Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:08am On Apr 07, 2018 |
koxyz: This your comment get k leg,it speaks volume about your mind set. I have nothing against him, I'm just making you guys underatand how powerful some agent are. A.c Milan signed Borini after relegation with Sunderland |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:04am On Apr 07, 2018 |
Truidstar: Reading posts from yesterday. I respect everyone's opinion and think everyone is entitled to have his/her own opinion. Just want to raise some issues with some names being bandied here. Austin Ejide: Say we take him to the world cup, what is the long term gain? Is he still going to be around in 2-3 years time?
Dele Aiyenugba: Active in the Israeli first division for years now. We take him to the world cup. What happens after? Is he still as good as he was when himself and Enyeama were at their peak? History has taught us from Rufai in France 98.
Uzoho: Am a staunch supporter. Is he ready based on what we have seen? I have my doubts. But an Uzoho at the world cup will grow in confidence into his role. Do we have the luxury to tolerate his errors has he grows into his role? An Uzoho in 4 years time if he fulfills his potential will be an absolute beast between the sticks.
Aluko: Granted he has been overlooked. He is 29 now. He comes into the AMF role. After the world cup what's next? Can we rely on him in 4 years time? He will be 33 by then, planning to retire.
Kayode: Skillful a good goal poacher on his day. Leaving Austria Wien was a big error. Should have remained in Austria knowing the World cup is around the corner. Man city should have loaned him back to Austria Wien. He is at Shaktar now, think time is too short for him to make an appreciable impact.
Ajagun: Did well in Greece before moving to Belgium. The question is what does he have to offer that we don't already have. If he is indeed 25, Age is on his side, his chance will come if he misses this train.
It is only human for us to show concern and sometimes panic. But let us trust Rohr. He knows what he is doing. We should support our team irrespective of who gets selected.
An aside: Was at a burial yesterday, knows someone that knows someone that has heard and knows someone.....Its like Uduokhai is in the bag.
And ......yeah.....CYRIL DESSERS!!!!!!! Your post is filled with after worldcup what next, the worldcup is not the planning time but executing time, any player can retire after playing the worldcup.infact to me is the best time to retire The German team that won the last worldcup is very different from the one that won the confederations cup and also favourite for the 2018 worldcup, there is no more klose, lahm, schweinsteiger,Lucas Podolski and mertasacker, and some regular in the last worldcup are not there anymore Gotze( who might not make the team), schurle and Mario Gomez. sorry I'm using the gemern team too much as an example, but in 2006 worldcup they had jens Lehman(36years) as No1 and Oliver kahn(36years) as No2, you really have to be wonderful at a young age to be trusted with goal keeping responsibility. Ejide, Aiyenugba and even Mikel can retire if they want if we make the worldcup semi final, we sure have time to regroup and have a good team again, the core of the team is very young, I just hope Rohr know the worldcup is not the competition of who has the youngest team. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 9:23am On Apr 07, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Ideye did not make the Malaga team for the third time in a row.. He is not injured.. ideye will get another top team after Malaga relegation, his agent is doing the magic |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 9:20am On Apr 07, 2018 |
komekn: Just to make sure I get your view in context.
Essentially you are saying that there are players who left Seria A and basically ripped the EPL and became outstanding that means in the top 5 of players performance for thier particular position.
Please just name 5 players thats all not a multitude to prove your point.
I will in turn name 10 players.
This is to educate ourselves no animosity or hostility. let me help him 1. Kanu 2. Zola 3. Henry 4.veira 5. Paolo di canio this players lighted up the premier league |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 8:59am On Apr 07, 2018 |
edi287: Why is Oliseh fighting to remain as coach though?? He should just take the compensation and leave. Those guys sound ungrateful his fighting to be the coach because of his CV, he already got them promotion |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 8:56am On Apr 07, 2018 |
komekn: No, no, no definitely not unless you have some indicative statistics to show quality and potential. Thers is no agent that can take you from nowhere to the top in a top club. Ideye is a perfect example, webrom signed him without even watching him play and he flopped but yet again he got another deal with olympiakos, and yet again when the China market was booming he got a mega offer from China were he flopped and guess what he resurface in Malaga Having a good Agent in football is like using fertilizer in farming, there is always better players that don't get that chance. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:55pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:55pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:53pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
forgiveness: If you are not sensible enough to understand 'Martins is better than Ighalo and Kelechi' then how can you be sensible enough to make sane argument?
Oga, commot for my front make I see road, abeg. Martins is part of your legendary family I guess, oga martins is injured, if you can't accept that then I cant help you |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 6:16pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
forgiveness: Let me boast a little.
I don't think as a boy who grew up in a family that boast of the first Professor of Medcine, the first Nigerian to earn BA degree abroad as an external student in Nigeria, first Nigerian to open an Indigenous Bank in Nigeria etc is interested or believes in Federal character but I am humble and despite no one.
I haven't even said anything. nobody ask you for your family profile, if you like be the first man on earth it won't make your dumb argument sensible |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 6:13pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
forgiveness: Typical Nigerian, never agree he is wrong.
As you wish others, may God treat you likewise in double folds. bro you got nothing else to say, just shut it |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 3:26pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
forgiveness: Does it change the fact that it was after preseason? Save the excuse for another day, maybe 2moro you will tell me he failed in shakhter because he moved mid season |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 3:24pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
Joebie: possibly.. or he may flop.. so he is now better than any striker who plays in any club UEFA rates below Shaktar? Is not about rating, any player can get any team if you have a good Agent ask ideye |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 3:02pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
bengine: Yes he had a good game against arsenal...but those things he lacks don't make ppl appreciate the effort he puts in...he almost ran himself to the ground in that game..if he had a good finishing, he could have scored at least 2goals against arsenal.. The problem with Nigerian players is that we rarely improve, musa could have worked on his finish and footwork and Sadiq can improve his physique, they are all comfortable to be mediocre |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 3:00pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
Joebie: Put those rankings in your trash. It doesn't always add up. Today Nigeria is ranked below 40 in the world. Can u beat your chest and say all the teams above us in the rankings will beat us. Similarly you cannot say a player is better than another just only because of the league they play. Put those rankings in the trash. While rankings can be a good reference point sometimes, but it does not hold most times in reality. Would Kayode even manage to score a goal in Serie A? -- Let me use ur overplayed logic, what was Kayode doing at age 19? You never can tell, he might be perfect in Seria A |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:55pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
forgiveness: I think Kayode joined the team after preseason.
Stuanti dey score goals left right and center though. kayode joined August, |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:52pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
forgiveness: Did you watch any of those matches? Answer yes or no. I actually watch Girona vs Deportivo, me watching it does not change the fact that he scored no goals for Girona in 12 matches Ighalo has scored 16 goals in 30 matches since he moved to China, oga forgiveness did you watch any of the match? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:49pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
forgiveness: Did you read to understand? there is nothing difficult to understand there, MARTINS WAS TWICE BETTER THAN IGHALO AND IHEANACHO WHEN HE WAS THERE AGE and I said thank God you realise he WAS. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:44pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
somehow: You never can tell, maybe his luck will shine there. I'm a Nigerian and I love to see Nigeria player do well, so I wish he get playing time, but then again our player find it difficult making good choice |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:43pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
forgiveness: Coaches love having quality back ups. That is not the point, he will spend more time in the bench |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:27pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
forgiveness: Oga, Martins is currently a better player than Odion Ighalo and Kelechi Iheanacho.
At their age, he was better than both combined and even now he's better. Facts Thank God you used past tense, he WAS |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:26pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
forgiveness: Let me help you since you don't know. Kayode didn't play as a striker in most of the games he played for.
So, please, don't pass wrong information that he was given a lot of opportunities.
Besides, he was not benched because he didn't perform or scored goals but it was because the main striker was scoring goals.
Even though Kayode got two assists and MOTM in a match he was benched in the next match. Can you explain the reason for that?
Umar and Dessers will not even smell bench, then how can dey score goals?
How can dey win MOTM?
How many goals did Umar score in a Sergio_A which is lesser than la Liga with all the chances he had?
Dessers is struggling to start in Eredivise, na la Liga em go come start?
This is subjective analysis I am seeing here. Bros your analysis no get head, players less than Umar and dessers are in laliga, even imoh Ezekiel was sign for las palmas and is getting play time. there are even worst players in premiership |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:12pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
forgiveness: Did you watch him play that you concluded he didn't do well? he scored zero goals in 12 matches |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:11pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
somehow: More to do with the choice of player the coaches went for, they actually didn't give him space or enough to hit the ground rolling, now that hes gone to Ukraine, lets see what he can do. If what you said about Girona is anything to go by then he will also fail in shakhtar because they are scoring already before he was signed and there C.F. facunda ferreyra has 19 goals in 24 matches. And there style of play wont accommodate them both, but you never can tell |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:06pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
somehow: In the context i spoke about him, he cant do what i would have wanted him in the SE for which is to deputise Ighalo. he cant hold up play like you already affirmed. he's also not with the presence of a fearsome CF like Lewandoski, Martins, Ighalo, Ibrahimovic, Suarez, Aguero etc... once again I dont like kayode that much but the reason for option is not to have like for like, Giroud is different from lacazette, higuen is different from aguero, Having another striker like Ighalo won't help us I believe |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 2:01pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
somehow: Yea, before he came they were scoring, so they surely didnt see sense in benching Stuanii for him, so they played him out of "position"?
I even heard from "forgiveness" that they deliberately didn't pay to him during play  not true bro, they bought him in the summer with a Uruguay striker Christian Stuani, they both started the season together, maybe he was unlucky to have a very good competitor, the dude already have 17 goals in 25 matches |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 8:18am On Apr 06, 2018 |
zuchyblink: we are talking about doing well in the world Cup and not flaunting ego how can we do well with a player that don't identify with us, since Nedum believe his more white than Balogun then let him be |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 8:05am On Apr 06, 2018 |
zuchyblink: Our young talents are good but world Cup stage is too big for them. They need more experienced guys to guide them. Nedum has played consistently in England for over a decade and Aiyenugba 's experience will come in handy Nedum refuse Nigeria when he was in his peak, we don't need him now, I prefer Eze to him. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 8:01am On Apr 06, 2018 |
tbaba1234: My 35 man team
Gks Uzoho Ezenwa Aiyenugba Akpeyi Alampasu/Okoye/Enyeama
Defenders Balogun Ekong Shehu Idowu Ebuehi Aina Awaziem Omeruo Elderson
Midfielders Mikel Onazi Ndidi Joel Obi Ogu Etebo Agbo Agu Ebere Eze
Strikers Iheanacho Iwobi Ighalo Musa V.Moses S.Moses Ideye Kayode Onyekuru Bazee Dessers Osimhen Sir the 35 man list don't look balance, taking 9 defenders and just 4 CB is not balance enough, what any of the CB get injured, Eze will make the list and maybe another player |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 7:45am On Apr 06, 2018 |
zuchyblink: Rohr should pls invite Nedum onuoha and aiyenugba Nedum don't deserve the call up |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 7:41am On Apr 06, 2018 |
tbaba1234: What exactly is this "he falls down a lot"? Kanu Nwankwo fell down a lot, he did not make him a bad player....
The weekend will soon be here, i hope some take the time out to watch some games..
Let us be clear, I am not clamoring for Umar to join the team now or even make the WC list but he is in fine form and has improved drastically. Kanu you mentioned is way better than Umar and Kanu wouldn't get some deal he got back then now, football has evolved |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 7:38am On Apr 06, 2018 |
tbaba1234: For the kind of team, Kayode played for, he should have had more games. He had a lot of opportunities but for a striker, if you are not scoring, you will be benched.
I think, Dessers and Umar could have at least gotten one goal if given the number of games Kayode had. Spot on, Girona is one of the highest scoring side in laliga bar real madrid and Barcelona |