Who gave freewill ? In freewill, there comes life and death. And they both bring forth good and evil.

Now, who created those choices ? Who made freewill ? Did Satan create anything ?

If God is the beginning, and God is pure, prefect, holy, without impurity...etc, everything emanating from God , what brought impurity into purity ? What brought imperfection into perfection ?

Shalom.

https://www.nairaland.com/2035915/did-god-create-evil-does

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 12:00pm On Feb 22, 2015

johnydon22:
Which should also mean that man is responsible for the good that befall him...

yes,God lay the foundation of how man should be good.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 11:57am On Feb 22, 2015

TheIndustrialist:
Keep running.

Why not do justice to the questions presented to you than running ?
You guys do amaze me with your leggo.

what question?

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 11:02am On Feb 22, 2015

TheIndustrialist:
Why are you Christians like this ? Somebody asked a question, instead of understanding the question first, you guys Are busy typing "freewill" ...how daft.

If there is freewill, then there exists multiple choices. Satan also had freewill right ? He choose from the choices he was presented with, unfortunately the wrong one.

Now, who presented those choices ? Who gave freewill ? In freewill, there comes life and death. And they both bring forth good and evil.

Now, who created those choices ? Who made freewill ? Did Satan create anything ?

If God is the beginning, and God is pure, prefect, holy, without impurity...etc, everything emanating from God , what brought impurity into purity ? What brought imperfection into perfection ?

Shalom.

freewill indicated that man is responsible for the evil that befall him because he chooses it.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 11:00am On Feb 22, 2015

onetrack:
Then you admit that god is not all-powerful.

God is incapable of doing moral evil. Is not in the nature of God.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 10:56am On Feb 22, 2015

TheIndustrialist:
Ehmmm...clears throat.

Can you see, touch, feel, smell or hear "good" or "goodness" ?

that what I just said, what your points?

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 9:51am On Feb 22, 2015

johnydon22:
Isaiah 45:7

Jubilee Bible 2000
I form the light and create darkness; I make peace and create evil: I am
the LORD that does all this.

King James 2000 Bible
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create calamity: I
the LORD do all these things.

American King James Version
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the
LORD do all these things.

American Standard Version
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am
Jehovah, that doeth all these things.

Douay-Rheims Bible
I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the
Lord that do all these things.

Now ask me again from whence evil came!!!

I form the light, and create darkness: I
make peace, and create evil: I the
LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:7,

However, evil is not really a created
thing. You can't see, touch, feel, smell or
hear evil. It is not one of the
fundamental forces of physics, nor does
it consist of matter, energy, or the spatial dimensions of the universe. Still, skeptics like to claim that God created evil and cite the Bible to "prove" their point. The Bible is quite clear that God is not the author of evil and insists that He is incapable of doing so.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 9:32am On Feb 22, 2015

muafrika:
Am a Christian and I have my own understanding on this. But am interested in your explanations. So go ahead...

(No blasphemers please, or the Angel of God will do the same to anyone who does that here.) I can't stand that.

Consider;

Psalms 17:13,14 -

Arise O LORD, disappoint him, cast him down: deliver my soul from the wicked, which is thy sword:

From men which are thy hand, O LORD, from men of the world, which have their portion in this life, and whose belly thou fillest with thy hid treasure: they are full of children, and leave the rest of their substance to their babes.
KJV.

Now go ahead,

God created you and give you freewill to worship Him or reject Him,God will not interfere in your decisions,if YOU CHOOSE to do evil it's your choice.God allow evil to exits for man to have two option between good and evil.freewill without two option is partial freewill.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is Good And He Created EVERYTHING, Where Did Evil/bad Come From? by malvisguy212: 9:29am On Feb 22, 2015

muafrika:
Am a Christian and I have my own understanding on this. But am interested in your explanations. So go ahead...

(No blasphemers please, or the Angel of God will do the same to anyone who does that here.) I can't stand that.

Consider;

Psalms 17:13,14 -

Arise O LORD, disappoint him, cast him down: deliver my soul from the wicked, which is thy sword:

From men which are thy hand, O LORD, from men of the world, which have their portion in this life, and whose belly thou fillest with thy hid treasure: they are full of children, and leave the rest of their substance to their babes.
KJV.

Now go ahead,

God created you and give you freewill to worship Him or reject Him,God will not interfere in your decisions,if YOU CHOOSE to do evil it's your choice.

Christianity Etc › Re: 57 Cents That Made History by malvisguy212: 6:32am On Feb 22, 2015

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Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212(op): 6:21am On Feb 22, 2015

Christianity Etc › Re: Irreconciliable Contradictions In The Bible by malvisguy212: 9:13pm On Feb 21, 2015

udatso:
Open a thread about contradictions in the quran and you open a thread to prove the sonship of jesus from the quran. Are you alright

I wanted you to look into it.

Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Facts About Forgiveness by malvisguy212: 9:10pm On Feb 21, 2015

FrancisTony:
Source -- FrancisTony

do you want to give what you don't have/believe in ?how can you preach what you don't believe in?

Christianity Etc › Re: Irreconciliable Contradictions In The Bible by malvisguy212: 8:59pm On Feb 21, 2015

udatso:
You have been advised to open a new thread for this. You bringing more of this would be derailing the thread. Thanks

https://www.nairaland.com/2156788/conclusive-evidence-quran-proof-jesus

Christianity Etc › Re: Name Of Allah Appear On A Tree (pics) by malvisguy212: 8:54pm On Feb 21, 2015

tola9ja:
John 9:1Revised Standard Version (RSV)
A Man Born Blind Receives Sight

9 As he passed by, he saw a man(malvisguy212)[size=27pt] blind from his birth[/size].

to you it's an insult but unknown to you Jesus healed the same man.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Son Of Man ? {let The Bible Speak} by malvisguy212: 8:47pm On Feb 21, 2015

Empiree:
#yeyeman. Do you have any proof that Injil translated as Gospel by English man was recorded in the lifetime of Jesus?.

You see your argument is invalid as long as you have Bible according to everything except Jesus. One Gospel which seems different from chronicles is that of Barnabas...said to be blind "follower" of Jesus.

thank you for the insult.
In the Qur'an, Christians are referred to
as the people of the book,if it not the bible,then which book it is?

surah 5:47,48a
It was We who revealed the Law (to
Moses): therein was guidance and light.
By its standard have been judged the
Jews, by the Prophets who bowed (as in
Islam) to God's Will, by the Rabbis and
the Doctors of Law: For to them was
entrusted the protection of God's Book,
and they were witnesses thereto:
Therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and
sell not my Signs for a miserable price. If
any do fail to judge by (the light of) what
God hath revealed, they are (no better
than) Unbelievers. We ordained therein
for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose
for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and
wounds equal for equal."....

From this quotation it can be seen that
the holy Koran highly esteems the Tawrat ("guidance and light" wink

, and as having been revealed by Allah. Also a quotation from the Tawrat is given, which seems to be from Exodus 21:23-25,
" But if there is serious injury, you are to
take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for
tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn
for burn, wound for wound, bruise for
bruise. (Ex. 21:23-25)"

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Son Of Man ? {let The Bible Speak} by malvisguy212: 7:04pm On Feb 21, 2015

Empiree:
Lol, you tell me first which version of your bibles Jesus preached exactly. Then we start from there. Which one because you got different versions with obvious contradictions. Which one you want to use...which one?

dint you say the injil is not the bible? You are the one needed to be worried because the injil Allah reffer you to is no where to be found meaning Allah fail to guide his word as promise in the quran.

Christianity Etc › Re: Name Of Allah Appear On A Tree (pics) by malvisguy212: 6:58pm On Feb 21, 2015

tola9ja:
Ifeann OREMUSSANCTUS (DON'T FORGET UR ESTATE )malvisguy212 COME AND SEE THE BEAUTY OF ISLAM

how is this a benefit to mankind? This is the lying wonder bible talk about;
◄ 2 Thessalonians 2:9 ►New International Version
The coming of the lawless one will be in
accordance WITH HOW SATAN WORK. He will use all sorts of DISPLAYED of POWER through SIGNS and WONDERS that serve
the lie,

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Son Of Man ? {let The Bible Speak} by malvisguy212: 6:20pm On Feb 21, 2015

Empiree:
Sorry, it's talking about injil according Jesus or revealed to jesus.

Not Bible according to: Mathews Mark, Luke John. Those are hearsay with some different accounts. Not even Paul. Just don't like talking you otherwise i will provide you tafsir of the verse. But definitely Qur'an is not referring to your bogus versions of bible you have today

you have two option;
1.provide the injil and let the viewers see it (or)
2.remain silent.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Son Of Man ? {let The Bible Speak} by malvisguy212: 2:55pm On Feb 21, 2015

Empiree:
Lol, you think Qur'an is talking about your corrupted Book? hell no.

which book the quran was talking about? Allah will direct you to a non existing book?

Christianity Etc › Re: Question For Gatiano? by malvisguy212: 2:51pm On Feb 21, 2015

Pr0ton:
I'm also aware of the real person of Yahweh. I just had to ask to confirm if it's still the same Yahweh.

One Bible
Different versions
Different interpretations

Different holy spirits

Malvisguy212.. Yahweh was born. He is not self-existent.

you have many thing to learn about the word of God.

You see that skin colour of Jesus people argue about dos not count what matter the most is the spirit and word of God which the quran and bible called Him,because you a canal minded man,you will not understand,to you Mary give birth to Jesus but to me ,I will say she dint. In Surah 19:19, the angel
Gabriel said to Mary: “I am only a
messenger of thy Lord, to announce to
thee the GIFT of a holy son .” Here,
Gabriel refers to a son who was to be
given as a “GIFT” by God to Mary. Since
the Qur’an makes it very clear that the
son is a GIFT from God, it shows that Mary was only the recipient of that gift. She is not the source of that gift but God. The gift belongs to God. The gift was a spirit from God,in other word the gift was God.

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