₦airaland Forum

kingphilip:
you're trying to say that according to Komekn since Omeruo couldn't be signed permanently by Middlesborough even though he helped them to the premiership because he is not good enough that Aluko is not good enough that's why Hull city didn't retain him

komekn:
MISINFORMATION

Aluko played with Hull in the EPL.

He didn't like the style of play and went to Fulham although in the championship a much bigger club with more money.

The lure of more money took him from Fulham to Reading unfortunately Reading have lost thier way multiple management changes have not helped.

kentebemoney:
Guys just finished watching the game, men! Our guys dey press. Lawd!!!

Ighalo and Kelechi were pressing the life out of the back three with the middle four and back four pressing hard. We should be happy!

REAL TALK NOW
As much as we pressed them, so did they
But why they had more possession was because of our average pass accuracy, Brian idowu was just ballooning the ball in the air, defensively he tried but passing and take on's ? Him no try, Echeijile of 2013 better pass am.

John ogu!!! Very underrated guy. If you notice when he came in, we switched to a 4-1-4-1 formation with ogu in front of the back four and Musa as the front guy given the back three of the polish guys having time on the ball to play up to the center line cus they were going for a goal, but the difference now was that they still had only two central midfielders(3-4-3) but we had a John ogu sitting deep with two guys that can mark in Onazi and ndidi (truth is Onazi at room temperature can ginger counter attack) I.e
It was 3 against 2 in the middle, they tried to build from the middle (for where ndidi and Onazi dey) counter them sharp sharp in a space of 5 minutes we countered twice and almost scored. 10mins more we could have scored.

Tyrone Ebuehi dey chin-gum die.

Weakness
The polish guy were winning header in our box too much and our free kicks were not played in to threaten areas.

komekn:
When Tega ripped the championship last season, how many EPL teams were queuing up to sign him.

Is that not an indictment you helped a club to get to the EPL and they didn't break the bank to sign you but let you go. How many EPL clubs were waiting to sign him after his outstanding performance.

How many MOTM awards did he win in the Championship

I do not know Onazi but do you And is that what he told you You are being presumptuous to a fault

These are old players on the wrong side of 30 you and have seen thier best days behind them taking an easy ride in a far less competitive league that you have in Turkey.

This is laughable Pepe is 35 so also or thereabouts are Robihno and Quaresma or maybe you deh joke.

Kog45:
I love your question.I think we had this discussion yesterday based on Mikel Agu late call and metaljigsaw said why when we have Ndidi,Onazi,Joel,Ogu,Etebo,and Agbo even Agbo continue invitation has a question mark.

Humility017 and metaljigsaw believe what we need now is AM cos it was evident against Poland and they are right but the question is do we have one.

I came up with Sone Aluko and Kekechi Nwakili but some came hard on me said why Aluko?but didn't question why Nwakili Kelechi.

The issue here is simple we are too sentimental and emotional in our response to issues and we often forget that we are talking football.

I now realized mentioning name Aluko is not the issue or his quality is questionable but some see it as a way to hit back at some monikers,that's not analysis.

If we are questioning clamouring for Aluko then why are we trying to justify Chiedebere Nwakili invitation for Algeria and Argentina match,pls on what ground.

I made my recommendation and i said Aluko and Kelechi,Humility017 thumb me up on Kelechi Nwakili and forgiveness said why Kelechi Nwakili who is now playing in dutch 2nd tier.

I think Aluko would fit in just like Joel Obi cos he once a member of the team right from U20 and Nwakili is a young lad with great talent and see him as a future replacement for Mikel.

Major issue here we leave football analysis to settle personal scores which is not good for this thread.

forgiveness:
Very simple, his market value dropped being a Nigerian.

Have you looked at Agbonlahor's before asking that question? No. I don't think so. You just asked because you think he failed.

Breaking into the English national team is not the bone of contention. It's the financial benefit and opportunity that comes with being an English player is what I am talking about.

I think you now understand.

komekn:
Substantiate your position not just with emotive preference.

The same league our Core midfielder is praying to come too. Onazi would have been in Birmingham if not for work permit issues. He was ready to dump the supposed top quality of the Turkish league for the competitive grit and physicality of the championship.

The same league that Omeruo couldn't hack it and left for an easier ride in Turkey.

I would concede that the Turkish league is more technical (pretty football) on average but I would say the Championship is more competitive, physical and definitely faster than the Turkish league.

That's why when you want an easy life when you get to the latter stages of your career you shift to Turkey also great tax regime. Hopefully you willl get paid notorious for owing players wages.

komekn:
I cant say conclusivey but I will say unless they are tested you will not know.

One thing I can say Omeruo will struggle to get a club in the English Championship something Efe will not have to do. So can we say all those heads of recruitment, club analysts and managers are blind.

komekn:
Don't make assumption about personality unless you know players. And it's not as simplistic as you put it team cohesion and fusion is still about quality not personality.

The Ego of Nigerian players in the past leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Even when they play in the same club you will be shocked. But I will not mention names.

If quality and performance is the only consideration nobody will complain.

Do you think KC is better than him. Honestly speaking and why

komekn:
That was my first reaction to Efe Ambrose he is finished.

But as it stands right now he is the stand out defender in the Scottish premiership league. It's a lowly league but he is standing out and that means he has improved.

Furthermore, you may disbelieve me but I know at least one EPL club that wanted him and quite a few Championship clubs too. However, work permit issues have restricted him.

Can you say conclusivey that Balogun and Omeruo are better if you wish to be honest. Unless you want to rely on old performances.

komekn:
The basis for any call up should be outstanding performance in your club and league particularly if it's a backwater league.

Or in the alternative good quality in a more competitive quality league.

From that base line you invite players you play friendlies and then you select. How many players of Nigerian origin are playing regularly for top teams in a top league That's your first Base line.

If that does not suffice you look at league that are good quality or second tier to the very best leagues.

When KC was scoring regularly at Man city, there was nothing to test, his performances selected him. However, football is not static you must keep being competitive if not you can be dropped for the in form players.

You create competition to select the best. You do not rely on past glories, biased recommendations based on gain by agents,

Truidstar:
My brother I tire, if no be Martins, Aluko, Akpan and now Faleye. Make we kuku invite 64 players come camp. We are our own problem.

forgiveness:
Sone Aluko career dive nosed because he choosed to play for Nigeria else e for don dey big club if he choosed England.

Which player is par or better than Sone Aluko, playing in the same SS/RW position?

komekn:
It's individuals that make the team not the team that makes the individual.

You can not make conclusion as to SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER with regard to players because unless a player is tested, proven, assessed, how can you know.

I recognise you as one of the few informed and mostly balanced contributors on this forum.

Even in England there is favoritism and nepotism in football as well as racism. That's why players can be denied opportunity.

Your deduction on SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER is way too hasty. Can I suggest premature prejudice.

For instance Obagoal has been tried and tested at a very high level. Does the possibility exist that he is currently better than KC, I would say yes, however, it's all speculative because he has not been tested. So I simply DO NOT KNOW. But if opportunity is denied we will NEVER KNOW. What does it take to invite him to camp nothing but of course NFF politics at play. A player who had better statistics than Ighalo.

It's the Managers responsibility to create convergence and fusion of the best players available to him into a team.

From watching Sone Aluko who was denied opportunity by NFF in the most nefarious of ways. I would say outside of Mikel Obi arguably one the better options as an AM currently.

komekn:
Primarily but not exclusively as a RB he plays both positions. He left Wolves not for football reasons but the influence of Mendes and the Portuguese project going on there.

Hope Akpan has played for Nigeria when he was in the EPL. Unfortunately his club got relegated and he refused to go to a lower less competitive league. Furthermore the managers has been blatantly discriminatory. See link below when a manager makes a public apology you know something is up.

https://www.burtonalbionfc.co.uk/news/2018/february/0802-hope/


Good at club level in a backwater league doesn't cut it. Is he among the top five best players in that league.

A player who couldn't cut it at Chelsea or the Championship.

What I am saying until players are tested we really do not know what quality they bring you the table. Your approach is based on favouritism, competition creates an environment for excellence.

Danny Shittu is a classic example frozen out by two managers but arguably one of Nigeria's best defenders. Only because Vogts gave him a chance the NFF were unwilling to do.

Let's have open competition not exclusive favoritism.

Daejoyoung:
l wonder what also became of Steven Sunday and Anderson Esiti.

Daejoyoung:
Aluko a winger?

Kog45:
It was obvious that without Mikel we find it hard to link midfield with attacks and only way is to find solution either with our formations or searching for one.

I remember Westerhoff made a lasting solution to his team with just a month to WC with Chidi Nwanu and Mike Emenalo inclusion and i think Rohr can do the same unless he is satisfied with the team performance without Mikel.

Now in the team we have Ndidi,Onazi,Joel,and Agbo who am still suspecting his always inclusion without kicking ball even in friendlies,calling Mikel Agu as a replacement for Mikel leave a question ?

My major question is Sone Aluko not good enough to slug it out even the young prodigy Kelechi Nwakili can be called up and let see what he can do.

Just too obvious we need good AM.

BascoVanVeli:
I am not saying for us to be silly, Shehu gave away a set piece not a direct freekick.

Daejoyoung:
Aluko a winger?

Daejoyoung:
l mentioned all the players we need now in all departments. Aluko is an attacking midfielder.

Daejoyoung:
We have Aluko, and what of Kingsley Sokari? even Nosa lgiebor has been completely forgotten.
To strengthen the team, we don't need an Agu since we have so many good players in his position. We need a Samuel Kalu, Sone Aluko, Ajiboye(Aiyenugba) and a fit Onyekuru , and we are set for the world cup.

sontoly:
moses always have this awkward shooting style, he cant shoot properly from outside the box, it will always drift, and him now playing freekicks for nigeria is wrong, let him stick with throwings.

asha80:
ok i get what you are saying but off my head available attacking midfielders now are aluko and nwakali

gamaliel9:
Rohr cheated Joel Obi by playing him in deep defensive midfield....How? Changed him with Onazi ,then plays him[Onazi] in attacking midfield. Our Joel should be allowed to move forward....he is a natural attacking midfielder

Kog45:
I think Balogun and Ekong partnership reassured us of something great with yesterday performance especially Balogun compared to his last two games in Eagles colour.Ekong keep on improving per match.

Sir why so much emphasis on Omeruo clearance though poor clearance but remember Ekong despite his good performance had the worst clearance yesterday inside 18 yard box.

MetalJigsaw:
What do you mean by you make do of what you have? Our problem in that team apart from the Gk is creativity which only Mikel can boast of. An your talking about making do with DMs. Can agu play as AM?

And you'll say someone else doesn't know about football. We don't need Agu... all the DMs in the team are better than him.

Humility017:
it will be good you learn how to write politely...just because you have access to a keyboard...shouldn't make you loose respect in your words.

from your response...I have since know nancho to be a good set piece taker for a player who could shot accurately from afar into the opponent net..I have never doubted his dead balls prowess...

leaving Moses to keep taking free kicks...is like doing samething same way over and over again and expect a different results...

there is always room for flexibility...severally i remember how okocha dead balls proved decisively for us....
Moses is not a player who could comfortably shot from outside the team yard box and expect a goal....he thrives better in the opponent yard box...

tbaba1234:
Idowu plays wing back every weekend, he is better at that.

Mujtahida:
Too late for Holland. He is ours-heart and soul

MetalJigsaw:
That's what we need in that team aside Mikel, instead of recruiting multiple DMs

tbaba1234:
For a 4 man defence, I will play Aina on the left and Ebuehi on the right. Idowu is better as a wing back than a full back.

Ebuehi trumps Shehu in almost every aspect. Pace, positioning and defensive IQ. I hope he gets a full game against Serbia for us to see what i am talking about.

I want to see us play again without Mikel but this time with a three man midfield.. Joel, Onazi, Ndidi...