Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 5:42pm On Apr 09, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Awaziem was a sure starter before his injury... Awaziem has started 14 matches out of 32 league matches. how many months was Awaziem out? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 5:21pm On Apr 09, 2018 |
edi287: Played more as a CB. Everything most not be argument, Awaziem is not a sure starter in Nantes, the last match he played for Nantes was over a month ago, he played left back against Marseille and played Right back against Toulouse. though is versatility is an advantage but he look very much raw and unfinished product |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 5:11pm On Apr 09, 2018 |
Loogan: I personally think a lot of you guys don't like umar bcoz of the olympics performance, he had a good competition but it seems the myopic lots expected him to give what he didn't have yet, but one thing was sure while ajayi and awoniyi were racking up appearances in thier clubs, umar came from the Roma bench and was chosen has the first team striker for rio, that should show you he's special so I don't know how awoniyi is better. Quick question how many matches had iheanacho played for man city before he was regarded as one of the best young strikers in Europe? It took a season with alot of goals from the bench. Imo umar is faster than awoniyi!!! Then I said the seria a is a difficult league with a lot experienced players and there are lots of examples of young players who struggled at a young age in the league and there are also those who made it at a young age like you listed. Firstly,you have no right to call anyone myopic, you could not even make a clear point on your argument with a lengthy write up, Umar selection in the Olympic don't prove his the best, every coach can make there choice with alot of factors which are not footballing coming into place. secondly I never said Umar did bad in the Olympic, the whole team had a good outing with a bronze medal to prove. bringing iheanacho who is way ahead of him is what I don't understand, you said it took a season with goals from the bench before he was regarded as one of the best young stars, abeg they glue Umar ass ads to the bench in Roma? why can't he also go in score just like iheanacho. Lastly you said Umar is faster than Awoniyi, I will leave that for your conscience to judge you |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 3:02pm On Apr 09, 2018 |
edi287: Awaziem and Ekong aren't a good pairing. But to say he's overrated is stretching it. He's been playing well in Ligue un. Maybe Omeruo has been performing better in Turkey as I haven't watched him play before. Awaziem is like a utility man for Nantes, always been shifted left or right back, is not a sure starter in CB for nantes |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:56pm On Apr 09, 2018 |
edi287: Ramsey can not dictate play from deep like Jorginho, Kroos, Alonso, etc. It would've been criminal to pair Ramsey - Coquelin. The few times we did, it was Koscienly that was bringing the ball out from deep You said arsenal bought xhaka because Ramsey is not good in dictating play, bros not true, Xhaka is played because his more physical and help shield the defence better than Ramsey. In all attacking sense, dictating play, goal sense and even pass accuracy Ramsey is better |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:46pm On Apr 09, 2018 |
edi287: Actually from a tactical perspective, playing Ramsey on the right was not a bad idea at that time. It was the real season that Coq - Santi pivot was successful. It also brought balance to the side. With Arteta being injured, it was impossible to play Ramsey as a CM because Coquelin isn't good at building up play and neither is Ramsey himself. That was one of the reasons Xhaka was bought. The club have always known Ramsey stats i.e covering ground, etc was crazy. Was enjoying your writeup until I read "Ramsey cannot build up play" really?? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:43pm On Apr 09, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: That WAS at club level. I can't remember a single high profile error he had for Nigeria. So the Ambrose in club is different from the Ambrose in country? if Ambrose joins the team he won't be the 3rd choice rather the 4th choice CB, why keep Ambrose on the bench when a young Awaziem need the exposure for future. At his best he was never trusted to play the CB position in Gwg, always played in the RB position |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:38pm On Apr 09, 2018 |
goldfish80: Suarez was nothing more than an interesting upcoming player while at Ajax. He became a force and came into his full element while at Liverpool. Ajax was just a starting point for him. It's just like saying C Ronaldo was world class at Sporting Lisbon.
Youre being economical with the truth or of the hand ignorant if you believe Sturridge blossomed before Liverpool. This was a kid who couldn't find his feet at Chelsea and Man city. He hardly kicked a ball in anger at both clubs until his career turn around at Liverpool where himself, Sterling and Suarez formed a dynamic attacking trident who nearly won the league. This unraveled before our very own eyes, but somehow to suit a narrative, you want to twist facts.
Did Salah work with Klopp, Guardiola or Simione while at Roma where he contributed something like 18 goals and 14 assists? A number Moses have failed to hit at any point in his professional career. I agree with all you said but Suarez at Ajax was not = ronaldo at sporting Lisbon, Suarez was ajax captain and score 35 goals in 33 goals in his last season and a total of 81 goals in 110 appearances before leaving for Liverpool |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:28pm On Apr 09, 2018 |
forgiveness: As at today, Salah is miles better than Victor Moses and he could be crowned the best player in the world if Liverpool wins the UEFA Champions League or reaches the finals.
But before now Victor Moses was better and popular. That is my point. You are just been patriotic, the fact that Moses started his career in England where you see him everyday and salah was at switzerland does not make him better before maybe popular but not better |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:18pm On Apr 09, 2018 |
Kog45: I will never picked him ahead of Omeruo,him and Ekong lacks the experience as CB and their pairings always backfire, so better to pair Ekong and Omeruo or Awaziem and Balogun in case Balogun and Ekong pairing is not available for selection. I think it should be Omeruo pairing with either Ekong and Balogun, if either of them is not available. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:11pm On Apr 09, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: I still back Efe Ambrose to shine if given the opportunity. too error prone |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 11:36am On Apr 09, 2018 |
Icon4s: Awaziem is Over-rated in my opinion.
This was a player that was once tagged our best CB on this thread. That was even before he got invited. Na so we no hear word about Mikel Agu here. Las-las we have seen what he can offer.
Hyping of players on this thread is too much abeg.
They have started hyping Samuel Kalu now. We dey watch. Bros I agree with what you said but not the Kalu statement, in as much as I dont believe he will make the worldcup team because of his position is all taken but his a very good player and soon will get his chance |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 11:30am On Apr 09, 2018 |
goldfish80: Omeruo was the best rated of all the 5 Nigerians on the pitch in the Buraspor Vs Kasimpassa game last night. The Ekong/ Awaziem forced partnership must stop if Rohr knows what he's doing. Omerou should be our 3rd choice CB, he plays every week, while AwaZiem is not a sure starter in his club, Omeruo is also better experience than him. we dont have the luxury of players with worldcup experience. Maybe Rohr likes AwaZiem because of the Nantes connection |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 11:16am On Apr 09, 2018 |
Loogan: You are the one saying thier yardstick to comparing them both is flawed but yours is worse! You should not judge quality based on how many matches played some players are naturally gifted. Willian had played alot of matches won trophies but if they tell you to choose between him and Asensio who I'm not sure has racked his 50app who would you choose? There is levels to this game. I love them both but cmon don't you k 1. umar is better than awoniyi on the air not just because he's taller but It's a proven strong point of umar amoury, his first serial a game for Roma at age 19 was a nice well placed header, the coach who gave him his break in the first team got sacked and since then he went on loan to bologna where injuries and lack of play time saw his game stall. The seria a is not a league for youngsters it's more experienced players. He had a wonderful preseason at Roma and was sent to be the second striker to Italy's first choice striker, he had limited game time but he still played but did not score, now he's in the edisevere where awoniyi actually struggled. 2. Umar is more direct, more skillful, more unpredictable and faster. 3. Awoniyi is the better team player and works his socks off for the team. Both of them are good at hold up plays. I want you to watch these two players without sentiment, if you are a real football lover it's not hard to identify who the better talent is. As regards to umar lack of game time, he has played in an Olympic competition against the very bests in the world as the top striker for us, scored and won a bronze medal trust me that exposure and experience has improved him drastically. He has 4goals and 3assits in 8games where he didn't start all Bros I read all what you wrote and is difficult to pin point how Umar is better, how can you say Umar is faster than Awoniyi? big lie, Awoniyi is a beast I am not judging quality by how many matches played, They are both young, umar is alittle bit older, when I said Awoniyi played has played more matches(61 matches in European football) it means he has more exposure and can be trusted in GWG. Umar has been in Europe since 2013, played for spezia,lavagnese,Roma, bologna,you Torino and now Nac breda and can only boast of 18( 5 coning this season at Nac)matches at 21 years that's no progression. And who told you young players don't succed in Seria A 1. Frank kessie - 21years ( a.c. Milan)....one of the best midfilders in Seria A 2. donnarumma -19 years( a.c. milan) ..been first choice keeper since 3 or 2 years now 3. Joel obi - at 21 was playing for inter already 4.Cengiz under - 20years( roma) arguably Roma best player this season I don't see were Umar holds advantage over Awoniyi |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 6:29am On Apr 09, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Umar at this point is better but Awoniyi is coming up nicely Can you give me reasons why Umar is better, 1.awoniyi already have double digit goals this season. 2. Awoniyi is better on air 3. more first team appearance= more exposure |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 6:16am On Apr 09, 2018 |
elyte89: Ehen!....what did I say,I said barely,na English I talk na,we re still saying d same thing  So you really didn't understand what I wrote, he played the last 4 matches and even started 2 and you say he rarely play...do you know the meaning of rarely? ask Agbo he will explain to you better |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 6:08am On Apr 09, 2018 |
bengine: I hope you know Awoniyi and Junior Ajayi were the top strikers b4 the Olympics for the U23...Awoniyi was dropped from the squad because of umar, Ajayi also lost his starting spot to Umar...
Bro you have been watching football for a while, by now you should be able to identify and dinstiguish serious talent..sometimes a player could be a late boomer and outdo his mate in the future...based on watching awoniyi and Sadiq, I can tell you sadiq is better quality to Awoniyi...I followed Awoniyi through the u17 days to the u20 and I was his fan boy...I was even initially angry that siasia would drop awoniyi in that Olympic team..it was when the tournament started i just had to accept Sadiq was better ..
Well time would tell as both their professional career unfolds..I really do have high expectations for both of them.. Using only that yardstick is very wrong, A coach can drop anybody |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 5:59am On Apr 09, 2018 |
bengine: Awoniyi is not better than Umar ooo..I use to be a big fan of Awoniyi but the reality is Umar is better than him..Awoniyi might be in form but he is not in the class of Umar except he drastically improves.. Umar is better in what aspect? be objective |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 5:58am On Apr 09, 2018 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 5:51am On Apr 09, 2018 |
elyte89: Baba forget all dis "AHEAD OF A THING", WHo told u one player is ahead of one,we started dis crap here.
Ogu DT barely play games in Gwg set up,u re claiming he's ahead of someone  Ogu that barely play games for Gwg? when last did you watch our games, Ogu played the last 4 matches and started 2 of those |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 5:47am On Apr 09, 2018 |
forgiveness: I know Lukaku in Belgium before he came to Chelsea. He already made name for himself and when he played I knew he was good but Salah was nobody when he came to Chelsea.
Salah was out of place when he played for Chelsea. Not Impressive salah was already playing champions league football with Basel before he came to chelsea |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 5:44am On Apr 09, 2018 |
Farzat: Nobody can argue that bro But i vindicated myself when i said except for a special talent. So any player u can mention falls into that category lol. Meanwhile I mentioned Serbia as one of d teams that is parading matured players not really because we lost to them. However, l can argue that if we had to play Serbia again with d same squad, they will beat us over and over again. so should we drop iwobi, iheanacho,Ndidi and co ? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 5:36am On Apr 09, 2018 |
Danielnino00: My 35-man world cup preliminary squad list ..
* - very certain to make the last 23 **- possibly make the last 23 but not certain ***- might make the last 23 but with slim chances
Goalkeepers(5)
Uzoho* Ezenwa* Akpeyi** Alampasu*** Ajiboye/Ejide/Aiyenubga
Defenders(10)
Balogun* Ekong* Awazeim* Omeruo** Ebuehi* Idowu* Shehu* Aina** Echijele** Eze/Ambrose
Midfielders(10)
Mikel* Ndidi* Onazi* Etebo* Ogu** Joel Obi** Agu*** Ajagun Aluko Agbo***
Forwards(10) Moses* Musa* Iwobi* Iheanacho* Ighalo* Simeon* Kayode** Dessers /Umar*** Onyekuru** Kalu***
But I believe the 35 man list will b just formality sake... Most of us already know the final squad by heart ... It would b good if Rohr use the DR Congo friendly to try out some fringe players before including them in the 35 man list.. or just use the friendly to cut down the list to 30. Either way,he should give the new invitees a chance..he should stop this Uche Agbo treatment abeg.. Ogu is ahead of Etebo |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 5:29am On Apr 09, 2018 |
Humility017: and Ighalo and ideye can both pass the ball better than the midfielders we currently have...? Aside mikel....we can as well try iwobi there once more...he tried with his passes against the serbians... the problem mainly was Ighalo positioning...and iwobi wasn't used to the role yet.... apart from iwobi....it won't be bad if someone like aluko can be tried....kelechi nwakali can come in after the world cup...
definetely not ideye and Ighalo...I don't see them as better passer of the ball.... why we they find wetin no lose, iwobi is obviously an AM, if Wenger can trust him there why can't we. because he had a suppose bad game against Serbia don't make him bad in that position |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 5:23am On Apr 09, 2018 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 5:19am On Apr 09, 2018 |
tbaba1234: See Iwobi impact from the middle for Arsenal, involved in both goals iwobi was trained to be an AM, lot of quality in arsenal midfield always make he shift wide, I said this last month and some people wanted to fight me |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 5:17am On Apr 09, 2018 |
komekn: Chuba has been a dissapointment promised so much but delivered so little. He couldn't make the transition from youth football to the senior game.
Had so many opportunities but has never delivered now he has gone to lower European leagues and hasn't done much.
He is far off from SE quality. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 11:50am On Apr 08, 2018 |
Mujtahida: Please don't provoke me ooo. What is this sacrilege you just wrote? Oliseh not good in passing?
Oliseh was a master of telegraphic, long range passes. He fed Yekini so many through passes.
I remember then way back when I was still in junior secondary school, I read in complete sports or so when Oliseh was playing in Juventus (I am not sure now but I know it was when he was in Italy) the coach said the reason he loved Oliseh was that he doesn't just kick the ball, he passes it.
No provoke me ooo
TheSuperNerd abeg help me with that man wedding baton meme. This guy de vex me You dont get it, oliseh was not that wonderful with warrant that meme, I never said Oliseh Oliver is not a good passer, no be everything be quarrel |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 11:07am On Apr 08, 2018 |
isan: How true is this?? Oliseh was not that wonderful in passing |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 12:32am On Apr 08, 2018 |
bengine: Nothing to be offended for sir, you are only expressing your opinion...Ideye doesn't have Umars dynamism and unpredictability..they both have poor finishing in common...I doubt ideye has anything to offer this team..his hold up play and linkage is already being offered by Ighalo...
As it stands, Rohr wants to use Musa has our third striker but that doesn't stop him from playing him on the wing..all this guys we are clamouring for might not make the 23man list..I really don't want Musa has our third striker,. Musa HAS ok |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 1:26pm On Apr 07, 2018 |
Truidstar: Good you mentioned the German Team. They are one of the favorites for the world cup but how many of their players are ranked in the top 10 in the world? They no longer produce super stars. They have evolved to become efficient, ruthless and tireless workers. My point is Rohr has a young team, let's trust this team. The Germans started a project in 2006 and won the world cup in 2014. That means you didn't understand my long writeup, the Germans started there wonderful project in 2006 but they had ballack, Oliver Kahn and Jens Lehman. The German project was not about the players but the system, the german have a way they play and maintain on that way, even there youth system play that same way. The German project was not about building a young side or neglecting the older player. This should be easy to understand, now back to Nigeria, if Ejide or/and Aiyenugba is called back and after the tournament they retire nothing will happen, Uzoho can carryon with Afcon and start building up from there. Uzoho will not stand the pressure of playing in a worldcup stadium, that worldcup could actually break him and his wonderful career. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:15am On Apr 07, 2018 |
andrew444: That is the reason the chinese spend money for players....The chinese players are crap and we know it,even the zambia national team is rated higher than the chinese team...But mind you the chinese league has many world class players over there. world class coaches too, some guys think is easier for players in the Chinese league, is even more tasking, in the Chinese league 3 foreign players are allowed in the match day squad, so players like Mikel will be attempting assist for some crappy players, and the likes of hulk and Pato will be expecting to get assist from some flat footed players |