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ANTIlSLAM:
ARINDIN OMO!

Your herbalists are specialized in HERBS with human organs that will give you quick money.. Maybe you know more than we sane Nigerians that are exposing your people whom you believe in as your healer you will tell me

OLÓDO learn!
That's why Nigeria is far behind in everything.
HERBALIST means specialist in medical line in terms of HERBS not SPIRITISTS!

tctrills:
I actually respect the JW for their little contributions in improving society but compared to many other churches, they are quite down in the ladder.
So be humble and learn from others.

OK Sir i will learn how to kill my neighbours and fellow believers when politics and racism calls!

tctrills:
You are wrong, we have only had mad rulers. Its time for some sanity in Nigeria.

tctrills:
Stop diverting, many churches have millions of members.
If we mention the top 10 churches in production of food and in charity, JW does not come close.
Ordinary Christ embassy of yesterday share more information through their tv channels and publication.
Still all that don't make up for false prophecies.

Put all of them in line for Isaiah 2:2-4 & Micah 4:1-3 if they meet the expected results and as for your FALSE PROPHECIES accusations that has been cleared wrong expectations differ from false prophecies!

tctrills:
A false prophecy does not give result.

They've gathered people in millions, they have use their teachings to resolve all their racial disparities, they have diverted their resources into production of food and information materials, they have erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons from the hearts of millions and they have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

In fact if the world was full of Jehovah's Witnesses we won't be talking about wars or famine or murders anymore!

tctrills:
No it's only producing wrong results. The kingdom did not come when they said it would.
That's clearly not the results we want

Good!
I love that statement "not the result you and your cohorts want"

But as for individuals like me "we are hoping to see a global family of peace loving worshipers as promised in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3
That's the FRUIT {Matthew 7:16-18} expected of imperfect humans who are PRACTICING pure worship.

So any blunder they committed we know it's due to the fact that they're imperfect humans they can't perform better than their pioneers in the first century who are also imperfect!

ANTIlSLAM:
Wetin concern medical doctor with money ritual.. ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO abeg switch to another moniker, your sense no dey work properly with dis your MaxInDHouse moniker of a tin

OLÓDO!

HERBALIST a medical practitioner specialised in HERBS not what your Nigerian journalist call SPIRITISTS!

tctrills:
No the JW did not have a false expectation. They invented these false teaching

Now you're lying!

Everything they taught is correct that's why it's yielding positive results globally with the exception of their wrong expectation!

tctrills:
Preaching falsehood and having a wrong expectation has 2 different meanings. Let me help you with the dictionary.

Falsehood
the state of being untrue.
"the truth or falsehood of the many legends which surround her"
a lie.
Wrong expectation
Could be a miscalculation.
False hope

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni since you've admitted that Jesus' first century Jewish disciples also had wrong expectations just like JWs that case is closed.

I wasn't born a JW so don't think i was with the organization when they had wrong expectation just as i accepted Christianity based on what the first century Jewish disciples practiced (despite their wrong expectations) i found JWs exactly the same line of thought with the first century Jewish disciples of Christ still with their own wrong expectations too.
So if you're now calling JWs false prophets due to wrong expectations then you have nothing to say in defense of Christianity because the pioneers of this religion also had wrong expectations back then!

tctrills:
So the disciples spread falsehood and that permits you to spread falsehood. Those that make sense to you?
If all organizations give this excuse,then Christianity is lost.
Not only did you teach your members that nonsense, you also made them teach it to the rest of the world.
If you notice I have not criticized your organization for their false prophecies. They are not the only ones guilty of peddling falsehood. But when you defend falsehood it shows something is very wrong.

That's why i told you that FALSE PROPHECIES differs from WRONG EXPECTATIONS.

Jehovah's Witnesses had wrong expectations. YES!
But false prophecies. NO!

If the first century Jewish disciples expected that apostle John will not die before God's Kingdom comes it simply means they were EXPECTING God's Kingdom to come within the life span of apostle John: WRONG EXPECTATIONS

But since God's Kingdom will still come that doesn't make them false prophets because it was the timing they missed not the message!

tctrills:
Good question

Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
First you don't know if John died or not. Secondly, we would not defend the disciples for spreading falsehoods. And I see no reason to defend your organization. You should be responsible enough to own up your falsehoods

Ọmọ i'm still TEACHING you that wrong expectation doesn't make pure worship false.
That's the point!

tctrills:
Only a fool excuses himself because another person made the same error.
You preached falsehood and it directly affected the lives of millions of your innocent members who believed it

What the first century Jewish disciples spread about apostle John affected only the twelve shey?

ANTIlSLAM:
Bobo you don switch, na my matter go kill you aswear

Shey your teacher knows the plant to use with human organs he/she harvested for money ritual?

Your herbalists the people you believe so much in for your healing and deliverance are the custodian of money rituals, ask your alagba in your kingdom hall the reason why your herbalists are pioneer of money rituals

Ọmọ doctors don't specialize on the same field some are trained to treat eyes, ears, bones and so on.
So if you now find a doctor working on eye transplant does that makes all doctors eye specialists?

tctrills:
Apollo and John never were false prophets. A wrong expectation is different from spreading falsehood.
Let me teach you the meaning of a wrong expectation.
Imagine that I invested in a business and I expect a 200% returns but then I get a 100% returns, that is a wrong expectation. But if without any evidence, I went about advertising to others that they would get a 200% returns, that is spreading of falsehood. That is lying.

Go and condemn Jesus' first century Jewish disciples! John 21:21-23

tctrills:
Falsehood is claiming something that over time is proven wrong.
Again, I would help you with the dictionary meaning of falsehood.
the state of being untrue.
"the truth or falsehood of the many legends which surround her"
a lie.
plural noun: falsehoods
"a downright falsehood"

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, Jesus' disciples in the first century spread it among themselves that Apostle John will not die until God's Kingdom come {John 21:21-23} does that makes Christianity a false religion?

tctrills:
You gave a false date about the coming of the kingdom. You preached the falsehood to your members and the rest of the world.
Everyone is expecting the kingdom but not everyone gave fake timeline.

So what do you have to say about John the baptist and Jesus' first century Jewish disciples who both had wrong timing at heart?
Perhaps you're thinking such wrong expectation never occurred among Jesus' first century Jewish disciples! John 21:23

tctrills:
Falsehood is claiming something that over time is proven wrong.
Again, I would help you with the dictionary meaning of falsehood.
the state of being untrue.
"the truth or falsehood of the many legends which surround her"
a lie.
plural noun: falsehoods
"a downright falsehood"

The timing is not what you and i should be concerned about {Act 1:7} what we need is to continue the preaching and teaching campaign without let up.

Will God's Kingdom still come?

YES or NO!

tctrills:
Your defence that Apollos and John spread falsehood is wrong.

Ọmọ know that Jesus used the opportunity to confirm John as a true prophet of God otherwise questioning Jesus' authenticity in the face of those people surely affected John's reputation because that means he doesn't know what he's doing. For your information it was just wrong expectations that caused it.

So if you're now attributing falsehood to a group of worshipers performing excellently throughout the earth simply because of wrong expectation it means you're not wise!
Period!

tctrills:
Even if we say you doctrine was not a prophecy, it was a falsehood.
You guys were spreading falsehoods
I agree that you are not the only organization guilty of spreading falsehoods and that can be forgiven but defending falsehood, that's unwise.

Only dullards like you call what is yielding positive results "FALSEHOOD"
Jesus said "by their FRUITS you will know them" Matthew 7:16-18

When an organization is meeting all the requirements of pure worship but you're now hinging on their anticipation of what God promised saying they spread falsehood that's confirmed stupidity because ancient servants of God also had wrong expectations and that doesn't make them false!

tctrills:
Pls sit educate yourself with the definition of prophecy.
prophecy
/ˈprɒfɪsi/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a prediction of what will happen in the future.
"a bleak prophecy of war and ruin"

tctrills:
So you guys printed lies and falsehood and your explanation is that the 1st century Christians did that too interesting.
Again you don't know the meaning of a prophecy but I would define it for you using the dictionary.

prophecy
/ˈprɒfɪsi/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a prediction of what will happen in the future.
"a bleak prophecy of war and ruin"

So will God's Kingdom still come or it's no more coming?

I told you that you've been injected with truth so you will always come back for more.

God's Kingdom will come so those expecting it may be wrong with the timing but it's not false as long as it's still coming! Habakkuk 2:3

oteneaaron:
SHOW ME PROOF.

Don't just say things, show proof or else what you say hold no water.

I asked you if Apollos prophesied that the world would end in 1914 and you replied with YES!

No need for this long story.

Show me proof.

YES! YES!! YES!!!
Apollos prophesied a wrong timing regarding the kingdom of Christ just as his teacher John the baptist also had wrong expectations.

Hit your head on the brick if your brains can't decipher that simple truth!

tctrills:
I am quite impressed that you guys did not retrieve those false prophecies from the internet. It shows a degree of honesty.
I advise you stop arguing. The prophecies are clearly false and can't be defended.

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni if you don't know what to say go ahead and worship wherever pleases you.
I am telling you that it was wrong expectations and not prophecies. The PROPHECIES about the end of the world is there in the Bible but it's the timing that JWs got wrong due to anxiety for God's Kingdom just as John the baptist and Jesus' first century followers did.

It's either you don't believe in God's promises or you want to attack those anticipating it but if you want to talk about FALSE PROPHECIES let me hear what JWs say that's not found written at all in the Bible not their wrong expectation!

oteneaaron:
Good.
Show the PROOF with Bible verse where Apollos specifically stated that the world would end on 1914.
I am waiting.
Continue supporting falsehood.

The Bible clearly stated that Apollos was preaching but Aquila and Priscilla explained the truth more accurately to him.
So he must be having wrong expectations just like his teacher John the baptist.

Mind you Jesus said John the baptist was the greatest of all servants of God before his time despite John's wrong expectation! Matthew 11:2-11

tctrills:
Oga, while we can't argue away the JW false prophecies, they are not the only organization that have false prophecies. Just like most Christian organizations, you guys have your good and bad so stop trying to defend falsehood. Just move on and preach your doctrine.

Chai the injection still dey disturb this guy o!

I told you that you will always come back to me àbí i no tell you?

Well Jehovah's Witnesses never made any prophecy just like John the baptist and Jesus' first century followers JWs had wrong expectations NOT prophecies!

Prophecy is what nobody has ever had of before not what God promised that the people expecting it had wrong timing so the difference is clear!

oteneaaron:
You still don't get it do you?

You keep speak about pure "worship".

Do you have any idea what worship truly means?

Stop giving your time and energy to forces outside your self.

Look within!

Ọmọ that's self realization: ATHEISM!

oteneaaron:
Did Apollos prophesy that the world would end in 1914?

YES! YES!! YES!!!

Apollos surely was preaching exactly what his teacher John the baptist taught him!
Don't forget that John and Jesus' disciples expected Christ to start ruling the earth in the first century!
John had wrong expectations! Matthew 11:3
Apostles also had wrong expectations! Act 1:6

Definitely that's what Apollos was preaching when Aquila and Priscilla found him before they taught him about the NEW LIGHT! Act 18:24-26

Courz:
Yes. Light getting brighter. Exactly as Freemasons believe. Did you know Satanists also believe in Light getting brighter too?

Hen nah present the organization of people worshiping the true God!

oteneaaron:
You still cannot show concrete evidence that Courz and I are one and the same person.

You have no proof and yet, you keep accusing Courz and I wrongly.

But that is by the way.

Just like your brother Janosky, all you do is throw insults and call people names.

You keep calling me an Atheist, is it not because I reject your god Jehovah?

Your god is neither omnipotent, omniscient nor omnipresent.

Which means your god cannot be the Universal Mind that is all and in all.

Moreso, when you study ancient history, the true identity of your god is further exposed -

Jehovah is the same person as ENLIL from ancient Mesopotamia.

Jehovah is the same person as Baal from ancient Canaan.

Jehovah is the same person as the DEMIURGE from the Gnostic Christians of 2nd and 3rd AD.

Jehovah is the same person as Zeus from ancient Greece.

Jehovah is the same person as Jupiter from ancient Rome.

I REJECT such a god.

An accurate definition of atheism is failure to find any group of persons practicing what you agreed upon as pure worship hence you either advocate no god or you refuse to participate in any organized form of worship!

If your god and it's worshipers aren't presentable ọmọ you be confirmed atheist!

There was a disciple of John the baptist known as Apollos who kept preaching fearlessly about the Christ but he only had teachings his master John the baptist taught him about the Christ {Act 18:24-25} do you expect Apollos to have accurate knowledge of truth or continue preaching what John taught him based on his expectations before been imprisoned?

Apollos kept preaching fearlessly and zealously even though he doesn't have the accurate knowledge of truth until true Christians found him and taught him the brighter light of truth. Act 18:26

QUICK QUESTION!

Does that makes John the baptist a false prophet?
Does John's teachings come from the Devil?
Should Apollos stick to John teachings since the master introduced Jesus?
Will God be pleased with Apollos if he refused to welcome the NEW LIGHT?

Let all atheists claiming believers know that the light keeps getting brighter and brighter! Proverbs 4:18

Courz:
I also showed you a video where your so called Anointed ones were gathered in a restaurant. Did you know the video was actually made by a Freemason JW known as Anointed by you JWs?

Watchtower tells you The JW Cult is made up of the Great Crowd and 144,000. There could be some amongst the anointed that feel they were chosen by the Holy Spirit but Watchtower only recognises those that they selected themselves and initiated into the coven. Watchtower calls the ones they didn't select themselves Mentally diseased. It is a very closely guarded secret amongst the upper echelons of Watchtower. The only reason why this secret has been exposed is because some of these coven members left the organisation and exposed Watchtower because of the rampant Child Sexual Abuse cases amongst them.

The Thread Are Jehovah's witnesses tied to Freemasons explains in great details what I am talking about.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKQtp-ULwA

Your thread full of malicious lies shey?

Aemmyjah:
Wind will surely expose the yansh of an arrogant fowl
You criticize us for commemorating the memorial and now you say how commemorating the memorial shows we reject Jesus Christ. Keep shooting yourself and making a fool of yourself
Go and enter Churches that celebrate the communion and give cake or gala with zobo so you can eat Jesus Christ flesh and drink his blood

He is the same oteneaaron the atheist he's just bitter with hatred towards the truth!

Aemmyjah:
Shame on you
Compare psalm 110:1
Yes, Jesus was given all the authority from God and no one is disputing that of that he went to heaven. He was even head of the congregation
Have you read Revelation 12?
Again, shame on you

They're simply faithless and shameless!