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Templee333:
True knowledge doesn't come from religion. I AM above religion. Come to me and drink freely from the river of knowledge that flows endlessly. OR remain within the confines of David Splane and his fellows. It's your choice sir.

Present those who are BENEFITTING from your so called KNOWLEDGE first!

achorladey:
There is a share button below each of you post here. You do click it as well to share your message
When you were busy asking questions and I gave you fitting response you don't remember it was about argument
My post is giving you a lot to worry about.

It's either you agree with people's messages or you waka pass, do you stand up in public buses to argue with religionists spreading what they believe?
If you don't then it's wrong telling someone who brought a message you have a message when actually you have never arranged to spread your own message other than arguing with those who brought their own messages!

Aemmyjah:
Answer the 5 questions and let us see whether it's the JWs you're trying to shame or the God of the Bible who you claim to worship

They're arguing in support of archeologists and historians at the detriment of God's word no wonder Jesus said about God's people:

"Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth." John 17:17

Praise JEHOVAH!
God's people are SANCTIFIED but means of the TRUTH found in God's word not historical or archeological evidences from the world!

Emusan:
So it's no longer just "historian OUTSIDE JESUS FRIENDS"
You shall know the truth and the BP will continue to rise

OK your so called historians didn't say anything about Jesus that confirmed they're in harmony with what Jesus' friends penned down shey?

Well that's the point: God's people are in a world of their own! John 17:14-19

achorladey:
I repeat I don't have to create a thread on this forum to pass my message across

People who truly have a message CREATES THREAD for everyone to know what they have in mind going to different threads and arguing with people who brought their own message is enough to show that you have nothing to share!

Templee333:
sorry! Believing isn't the problem. It is better to know that than to believe. Do you actually know who is "jesus"? I can help you out if you wish. I can also give you a new thing to believe if you are actually interested in believing.

At least you have said some religious groups claiming they are following Jesus are performing better than others yet you don't believe Jesus existed.
Ọmọ that's enough to show you are fantastic in knowledge!

Emusan:
There is Josephus and Tacitus.

Please provide what these people said about Jesus and try to correlate with what his friends penned down about him!

Templee333:
I'll be glad if you could tell what actions of jw prove the presence of jesus. Other churches preach more than you, just for your information.

Templee333:
To begin with, did this man live on earth about 2000 yrs ago? Since there's no one presently living on earth to give an eye witness account, how do we know? If i'm asked, I'd say that the story of four gospels in the bible are things that must have happened millions of years ago. Some intelligent minds must have conspired to retell this story, inventing the name "jesus" as the hero. That is it! Christian religion is a conspiracy! Those who invented it didn't forsee the depth of confusion it will bring in this 21st century. Many will argue with me for saying this.

With the above you've made your case easy!

If you don't believe in the existence of Jesus but you believe that some religious group are proving him better than others your case really shows you knows the TRUTH!

Templee333:
Maybe they know that your efforts to reach them are driven by misguided zeal not accurate knowledge.

Templee333:
Truth is bitter.

You have all the TRUTH jàre just that your friends aren't here to celebrate your new discovery about TRUTH!

Emusan:
The fact that you can't provide a single scholar who agreed with you on this speaks a volume.

Just provide a single historian outside Jesus' friends who agree that what is written in the New Testament is true!

With all these events taking turns rebellious humans are busy fighting and killing one another because of politics {Revelations 6:3-4} as many strongly believe it's a way out of their suffering perhaps if they should appoint a good ruler so what should sincere and honest hearted individuals do?

Jesus said:

But as these things start to occur, stand up straight and lift up your heads, because your deliverance is getting near.” Luke 21:28

So if you're reading this today you have three options:

[1] Welcome Jesus' true disciples in your home and start a Bible study to know what you must do to be part of those who will surely survive the end of this wicked system of things! Matthew 24:14

[2] Put up an argument to prove you're not convinced! Mark 9:14

[3] Ignore and continue with your pursuit in life! Luke 17:26-30

May you have PEACE!

Before the year 1914 there was no single religion practicing what Jesus taught because Satan and his demons have established their own agents who have dominated all the earth claiming they are Christians no wonder Jesus said by the time he returns to inspect how his disciples are doing globally Christianity would have been turned to something totally different from what he commissioned! Luke 18:8

So it was after the year 1914 that Jesus through the Holy Spirit searched throughout the earth and found only one group thoroughly making research as to how Christianity should be this group was known back then as the International Bible Students Association led by a man called Pastor Charles Taze Russell, only this group was willing back then to make amendments in their teachings unlike all other established religions that were dragging supremacy among themselves in the field of politics.
So Jesus began correcting the International Bible Students and instantly they started making amendments in their beliefs and their mode of operations but instead of most people to reason on the new development they were mocking the group saying they are confused.
Well Jesus continue directing this group on what they should do next but when Satan got to know that Jesus is working with the Bible students he jumped into action just as he did in the first century and all the leaders of this group were arrested and sent to prison.
What will Jesus do now that his new found friends have been silenced?
Well Jesus fought back and three years later the leaders of the International Bible Students Association were released in the year 1919 it was a big shock to the world as this little group went into action and started gathering people throughout the earth from that year making them zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word!
So they began preaching and teaching from house to house and door to door just as Jesus commissioned his disciples back in the first century from that year they didn't stop the work of going from house to house and door to door throughout the until a century later when a pandemic broke out in the year 2019
So this group didn't stop their work but kept on working throughout the earth with zeal from 1919-2019 because of COVID-19 well i strongly believe it was a divine warning that Jesus' disciples have been around gathering faithful and obedient humans throughout the earth for 100 years in the last days! Malachi 3:16

Before the year 1914 there were few religions globally in fact the recognized religions were less than 40 throughout the earth but after that year only one religion (Christianity) began increasing speed in denominations and today there are over 41,000 different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're Christians!

Before that year there were no records of men or women performing miracles up and down apart from what was recorded in the Bible but after the year 1914 Nigeria alone has recorded over 100 miracle workers all claiming they're for Christ yet they have continued to contradict themselves in teachings and doctrines!

Before the year 1914 the world's political system has been relatively stable with just nations having regional disputes as a result of land grabbing but after that year countries far away from one another started having issues when they don't even share the same boarder!

Before the year 1914 the world's economy is stable as production of food and other things necessary for human survival was the priority of 99% of rulers in all lands but after that year rulers in all the earth have spent billions of dollars amassing destructive devices and maintaining a large number of able bodied men and women who are only trained to kill their fellow humans so agriculture suffers due to neglect from world leaders and famine which supposed to be as a result of infertility of the soil grew speedily throughout the earth causing inflation globally.

WHY did all these happened after the year 1914?

We Jesus said by the time he begins ruling from heaven WARS will break out throughout the earth {Matthew 24:7} because his first assignment as God's chosen king is to drive away Satan and demons from heaven and their next destination will be planet earth {Revelations 12:7-12} demons are rebellious angels so by the time they bombard the earth with rage they will possess human rulers in all the earth so you can see what led to the first world war in the year 1914!


False Prophets will multiply speedily because there will be confusion globally so many people will like to consult spiritualists on what lies ahead and since God's work is all about gathering faithful and obedient mankind for their salvation who will anxious people turn to?
YES you guess right! The agents of Satan!
So demons gave many different powers peculiar to what the people in different regions makes their priority!

oteneaaron:
Without the doctrine of 1914, the entire JW religion is utterly destoyed.

What is not destroyed in your own perception?

God, Moses, Jesus and Bible which of these do you have something tangible to talk about other than everything is false?

I went through the profile of Edybleketara and i've found something that shows he doesn't care whatever the Bible says so there's no need arguing with him!

Edybleketara:
Just say you can't answer his question, otherwise you'd have focused on the message rather than the messenger.

If someone is of the opinion that the Bible was fabricated and that he doesn't need it would you waste your precious time arguing with him on what the books in the Bible say?

Well there is no benefit in such discussion since he has sealed his mind that the book was fabricated.
God, Moses, Jesus and everything mentioned in the Bible makes no sense to him so what are you going to say to such a person when discussing how God's word is undergoing fulfilment?

achorladey:
I don't need to create a thread to pass or spread my message.

Of course you do, what you're doing right now isn't spreading any message but arguing over the message of another person.
People who have something to share don't go about dragging what others are sharing.
Once i notice something wrong in a message the first thing Jesus commanded me to do is walk up to the person and tactfully express my opinion but if the person insists it simply means we are not on the same page so i must take my leave.
WHY?
Because i have my own message sticking to one person arguing over his message indicates that you have nothing to share!

achorladey:
Is my message clear?

You only came to argue if you have any message all you need is to start your own thread to spread your message!

achorladey:
Deep down you know 1914 has nothing to do with the Bible

Why not speak for yourself nah?

You came to argue then you wanted to speak in behalf of everyone out there as if you have concluded for them and worse still you want to speak for me again.

Haba na so you be?

oteneaaron:
Is the above statement factual?

Your own case is SETTLED!

You're an atheist who doesn't believe anything found written in the Bible so your opinion here is worthless.

However thanks for commenting!

Aemmyjah:
How many years did Jehovah say that his people will be in captivity? 70 years or 50 years?
Which one should a Christian accept? That of 70 years leading to 607BCE (which is a conclusion based on the Bible prophecy) or from secular historians whose data is not always accurate?
Even if all the historians points to a date that contradict what Bible points me to, I will still choose the Bible. Let God be true and men be found a liar

If you're telling them they will prefer secular historians and archeologists to Bible writers, the same historians and archeologists that don't acknowledge the New Testament writers!

Emusan:
Lying liar!
Who declared 607BC as ERROR?
We're talking about archeological evidence, yet the lying liar says 587 is an ERROR.
well, your gods must be proud of you for doing his works perfectly.

You don't have to give yourself HBP on this matter it's either you accept or reject it.
Thanks for commenting!

MightySparrow:
Do I look like the one you can lecture? I don't think so. I lay on the table facts of history.
I and familiar with the topic. So you have not definitely answered the question.
The question still remains, from where did you get 607 BCE when all credible historical evidences point to 587 BCE? What is your source?

I have answered this before but for the benefit of other followers of my thread i will respond!

587 B.C.E. is an error by historians but they're not ready to accept the correction because it's coming from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

The year God's people were taken into captive supposed to be coherent with the 70 years God declared that the Jews will spend in exile but if we are to go by the year 587 B.C.E. there will be a glitch as the years would be 50 not 70 years. So if it's 50 years then it means God's promise regarding the 70 years is false.

Do you now see why God's people stick to 607 instead of 587 B.C.E.?

Most historians don't believe only the Bible so they don't follow up with God's word!

achorladey:
your sins does not stop you being called one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Sorry some grievous sins causes spiritual death to the sinner.
There is spiritual sickness and spiritual death.

Spiritual sickness is backsliding while spiritual death is deliberate act against what our God says. Someone who started doubting the word of our God is spiritually sick even though such doubts is sin but not as a deliberate act, so while the former can pray alone for forgiveness the later needs the intervention of the elders {James 5:14-15} do you think someone who deliberately pick up a weapon to kill his fellow believers in the Kingdom Hall can still be regarded as one with God's people?

So both are not on the same page!

achorladey:
That the disciples are not recognised as JEWS are lies.

The word JEWS doesn't just mean tribesmen among the Jews rather it means accepting all the ties binding on those having the same faith as they do.
So to the first century Jewish community Jesus and his disciples are better killed than bearing that name "JEWS" with them.
That's why whatever comes from Jesus or his friends is trashed till today!

achorladey:
Stop twisting my words with your
Is different from David is no longer an Israelites
All others fall into to annals of deflection and diversion from the main point

I am still answering your questions just as you ask only that the responses doesn't sit well with your thoughts.
Once anyone turns against the orders from our God such a person is no longer on the same page with the rest of God's people only a complete turnaround from the wrong course can save such a soul!

achorladey:
Twist it as you like.....

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2. No longer Jews but Jewish religious system...







Who have access to the synagogue? Children of Sodom and Gomorrah



Questions From Readers

Was God being partial in choosing for the early governing body men who had the same racial and national background​—all being Jews?

No, he certainly was not. All those whom Jesus first called as his disciples were Jews. Then, at Pentecost 33 C.E., Jews and Jewish proselytes were the first ones to be anointed with holy spirit and thus come in line to reign with Christ in heaven.


If you like call them bastards till eternity like you say Christian is a bastardised name. It will only keep exposing your lies and manipulations

So the same thing that's repeating itself today the world empire of false religions can't give either the Governing Body or their followers (Jehovah's Witnesses) the recognition you guys are requesting just as first century Jewish religious leaders disregarded Jesus, his friends and whatever comes from them that's why the New Testament has no pedigree before them till today. But whether they do or not only the organization God chooses is fulfilling what He foretold!

MightySparrow:
Can you change scriptures? They rejected Him that others can come in into the fold. Whoever you think you call yourself, you are encouraged not to be proud about it Roman 11 note verse 8 in particular.

You're the one who raised the issue of HISTORIANS that's why i quickly lectured you on how it works in the world.
So next time instead of arguing on what others say about the beliefs of a group think about what they're able to achieve.
The few Jews that followed Jesus and his disciples back then weren't relying only on the things others say but follow up on the fulfillment of Bible prophecies regarding the first century.
Today if you're not interested in what Jesus said regarding the end time there's no scripture or arguments that can convince you!

MightySparrow:
However, you are cunningly dodging the topic.
Say something about the 607 BCE and 1914 CE that have no credible historical evidence.

I have done that on the first page so go and read it and if you're not convinced take your leave it's not by force!