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In the illustration of EAGLES and BODY Jesus was so articulate in his use of words that he never said "BODIES" as in many but one "BODY" likewise he never said "EAGLE" as in one but "EAGLES" which connotes many. Luke 17:37

Let it be known today that he was referring to his disciples in the last days whose eyes will be as sharp as of EAGLES these are members of a church all of us know as Jehovah's Witnesses today and the BODY they gather around to feed on their SPIRITUALITY is known today as the GOVERNING BODY.
In another illustration Jesus referred to this BODY as the faithful and discreet slave! Matthew 24:45

Whoever has ears let him listen! Mark 4:23

johnw47:
in the top quote, lost false jw mad max said "the body" is so called Jehovah's witnesses
in the bottom quote, in his very next post he say's; "the body" is "the governing body" of false w's

however what Jesus is referring to in luke is; body/corpse

1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Olódo!

Jesus used a lot of illustrations in his teachings and whatever he uses is always coherent with what he's teaching. In that chapter Luke 17 what was Jesus teaching his apostles that led to the illustration of EAGLES and BODY?

Let's see for ourselves:
Verses 22-25 Jesus explained that his presence (which Jehovah's Witnesses said began in the year 1914) will be felt globally.
Verses 26-30 Jesus said destruction will begin to loom on the generation that witnesses his presence and only a few will be saved just as it occured in the days of Noah.
Verses 31-35 Jesus said that the chosen ones will not even know what led to their been chosen as all his disciples will be working together like normal days.
Verses 37 His disciples asked him WHERE will the faithful ones be at that point in time? Jesus responded with the illustration of BODY and EAGLES.
Eagles are flying creatures with sharp eyes so they can see their food far away from them and they will all go straight to the place.
So Jesus responded by concluding that there will be a BODY that all those with sharp eyes and minds will target to gather round it.
Of course the Governing BODY of Jehovah's Witnesses are DEAD to all the things affecting all other religious leaders in the world {Romans 6:11} that's why faithful people with EAGLE eyes could see from different religions that this overseers is different from those of all other religions.

Do you believe God exists?
Do you believe God has His organized people worshiping Him as one family today?
I agree that you're once a member of Jehovah's Witnesses organization but now that you're no longer interested in the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses which church in particular is teaching what Christ taught today?
Your argument can only make sense if you can present the organization of people practicing what Jesus taught today.
In the absence of that you're not far from insanity because before 1914 there is no sane human who sticks to a religion that's practicing what he or she believes to be wrong instead they will drop it and go for another but after 1914 Jesus chose the WATCHTOWER {Matthew 24:45} it has become a problem for all rebellious children {Ephesians 5:6} as they're unable to leave God's organization and look for a better performing group.
Even the first century Jewish disciples of Christ left him and never returned as they strongly believe he's insane.John 6:66-68
So what's your problem with WATCHTOWER if not that you know they're the only religion that has the truth?
That's the indisputable truth!

epfa:
Watchtower says that Daniel 4 can be used to calculate some kind of "Gentile Times" thing.

The whole idea of a "Gentile Times" ending in Jewish rule was an apostate teaching that permeates the apocryphal books like Maccabees.

The unfaithful Jews who rejected Jesus were looking for the end of what they wrongly viewed as "the Gentile Times" so they could reestablish an apostate ungodly kingdom on earth. The current Zionistic political movements are extensions of such apostasy.

Jesus made clear that God's Kingdom is not earthly. "My kingdom is no part of this world."

Faithful Jews made up the foundation of the Christian congregation. When they asked Jesus about the time of the kingdom he said "no man knows the day or the hour" and also "it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons in the Father's jurisdiction."

Jesus did not want his followers to try to calculate some date for when the kingdom would begin in heaven.

If the "1914" date could have been calculated, then surely Jesus with his perfect mind would have known it, since the book of Daniel was available back in the days Jesus walked the earth as a human.

There is no "secondary fulfillment" of Daniel chapter 4. The Watchtower leader losers cut and pasted their "1914" thing right from a pyramid-sun-worship-idolatry-blasphemous-demonic theory. Then they taped a bunch of unrelated Bible verses on top of it and tried to sell it by repeating it over and over.

As far as world conditions go, weren't the bombs in Hiroshima in WWII worse than anything that happened in 1914? Aren't the weapons today more destructive than anything in WWI?

The Watchtower leaders are LIARS. They perpetuate the 1914 myth so as to support their 1919 "the FDS appointment" antichrist hierarchy, lording it over the sheep in an abusive and unscriptural way.

Jesus will tear down all structures not built on the rock-mass.

Today many can't leave God's organization as they know for sure that there's no other worship as pure as Jehovah's Witnesses they now remain with the organization claiming it's devilish yet they can't present another that's not devilish and the worst thing is that they're still WORSHIPING with the so called devilish church!

All these began in the year 1914 before then no sane human will say a religion is devilish and still continue worshiping with the devilish religion.

So why is it happening today?

Because since 1914 the only pure worship has stood out and no wicked person can continue walking in the light so they're complaining ywt they're not leaving!

The restoration of pure worship began in the year 1914!

Sand2022:
Why are you still posting this unfortunate calculation?

Not until you leave JWs organization and tell everyone on this forum the church you're attending now but as long as you're attending meetings (worshiping) with Jehovah's Witnesses whatever you say is gibberish and nonsense!

Someone is lying and you're 100% sure it's a lie, you have said your mind several times on the matter, you've even called others to come and air their opinion but you're not satisfied despite all what you've done it's like the one you're calling a lie must not talk again whereas there is freedom of expression and worship.

Nah wah o!

oteneaaron:
Repeating a LIE over and over again will never make it true.

Are you sure it's a lie?
Because no sane human will continue to argue or worried over what you're sure is a lie!

Be AWAKE as a watchman on a WATCHTOWER because the countdown began in the year 1914!

After all said and done Jesus' disciples asked him how faithful and obedient humans living in the endtime will identify the group practicing what Jesus taught he related so many parables but in the end they asked him "WHERE" will this small GROUP be in the endtime since Jerusalem will no longer be spiritually relevant after Jesus' departure.
Jesus' response will shock anyone with a clean heart:

“Where the BODY is, there also the EAGLES will be gathered together." Luke 17:37b

Jesus loves using illustrations in his teaching style a lot, EAGLES are birds that loves gathering where dead BODIES are found so who are the EAGLES and what did Jesus meant by the word BODY?

Well the EAGLES today are members of different religions who left their religions after they heard Jesus called out to faithful people who are in all the false religions on this earth {Revelations 18:4} they left their former religions to come and feed on what the BODY is giving, and who are this BODY?

Have you ever heard of a small GROUP called Governing BODY of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

They were chosen in the year 1919 after Jesus has found them to be faithful and discreet! Matthew 24:45


Let anyone who has ears listen! Matthew 13:9

Have you been trained to become one of the MEEK!

Ken4Christ:
Many are called but few are chosen.

You don't know the meaning of scriptures you just quote stupidly.

Jesus called all religionists out of their false religions in the year 1914 just as he called the Jews who became his disciples in the first century. Revelations 18:4
I am one of those who responded to his call and became his disciples and just as few were chosen to become co-rulers with him in heaven the BORN AGAIN Christian among us were chosen and given the garment to join the invitees who will go and rule with him in heaven! Matthew 22:1-14

So there are millions of disciples called but only 144,000 were chosen to rule with him in his kingdom that's why he refer to them as the little flock! Luke 12:32

Since the year 1914 faithful and obedient humans throughout the earth has been going to associate with Christ anointed brothers {Matthew 25:40} this anointed brothers of Christ are referred to as the BODY according to the scriptures they are DEAD to sin (Romans 6:11} but to Christ they are alive so their faithful brothers who are of the other sheep {John 10:16} gather round them like EAGLES! Luke 17:37


Let anyone who has ears listen! Matthew 13:43

MaxInDHouse:
But unlike the sheep Goats are rebellious in nature and the funniest part is how they choose themselves to lead themselves while they keep on rebelling against orders given by their self appointed leaders who climbed up forcefully!

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max

see how meek you are, oh deluded one



ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

dum dum, i already proved moses was a meek man:

Num 12:3  Now the man Moses was very meek, more than all people who were on the face of the earth.


now false jw, go on trying to prove moses wasn't meek, like you tried to prove that Jehovah isn't all knowing
and like you tried to prove that Jehovah is not Almighty

Pro_11:20 The perverse in heart are an abomination to the LORD



you mad max would accuse Jesus of being a violent man because He overturned
tables in the temple, wouldn't you oh accuser like the devil:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.


over turning the table of sinners in the temple doesn't make Jesus a violent man, just like
moses defending a israelite doesn't make him a thug and a killer and a violent man, as you accused

God's word say's moses was a meek man, and of course you false jw try to prove that He wasn't

You're just a fool because i asked you to quote Jesus and prove that Moses who killed and buried a man was MEEK at that point in time before his training.
For the benefit of other sincere followers Moses was not meek rather was a violent man but God saw in him the willingness to rescue the Israelites that's why God allowed him to become a shepherd for 40 years and there he learned to be MEEK!

I won't respond to your madness anymore because it's obvious you're just hungry and thirsty for my response!

johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost false jw mad max

oh duh dum dum, all his life moses was a meek man
God's word says; "the man Moses was very meek, more than all people who were on the face of the earth"

and you oppose God's word trying to show that moses wasn't meek

just like you tried to show that Jehovah isn't all knowing, and tried to show that
Jehovah isn't Almighty


truly i don't accuse Jehovahs witnesses, i accuse you false Jehovahs withennes



a senseless man has no knowledge, nor does a stupid man understand

If you're not a liar and idiot quote Jesus nah and prove how Moses was meek by killing a person and burying the body all by himself!

johnw47:
he was always a meek man, he killed a egyptian soldier in defence of a israelite.

Someone singlehandedly killed a man buried the body and when he discovered it has been known he ran away yet you say he is always MEEK.
Is that Jesus' definition of Meekness? Luke 6:27-28
Chai, is it a must that you join others to accuse Jehovah's Witnesses?

Many of Jehovah's servants were once thugs as in violent men but after receiving training from the true God we become the meekest.

For instance Moses was a thug in fact a killer but after Jehovah had completed training him Jehovah could say about this once violent man:

Now the man Moses was by far the MEEKEST of all the men on the face of the earth. Numbers 12:3

Please has Moses been like that all the time?

NO!

MaxInDHouse:
Sheep always walking orderly.
Are you one of Jehovah's Sheep? John 10: 27Psalms 23:1
He has appointed some among the sheep to act as shepherds even though they are all His domestics! Matthew 24:15

But unlike the sheep Goats are rebellious in nature and the funniest part is how they choose themselves to lead themselves while they keep on rebelling against orders given by their self appointed leaders who climbed up forcefully!

Ken4Christ:
But you said that there is no born again Christian outside Jehovah Witnesse organisation. And now you are saying that you are not born again. You are hopelessness confused.

There is no single Born Again Christian outside Jehovah's Witnesses organization but that doesn't translate that all JWs are Born Again.
It's obvious you guys don't read with insight!

Ken4Christ:
You know that you are not born again. You don't qualify. To be born again, you must believe that God raised Jesus from the dead first. But you said he didn't, that Jesus rose from the dead and left his body behind. You are wicked to say things contrary to God's word. Your leader is in hell burning for his wrong teachings and you will join him very soon.

What is the essence of your so called BORN AGAIN now that some of you are going to your HELLFIRE?

Sheep always walking orderly.
Are you one of Jehovah's Sheep? John 10: 27Psalms 23:1
He has appointed some among the sheep to act as shepherds even though they are all His domestics! Matthew 24:15

Only for the MEEK! Matthew 5:5

ozoono:
They maybe physically present but their mind is far from the teaching

So his teaching is not for those who don't value his presence!

StillDtruth:
So those born again in Cornelius house, Corinth, Ephesia are not born agains because they were not jws?

That's the name the true God called his faithful worshipers in the endtime:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

StillDtruth:
See how mad you are not to talk about your mad self praise, yet you say you are born again!

Proverbs 18:13

You just jumped at the post without reading with insight.
I am not a BORN AGAIN i'm just talking about them and their attitude in our midst!

So your own BORN AGAIN people are still with such low sensitivity?

If i say you don't know the meaning of "BORN AGAIN" you will start calling names.

If you're not stupid a BORN AGAIN Christian is one born of the spirit {John 3:5} they are in the front when talking about holiness in our midst we fear them because their actions is judging us that we supposed to be their subjects while they rule over us. Revelations 20:5-6

In fact we are sometimes scared seeing how they do everything as if they're no longer humans like us, the spirit of God dwells in them and they have put all material things behind them it's like they're living in another world as we perceive them in our midst.
That's why you can never ever see a former JW who will tell you he is associating with any other religion/church because we are 100% certain that there is no born again Christian outside Jehovah's Witnesses organization and they are the ones we are saying this to:

“We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.” Zechariah 8:23

So my guy you don't know what it means to be a BORN AGAIN Christian!

And so Jesus the spirit King sent out his angels to gather all obedient humans throughout the earth in order to get a prepared people that will make up the New Earth. Isaiah 65:17
Their faith must be tested with fire {1Peter 1:7} this means their faith in the King must be strong enough to obey instructions coming from an invisible King.
This is what makes the test really difficult like fire the invisible King has representatives who are doing his work with one accord but while the invisible King is perfect his earthly representatives are imperfect.
So can you be that faithful enough to see him in action as his imperfect humans representatives are carrying out his orders? Matthew 28:19-20

Well Jesus said those supporting his imperfect human representatives he will group as SHEEP but rebellious humans unwilling to see how his work is progressing with the help of his imperfect human representatives he will group as GOATS. Matthew 25:34-46

Note that both animals are domestic pets which means just as SHEEP always follow their kind OBEDIENTLY despite the fact that they're all domestic pets the GOATS goes about their businesses each setting his own standard.

No wonder Jesus called the GOATS "workers of iniquity" {Matthew 7:21-23} as they aren't open to any agreement {2Timothy 3:3} on how the domestics of the master should be orderly! 1Corinthians 14:40

All these began in the year 1914!

FxMasterz:
A true Christian would answer the same way because he needs to speak to the world in a language the world understands. But in real religious conversation, he never refers to himself as a religionist!

Ọmọ i don close!

FxMasterz:
You've been known to be a mischievous fellow nah! This is the best testimony about you on this forum!

OK what they told you is now your bunch of EVIDENCE shey?
And i've been thinking of rating you o, so your real colour is now coming out!

FxMasterz:
Keep your mouth shut!

If you go to court and they ask you what's your religion what do you say too?

I will answer straightforward that i'm a Christian because i know i have a RELIGION nah!

FxMasterz:
Go and sit down and stop lying. Who are those Christians who call themselves religionists?

Now i know you can LIE boldly even when you know you're wrong.
So when your so called Christians go to court or registry and they ask them:

"What is your RELIGION?"

How do they used to answer?

Ọmọ go and sleep don't let me make your brain boil this evening jọọ!

FxMasterz:
Keep your mouth shut!

Don't ever compare your mischievous self with Jesus Christ again!

Be ready for me where you try to be mischievous. I myself have a lot in store for you. Listen, you cannot use anything whatsoever to threaten me or intimidate me on this forum. If you think you have the monopoly of being mischievous, I have stored a lot of evidences against you in preparation for what I know you could do. You can't intimidate me, okay?

I needed to have more evidences of your lying character because I know that Oteneaaron, Achorladey and Courz have such evidences in plentitude, that's why I replied Oteneaaron the way I did. I wanted him to unearth and fully expose you by bringing me good evidences that I can add to my arsenal.

I'm just waiting for you to misbehave. Never dare threaten me, I would serve you hot hot if you try to be mischievous. I'm warning you.

You can't be more mischievous than what you've been doing on this forum nah, can you?

FxMasterz:
Liar! Criminal!

Give me my money!!
I'll soon arrest you. Just wait and see.

Talktalk2022 is a notorious scammer bro. He has scammed so many people on Nairaland. He scammed me of 200k. Run away from him. He has other monikers.

That was you LYING TROLLING shey?

FxMasterz:
Yes, that's the world. No true Christian practices religion and calls himself the only one practicing some true religion. No true Christian talks like that. Leave that to the world.

And who are those supposed Christian who don't believe that they are practicing a religion?

All the people you call Christians believe that they have their RELIGION (Christianity) please stop this it's making you sound childish!