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Ọmọ your logic says Jesus of Nazareth and John the baptist are FALSE PROPHETS as they both declared something is NEAR and 2000 years has elapsed what they said never came!

ANTIlSLAM:
Oponu ode ayerada so you can qoute me, truth don hammer your skull abi, you kuku no me I will be dropping them for you as e dey hot


All what I listed above were discovered for 7,000 years ago and your own believe is that from Adam to our own generation is 6,000 years but if you agree with me that technology discoveries has happened for over 6,000 years ago, I will give you one Biblical verse that talks about one of the listed ancient techniques of treatment

Where are these found written in the Bible?

Going by your logic that makes both Jesus of Nazareth and John the baptist FALSE PROPHETS as they kept saying:

“Repent, for the Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.” Matthew 3:2 ~ John the baptist

“Repent, for the Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.” Matthew 4:17 Jesus of Nazareth

This is the year 2022 both of them said the above some 2000 years ago!

Definitely they were both FALSE PROPHETS!

ANTIlSLAM:
Bobo ancient Physicians don't use medicines, if anyone including your elders in your kingdom hall tell you that ancient physicians used medicines bobo say NO refute not to be brainwashed...






God bless you for this question, ask me more of this so that your master will learn and tap from you

These are ancient medical techniques or treatments physicians used then in those days

1. Leech therapy

2. Maggot therapy

3. Transsphenoidal surgery

4. Fecal transplant

5. Trepanation

6. C-section

7. Mercury

8. Animal Dung Ointments

9. Bloodletting

10. Wandering Womb

11. Babylonian Skull Cure

12. Cannibal Cures

ANCIENT PHYSICIANS NEVER USED PLANT, ROOT OR MEDICINAL HERB

MaxInDHouse surrender yourself for learning, you will gain a lot while with us

Desperate Churchgoer!

Can you quote where any of these is used in the treatment of illnesses in the Bible?

Templee333:
MaxInDHouse janosky SeniorMan715
answer ASAP

For the vision is yet for its appointed time, And it is rushing toward its end, and it will not lie. Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it! For it will without fail come true. It will not be late! Habakkuk 2:3

‘So keep yourselves in expectation of me,’ declares Jehovah, ‘Until the day when I rise up to take plunder, For my judicial decision is to gather nations, to assemble kingdoms, To pour out on them my indignation, all my burning anger; For by the fire of my zeal the whole earth will be consumed. Zephaniah 3:8

I will keep in expectation of Jehovah, who is hiding his face from the house of Jacob, and I will hope in him. Isaiah 8:17

We are in expectation of Jehovah. He is our helper and our shield. Psalms 33:20

Ọmọ don't mind us jàre, that's our HERITAGE always anticipating the fulfilment of what our God promised!

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cornelboy:
It wasn't mentioned specifically in the Bible but physicians use medicines. And the only source of medicine that time is from plants.

Or what do you think the physicians of that time were using?

My brother they've answered you several times but you're just reading their comments instead of reading their minds.

They're advocating Witchcraft, Magic and Sorcery!

Partially true because accepting Jesus can only lead to everlasting life {John 3:16} as for the hardship Jesus himself said the worst still lies ahead! Matthew 6:34

cornelboy:
The medicines they gave her didn't cure her sickness simply because they didn't work. Her sickness might be a rare and complicated case then. So now you/we agree that herbs and drugs intake is not evil or sin like you labelled it before. Cool.

That's correct!
Cancer can also cause flow of blood in females and as we know cancer is incurable but there's no disease no matter how deadly it is that Jesus can't cure he doesn't need the herbs or root to cure because he created all things {Colossians 1:16} unlike you and i that must rely on what Jesus created for our use until God's Kingdom comes to remove all forms of sicknesses! Isaiah 33:24

Let them continue deceiving themselves!

jackomagnus:
Arrant nonsense!
Night vigil is not part of Christianity!

Of course it is but it's strictly personal not to be declared publicly {Matthew 6:6} because it's between you and your Creator alone calling other believers would have unchristian because Jesus never taught his disciples to practice vigil as part of Christian ministry!

OgaNightmare:
Intelligence officer, go and rest abeg
Wetin be this?
I know Atheists and Trinitarians are your nightmares but I'm none of them

OK they're my own nightmares but you who has been trailing me up and down the forum with different accounts one claiming "male" while the other claims to be "female" is a true believer in your god, shey?

SeniorMan715:
Hmmm what's the name of the group of those learned Christians that knows the Bible and History?

Now you're seeing clearly how crooked they are!

In total contrast to Jesus' prayers for believers to have the same line of thought {John 17:22} their so called "LEARNED CHRISTIANS" are SCATTERED in different religous sects {Luke 11:23} with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines but no LEARNED CHRISTIAN should be with JWs because that is the greatest cult and freemason group {Matthew 10:25} then instead of the "LEARNED CHRISTIAN" to have LOVE for neighbours {Mark 12:31} and strong bond among themselves {John 13:34-35} they're killing one another due to politics and racism! Revelations 6:3-4

But the FREEMASON CULT group (JWs) are busy preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood forming a global family of peace loving worshipers under Satan {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} so that they're the one and only group noticed as EVIL for their practices! Matthew 5:14-16


My brother just continue listening to their tone and expression so you can see clearly how the Lord is leading them to SALVATION! 2Timothy 3:13

These are the people demanding for the SACRED SECRETS of God's Kingdom. Do you think they love to know God's Kingdom truth or they're just out to criticize it? Matthew 7:6

gohf:
the point is, if God called you won't he prove Himself to you?

Thomas had a privilege, do you have it. No come dey compare urself, maybe one day God will prove Himself to you at that time know that you have become valuable to Him

Misinformed churchgoers, you're the ones giving this people problems. God won't prove anything to faithless people! Matthew 16:4

That's misinformation!
Each of them have his or her own religion but they must not bring their religious ideas to the house. Keep your God and the beliefs at home then come here with your human brains that's what you're called in here to do it's you they voted for not your god.
That's the policy!

Just as Jesus warned his disciples not to look into the teachings of the Pharisees {Matthew 16:6-12} his modern day brothers warned the other sheep not to consider whatever the churches of Christendom teach their followers.
But is it coincidental that while Jesus' modern day disciples are busy zealously preaching and industriously teaching in their neighbourhood members of different rival groups who don't agree on interpretations often comes to query Jesus' disciples over what they're learning just as Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish rival groups who often disagree on teachings all focus on whatever Jesus' disciples believe as if all of them have agreed on a form of unique teaching?

Well the reason is that there are SECRET SECRETS revealed only to Jesus' true disciples so all the spirits (including fallen angels being worshipped by different sects) are eager to know what has been revealed to this group even though they're not willing to accept but use their worshipers to criticize it! 1Peter 1:12

OkCornel:
Why would I need to have access to sacred secrets through you when the Spirit of Truth is readily available?

1 John 2 v 26-27;
26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.

27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit —just as it has taught you, remain in him.

Good!

So hold fast onto what you know!

OkCornel:
Seems we haven't part ways on this forum at all!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, it's a spiritual term not literal. Jesus spoke to everyone including those he referred to as Satan's children {John 8:30-44} but it's only SACRED SECRETS he never revealed to them! John 10:24

Note that it took Peter and his friends just one thing to know that Jesus is the Christ {Matthew 16:13-16} and that is MEEKNESS! Zephaniah 2:2-3

So my friend we've not become literal enemies it's only sacred secrets that you can't have access to through me anymore!

OkCornel:
Interpretation. There is no answer to how Jesus’ supposed return in 1914 correlates with the prophecy In Zechariah 14 v 1-5.
Thanks

You're welcome Sir!

SeniorMan715:
I notice they don't sincerely ask to know instead they ask to argue and mock... I should have known early.

My brother, just follow Jesus' footsteps closely and you won't have any serious issue with them. If they think you're wrong fine let them go and worship with those who are right no wahala! John 6:66-68

I always meditate thoroughly on Jesus' attitude towards his close confidants and critics, while his close confidants are seeing lots of sacred secrets Jesus walking on water, commanding the sea, transfiguration, resurrection and ascension to heaven all were witnessed only by his closest confidants. So if anyone now tell the Jews that their long awaited Messiah (Christ) has come in the first century do you think they will believe?
Perhaps they don't have custodians of the laws amongst them who could figure the date foretold that the Messiah will come or maybe Jesus' disciples were dumb to have accepted (believe) him because they were illiterates.

My brother just continue to rejoice that you have a pure heart because many i tell you will try to grasp what you're grasping today but they will not be able to {Luke 13:24} but when you humbly make yourself teachable like a child {Mark 10:14-15; Matthew 11:25} JEHOVAH will connect your pure heart so that you can see what they're blind to! Matthew 5:8

You can't see JEHOVAH literally but with a pure heart you will see the difference between those worshiping JEHOVAH and those who are not worshiping Him! Malachi 3:18

OkCornel:
Imaginary chasms
If you don’t have the answer to the question, honesty is a virtue. Come out straight and say such.
All this shalaye is not required.

Thank God you've been following me for long before now so if you think there's anything i accepted without thorough investigation that means you don't truly know me you're just one of the onlookers. So suit yourself because i will not tell you anything related to that sacred secret it is meant only for those within! Luke 8:10

Jesus taught many things and because only few believe him it was just those ones he began revealing sacred secrets to.
But why not reveal to everyone since he came to save mankind in general?

Well the prophecy regarding the Messiah isn't strange to the Jews so whatever Jesus say, do or didn't do {Matthew 11:2-3} is not what they ought to use in judging but his PERFORMANCE as the scriptures foretold {Matthew 11:4-5} of course there will be a cause for stumbling in Jesus if anyone isn't interested in his PERFORMANCE according to the prophecy about the coming Messiah! Matthew 11:6

That's why Jesus felt closely related only to those who believe him based on what the scriptures foretold about what they should expect from the Messiah not what they felt he supposed to do. Luke 8:10

cornelboy:
You are very unreasonable Sir.

MaxinDhouse never said man lived below 600 years.

We never said Divine healing through God's power is same as using herbs and drug.

The physicians of ancient times didn't use modern drugs to treat their patients but traditional medicines from herbs and plants.

We are not forcing anything on you. Hold on to your beliefs while we hold on to ours.

To you, using herbs and drugs is sin against God but to us, it's not a sin.
So keep what you know and we will hold on to ours.

He is frustrated as himself and all his cohorts lost all the points that's why they're desperate to win just one point.
Note how they will hing on something if you hesitate to respond as if that has solved their problems but once you explain in details the story will change, it's either insult, abuses, curses or saying they want to pray for you to understand them.
Funny churchgoers!

LordReed:
No psycho i called you a psycho for reasons already listed. If you're too psycho to read the reasons then thats your problem. LoLz!

I can understand however thanks for the compliment!

OkCornel:
Last time I checked, asking questions to clarify your viewpoint isn’t same as fruitless arguments. You know the difference!
Cheers to the weekend.

Before or after i parted ways with you in the forum?

By now spiritual language shouldn't be hard for you but i can understand, once i've declared you as no worshiper of my God the chasm has been fixed {Luke 16:26} i will no longer respond to you as i use to.
Deep things are for those within not those behind the camp. Luke 8:10
That's the secret!

Aemmyjah:
Atheists enjoy preying on other Christians who can't prove the existence of God and the truth of the Bible and it really hurts me to see how these Christians make it worse and dangerous form themselves. When atheists meet the real Christians. They act like a lone wolf spotting an angry lion. They make all the noises and drama

Who sent them here?
What are they PREACHING for?
What do they stand to gain arguing?

My brother they're suffering from emotional torture so it's when they come in contact with misinformed Churchgoers and religionists that they're relieved but when they come face to face with true Christian their torture increases greatly so they resort to vawulens!

LordReed:
Keep dreaming about me running from you, I am sure it gives you a lot of comfort to dream such a thing. LMFAO!

You've proved how low your IQ my guy, calling someone "psychopath" due to difference in thought shows you've lost it!

hopefulLandlord:
The point was that Thomas despite being "called" by God, interacted with Jesus and witnessed his powers still had doubts that Jesus rose from the dead. what does Jesus do then? he gave him proof despite all the advantages Thomas already had.
why is this same God ignoring my asking for proof when he gave Thomas proof? don't you think this is huge partiality?

Thomas followed Jesus through thick and thin, suffered humiliation along with other disciples been mocked by the first century Jewish people, preached and taught in all his area about Jesus proving that Jesus is the Christ, stayed with Jesus when most disciples left , and continued with Jesus' group even after he knew Jesus has been brutally killed and he was with them.

YES! Thomas was faithful that's why Jesus did everything manly possible to save his faithful friend but as for faithless people they don't worth anything before God so they aren't going to see any sign! Matthew 16:4

OkCornel:
You don't need to be under the impression that you have to prove anything.
I just thought it would be worthwhile to hear your thought on this.
But if you have no answer to the question, it's understandable. No pressures from me.
By the way, I'm impressed with your attitude on this thread (not replying with insults despite being insulted), it's a rare virtue.
Have a blessed day.

I only give answers when there's something worthwhile but when it's all about fruitless arguments i ignore.
Do have a lovely weekend!

OkCornel:
Can you answer the question please?
How was Zechariah 14 v 1-5 fulfilled in 1914? If it was fulfilled at all…

I don't have to, it doesn't change anything!

OkCornel:
Did it happen? Yes or No.
If yes, please provide evidence(s). Thanks

Just take it or leave it, if you agree that makes us worshipers of the same God if you disagree it means your god differs from mine.

Period!

LocalStandard1:
Thank you for the read bro. Long but educating.

You're welcome!

Aemmyjah:
They don't read Bible to assume foolishly
History shows that most nations in ancient times use magical powers and superstitious acts in their medicine and it still happens today
When I was small, if a tooth fell, I was asked to throw it into a fresh poop or onto a roof if I want it to be replaced

The Bible shows that there were no room for any magic amongst God's people. It was condemned and the levitical priests were also acted in health matters besides taking the lead in worship at the tabernacle. That's why we don't see record of magicians in that time (I mean a Jewish magician). Did Jesus Christ not say that sick ones visit a physician? Even the apostle Paul urged Timothy to drink alcohol cos of his frequent illness
It is reasonable that they knew herbs and other things from plants and whatever that can help in relieving illnesses.
When the woman with the issue of blood said that she spent all her saving with doctors on something that was affecting her inside, it is foolish to think that it was a kind of injection or equipment used on her cos that was an event of almost 2000 years ago when we don't have all these medical equipment we have today. They must have given her herbs and potions that did not help her at all

The woman only had menstrual complications and physicians will just give her one or two things to use.