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Can you quote where Jesus explicitly said he is God?🙂

Kingsnairaland:
Your problem in Bible is you read one part bible is two edge sword

If you don't read the other part you will fail

If I tell you that I am black and tomorrow I say I am white

What will you call me you can call me black and white person rather than only saying am black

Jesus identify himself many times
as son of God
as God
as son of man too

Jesus is trying to tell you he is all in all


Look example

John 10:28 ►

New International Version
I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.

New Living Translation
I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them away from me,

DeepSight:
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Fear is the word you used. Many who believed in spirits had close communion with them, not fear.

Please don't dodge the question can you mention any race where they don't believe in spirits before colonial masters came to change their thinking?

MaxInDHouse:
Let me ask you few questions to which you will come up with "i don't know"🤣

Why is it that throughout the world there is no single race where people don't believe in the supernatural?

What is the hidden secret behind magical practices?

Why do people from all races fear the dead?

Your response please?🤣

So if you believe people had communion with spirits do you think those questions are easy for atheists who were taught to discard the idea of spirits?

DeepSight:
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Who told you everyone fears the dead. Many dont even believe the exist, not to talk of fear.

Mention the race because it's after white people went round brainwashing people that things started to change even your own ancestors fear the dead!🤣

DeepSight:
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Nursery 1 questions.

Among God's people but university level for atheists!🤣

LordReed:
I know.l and I am certain.

Let me ask you few questions to which you will come up with "i don't know"🤣

Why is it that throughout the world there is no single race where people don't believe in the supernatural?

What is the hidden secret behind magical practices?

Why do people from all races fear the dead?

Your response please?🤣

Kingsnairaland:
Nope jw don't believe jesus is God that can give eternal life

Now you've turned the table!

This is what Jesus said with his own mouth:

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. For God did not send his Son into the world for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. Whoever exercises faith in him is not to be judged. Whoever does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God. John 3:16-18

Throughout the above verses Jesus kept repeating that he was sent by someone greater than him {John 14:28} and that is why he told one of his disciples:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God." John 20:16

So we are Jesus' brothers not worshipers while both Jesus and we are worshipers of One God who is our Father!😟

OLAADEGBU:
You mean protesters who are more catholic than the Pope?

By their fruits you will know them! Matthew 7:15-20
It's what Kumuyi infused in their hearts they are exhibiting, true Christians leave no stone unturned if you are no longer ok with the teachings of Christ's chosen ones you can't stage a protest against the group because protests is never in the teaching of Christ Jesus.
So if members of Deeperlife are protesting against Kumuyi it means his teachings is useless because Christians are never taught to protest against the worldly authority {Romans 13:1} not to talk of those leading the congregation of God! Hebrews 13:7😟

imoh4king:
Hmm!
I am not an authority in this argument but I also do not think that Jehoval Witness is a religion.
Which denomination do you attend? And did you go for any camping or convention?

We are the only organization worshiping our God that's why we don't welcome the idea of different religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in the name of DENOMINATIONS! 1Corinthans 1:10

May you have peace!

Kingsnairaland:
Max what made you to change
Have you received jesus into your heart or have you dropped jw

Change like how?
That's what Jehovah's Witnesses believe nah!😟

LordReed:
What topic? Demons? I know demons don't exist.

You know or you don't know because your teachers told you they don't know?🤣

OLAADEGBU:
You are called mad max for a reason but I didn’t know it is this bad.

Insults, vulgar or abusive speeches won't save your pastor from his lies.
At least he's now retracing his steps that is why there is underground protests against him now in his own church.

No one can be saved without Jesus, he is the only way to salvation.

Of course most people who never heard about or learn from Jesus will be with his disciples in Paradise for 1,000 years but only believers in Jesus will have everlasting life! John 3:16

OLAADEGBU:
The “truth“ only you in your delusional mind knows.

Known by many but kept it away that is what i will never ever do.
No TVs, No mingling with other churches are all our artistic impressions he stole from our publications.
He even reads our publication:
(Reasoning From The Scriptures)
A publication that only JWs possess that is not for sale.

Whether you like it or not i will continue to rub it in your face that Kumuyi was a former JW DISFELLOWSHIPED!🙂

LordReed:
I give very definitive clarifications were necessary. You on the other hand are one who when challenged CANNOT backup up your spurious claims.
I answer "we don't know" on questions were knowledge is lacking because I have no need to pretend unlike you who must pretend to have an answer even when your ignorance is glaring.
But you have time to respond. Bwahahahahahaha!

So on this topic you know nothing then why arguing with those who knows?🙂

OLAADEGBU:
Guess what you have in common with Satan. Lies from the pit of hell. The onus is you to supply the evidence that Pastor Kumuyi was once a member of you occultic organisation, JW. Start by telling us what year he joined or who apart from your delusional mind witnessed his membership.

Ask him to tell you the truth, they always hide it from the general public and gullible boys like you!🙂

OLAADEGBU:
Stop being delusional. You need to see a shrink as soon as possible instead of being fixated and envious on a person you do not know.

Apart from being paid by Kumuyi for all these advert i can boldly say you know nothing about Kumuyi!🙂

OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying you now believe Pastor Kumuyi?

He was a member of Jehovah's Witnesses so he's confused as he wants to gain friendship with the world yet he wants to be a believer.
Tell him that he is deceiving himself the other baba is 100% smarter than him as that one only dance to the tune of the majority while your pastor is claiming holier than thou!😟

LordReed:
LoLz! You sha like making yourself feel important. I respond to the misinformation in your posts, not because I feel something I missed in Christianity. Unless I turn insane I won't even consider become a JW. Why in the world would I leave the freedom I currently enjoy to join a misery inducing cult.

Misinformation that you can't give a definitive clarification about it shey?
If i ask you questions about anything on this matter your best answer is:
"We don't know"
As if you have a group of people that you have agreed with regarding knowledge about life and when you want to talk about anything the next is to start quoting humans like you yet you don't have anything in common with the people you quote other than ignorance on many things all because you feel there is no need to be schooled by others when you are just another misinformed black man whose brain has been twisted to think in a direction that you are not certain of.
Continue deceiving yourself i don't have your time!🤣

What exactly did Kumuyi teach you regarding Christmas?

You always come here to talk about studying the Bible with Kumuyi yet you are not sincere with yourself.

jaephoenix:
The guy cannot engage any atheist in any intellectual discourse. He's as dense as they come. You now understand why I said I won't interface him again

Intellectual discourse indeed, so you call this your childish and abusive speeches that reveals your sadistic state of mind "intellectual discourse".

Your oga knows what it takes to reason with a true believer it makes him feel the warmth he supposed to enjoy in true Christianity which he never had and of course led him astray to what he now beholds: atheism

Each time he notice my post the feeling is always there to engage a real Christian but i know when he is sincere and when he's just trying to troll with no real interest.

Obrigardo:
Stop this trash please!
And what's with the racism all of a sudden? Please get the f out if you can't hold a normal discussion. Pathetic!

You need help walahi talahi!🤣

You want to argue against what the Bible teaches and all you've got is what someone said shey?🤣

Obrigardo:
Confirmed by top UFO researcher Jon Stewart on X. He told me it's real when i asked him to confirm.

So it's what another white man told you that you brought here as if you heard it from one of these creatures.

A black man will always be a black man!🤣

You're just seeking fruitless arguments and i'm not interested in that today!🙂

LordReed:
Maybe when I believed. Now I find little to no utility for faith. I find it is a good tool for scammers to use to take advantage of the gullible. There's nothing you cannot accept based on faith. If your organisation made a new proclamation tomorrow telling you that aliens are angels come to warn JW, you will accept it on faith.

Obrigardo:
I guess from the bible when they were cast down, they had to change forms moving through realms right?
The fact that these things have non-human intelligence and can communicate with telepathy shows they are more powerful beings.

Demons don't have any visible form they move without any anything stopping or hindering their movement.
They are a million times powerful than humans!

Born Again Christians have disowned themselves completely {Luke 9:23} and focused on their heavenly reward {Matthew 6:19-21} anyone attached to all these things are 100% conscious of their life here and what life has in stock for them but Born Again Christians don't even value this life anymore in fact they are dead to earthly things! Romans 8:5🤔

LordReed:
And as usual you made another claim you cannot support so your opinions are pretty much inutile.

Have you ever agreed with anything to do with FAITH?🙂

DeepSight:
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So what happened in all the other years mentioned.

The expectations of God's people about when God's Kingdom will begin reigning has been a sacred secret for thousands of years so as each event unfold servants of God only need to be patient {Act 1:7} because they aren't perfect they will learn from what is happening and continue explaining to those under their care. Matthew 24:45

Each time the anointed brothers of Christ gets the understanding all we need to do is humbly welcome it as the right time in God's eyes to reveal the sacred secret {Daniel 12:10} but if any of Jesus' disciples tries to be smarter than those taking the lead he or she will loose out because you can never ever find a better performing group of worshipers than the worshipers of the true God.

So God's word warned us to seek humility and righteousness {Zephaniah 2:2-3} because with humility we will see clearly that those leading us are not perfect like Jesus who understands everything having to do with God's will {John 21:17b} and righteousness will help us to focus on the only group that's doing God's will even though they are not perfect humans.

DeepSight:
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You still hold on to this 1914 myth after JWs have tied failed predictions to several different years including 1874, 1914, 1918, 1925 and 1975?

Jesus began ruling in heaven since 1914 and of course several prophecies has been unfolding ever since then whether you believe it or not that's the absolute truth!🙂

So in a nutshell you and i can't agree on this issue therefore it's better you hold onto your opinion while i hold onto mine!🙂

LordReed:
Kindly show me where we claimed humans have been on earth for millions of years. Whether you accept it or not there were such creatures as we see in the fossil record living millions of years ago. There are no such things as demons. That is old wives tales.

LordReed:
Guy human beings made cars and planes before 1914. That is just BS to insert some cut off date because it favours your narrative. LoLz.
Humans have not lived on earth for millions of years.
Humans found the fossils, there's no "Who are behind".

Of course advancement in technology was slow before 1914, war equipments also were limited, and founders of churches were limited until the demons were sent out of heaven {Matthew 24:11} but as for the millions of years are you saying all what your people have been claiming are false?
And the fossils whether you accept it or not there were no creatures with such things demons arranged them to cause CONFUSION!🙂

LordReed:
LoLz. We don't need aliens to "raise a lot of questions against what is written in the Bible", we do it pretty well without them.

*Who are behind the fossils found by those telling you false stories regarding creatures that lived millions of years ago against God's word that says life is not up to 9,000 years on this planet?

Who are behind speedy advancement of technology within 1914 till today when humans have lived for millions of years before then? Revelation 12:7-12

Well they are this same aliens driven out of heaven and causing confusion all over the earth. Revelation 12:9

There are many sons of God in heaven in the Bible they are called angels or morning stars {Job 38:7} the first among them is called Michael the archangel {Jude 9} he is the only creature made by God directly {Proverbs 8:22} and he worked with God in the creation of all other things {Proverbs 8:30; Colossians 1:15} God is fond of His only begotten Son so much {Proverbs 8:30; Matthew 3:17} in fact all creatures were made as inheritance belonging to God's only begotten Son! Colossians 1:16

God also loved His first human creature and view him as His Son {Luke 3:38} but after the rebellion in the garden of Eden Adam became a sinner this means Adam chose not to be God's Son anymore but to be independent of God's guidance and not only that Adam also wanted to become God over others (his prospective children) so instead of humbly submitting to God's guidance Adam wanted to set his own standard for all his descendants.
That is what he chose by eating the fruit forbidden for him and his wife! Genesis 2:17; 3:4-5

Sadly most of Adam's descendants took after his footstep as many doesn't want to submit to God's word and at the same time they want to set rules for their fellowman that is what led to human kings and bad rulership negatively affecting billions of lives globally today! Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9; compare to 1Samuel 8:10-18

Adam was a perfect human father who supposed to bear perfect children but he never had any children before his rebellion so all his children got infected through his rebellious act therefore they all deserve to die! Romans 5:12

Obedient humans need another perfect human father who will connect us back to our heavenly Father who is the source of life. Psalms 36:9

No human is qualified to stand in for another in this case because we are all Adam's children {Psalms 49:7-9} that is why we need one loyal spirit son of God to put on human flesh in order to set us free {John 6:51} the only spirit son of God who chose to do this is the same Archangel Michael who has always stand for the salvation of God's people {Daniel 12:1} so we have him born into our midst as Jesus his assignment is to serve in four capacities:
*Wonderful Counselor
*Mighty God
*Eternal Father
*Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6

As the world's most wonderful counselor Jesus will teach obedient humans how to become submissive to God's will through his words, thoughts and actions.

Just as Moses served as God in the midst of God's people in ancient Israel {Exodus 7:1 compare to Deuteronomy 18:18-19} Jesus will prove to be a mighty God who is able to cure all manners of sickness and assure faithful people that all the promises of God written in the Bible are achievable.

After millions have believed and become obedient to him Jesus will prove to be a better human father than Adam who is capable of living forever as God's loyal son and through him obedient humans will regain what Adam lost which is life everlasting! 1Corinthans 15:45 compare to John 3:16

Jesus will rule over the earth for 1,000 years to restore perfect peace among all the people from different countries throughout the earth who have become his disciples. Act 1:8

So when Jesus said he came to minister (teach by example) and give his life in ransom for many {Matthew 20:28} Jesus is telling us God's provision for our salvation if you believe in him and obey all his commandments you will be allowed into Paradise! Luke 23:43🙂