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The saying went out among the brothers that this disciple would not die. John 21:23
Sorry the saying went out but they didn't believe it because the person who spread it told them not to believe in Jesus who supposedly said it!😁

You just love deceiving yourself when it was said that the saying came from Jesus so you think they shouldn't believe it shey?

Abeg whose words do they believe gangan?😁

FxMasterz:
The saying went out. It was discussed. Can you confirm that it became a doctrine or was actually believed?
If we're to agree to your postulations, then John would read:
"The saying went out among the brothers that this disciple should not die. And this saying was believed among the brethren. However, Jesus did not say to him that he would not die..."
Was this how John put it?

Go and arrest this man i believe he shouldn't have said it publicly if he's not a member of RCCG!

Meanwhile social media can't tell you the whole truth unless an insider as in member of RCCG.

FxMasterz:
"While John was writing (not wrong) in 98 AD, he didn't say the belief was still being held till today."

John said:

The saying went out among the brothers that this disciple would not die. However, Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but he said: “If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you?” John 21:23

The question is:

Do you agree with the scriptures that at a point in time Christians were saying among themselves that Jesus will return in the first century before apostle John die?🙂

Melchizzedek:
Why is there a book in heaven, I tot humans only make book with worldly machines. Wetin concern heaven with book.

The Bible book of Revelation was given to apostle John by an angel that Jesus sent {Revelation 1:1} and as we know Jesus often use earthly things to make matters clear to us. John 3:12
From the time God regretted watching the bad things humans are doing to one another {Genesis 6:5-6} He designed some angels with eyes all over their bodies {Ezekiel 10:12} they are to continue looking at whatever humans are doing to themselves throughout the earth and reporting back to God. Genesis 18:20-21

So when God promised to send His Son as Counselor for obedient humans {Isaiah 9:6} God also foretold that the angels serving as eyes or CCTV for Him {2Chronicles 16:9} will start penning down the names of all those responding to the message Christ and his disciples will preach:

At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name. Malachi 3:16

The highlighted in red is the same as the book of life {Revelation 20:15} only those found written in that book will be spared in the day of God's vengeance against evildoers!

Many who practice false religions will be written in that book because they don't know how to distinguish between true and false religions but they lived by their God's given conscience. Romans 2:14-15

But during Christ's millennium reign all those who have been discussing about righteoness with Christ's messengers will know what to do since they've been following the program whereas anyone who only lived by God's given conscience but never paid attention to the message true Christians are discussing with their neighbors will find it extremely difficult to cope during the thousand years reign of Christ as they will still be thinking it's their self righteousness {Isaiah 64:6} that will save them so they will die before the end of Christ's thousand years reign! Isaiah 65:20

This is why Jesus said:

it will be more endurable for the land of Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah on Judgment Day than for that city. Matthew 10:15

Which City?

That is the city where people living there never allowed Christ's true disciples to discuss with them.

Judgment day is not about what people did before they die rather it's about how they will live forever which only Christ's disciples can teach them.

So if anyone is not a Christian today he or she only have one problem:

How to cope with life in God's kingdom!

Righteous people will be brought back to life in paradise unrighteous people will also be raised back to life in paradise {Act 24:15} the righteous are God's servants who has known and practiced His righteousness the unrighteous to be raised are people who don't know God's righteousness but lived by their own conscience God will not judge them since they don't know what they are doing it's only those who choose to be wicked deliberately that will never be remembered during the resurrection! Psalms 9:17

This is all the evidence i need from you:

FxMasterz:
John was wrong in 98 AD.

So if you say John who is God's inspired Bible writer was WRONG in what God's holy spirit inspired him to pen down for us what else is there to discuss with you again?🙂

FxMasterz:
It is you that's saying what God's Word didn't say. That's why we call you guys false prophets. Not because of your misconception but because of your deliberate falsifying of God's Word.

I'm happy you even used the word 'misconceptions', meaning you're aware that you have been wrong about many things. And you're still wrong about thousands of other things. The truth is that, the Chur h seeks knowledge as a body. And whatever knowledge the church has acquired and have been established as a general biblical doctrine, an isolated group that has a contrary opinion not biblically grounded is an heretic group. It's like science discovering atomic theory, then a splinter group of scientists somewhere remain in archaic beliefs regarding the same theory. Such a group is going to be relegated in the scheme of things.

You wait for decades or even centuries to discover what the church has already discovered and have moved on to higher things. You're false prophets as long as your doctrines have no biblical grounding.

John clearly said Jesus didn't say he was not going to die. I'm sure it wasn't John alone that knew that. Peter knew Jesus didn't say he'll not die. Several other disciples didn't hold that opinion that John won't die. A few who misunderstood were the ones who spread the rumor. The rumor was never stated in other gospels. It was not stated in Acts. It was not stated in any Epistle. Such an important prophecy of someone who'll live till Jesus comes would take prominent positions in the gospels, the Acts and the Epistles. Why didn't it take position? Because it was not believed to be true.

But, you're here wanting to force us to believe the contrary - that the belief was held generally by early Christians even when the Bible never said so. Even the spreading of rumors is not the same as the proliferation of belief. Rumors can spread without it being believed. And all John said was that the rumor was spread. He didn't say the church held to it as a belief.

The only people whose names can't be found in the book of life are arrogant people but as for humble people who are always seeking righteoness {Zephaniah 2:2-3 compare to Matthew 5:5} they don't have any problem because they will be found written in that book such ones may be practicing any religion now as that is where they are born {Romans 2:14-15} but they always welcome anyone speaking about the righteoness of God they will be found written in the book.

CaptainJune:
Misinformation is the primary reason the scriptures in plain english appear like calculus to you. If you keep holding on to this erroneous view of yours you have a date with rude awakening.

The only misinformation here is you mimicking Satan who said humans can't really die {Genesis 3:4} when God's word says humans can die. Genesis 2:17🙂

h777:
"What does the scripture define as faithfulness to CHRIST?"

The above question should lead us to a group or organization because that is what they are teaching their members otherwise faithfulness to Christ can't be possible where it's not being taught.
Jesus said a lot about the organization that will be practicing what he taught in our time.
But before asking what the scriptures define as faithfulness to Christ it is also important to ask:
What was the ministry of Christ meant to achieve among adherents?
So what do you know about the purpose for the ministry of Christ?

Image123:
Do you now want to go to heaven or you're just listening to respond again?

This is the question OP asked:

Is Your Name Written In The Book Of Life?

Heaven is nowhere mentioned so you can't change the subject if you don't know the answer!🙂

Image123:
You seem to have lost your peace on the contrary, you should probably have ignored if there was any peace. That name jwickedness gave you goosebumps or ptsd? Stop listening to respond.

Jesus said:

“Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. Rejoice and be overjoyed, since your reward is great in the heavens, for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you," Matthew 5:11-12

So whatever you say can't change my mood all you need is just to ask for the answer and i will surely tell you but since you choose to argue i can't help you.

The question again is:

What did the Bible say about how people's name can enter into the book of life?

I'm 100% sure that none of your pastors can answer the question that's why i keep responding because i know you don't know what you are doing! Luke 23:34🙂

Image123:
You always listen to respond, change your ways and leave that cult.

So use the Bible to answer the question if you truly listens in your religion at least you should be able to say something about the question:

What did the Bible say about how to get one's name written in the book of life?🙂

The question i asked is:

MaxInDHouse:
What did the Bible say about how to get one's name written in that book?🤔

Your RESPONSE:

Image123:
Join the jehovahwickedness, right?

The above says a lot about you that's why i kept my peace!🙂

Image123:
Lolz, you should probably have the feeling that Matthew 7v6 is what i am doing with you. You've been ripped open so bad by Jwickedness.

Listening just to respond and listening to understand.

Only wise people knows the difference but we hate no one it's you who have chosen which side you truly belong!😟

Image123:
Sounds so much like you don't you think? You've been consistently asking some question instead of the explaining what they heard for others that you described.

Jesus said:

“Do not give what is holy to dogs nor throw your pearls before swine, so that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip you open" Matthew 7:6

The question is:

What the Bible says on how righteous people's name can enter into the book of life?

But nobody wants to know so there is no need wasting my pearl!

CaptainJune:
My previous replies already answered your questions.

If you think so but God never said any part of Adam will survive death because death is what Adam used to pay for his rebellion.
Resurrection on the other hand came not for everyone but only the righteous and unrighteous as for wicked people they have no share during the resurrection of the death! Psalms 9:17

TheStoriesOfMan:
Hahahahahahahaha.

Surprise!🙂

Image123:
Meaning you don't agree, or do you agree?

People LISTENING to UNDERSTAND do explain what they heard for others but those listening to respond only wants to argue with the person talking to them so they can't explain in their own words since they never listened to absorb!

So you don't know what the Bible says about how the names of righteous ones gets into the book of life?🤔

judewrites:
But thankfully, a government is coming that is free from all faults, weaknesses, corruption, etc. And that government will be eternal.

That is God's own government {Daniel 2:44} under the one and only anointed ruler who has been chosen by the true God! Isaiah 9:6-7

So no human government can bring any improvement because apart from wicked voters those to be voted are equally wicked since they are all from this wicked generations! Luke 11:29

Image123:
i belong to the group of people listening to understand too. Do you agree?

Do you ask if i agree?
OK, what did the Bible say about how to get our names written in the book of life?

Image123:
Are you really listening to respond? Do you read asleep magazine to respond?

I don't belong to the group listening just to respond i belong to the group of people listening to understand.

So do you want to know what the Bible said about how names are written in the book of life?

Just a YES or NO answer is what i need from you!🙂

judewrites:
Today satan rules the earth through many wicked political leadership but the devil's power is limited when Christians pray for the government and elect right leaders.

Can any right government come out of a generation that's controlled by Satan the devil?

Well if you must know the truth what unbelievers want is a government that is chosen by the majority (Democracy) now the next question to ask yourself is how many people do you think have good heart in the world today so that they can unitedly choose someone who is nice?🙂

Image123:
i see you're a weak man, judging by your asleep picture. Let me how much a magazine is these days.

What did the Bible say about how to get one's name written in the book of life?

Ọmọ, if you don't want to know it's OK!🙂

FxMasterz:
What made you think nobody corrected it until the year 98AD? So, it's only the Book that can be used as a medium of correction? John himself didn't have the notion from onset. It was some brethren who thought so. The notion that John won't die only appeared in that John 21. It never resurfaced anywhere again in the whole Bible. It was not sustained. Just a momentary thing. While [b]John was wrong in 98 AD, he didn't say 'the belief was still being held till today'[/b]And if it were so, it's typical of John to mention that.

So you believe God's word is wrong shey?
That's all i want you to confess publicly however the same thing still happens among true Christians (JWs) till today as some of our brothers do carry their misconception for decades making people like you to call us false prophets. I'm so happy that instead of you to admit that the same thing happened among first century Christians also you condemned God's inspired word for showing you that what makes you people call us false prophets is found among first century disciples of Christ!🙂

FxMasterz:
The Samaritans had come to recognize themselves as children of Jacob for religious purposes. Jesus understood that. The Samaritan woman was not talking about biological ancestry.

I just want you to prove that you don't believe in God's word at least Jesus did not say the woman lied even when Jesus told her that salvation is of the Jews! John 4:22

Farewell!🙂

Image123:
i see you have pictures, are they curled from asleep magazine? How much is a copy these days?

What did the Bible say about how to get one's name written in that book?🤔

If you don't want to know it's OK!🙂

Image123:
Do you want to go to heaven? Is your name written there?

If you don't want to know it's OK!🙂

Image123:
Is your name written there? You wey no wan go heaven sef.

If you don't want to know it's OK!🙂

Image123:
Join the jehovahwickedness, right?

If you don't want to know it's OK!🙂z

The Europeans who brought the Bible aren't Christians!🙂

NetbizBoss:
IF ACTUALLY CHRISTIANITY WAS GOLD THE COLONIALIST WOULDN'T HAVE FORCE IT ON AFRICA

TODAY WE ARE BEGGING THEM TO SHOW US HOW TO TECHNOLOGICALLY PRODUCE SOME THINGS BUT THEY REFUSED BUT FORCE THE SO CALL GOD ON US BEFORE SLAVE TRADE BEGAN


*Portuguese and Spanish coastal enclaves, 15th-17th c.*
- In Angola, São Tomé, and parts of West/Central Africa, Portuguese missionaries worked with local rulers who converted for trade and military alliances.
- In some cases, colonial administrators tied access to trade, education, and jobs to baptism. Refusal could mean exclusion from those systems.

*Belgian Congo, late 19th-early 20th c.*
- Missionaries operated under King Leopold II’s administration. The state supported Catholic and Protestant missions as part of its “civilizing mission.”
- Historical records show pressure on communities to send children to mission schools, where conversion was a condition for literacy and basic services.

*British, French, German colonies, late 19th-20th c.*
- Direct forced baptism was rare in British and French territories.
- Indirect pressure was common: colonial law, courts, and schools often favored Christians. Chiefs who converted often gained colonial backing. Traditional religious practices were sometimes banned under colonial ordinances, e.g., outlawing certain ceremonies as “public nuisance” or “fetish practices.”

3. *Mechanisms of forced or coerced adoption*
Where it happened, it usually worked through:
- *Political pressure*: Rulers converted to gain alliance with colonial powers, then their subjects followed.
- *Legal and administrative bias*: Colonial law favored Christian marriage, inheritance, and court testimony.
- *Economic and educational access*: Missions ran most schools and hospitals. Attendance often required baptism or at least renouncing traditional practices.
- *Military force*: In rare cases during conquest campaigns, colonial forces destroyed shrines and compelled conversion as part of pacification.

AFTER THE RELIGIOUS CONVERSION THEN CAME THE SLAVERY AND THE SLAVES TRADING

FxMasterz:
No, it was not a misconception carried by everyone. Even John made a clarification about it in John 21:23
"Because of this, the rumor spread among the believers that this disciple would not die. But Jesus did not say that he would not die; he only said, 'If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you,."
John himself clarified that Jesus never said that.

John said:
So the saying went out among the brothers that this disciple would not die. John 21:23
Jesus said this statement in the year 33.c.e and nobody not even apostles John himself corrected it until the year 98.c.e when he wrote the gospel.
So if it's not a misconception among the first century Christians why didn't John correct it until 98.c.e?🤔

FxMasterz:
The Samaritans were not Israelites. They were people from other nations that were resettled in Samaria after the northern tribes were taken away captives during the reign of Sennacherib king of Assyria. They original Israelites were exiled. The new inhabitants of Samaria were foreigners from other nations. They were not descendants of Jacob. Not even of Abraham. This was why the Jews had no dealings with the Samaritans.

So why didn't Jesus expose the lady at the well as a liar when she said:

“Sir, you do not even have a bucket for drawing water, and the well is deep. From what source, then, do you have this living water? You are not greater than our forefather Jacob, who gave us the well and who together with his sons and his cattle drank out of it, are you?” John 4:11:12

Why didn't Jesus say she lied claiming Jacob (Israel) is her forefather?🤔

HacheNoire:
All I know is that, if David Oyedepo makes heaven, I am definitely going to make heaven too.

So you think Oyedepo is a Christian shey?🙂

NetbizBoss:
IF ACTUALLY CHRISTIANITY WAS GOLD THE COLONIALIST WOULDN'T HAVE FORCE IT ON AFRICA.

The funny thing here is that Europeans who brought the Bible aren't Christians if you don't know that is the truth for you!🙂

On the contrary there is a Bible verse that tells us how our names could be written in the book of life but it's a secret that's hidden from arrogant and self-centered people! Matthew 11:25🙂

judewrites:
Why? Our prayers can bring God's timely intervention through our leaders, as all their hearts are in His hands at His disposal. (Proverbs 21:1)
God bless Nigeria 🇳🇬🙏

According to God's word who controls all human governments in the world?
Please consider the following scriptures before responding because questions may be raised regarding them.
:Luke 4:5-7
:John 14:30; 18:36
:2Corinthians 4:4
:Ephesians 6:12
:1John 5:19
Thanks in advance!