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obiZEAL:When you live by the divine law of God, and you break it, God will not ignored it,those verses you quoted that God killed,who are the people God killed? Are they innocent? You claimed to be a christian and wanted to know the truth,instead of you to search the scripture,you went and search the internet. All the verses you quoted up there are the verse God pronounced judgement on the sinner, you even went all the way and make a case for witches and wizard including evil men, seriously? You quote a verse questioning God why he will destroyed the idols worshipper,my good friend. You are not a christian. here what God said to the isrealite; "It is not for your righteousness or for the uprightness of your heart that you are going to possess their land, but it is because of the WICKEDNESS OF THESE NATION that the LORD your God is driving them out before you, in order to confirm the oath which the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. ( Deuteronomy 9:5) Okay, how "wicked" could those people have been? let find out; "You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even BURNS THEIRS SONS AND DAUGHTER IN THE FIRE TO THEIR gods ( Deuteronomy 12:31) The wickedness of these people is confirmed in other verses of the Bible.3 So we see that these people are not quite as innocent as the Muslims would like you to believe. The fact that these people practiced child sacrifice is also confirmed in the secular writings of the Greeks. |
[quote author=Empiree post=31105707][/quote]let it be sealed in your heart. |
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[quote author=Empiree post=31090476][/quote]your heart is sealed with hot iron,it is only the grace of God which he bestows upon his son Jesus Christ,it saddened me you guys don't believe in his grace that why it will be difficult to seth someone like you free, but with God all things are possible. The hadith you post indicated that the angel revealed the revelation with violence conducts,isn't it strange to you that only muhammed this angel acts violence on? Angel Gabriel appear to Mary zackaria there is no mention of violence or the angel press the receiver so hard.now take for example this incident in both the bible and quran; Mizanul MizanuŸl Haqq, page 345: “After an accession of shivering and shutting his eyes, there used to come over him what resembled a swoon, his FACE WOULD FOAM and he would ROAR LIKE A YOUNG CAMEL.” Comperd it with this devil possessed man in the bible; Mark 9:20: “So they brought him. When the spirit saw Jesus, it immediately threw the boy into a convulsion. He fell to the ground and rolled around, FOAMiNG at the mouth.” Mastery in the Qur’anic Sciences, by al- Suyuti, 1:45-46: Zaid b. Thabit said: “When the inspiration came down upon Muhammad, he himself became heavier. One time, his thigh fell against my thigh, and I swear to God, I have never found anything that was heavier than the thigh of Muhammad. Whenever the inspiration came upon him, while he was on his camel, it limped, and its LEG WAS THOUGHT TO BE BROKEN; and sometimes it squatted.” Even the people do not trust his revelation so they called he(muhammed) a mad man; Surah 15:6: “And they say: O thou unto whom the Reminder is revealed, lo! Thou art indeed a MADMAN” (Pickthall) Read this other two incident in both the bible and quran,both men were possessed by evil spirit and wanted to commit suicide; Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah: So I (Muhammad) read it, and he (Gabriel) departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart. Now none of God’s creatures was more horrible to me than a poet or a man possessed: I could not even look at them. I thought, “Woe is me poet or possessed - Never shall Quraysh say this of me! I will go to the top of the MOUNTAIN AND THROW MYSELF DOWN that I may KILL MYSELF and gain rest.” Here we see muhammed wanted to kill himself because the devil impassonated angel possessed muhammed,same thing happened to a man who was possessed by evil spirit; Mark 5:5-9: And when Jesus had come out of the boat, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an UNCLEAN SPIRIT…And always, night and day, he was in the mountains and in the tombs, CRYING OUT AND CUTING HIMSELF WITH STONE. For He (Jesus) said to him, ”Come out of the man, unclean spirit!” There are a lot of evidence to prove ISLAM is satanic infacte I do you guys some favour in keeping some devilish teaching in the quran. |
Tola9ja. Narrow is the road that lead to life,few there will go in there but broad is the way that lead to hell, many will go in there.all the people that converted to ISLAM never learn the religion very well. I,my self ,I have a muslim barground my dad name is Ahmed,there is many many thing you guys don't know about Islam,only God open your eyes to see the satanic manipulation in the quran. In the Bible, whenever a revelation is given to a prophet through the agency of angels, there is not a single instance where the angel possesses the individual. Neither does the angel physically harm the recipient of the messages or cause that individual to foam at the mouth or make uncontrollable grunts and noises or become suicidal. However, these descriptions are common in demonic activities, whereby the unclean spirit enters into the individual causing him to display certain characteristics similar to the ones described here; Mishkat IV, page 360: “‘And indeed I saw him while the revelation descended upon him on an intensely cold day; THEN IT LEFT HIM while his brow steamed with sweat.’” Here it was clearly written the angel possessed him"then left him" after the revelation Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3: The Prophet added, “ THE ANGEL CAUGHT ME (forcefully) and PRESSED ME SO HARD that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, ‘I do not know how to read.’ Thereupon HE CAUGHT ME AGAIN and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, ‘I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?’ Thereupon he CAUGHT ME FOR THE THIRD time and pressed me, and then released me and said, ‘Read in the name of your Lord, who has created (all that exists) has created man from a clot. Here,we read the angel violently attack him. Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah: So I (Muhammad) read it, and he (Gabriel) departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart. Now none of God’s creatures was more horrible to me than a poet or a man possessed: I could not even look at them. I thought, “WOE IS ME POET OR POSSESSED - Never shall Quraysh say this of me! I will go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may KILL MYSELF and gain rest.” The evidences from Muslim sources themselves point to the conclusion that: (1) The revelations Muhammad actually received, did not come from Jehovah, the true God. (2) The spirit that spoke to Muhammad is clearly not the angel Gabriel but an impersonating demon that delivered contradictory messages to Muhammad. Muhammad was deceived and victimized by the impersonating spirit because he was unacquainted with the knowledge of the true God. Lacking knowledge, he believed every utterance of this spirit. (3) The spirit that spoke to Muhammad motivated him to commit gross acts of wickedness and indecency. |
parisbookaddict:let us continue to say the truth without abusive word, they may insults us and called us names, it is the devil that is controlling them. |
plaetton:how is Paul a founder of Christianity? Can a follower anoint the founder? If you want to prove atheists are morally good without God then you should not be bias in your argument. |
parisbookaddict:the friend was busy quoting scripture without understanding what the contents is saying.a muslim say muhammed was mention in song of solomon 5:16 but unknowingly to him in that same chapter of the bible the woman is describing the body of her husband. |
This is clearly written, Allah sanctioned paganism in the quran. |
Wealthyone:you called this lies? Is like saying the quran lie. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 23: Narrated By ‘Asim bin Sulaiman: I asked Anas bin Malik about Safa and Marwa (i.e. two mountains at Mecca). Anas replied, “We used to consider (i.e. going around) them a custom of the PRE-ISLAMIC PERIOD OF IGNORANCE, so when Islam came, we gave up going around them. Then Allah revealed, ‘Verily, Safa and Marwa (i.e. two mountains at Mecca) are among the SYMBOLS OF Allah. So it is not HARMFUL of those who perform the Hajj of the House (of Allah) or perform the Umra to ambulate (Tawaf) between them. ’” ( Surah 2:158) [End of Quote] Surah 2:158: “Lo! (the mountains) As- Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore NO SIN for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them ( as the pagan custom is).” (Pickthall) How can the very same two mountains that were sacred to the PAGAN become the “SYMBOLS OF Allah” all of a sudden? Moreover, how is it that the very same pagan ritual of running between the two hills is also retained in Islam? In addition, why was the Arab pagan ritual of going around the Ka’ba seven times, also retained in Islam? In the Hindu marriage rite of Saptapadi, the married couple circumnavigate the fire seven times. In the Islamic ritual of Tawaf, Muslims also circumnavigate the Ka’ba seven times. In both of these rituals, religious phrases are repeated during the circumambulation. Some of the rituals that Muslims follow during the Hajj are the same as the rites observed by Hindus in their worship of Shiva. SIMILARITIES OF ISLAM AND HINDU Take note of some of the striking similarities: (1) Both Hindu and Muslim male devotees are required to shave their heads during their pilgrimage. (2) And similar to their Hindu counterparts, male Muslim pilgrims are also required to dress in a garment consisting of two sheets of white cloth. This type of garment is known as Dhoti in Hinduism. (3) Just as the worshippers of Shiva observe a rite in which they walk around their object of reverence seven times, Muslim pilgrims also walk around the Ka’ba seven times. (4) Both their objects of reverence are Black Stones. In Hinduism, the Black Stone is known as Shiva lingam. (5) While Hindus drink water from the Ganga River as part of the sacred rites in their worship of Shiva, Muslims drink from the Well of Zamzam during the Hajj. (6) Additionally, the Crescent moon, which is associated with the Hindu deity Shiva, is also a symbol for Islam. In the Hindu portrayal of the Shiva symbol, the crescent moon is always painted across his forehead. Moreover, in every portrayal of Shiva, there is always a depiction of a snake curled around his neck. Weirdly, in pre-Islamic times, Allah is supposed to have sent a snake to guard the treasures of the Ka’ba. It may surprise Muslims to know that Umar, the 2nd Caliph of Islam, had reservations about kissing the pagan Black Stone. |
tola9ja:you are too dull sorry for the insult. I say"the picture you upload was a man with whith skin" that is the answer to your question about the pic you upload >>>> This statement indicate I don't know him. My next statement was this>>>Thousands of years ago, there was a man who walk on the earth was possessed buy the spirit of God,He is the word of God, God exalted his name above every other name, He is Jesus the Christ. This is the Jesus I am talking about. |
tola9ja:the picture you upload is a man with a white skin colour. Thousands of years ago, there was a man who walk on the earth was possessed buy the spirit of God,He is the word of God, God exalted his name above every other name, He is Jesus the Christ. |
parisbookaddict:read the other post, this Muslims are arguing what is in the quran. |
9jaforlife:Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 23: Narrated By ‘Asim bin Sulaiman: I asked Anas bin Malik about Safa and Marwa (i.e. two mountains at Mecca). Anas replied, “We used to consider (i.e. going around) them a custom of the PRE-ISLAMIC PERIOD OF IGNORANCE, so when Islam came, we gave up going around them. Then Allah revealed, ‘Verily, Safa and Marwa (i.e. two mountains at Mecca) are among the SYMBOLS OF ALLAH. So it is not HARMFUL of those who perform the Hajj of the House (of Allah) or perform the Umra to ambulate (Tawaf) between them. ’” ( Surah 2:158) [End of Quote] Surah 2:158: “Lo! (the mountains) As- Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore NO SIN for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them ( as the pagan custom is).” (Pickthall) How can the very same two mountains that were sacred to the PAGAN become the “SYMBOLS OF ALLAH” all of a sudden? Moreover, how is it that the very same pagan ritual of running between the two hills is also retained in Islam? In addition, why was the Arab pagan ritual of going around the Ka’ba seven times, also retained in Islam? In the Hindu marriage rite of Saptapadi, the married couple circumnavigate the fire seven times. In the Islamic ritual of Tawaf, Muslims also circumnavigate the Ka’ba seven times. In both of these rituals, religious phrases are repeated during the circumambulation. Some of the rituals that Muslims follow during the Hajj are the same as the rites observed by Hindus in their worship of Shiva. SIMILARITIES OF ISLAM AND HINDU Take note of some of the striking similarities: (1) Both Hindu and Muslim male devotees are required to shave their heads during their pilgrimage. (2) And similar to their Hindu counterparts, male Muslim pilgrims are also required to dress in a garment consisting of two sheets of white cloth. This type of garment is known as Dhoti in Hinduism. (3) Just as the worshippers of Shiva observe a rite in which they walk around their object of reverence seven times, Muslim pilgrims also walk around the Ka’ba seven times. (4) Both their objects of reverence are Black Stones. In Hinduism, the Black Stone is known as Shiva lingam. (5) While Hindus drink water from the Ganga River as part of the sacred rites in their worship of Shiva, Muslims drink from the Well of Zamzam during the Hajj. (6) Additionally, the Crescent moon, which is associated with the Hindu deity Shiva, is also a symbol for Islam. In the Hindu portrayal of the Shiva symbol, the crescent moon is always painted across his forehead. Moreover, in every portrayal of Shiva, there is always a depiction of a snake curled around his neck. Weirdly, in pre-Islamic times, Allah is supposed to have sent a snake to guard the treasures of the Ka’ba. It may surprise Muslims to know that Umar, the 2nd Caliph of Islam, had reservations about kissing the pagan Black Stone. |
9jaforlife:Ibn `Umar said: “Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) faced the Black Stone, touched it, and then placed his lips on it and wept for a long time.” Likewise, `Umar also wept for a long time. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: ‘ O `Umar, this is the place where one should shed tears.”’ (Reported by Al-Hakim who considers it a sound Hadith with a sound chain of authorities) Muhammad touched and kissed the Black stone. He “placed his lips on it and wept for a long time.” If this is not idolatry, then what is it? In view of his pagan past, Muhammad needed something tangible that connects him to Allah. Thus, he submitted to idolatry. That is why he also stated that the Black Stone “is the place where one should shed tears.” And Umar gave in to blind allegiance. God warned the Israelites to avoid an entrapment of Satan – an entrapment that Islam, centuries later, failed to escape. Leviticus 26:1: “Do not make for yourselves worthless idols. You must not erect for yourselves a carved statue or a sacred pillar and you must not put a STONE as a sacred showpiece in your land to bow down toward it. I am Jehovah your God.” Can any warning be clearer than this? It is commonly taught that Judaism, Christianity and Islam are the three monotheistic world religions, and many a time it is implied that all the adherents of these three religions pray to the same God. Nothing could be further from the truth than this. Islam is heathenism in monotheistic form. There is no place for any form of idolatry, whatsoever, in Christianity. 1 John 5:21: “Guard yourselves from idols.” This gives us a legitimate reason to reject Islam. |
God bless you my brother.I love this. |
michaelwestern:why do you want to commit suicide? Are you depress? |
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9jaforlife:how is this an answer to my question? I believe by now you should notice the lies that being told here. Jeremiah was a weeping prophet,the teacher of the law don't believe in his prophecy,Jeremiah 8:8 was not talking about SCRIPTURE,it was talking about the law,the bible was not written by teachers of the law and the verse was talking about them.Jeremiah appears as foreshadowing the prophet of Nazareth ( Matthew 23:2-12) 2saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; 3therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them. 4“They tie up heavy burdens and lay them on men’s shoulders, but they themselves are unwilling to move them with so much as a finger. 5“But they do all their deeds to be noticed by men; for they broaden their phylacteries and lengthen the tassels of their garments. 6“They love the place of honor at banquets and the chief seats in the synagogues, 7and respectful greetings in the market places, and being called Rabbi by men. 8“But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9“Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10“Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ. 11“But the greatest among you shall be your servant. 12“Whoever exalts himself shall be humbled; and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted. Now, can you answer my question. |
SNCOQ3:God bless you. |
Empiree:you are the one need to be worried caused Allah has already promise you hell when you die. You guys did not say anything but throw insult on everyone,for the number of time I have chatted with atheists and Muslims, Muslims insults more than atheists.am very disappointed at you guys. |
johnydon22:you sound angry, why nah? I told you to falsified my claimed but you dint instead you are throwing abusive word at me, thank but no thank to where you learn this moral from. |
9jaforlife:very good, you admits it is the word of God but has been change,I want you to answer the following question and see where you will end up.if you are sincere you will notice satanic manipulation in Allah word. 1.when was the bible corrupted? If it was before islam, why would Allah refer Muhammad to something that is Corrupted to make confirmation? 2 If it was after Muhammad had died, how was he able to receive the revelation that the Scripture (Torah and Injeel) had been corrupted ? 3. The quran confirms that the Scripture was a clear proof in writings. This means there were copies in circulation. How possible all copies vanished without anyone having a copy anywhere? You should by now discover a lie is told. 4. Why would God be so weak as to allow man throw away His words before He would vow to protect the subsequent revelations? Did He learn from experience? I tell you the truth,if you answer this questions properly you will discovered sooo many lies. Thank you. |
johnydon22:The Epistles of St. Paul was not a prophesy or commandment infacte Paul was not a prophet he was a teacher the disciples were only advice to continue the teaching of Jesus christ.but the books in the old testament was a commandment from God and I Gave you many verses were God seth law against slavery. Paul is teaching obedient to the church,the book did not teaches only about slave but every other aspects of obedient,it is the same thing in the old testament,master has rule that will protect him the same thing goes to slaves,children e.t.c read the whole verse and you will understand the content. 6:5-9 The duty of servants is summed up in one word, obedience. The servants of old were generally slaves. The apostles were to teach servants and masters their duties, in doing which evils Infacte read what verse 9 say; 9 And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him. Read the whole verses here https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+6 |
johnydon22:oh my sweet Jesus,is this your prove that the bible support slave? My battery is low .by God grace I will be back. Thank you. |
johnydon22:falsified my claimed if you can. Infacte this verse proof that there was poverty back then and people usually sold them self ; Liviticus 25:39 “‘If any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to you, do not make them work as slaves. And verse 47 to 49 say; 47 “‘If a foreigner residing among you becomes rich and any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to the foreigner or to a member of the foreigner’s clan, 48 they retain the right of redemption after they have sold themselves. One of their relatives may redeem them: 49 An uncle or a cousin or any blood relative in their clan may redeem them. Or if they prosper, they may redeem themselves. All this verse indicated that the people are living in poverty that God allow them to sold there self into slave and God provide law to guide this slave. |
simplex2:why do you falsely accused me of insulting other? Have you ever seen me insult other? God will judge. |
johnydon22:The Bible denounces slavery as sin and goes as far to put slave traders in the same boat as murderers (1 Timothy 1:10) Back in the days of Leviticus slavery was sanctioned due to economic reasons. Back then, there were no such thing as bankruptcy laws so people would sell themselves into slavery to rectify debts. A craftsman could use his skills to literally "pay off" a debt. Or a convicted thief could make restitution by serving as a slave. (Exodus 22:3) Jacob sold himself for seven good years to get the woman of his choice but his uncle trick him and with different woman he has no intention to married,still Jacob volunteers for another seven years just to get recheal and he get her.we can see that even Jacob who is favour by God get a harsh treatment. The Bible recognizes the reality of slavery, but it never promotes the practice of slavery. It was the biblical principles that ultimately led to the overthrow of slavery, both in ancient Israel . "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death." ( Exodus 21:16) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus. ( Galatians 3:28) knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether SLAVE or FREE. ( Ephesians 6: ![]() |
johnydon22:quote it |
johnydon22:were in the bible God approve slavery. |
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