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somehow:
Good, now can Dessers and Umar perform better than Kayode in La liga with the same condition Kayode operated?

we dont know because they have not been tasted there, but kayode actually didn't do well in laliga. he could not get the starting role and didn't record a goal in laliga

somehow:
Kayode that I know is not an in-box player. Can't deputise Ighalo nor can he hold up play. I'm talking of a proper 9 here. Kayode to me is more of a forward (winger) than a CF.

in as much as I dont rate him that much but his a CF, every striker operate differently, not all strikers are good in holding up play.

tbaba1234:
Uzoho is not a bad GK. He is young and in my opinion is already getting better.

He was not bad in the second half against Poland or Serbia. Anyone with a keen eye can see that he has great potential.

I am not sure, he is ready for the WC but he can do a decent job.

I am pro Uzoho but the question is why manage when we have people that can do a better job, Uzoho should be in Russia but not starting, he has good prospect but I doubt he can deal with the naija pressure.

Alloy Agu should be sacked, his fraud

Kog45:
Sir,sometimes our invitations bring questions,is Rohr not aware that we have two experience Keeper in Isreali league,was iit not the same league that Rohr saw Ogu and Nwakaeme.

I know that Uzoho,Ezenwa and Akpeyi are not better than Dele and Ejide unless we want to be sentimental.

Dele and Ejide should be given chance to compete and let's see competition.

I believe the Nigeria goalkeeper coach is the reason for all this issues, keepers get better with age, experience has a lot of role to play in goalkeeping, Uzoho has alot of prospect but that is not enough.

An avoidable mistake could cost is our chances, one of Ejide or Aiyenugba should be invited to steady the ship, I will prefer Ejide though

forgiveness:
I don't understand why people can't understand the goal of going to the world Cup.


If Cameroon goal was to build team for another 10 years and decided to drop Rogger Milla, how can dey reach quarterfinals?

We are going to the world Cup to win or achieve with the best we have hence the best must be called to fulfil the task regardless of age or color.

The Egyptian keeper is over 40 and he will start in goal for them

forgiveness:
What did Mikel Obi do for us before 2013 after almost a decade in the National team?

It is a big lost to Nigeria because there are no striker as competent as Martins Obafemi currently in the National team. Oh.. ha!

I just confirmed you are really tribalistic

forgiveness:
Only two games is not enough to right Ideye off.

He's still better than Dessers and Umar.

I know people will not focus on what Ogbeche can bring to the table but his age to discredit him.

Kayode Olanrewaju is far ahead of these two players. He brings more to the team.

If we look at Dessers stats in Eredivise, it's not impressive neither is Sadiq Umar's impressed in Seria A.

However, Kayode Olanrewaju has impressed in all the leagues in went to including la Liga.

he didnt do well in La liga, 0 goals in 12 matches is cool,

goldfish80:
Bros, this is not true o....Those skills you saw were neither doctored nor film tricks. That guy was an extremely talented and skillful player, you just have to give it to him.
I saw him play with my korokoro eyes. He's like a quicker Kanu Nwankwo. At a point he was details away from signing for either Stoke city or Newcastle.

It is rather unfortunate his career was cut short when he signed a bad contract with Boavista which ended in litigation at CAS. Nigerians singled and took out their frustrations on him because of his conspicuous looks and long dreads, most of whom do not know how talented he was .

very true, I just finish watching his clip, maybe he was not serious enough to reach his potential, talent is not enough

bengine:
Umar is not a lethal finisher, he is just ok but he offers a lot more as a forward..he has pace and very skillful for a guy that tall..his hold up play is good too...too be honest I don't mind him being our third striker, his unpredictability can cause a few upsets at the world cup...

If we can just get nachos finishing and download it into Sodiq's brain, I would take Sodiq ahead of Ighalo right away in our starting line up...

I don't think taking just Ighalo and nacho to world cup as our strikers is good..one of them would get injured at some point..and u can't really trust Musa..

i want Umar or any other young striker to be invited but not as a replacement for ighalo but another option, take ighalo to Netherland and he will surely be one of the league top striker, money took ighalo to china, he had many option

Ighalo has perform against the best of the best in premier league, he just need to be fed and he will perform, the assist from Mikel against Cameroon was not easy for him, but he had to beat his man with the body and some skills added before taking the shot, Umar can't do that

Icon79:
Yes. Or do you win trophies in the first match?
Please educate us

*trying very hard not to include #mugu*


O pari

a tournament is won after playing the whole series, you cant get into the final if you dont win the quaterfinal and semis, ronaldo been injured in the final does not take anything away from him been helpful in there win

Let's I forget the ODE title fit you

#egbonode

Icon79:
LOL. Actually, let's be honest here, Portugal won the trophy without him. There's no evidence that Portugal would've won that game if Cristiano Ronaldo played the whole match. I would like to see Argentina win without Leo Messi. That's the difference, bro. One player is indispensable to his team the other player isn't


O pari

so a tournament trophy is won only in the last match, SMH

sontoly:
may be for portugal but not madrid, that striking position is too restricted for ronaldo to play, he love to play anywhere in the front, calling him the striker doesnt look ideal cos benzema has that postion.

Madrid played 4-4-2

tbaba1234:
But Mikel was already in the super eagles very early in his chelsea career.. That is the difference.. He did not join 2 years after playing as a DM.

Yahaya has been playing as a right back for 2 years now.. If he joined the super eagles when he was an attacking talent then it easy for him to continue in that role.. Right now, Yahaya is a right back..

It make no difference, they are not static, they are professionals that can adjust

Humility017:
you guys are all trying to defend poor performance...

I never knew that the super eagles was that poor...that the midfield merely creates one chance for the striker to score goals...

please you should tell me something else.

which chance was created to him in Poland and Serbia match

sontoly:
Ronaldo is not a strike but scores more than any strikers in the world, maybe naija we dont necessary need a striker lets make use of what we have, find one goal scoring winger and we are good to go, onyekuru comes in mind.

Ronaldo plays the striking role now for Madrid and Portugal now

tbaba1234:
Why would Yahaya never be considered a RB??

You seem to forget that Mikel was the second best player at an under 20 tournament and was capped by Nigeria soon after... So even as he was being converted to a defensive player, he was still playing an offensive role for Nigeria.

If Yahaya moves to a bigger club and continues playing as a RB. Nigeria will most likely call him as a right back... Ndidi was a CB before he was converted to a DM. Iheanacho was not a CF in the youth ranks. Musa Muhammed started out as a CB in the youth ranks, Chidiebere Nwakali was a right back at the CAF under 17 and at the start of the under 17 WC.

Yahaya right now is a right back.. That is the role, he has played for a couple of years now.

Youth players are converted all the time..

You said if yahaya goes to a big club and continue playing as a RB then he will be called to play as a RB, don't that contradict Mikel case, chelsea is a big team and played Mikel every week as a DM but that didn't stop us from playing him in the AM position, even now Mikel still dont play in the AM position for his Chinese team.

solonnachi:
Mr O pari. I get you clearly but if the team that played Serbia faces Iceland, we will be flogged badly. I understand your worries but Rohr understands that Nigerian mentality which says WIN AT ALL COST. He is doing all last minute arrangement to perfect his team, lets allow him scout for more players. We still have DRCongo, England, Czech Rep and another country to face. Allow the man to sharpen his side. The NFF are dangling 'world cup carrots' at foreign born talents. Lets allow him

That team lost against Serbia but won Poland...iceland lost in there friendly.

every game is different

tbaba1234:
Andy Johnson played in a terrible crystal palace team but was still one of the highest scorers in the league.
A good scorer will take advantage of the scraps fed to him and yes sometimes scorers had to be selfish.

Alan Shearer scored plenty goals out of nothing and smashed goals from distance, He did not have to run with the ball to score than many goals.

how many scrap was fed to ighalo?

Kalapizim:
have you also thought why conte has morata injured with giroud on the bench but choose to play harzard at number 9 ? coaches do these things for reasons best known to them. I don't know why we are blaming players . They didn't have a good game period ! Uche Agbo didn't play yet again how about that.

The comparison is not thesame, Hazard was playing the false 9 but he was fit, Ebuehi was allegedly not fit while we have another option Aina on the bench.

tbaba1234:
No one has said this but Ekong could be blamed for both goals.. I have seen blames for Ebuehi and Awaziem but few have looked at Ekong but he arguably had the chief blame. Ekong has been our most consistent defender but he could have done better on both occasions.

The truth is that, you can not hold just one or two persons responsible.. It was poor defending as a group. A sharp contrast to the organized defensive display against Poland.

Awaziem had a solid game (especially in the second half) before the goal, he certainly has a role in the final 23. Ebuehi started strongly but seemed to fade.. (could be that he is not yet 100%).

After reviewing the game, i do not see what the panic is about.. The coach will learn his lessons and come again.

Chill, it is just a friendly.. The purpose is to discover weaknesses and areas where we can improve.

In the run-up to Atlanta 96, Togo beat our Olympic dream team 3:1 in the national stadium, Lagos.. We played with all our stars and were battered by Togo. Several Nigerians wrote off the team.. In fact, many people did not watch our games till we got to the knock out stages. It was this same team that beat Brazil and Argentina.

The USA 94 and France 98 teams, lost almost all their friendlies before the WC but still had impressive performances in the tournament proper. Better to struggle in March, than to struggle in June. The coaches has a few months to review the tapes of these friendlies, figure out their weaknesses and work hard to improve during the final camp.

I said this thing few weeks to our friendly

Oasis007:
Nah...... Ebuehi ain't fit, but Rohr had no Alternative but to play him for the whole Match Duration.

Aina was fit

Kog45:
Sir honestly they are making it difficult for Echiejile to be in Russia.

We played two international match and Echiejile was not used,meaning what?he is behind.

Truth be told he need to tell us he is ready again,first by getting playing time with his club cos very nauseating for experience player like him not having playing time in Belgium division two league.

Idowu was not that wonderful, Aina same too

Goke7:
we've seen aina in two games and he was not impressive, For Rohr to admit that Echiejile is still in competition, it says a lot that the LB is still not sorted despite the all the names that have been called.

we seem to forget that aina, idowu and ebuehi are still very young players that if not the lack in depth we have in the squad, they stand no chance in our senior side, that's how bad things are currently

They are making it easy for Echiejile, I wont be surprised to see him in Russia

TheSuperNerd:
He decided to be such an ass and I am putting him in his sorry place. He addressed me rudely and I told him to not repeat that when next he quotes me because if I do same he will cry foul... but the dollophead proceeded to repeat his nonsense albeit in a weak shade... that really shows the dude was looking for trouble... and now he remembers he wanna talk football. How really silly of him.

Nigga stop crying and wipe your tears

Kog45:
Pls Martz101 and TheSuperNerd let us be civic here and talk football.God bless you guys.

Noted Sir

TheSuperNerd:
But you can try to deny your dollopheaded-inspired ignorance and the ambiguity in your comment on Okocha-Mikel abi...



Asking why Mikel's absence is one of the reasons we lost.... you really are lost fella. Smh.. run along aiit.. and read the latest article I just posted to help school you before you make such ridiculous "faux pas" again.

I know your type E-warrior, introvert that believe the right place to vent their anger for been bullied all there life is on internet, My friend go out there, make friends and stop being a weak man

Back to football, Okocha influence to our national team can't be compared to Mikel and we still lose some games with him..

TheSuperNerd:
Your shades are as weak as your dollopheadedness... So you still insisted on being such an ass right? Well congratulations then dollophead.

And your statement was so ambiguous because you didn't even construct it well enough. In a rush to pass a point, you dropped ambiguity and expect me to clean up your mess of a comment. How shallow. Next time, be more explicit instead of hiding behind your ambiguity.

Now listen again... Your question @second bolded shows you are so ignorant about what this team's major problem is. We don't f**king create enough chances in the absence of Mikel Obi. And when you don't create... You can lose games. Tu comprends?

Just look at your funny question... Does it not reek of gross ignorance for you to ask why Mikel's absence is also part of why we lost? Smh.... Some monikers here are really lost.

I'm not actually here for English essay, I'm here to talk football, you can't hide your confusion behind your English lecture

Mujtahida:
In this instance there is no double standard. We are not measuring accurately if you want to use the performance of Shehu in matches he was fully fit to compare with Ebuehi in a match Ebuehi was not fully fit. Drawing your attention to that has now become double standard? How? Tbaba1234 calls it false equivalency.

Compare a fit Shehu with a fit Ebuehi. Whoever comes on top takes the spot. Not that for the sake of critiquing the boy you totally overlook his fitness issues. That's why I said that one can say he underperformed but if that person ignores his fitness issues then I don't think that's balanced criticism.

If the boy was fully fit and his performance was below par then you can talk of double standards. You are still overlooking a crucial point which is that he lacked full fitness. Yes, He played for 90 minutes. How does that change the fact that he lacked full fitness? Who would have subbed him? Shehu who had injury? Aina who was already subbed for Idowu? I like looking at things from broad angles.

This can easily be misread as defence of the young man but to close one's eyes to the glaring fact that he was not fully fit is to level criticism that - in my opinion - is unfair.

He didn't play well. He was not fully fit. That is balanced criticism in the context of the match.

Are you super eagles team doctor, Ebuehi was passed fit for the Poland game and even played for 20 min or so, you all including me praised him for doing things Shehu was not doing, we all clamour for Rohr to give him more chance, the chance came and you all are saying he was not fit

How about us making case for shehu, maybe he was not 100% fit too that's why he could not complete the game and was struggling with the pace of the game. nobody is a sacred cow

somehow:
My bad, i thought they didn't qualify, i apologize for that.

Meaning if we meet them in the WC proper, we might still get beaten?

My guy football is not mathematics, we might whoop them if we get to meet them in world cup

jerryclinton:
There's no need beating about the bush. This is the players that will be selected as our world Cup team:
1. Uzoho
2.Ezenwa
3. Akpeyi
4. Shehu
5. Ola Aina
6. Ebuehi
7. Idowu
8. Echiejile
9. Balogun
10. Ekong
11. Omeruo
12. Ndidi
13. Mikel
14. Etebo
15. Onazi
16. Ogu
17. Iwobi
18. Iheanacho
19. V. moses
20. Ighalo
21. Musa
22. Onyekuru
23. S. Moses.

we can't go to a tournament Iike WC with 3CB even with the fact that we might try our 3-5-2 formation, Awasiem will be in Russia, his Rohr 3rd choice even though I know Omeruo is better, Awasiem will come in for Aina or Echiejile.

Onyekuru spot could be taken by anybody which include him, though I will love to see the tall guy in Holland

TheSuperNerd:
Listen up... When next you quote me. Never address me with the bolded aiit. Coz if I do same to you, you will cry foul.

And I addressed a simple comment you made. You said Mikel's influence in this current team is not up to Okocha's in his own time. And I simply gave you an instance to show his influence.

The cult figure Okocha was in Hus days as the team's boss is exactly the same as Mikel's today. Even at the Olympics we saw it in another dimension. So what are you even saying? As if We never lost games too with Okocha.

Okocha in 1994 was benched too Mister. Go figure. He was not the overriding factor or among the top three super class factors in that nations Cup win.

But Mikel in 2013 was lord of that Nigerian side. #Fact

You see what I'm saying, your argument is like Musa sometimes, running past the ball, I said Okocha was even more influential but we still lost games with him, why are you reminding me what I told you earlier.

Even Rohr confirm that you can't compare Mikel influence to game like Okocha and kanu, and we still lost games, why then should we blame Mikel absent for our lost games

somehow:
They are common to me and football is logic. it's science and has gone beyond emotion. you can beat the best on paper if you have a better scientific approach to the match. a pack of sheep led by a lion can defeat the reverse.

We have seen countries/clubs with less quality players winning tournaments and they aren't one off, this happen yearly all over the world. so there is nothing uncommon here.

Football is not illogical if you say it's not logic.

you are just contradicting your self, I said foot ball is not logic and you said is logic, maybe you don't know the meaning of logic, if Morocco can beat Serbia 2-1 And we lost to Serbia 2-0... that means we will lose to Morocco 3-0 or 4-1.

every game is different, so many factors can affect a game, Germany defeating Brazil at maracana defeat logic, always argue with direction my dear friend, and don't forget Serbia team is not common