That your only backing for the error is that many scholars erred too is not convincing. Please, prove that the act of supplicating for oneself at the graveside of puis deceased ones is

1. sanctioned by Rasul صلى الله عليه و سلم, and/or that the hadith's forbidding the act are invalid.

2. practiced by the companions رضي الله عنهم.

3. not warned against by any sound scholar.

AlBaqir:



You meant like this "INSANE KAFIR" who used to pray AT THE GRAVE, below:


# Imam Ibn Hibban, one of your Ahlu Sunnah very best scholars of all time is revealed below:


# Al-Hafidh Ibn Hibban

Ibn Hibban (rah) relates his own account of going to Al-Ridha’s (rah) grave, performing Tawassul through him and states that whenever “I was afflicted with a problem during my stay in Tus, I would visit the grave of Ali bin Musa ar-Ridho (Allah (SWT)’s blessings be upon his grandfather and him) and ask Allah (SWT) to relieve me of that problem and it (my dua) would be answered and the problem alleviated. And this is something I did, and found to work, many times


Source: [Ibn Hibban, Kitab uth-Thiqat Volume 008, Page No. 456-7, #14411]


Of course, Imam Ibn Hibban was not the only Sunni Allamah that used to visit and pray at grave yard. We've exposed lots of them here:


https://www.nairaland.com/4402166/ziyarat-haram-imam-ali-al-ridha



# Praying towards the grave (that is making it Qibla) or making the dead in the grave as "god" is what we believe to be kufr.

# Praying for the dead (especially the Prophets, the righteous, and the Shuhada whom Quran says are alive), and making them as wasila (means) to request from Allah, absolutely there is nothing wrong with it.

[quote author=saintvc post=67448391]Saudi Arabia? mtchreew[/quote

No oo, ikot ekpene. Mumu..

prechbills1:


shut up and read the post again.. the bitch called him a drunk and a thief first

But the guy did not bring the case to court. See?

Tejumola : Stares at affluence... wos wobi wobi!

Adenose: Noses about..... fimu finle

Jalekun: Breaks the door...... jalekun


The thieving troika... Aro meta ti kii d'obe e nu.

Quite allegorical.

The first form of literacy and numeracy in Nigeria is in Arabic. The Northerners joined the western education fray slower and later, but they were the first of all to read and write in Arabic. Fulfulde and Hausa (written in Arabic ligature), the first Nigerians in Northern African universities predating the advent of western education and Nigeria's colonists........ I would expand more, but, for wetin?

I am given to discouraging all this gloating over the 'backwardness' of OTHERS while priding in the achievement of OTHERS.

......breathing easy, minding my mind.

Viergeachar:
The more reason PMB should stay back in London.

News of the stocks doing good may not be unconnected to news of PMB's bettering health.

Many people are mistaken about the issue of du’aa’ in many ways. With regard to your question we want to point out two mistakes:

1 – You think that du’aa’ is answered just because you say du’aa’. This is wrong, because there are conditions for du’aa’s to be answered and there are impediments which prevent it from being answered.

For a detailed discussion concerning this matter, please see the answer to question no.(https://islamqa.info/en/5113)

In that discussion you will see that one of the impediments to du’aa’ being answered in your case is your being impatient and getting frustrated.

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “A person will still be answered so long as his du’aa’ does not involve sin or severing ties of kinship, and so long as he does not become impatient.” It was said: O Messenger of Allaah, what does being impatient mean? He said: “Saying, I said du’aa’, and I said du’aa’, and I did not receive any response, then he becomes frustrated and stops saying du’aa’.” Narrated by Muslim (2735).

2 – You think that the response can only be of one kind, which is getting what you asked for in du’aa’ such as wealth, children, a job and so on. This is wrong, because the response may be of three types: it may be by getting what one asked for in du’aa’, or it may be that evil commensurate with one’s du’aa’ is warded off, or that may be stored up for one as reward for the Day of Resurrection.

It was narrated from Abu Sa’eed that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There is no Muslim who does not offer any du’aa’ in which there is no sin or severing of family ties but Allaah will give him one of three things in return: either He will answer his du’aa’ sooner, or he will store it up for him in the Hereafter, or He will divert an equivalent evil away from him because of it.” They said: “We will say a lot of du’aa’.” He said: “Allaah is more generous.” Narrated by Ahmad (10749), classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Targheeb wa’l-Tarheeb (1633).


If a Muslim is falling short in his worship and obedience, that should make him feel that he is not worthy of having his du’aa’ answered, and perhaps that will motivate him to do more acts of worship and obedience that will bring him closer to Allaah. If the caller believes that he has done that which Allaah loves and is pleased with, and that he deserves an answer, that will make him think badly of his Lord, may He be exalted, and will make him feel let down and begin to despair, until he wishes that he could escape from life by committing suicide. All of that, unfortunately, we can see in your words.

This is unlike the one who is aware of his shortcomings before his Lord. This will make him think badly of himself, not of his Lord, may He be glorified and exalted, and that will motivate him to keep away from forbidden things and do obligatory things, and to follow the path of piety, and to avoid overindulging in permissible things which may distract him from obeying his Lord.

Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: It was narrated that ‘Umar Ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: By avoiding that which Allaah has forbidden, Allaah will accept du’aa’ and tasbeeh. And it was narrated that Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The amount of du’aa’ with righteousness that is sufficient is like the amount of salt that is sufficient with food.” And Muhammad ibn Waasi’ said: A little du’aa’ is sufficient with piety.

One of the salaf said: Do not expect a response when you have blocked the way with sins. One of the poets also commented on this by saying:

We call upon Allaah for every hardship, then we forget Him when the hardship is relieved.

How can we hope for an answer to our du’aa’s, when we have blocked its way with sins?

Jaami’ al-‘Uloom wa’l-Hukam (1/107, 108).

Al-Qurtubi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

It was said to Ibraaheem ibn Adham: Why is it that we supplicate and receive no response?

He said because you know Allaah but you do not obey Him, and you know the Messenger but you do not follow his Sunnah, and you know the Qur’aan but you do not act in accordance with it, and you eat from the blessings of Allaah but you do not give thanks for them, and you know Paradise but you do not seek it, and you know Hell but you do not flee from it, and you know the shaytaan but you do not fight him rather you agree with him, and you know death but you do not prepare for it, and you have buried the dead but you do not learn a lesson from that, and you ignore your own faults and are preoccupied with other people’s faults.

Tafseer al-Qurtubi (2/312).

Study this brilliant passage from the writings of Ibn al-Jawzi concerning this matter. He (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

I think part of the test is when a believer supplicates and receives no response, and he repeats the du’aa’ for a long time and sees no sign of a response. He should realize that this is a test and needs patience.

What a person experiences of waswaas when the response is delayed is a sickness which needs medicine, I have experienced this myself. A calamity befell me and I supplicated and did not see any response, and Iblees started to lay his traps. Sometimes he said : The generosity (of Allaah) is abundant and He is not miserly, so why is there a delay?

I said to him: Be gone, O cursed one, for I have no need of anyone to argue my case and I do not want you as a supporter!

Then I told myself: Beware of going along with his whispers, for if there was no other reason for the delay except that Allaah is testing you to see whether you will fight the enemy, that is sufficient wisdom.

My soul (nafs) said: How could you explain the delay in the response of Allaah to your prayers for relief from this calamity?

I said: It is proven with evidence that Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, is the Sovereign, and the Sovereign may withhold or give, so there is no point in objecting to Him.

2 – The wisdom behind that is proven in definitive evidence. I may think that something is good, but wisdom does not dictate it, but the reason for that may be hidden, just as a doctor may do things that appear outwardly to be harmful, intending some good purpose thereby. Perhaps this is something of that nature.

3 – There may be an interest to be served by delay, and haste may be harmful. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “A person will be fine so long as he does not become impatient and says, ‘I prayed but I did not receive any answer.’”

4 – The response may be withheld because of some fault in you. Perhaps there was something dubious in what you ate or your heart was heedless at the time when you said the du’aa’, or your punishment is being increased by means of your need being withheld, because of some sin from which you have not repented sincerely.

So look for some of these reasons, so that you might achieve your aim.

5 – You should examine the intention behind this request, because attaining it may lead to more sin, or prevent you from doing some good, so withholding it is better.

It was narrated that one of the salaf used to ask Allaah to help him to go out on campaign, but a voice called out to him: If you go out on campaign you will be taken prisoner, and if you are taken prisoner you will become a Christian!

6 – Perhaps losing what you have missed out on will cause you to turn to Allaah and getting it will distract you from Him. This is obvious, based on the fact that were it not for this calamity you would not have turned to Him, because the real calamity is what distracts you from Him, but what makes you stand before Him is good for you and is in your best interests.

If you ponder these things you will focus on what is more beneficial for you, such as correcting a mistake or seeking forgiveness or standing before Allaah and beseeching Him, and forget about what you have missed out on . End quote.

Sayd al-Khaatir (59-60).

And Allaah is the Source of strength.

kimbra:
If you like preach from now till God knows when. I'll still do what suit me and not be bothered about what you term it.

Let me go and upload some biniki pics on my instagram page.

*walks out of thread*.

You have every right to stick to your stench. Stink away, dearie. We can't tell you not to. All we can do is cover our noses.

hamzeiy:
hmm as usual CAN is always emotional when it comes to issues like this as they always look for the slightest oppurtunity to accuse muslims falsely. which church is been clamped down in nigeria..the last time a checked a reasonable law that was to increase our revenue as a nation was suspended because a' man of god' was affected by it. it seems some people are hell bent on bringing chaos to the countrt and offcourse the Igbos at the otherside of the corner are happily rejoicing. the major casuality of this madness happening in southern kaduna arr even the muslims as expected from a community of majority christains and minority muslims but it dosnt make news..thr instant you have reprisal attack CAN would be in thr front with its smelly mouth to say things it knows are false for the gullible nigerians and Igbos who just prefer to be deceived.. do nigerians even know that most fulani herdsmen dont even know how to pray the muslim salat..they are practically non muslims..crises between an ijaw man and itshekiri is an ethinic one but the one btw a kataph man and a fulani person (that are mostly non practicing muslims) is a religous one (CAN's hypocrisy at display). we are patiently waitin to react soon..maybe then CAN WOULD know the difference between a muslim attack that would be justified i assure you and the one carried out by fulani criminals..finally only an irresponsible country will alow anybody to call for chaos and genocide without reacting....i hope the day we get tired of innocent muslims been killed on southern kaduna federal roads leading to other states and falsely accused,our real leaders (scholars of sunna not the sultan) shall issue fatawa..then we shall know who would get tired of the chaos CAN has been hoping for eagerly

The Rwandan genocide was brewed
by, among others, christian clergy and countless ordinary civilians. Some militias called themselves the "Army of Jesus" and they believed their mission was to destroy God's enemies.

Many of those who fanned the embers of the calamity now serve terms at the Hague. check this link:

Catholic Church Apologizes for Role in Rwandan Genocide - Newsweek

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/www.newsweek.com/catholic-church-apologizes-role-rwandan-genocide-523289%253Famp%253D1&ved=0ahUKEwj8z6CHyufRAhXLtBQKHfNxBesQFghkMAc&usg=AFQjCNHjRP3X6GSs9nLICNhI_ElpsZiw8g

kilo4sure:

You don't understand, jesus even told the Jews he is greater than the temple( if you know what that means).
Yes Jesus is human but he believed his action and his works were that of God incarnate. The lord himself has personally visited his people to save them. This is why the new testament authors exalted Jesus like they would exalt God. This is not about a certain trinity or nature of God, it is about the role of Jesus in the history of Isreal and the world at large, showing that he is no mere messenger or prophet.

Jesus prayed, God answered. But exalting Jesus like they would God is quite grave going by these:

So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me” (John 7:16)

“I came not of my own accord, but he sent me” (John 8:42)

“I tell you the truth, no SERVANT is greater than his MASTER, nor is a MESSENGER greater than the one who sent him” (John 13:16)

“Jesus said to them, ‘My food is to do the will of Him who sent me, and to accomplish His work” (John 4:34)

“For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak” (John 12:49)

So, Jesus feeling and acknowledging his miracles as God's work and his declaration of servitude to God should warn us enough not to exalt him to equality to God.

HomoDroid:
Pity I got into this thread rather late.
I thank the OP for this provocative subject. In my personal interactions with a muslim sister, my mind has been opened wider to some deep truths. Although I haven't gotten around to confronting her with the truth (I'm hoping she would be hit with the realities just the same way our exchanges have helped me).

A few things have become clear:
1. most serious muslims seem to know more about the letters of the Bible than the average christian;
2. the average muslim takes religion more seriously than the average christian (hence hard - like the Judaist of the old testament)
3. the Quor'an seem to be an imitation of the literal content of the Old testament
4. no Muslim dares deny the spiritual authority of Jesus - the worst they can go is deny his Godship.

In order to reconcile the genuine muslims to the truth about Christ, I want to make clear some of the confusion they have about Jesus Christ:

The name Jesus, is the name of man, hence the muslims are some what correct to say he is not God. He was just a human image or reflection of God, like you and I. His level of human capacity qualify him as a Prophet as the muslims claim. But as a human, he was much more that a Prophet (He was also a Doctor, Teacher/Rabbi, Pastor/Shepherd, Priest, etc)

Jesus came to earth to live with us humans to diagnose our human malady. He came as Christ (Saviour). His mandate was captured in the Book of
Luke Chapter 4, verse 18&19[b] …18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on Me, because He has anointed Me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent Me to proclaim deliverance to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to release the oppressed, 19to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.” 20Then He rolled up the scroll, returned it to the attendant, and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fixed on Him,… [/b] THis is comparable to the scripture in Isaiah Chapter 61 verse 1 -3.

The easiest way to explain the duality/duplicity of the personality of Jesus Christ to anyone who has not studied the Bible or read through from start to finish is to consider that he was a normal man just like you and I, on earth. But before this, he emerged from God, directly, pure without sin. This was why we had to merge with humanity by coming through the womb. Then he obtained the power of God (His Spirit of Holiness) through Baptism. What this does is to give any man who obtain the same gift to have the ability to be exactly as God.

After completing His mission on earth, He returned to be with his father (by the spirit). Then the man called Jesus, had His name elevated among men in His confirmation as Christ the Saviour, due to His obedience and submission to the will of God. This is why He warned that there is no other name by which men shall be saved. He is the only one who up to date has warned that He is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

Muslims have been misled to think God has no son. Even ordinary me, I am a Son of God and joint heir with Jesus. All true believers are sons of God and gods unto ordinary men! God made Moses/Musa to become a God to the then almighty Pharaoh.

In my opinion, most serious muslims should score higher in the religion realm, but are limited in capacity due to the absence of the Holy Spirit. They operate by the letters of the Law (which kills/limits) rather than the spirit of the Law (which liberates and render unlimited)

Also in my opinion, most christians DO ABUSE the liberty that they have in Christ, thereby denying the power of the Holy Spirit to make them unlimited. This is the crux of the matter and the confusion we have between these two principal religion in Nigeria today.

It is virtually impossible to explain these issues in full within the limits of this forum, so I will understand anyone who may be confused. But I pray for all who would be saved that The Almighty God, creator of Heavens and the Earth, most benevolent and merciful, will reveal His truth to all who are worthy of His Salvation.

Baptism makes you exactly like God? Even John the Baptist who baptized many was never like God. Nothing makes you like God. Jesus wept, unlike God.

I would've said you blasphemed, buh u stated repeatedly it's ur opinion. So, it is what it is.

Danhumprey:
my brother, you don't get it. we're not worshipping Jesus, rather we are worshipping God through Jesus Christ, who is the Way to the Father, Almighty God. Jesus Christ and the Father are one, so it follows that if we're worshipping God,we're also worshipping Jesus.

Idol worshippers also profess to the worship of the Creator through their idols. If we truly believe that our Creator is close to us, omniscient and omnipresent, the need to worship him THROUGH any being comes to naughts.

Believing in Jesus as a God-sent teacher and a perfect role model through whom we should learn to worship God, the Creator, is different from considering Jesus an intermediate god, God's intermediary, or God Himself.

God is one, jealous.

To say he "christened" his baby tho..... is sly. Or, at best, lazy.

kishimi8:
OK. Now you guys are getting me confused. Pls clarify this for me properly I almost took the other persons correction on what I posted and now what I was thought according to you is the right one. Kinda in da middle now. Any better explanation?

A new Muslim who has yet to learn to do Solaat in Arabic should join the congregation and simply follow the Imaam's lead. If he/she has time to learn to do Solaat in any other language, he/she sure has enough time to learn it in Arabic. If however he couldn't possibly learn except in some other language than Arabic- a situation which is farfetched, the permissibility to pray in any other language might be applicable on a case by case basis, fearing Allah as much as doable.

Marry her. Start a polygamy. It's the sure way to escape adultery and save your chastity and maybe your sanity.

And if you think polygamy is sinful, try adultery. ****you guys are adults nw; just do adultery***

The right headline: Christian Teacher Beheads Pupil in Ogun State.

Nice topic. For about four years I used to be a poacher (welder SMAW/FCAW). But I became a game collector (QA/QC welding inspector) 18 months back. I still do a bit of welding though...

Iqramarcaz@gmail.com

Beamborla:
I can allow my husband do the first but the second, no way! I would rather back the baby while he carry the bag before all his family members start pleading with me or shouting at me to untie their son. That aside, I wouldn't want anyone to disrespect him or fingers pointing at him whenever he steps out.

WAA GBAYI. oNE PURE WATER FOR U!

amosy007:

no one is blaming the punishment, we are only questioning what brought abt such punishment.. What kinda stupid culture, law, or religion warrants such punishment 4 posting unclad picture online.. Aint that absolute slavery in 21st century?

As far as judicial matters go, in Saudi Arabia, they are a theocracy, . Their Law is God's law according to Muslims' take on what God's law is. Muslims are slaves of God. And it takes a critical mind to appreciate what a beautiful slavery that is! For your education, read up about Islam with an unbiased, open, democratic -if you like- and critical mind. An attitude of lazy naivete and uncritical acceptance of lopsided anecdotes on Islam peddled by those who make business of information (i mean some religious leaders & the media who tell you what you would pay for and hide the bitter truths) only breeds intolerance and unprovoked outbursts and blasphemous harangues which are symptomatic of an encyclopaedic emptiness. I understand that you should be wary of what you don't fully comprehend. I also hope that you are at least curious about Islam. Just that I fear that your laziness gets in the way.

Peace unto those who seek true guidance.

modash: 1+1+1=1

Thats the the illogicality of the trinity gamut

where man dey work , na there him dey shop, na im make dem dey call am workshop (Gordons)