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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 1:18pm On Jun 18, 2024
wumiwumi100:
Every Jehovah's Witness is like a robot being controlled by the Governing Body.
Your actions in this thread show that you worship the Governing Body and lack the wisdom to think critically, failing to use the free will God gave you to discern between lies and truth.
This is where you failed again! smiley

According to God's word these group are not to lord it over those following them {Luke 22:25} so what makes you think they are like Gods if not that you failed to know their role in God's arrangement?

This is what they are meant to do!

*Take the lead in doing God's will in the time of the end so you can't find a better performing group that's organizing their members to work whole soul like the Governing Body.

*Direct how the work should be done from time to time that's why no other religion keeps the work going like the Governing Body.

*Set guidelines for members under their care as spiritual shepherds that's why you can't find any other religion as organized and orderly like those following the Governing Body.

*Approve where attention and material assistance is most needed among those under their care that's why you can't see any religion as self reliable and where members throughout the earth gets all the preaching and teaching tools needed for the kingdom work like those under the Governing Body.

*Teach the disciples how to apply the law of Christ {Galatians 6:2} so as to love neighbors as themselves {Mark 12:31} love and pray for those posing as enemies {Luke 6:27-28} and love fellow believers the same way Christ loves {John 13:34-35} so globally JWs are exempted from any organized killing as the Governing Body has infused the law of Christ the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} in their hearts! Isaiah 2:2-4

What they are not meant to do!

*Decide for you whether to remain under their care or take your leave so if you're no longer comfortable with them and their followers you're free to go out there and find a better performing group to join!

*Decide for you whether you should attend the meetings or not so if you feel like attending meetings with their followers nobody can send you out of the kingdom all as long as you're not there to constitute nuisance by disturbing their meetings.

*Decide how you should live your life if you choose to live by your own rules nobody can send you out of the kingdom hall as you walk in peacefully and leave when the meeting ends.

*Decide your mode of dressing if you're not in the field ministry with them so you're free to dress as you like since it wouldn't affect them or their preaching activities in any way.

*Decide how much you should contribute so as long it has to do with their expenditure you can choose to contribute or walk away without giving a dime so nobody will ask you how much you contribute as the box is set behind and no announcements are made to parade contributors.

So in what way are they your GOD if you're not misconstruing the whole thing? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op):
Aemmyjah:
Sir, I believe you're giving them opportunity to extend this thread and to be writing lies and all sorts of nonsense. There's no smoke without fire. If you quit commenting on this thread and every other stupid thread of their, not even trying to defend the organization from their lies or asking them to present another group , their barks will die down. It's not that they just want your attention but that anyone visiting the religious section of Nairaland will see such thread's among the top and if he's ignorant of who we are and what we do will believe their lies and you know how manipulative they are.
I think such steps is one way we can satisfy God's name, not trying to engage debates with fools
Hmmmmmmmmmm, you have a point but do you think honest hearted and sincere individuals will ignore the fact that different people from different schools of thought are claiming that one religion out of thousands having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines is the only one lying whereas all the rest are saying the truth while they can't agree on teaching?
Of course they can manipulate faithless miscreants not honest hearted and sincere individuals.
Do you know it's the attitude of these apostates that strengthen my faith that only Jehovah's Witnesses have the truth?
Let them continue deceiving themselves and i will continue to expose their stupidity because it's gullible people that view imperfect humans like them as GODS intelligent people like the Beroeans will check the scriptures to know which religion is most hated by all for being different while all of them are different! John 17:14-16

Christianity Etc › Re: 13 Critical Thinking Questions Every Jehovah's Witness Should Ask by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:37pm On Jun 18, 2024
wumiwumi100:
Your agenda cannot succeed. Evernaija is a news website, not a porn website. The screenshot you posted is from one of the viral and trending news stories in 2016. The screenshot below shows other news topics that you deliberately ignored.
So you as a Christian posted NUDE pictures of two adults and that's normal to you shey?

Thanks for your time! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:34pm On Jun 18, 2024
BewareOf419:
Where did you read it from the Bible that the idea to sacrifice Isaac wasn't from God but Satan and since Abraham passed the test Satan left him searching for someone else to accuse on the basis of faith in God
In the Bible book of Proverbs 2:1-5

READ:

My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee; So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding; Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding; If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures; Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.Proverbs 2:1-5

You either agree that God doesn't test anyone with evil things {James 1:13} or read without anyone to explain who is behind the evil test! Revelations 12:10smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:37am On Jun 18, 2024
johnw47:
Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
lost false jw mad max
very dum and confused false accuser,
yet even again, my posts are not about other churches but about you and false jw org:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
quote the hypocrisy oh as dum as they come one
your name calling and false accusing is because you pained as can be smiley
You're just a nuisance so don't say i ran away from you if you can't present any church or group that's free from the standard you set o! cheesy

Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:35am On Jun 18, 2024
johnw47:
*Confused false accuser,


*Quote the hypocrisy
Confused and false accuser:
a group that is not habitual liars, not blasphemers, not puffed up, not paranoid,
Oya mention just one group/church you know that's not into all what you accused a group of failure to do so means you're the false accuser!


Quote the hypocrisy:
You saying a church is lying for having different teachings while all others are also contradicting themselves in teachings and doctrines makes you a hypocrite! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:24am On Jun 18, 2024
johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
continue being the liar:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are doing God's will today!

That's why you can't see any other religion that you can mention in line with the standard you're setting instead you keep arguing blindly that there are thousands of birds in the sky but none is in your hand to present as your preferred bird.

Well out of all the religions on this planet today i present the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses the one and only religion all of you are seeing with a view of the highest mountain! Matthew 5:14-16

If you're not a liar oya present any other one that you can vouch for! Isaiah 2:2 cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:09am On Jun 18, 2024
johnw47:
a group that is not habitual liars, not blasphemers, not puffed up, not paranoid, etc. etc.
is a better performing group
MaxInDHouse:
Mention a group of worshipers you know that is not having all of these and let's examine together if you're not a liar yourself! cheesy
John the HYPOCRITE!

Here you have it oya present just one group or church that's not habitual liars, not blasphemers, not puffed up, not paranoid. cheesy

Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:05am On Jun 18, 2024
johnw47:
Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

lost false jw mad max

oh duh most dum one, i'm not talking about other churches
i'm talking about you lost false jw's

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
So you can't mention just one shey?

Continue deceiving yourself! smiley

Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:02am On Jun 18, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Most people often get confused regarding the role of the apostles in the first century.

Since these men are imperfect humans like all others why do we need to be submissive to them? Hebrews 13:7, 17

And how can we be submissive without being gullible? Act 17:11

In the first century Jesus had many disciples due to his preaching and teaching in the ministry but out of this group he selected twelve men to serve as Apostles {Luke 6:13} this twelve proved to be loyal to a fault as they were with the rest when Jesus uttered what seems like heresy in the hears of all his disciples! John 6:63-69

After they've passed all the test Jesus prayed for them {John 17:8-9} in his prayer he mentioned the case of Judah Iscariot {John 17:12} who loves riches but kept following Jesus! John 12:4-6

So how can we be submissive to this little group without been gullible?

First thing we should have in mind is their part or role Jesus gave them as assignment. They are to oversee the preaching, teaching and all arrangement having to do with the Kingdom work.

Second thing we should have in mind is that they are imperfect humans just like all others in the world so they're not infallible in any way.

But then how do we RECOGNIZE them in the world that's full of religious leaders of all kinds having followers here and there?

Jesus said by their FRUITS we will differentiate each religious leader and what they stand for {Matthew 7:15-20} this means there is a fruit expected of those following Jesus so if a religion failed to produce this particular fruit then the leaders of such religion are false.
MaxInDHouse:
With that we will RECOGNIZE the group God is using as His representatives and work with them in doing God's will just as the inhabitants of Beroea did in the first century {Act 17:11} after meeting the apostles and seeing them perform mighty supernatural signs they still study what the scriptures said about Jews who will be God's representatives during the endtime! Zechariah 8:23

But how can we avoid being gullible?

There has never been a time in the history of God's people that a prophet of God is perfect in everything he does so we should expect flaws common in all imperfect humans. The only thing we should keep in mind is how they are fulfilling the assignment given to them as written in the scriptures.
So at times a member of the flock can notice the flaws in the way a member of the apostles handled some matters {Galatians 2:11-14} but does that mean they're no longer representing God?
NO!
As long as they're meeting up with their assignment we must cooperate with them in doing the work given to them human flaws shouldn't stop use from working with them.

An example of this is the case of John the baptist. This man was the last Israelite prophet foretold to prepare the way for the Christ and John fulfilled that role but after his arrest and detention for many days John who baptized Jesus, heard God's voice in connection with Jesus' baptism and preached to others that Jesus is the Christ began having doubts about Jesus!

John had to send his own disciples to go and ask Jesus if he truly is the Christ or they should be expecting someone else! Matthew 11:2-3

Hmmmmmmmmmm, what will Jesus a perfect human did after hearing the words from John's disciples?
Did Jesus scold John for such unwarranted doubt?

NO!
Jesus knew that John was imperfect and that he must have had a misconception about him so Jesus sent back John's disciples to go and tell him what he is doing! Matthew 11:5

What is the essence of Jesus' response?
What has Jesus' performance of miracles and good news regarding God's Kingdom got to do with rescuing John from detention?

Well Jesus' response simply means "i'm doing exactly what the scriptures foretold regarding the Christ's presence in Israel"

So despite the fact that Jesus was perfect and without flaws John could sense that this young man is truly the Christ as he is fulfilling what the scriptures foretold regarding the Christ!

Well John the baptist ended his life in detention because it was from there that the order came from the king to behead John in prison! Matthew 14:3-10

What did Jesus have to say about this faithful servant of God despite his doubt?

Well Jesus declared to everyone listening that day that there has never risen a prophet in Israel that's greater than John the baptist! Matthew 11:11

So to RECOGNIZE God's representatives in our time all we need to focus on is the fulfillment of God's promises as foretold about our time not perfection on the part of God's servants or setting goals that's not recorded in the scriptures for them.

John the baptist believe that Jesus is the Christ so he expected Jesus to come and deliver him from prison after all he has been hearing of all the mighty works this young man is performing throughout the land so releasing him from prison shouldn't be difficult for such a powerful prophet. Yet when he heard what Jesus said through his own disciples he agreed that Jesus is doing what the scriptures foretold and he is not in the position to set goals for the Christ! smiley

Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:58am On Jun 18, 2024
johnw47:
*mad max


*something is wrong with you upstairs.
Do you have your own PERSONAL reason for calling your neighbor mad due to his choice in faith?
Are you offended when someone tells you that something is wrong with you upstairs due to your choice too? cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:55am On Jun 18, 2024
johnw47:
group that is not habitual liars, not blasphemers, not puffed up, not paranoid
Mention a church you know that is not having all of these and let's examine together if you're not a liar yourself! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:05am On Jun 18, 2024
johnw47:
any group that are not habitual liars,
Spiritual deafness!

All the religions claiming they're Christians while contradicting themselves in teachings and doctrines supposed to be LIARS!

If they can't all speak and do things in harmony then they're all LIARS.

So you asserting that Jehovah's Witnesses are the only liars for having different teachings yet no church is fully in harmony with another then something is wrong with you upstairs! wink

Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op):
Spiritual deafness! Matthew 13:12-15

1914 is the year Jesus began ruling in heaven!

Satan's tactics will never ever work on servants of the true God {Isaiah 54:17} if all abrahamic religions agree that we are living in the last days but only Jehovah's Witnesses say it's due to Jesus' reign which began when he was installed as king in heaven in the year 1914 but everyone is complaining about how Jehovah's Witnesses concluded on that year Satan's next target will be the teaching of that organization as a whole which means everything that group stands for with their dedication should be trashed.
OK if that's the case then which group is performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses?
Satan can be highly intelligent but not as wise as followers of Christ! Luke 7:35

So before anyone can speak convincingly against God's organization you must present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses.

In the first century all Jewish religious groups were of the opinion that Jesus is fake but then where should faithful, sincere and honest hearted individuals go for enlightenment regarding the Kingdom of God? John 6:68-69

So your arguments against the year 1914 could only make sense if any of you could present a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! smiley

Christianity Etc › Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:23am On Jun 18, 2024
BewareOf419:
Is it satan that provides the sacrificial ram he later slaughtered?
Who provided the clothing Adam and Eve wore after their rebellion?
What you people should know is that each time Satan comes up with his evil temptations whether the servant of God passed or failed God will send His angels to come and console His servants! Matthew 4:11
That's why He provided a ram for Abraham as the sacrifice he wanted to give his God wholeheartedly.

God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:17am On Jun 18, 2024
WhatsDifficult:
What ur saying doesn't add up na
Am not even sure how 2 start xplaining bt this is false...
I have a question 4 u instead, if someone teaches you something, how do you knw if it's true or not?
God's word is the truth {John 17:17} so if any teacher comes to you he or she must correlate whatever he is teaching with God's word.

The point here is most people thought God is the one demanding Abraham's son as sacrifice but the same scriptures said God doesn't test people with evil things. James 1:13
So ask any teacher to help you unravel the sacred secret {Proverbs 2:3} or trash God's word.
The ball is now in your court! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op):
wumiwumi100:
GOVERNING BODY: WORSHIP.
This is why most of you FAILED WOEFULLY!
In the scriptures there we find guidelines on the events that will take place during the last days so just like the Beroeans {Act 17:11} any intelligent person won't follow imperfect humans as if they are GOD rather you should have followed them in view of what the scriptures say they're to do, in that sense you won't see them as GOD and later start complaining about what the scriptures never said about them when they didn't do what you expected. Paul said we should imitate their faith as we see how their conduct turns out not viewing them as your GOD! Hebrews 13:7
So it's you people's fault and not anybody's for following imperfect humans gullibly as if they are GOD! smiley

wumiwumi100:
The guy is too mumu, He just dey argue without addressing any point we have raised.
There is no point arguing over what you have misconstrued!
When John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth began preaching in the first century asserting that the last days started back then most Jews including John the baptist and Jesus' disciples misconstrued the whole thing thinking that God's kingdom will begin ruling right away {Act 1:6} that's why John the baptist expected Jesus to come and rescue him in prison after all Jesus is the Christ and he has been baptized and has been anointed with God's holy spirit so what's next if not for him to begin ruling and restoring sanity and righteousness?
So you people are raising issues based on your misconception and not scripturally based facts that faithful people should consider thoughtfully! Philippians 4:8

wumiwumi100:
He will never respond to any of the points you raised. Instead, he will just spew gibberish that won't address the facts you provided.
Unnecessary arguments is what God's word told us to avoid {Philippians 2:14; 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9} if you're intelligent whether you agree that 1914 is the year Jesus began ruling in heaven or not should be kept in a cooler separately then start meditating on the events God's word foretold, that's exactly what Jesus apostles did in the first century.
Whatever calculation anyone could bring should be treated as minor rather what matters most is how events were unfolding scripturally.
All Jewish Rabbis agreed that the first century is the time Messiah should appear {Matthew 2:3-5} prior to that time two Jews have gathered followers claiming they are the Messiah but both of them perished and all their followers were dismissed {Act 5:36-37} so all the Jews back then believe that the first century is the period the Messiah should appear. Despite Jesus' credentials and miracles his own disciples were still skeptical about him being the Christ.
WHY?
Because the scriptures said Elijah must come before the Christ so if Jesus is the Christ what about Elijah? Matthew 17:10

So if all the churches of Christendom including Islam agreed that we are living in the last days then which group should we follow to doing God's will at this point in time?

That's the point you should raise not whether 1914 is accurate or not because all your arguments will make no practical sense to any faithful individual in the absence of the group doing God's will in the last days and that's what i keep asking anyone who speaks against the GOVERNING BODY of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Thanks for your time! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:33pm On Jun 17, 2024
oteneaaron:
How did you silence him?

You have started boasting again.

An empty barrel makes the loudest noise.

Do you think everyone eats and sleeps on Nairaland like you do?



So if he is only a "dwarf spiritually", how on earth did he become an Elder?

I thought the holy spirit selects people to become Elders - do you know more than the "holy spirit"?

Or are you trying to say that the "holy spirit" made a mistake?



He never made any comment like this.

Stop making up things in your head.



I wonder why you only quoted Mathew 10:6.

Why didn't you quote verse 8 that said: "Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay." - is your religious organization doing any of this today?

But I digress.

To clarify for the public, when Max says "God's Organization" he is actually speaking about the Man-made Business Cooperation called the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania.

"God's Organization" = Watchtower Bible and Tract Society

Now can you show me the specific verse in the bible where Jesus asked his disciples to search for people to join an "organization" aka Watchtower?



Where did God ask you to OBEY human representatives?

Acts 5:29 - "But Peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God rather than men."

Psalm 146:3 - "Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save"

Should we OBEY God?

OR

Should we OBEY the Governing Body of the Watchtower Organization who cannot save?



So if God read hearts, who are you call wumiwumi100 a "spiritual dwarf"?

Are you God who can read hearts?



John 6:68-69 - Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God.”

Are you now saying that the Watchtower Organization is equal to Jesus Christ?

The words of Peter in the verse above were crystal clear - he was not speaking about an "organization" aka Watchtower.
Questions upon Questions upon Questions just because you're bitter shey?

Pẹ̀lẹ́ i'm waiting for your friend to come and respond after all he jumped in to engage me but crawled back into his shell! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:28pm On Jun 17, 2024
WhatsDifficult:
What are you saying sir?
Evidence?
According to the Born Again Christian called James this is what he was inspired to write about God:

When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone. James 1:13

So who is behind temptation that's accusing faithful people throughout human history?

Apostle John was inspired to write:

I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the Kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God. Revelations 12:10

That's why God asked this accuser (Satan the Devil) when he presented himself among God's loyal spirit sons in heaven as usual to accuse someone on planet earth of hypocritical faithfulness that's based on selfish love if he has noticed Job! Job 1:6-11

So the idea never came from the true God who never tried anyone with evil things because He remembered very well that we are dust! Psalms 103:14

God bless you and may you have PEACE!
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Touches Everything That Belongs To Job But Not His Wife, Why? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:06pm On Jun 17, 2024
The temptation wouldn't have had any weight if his wife was affected because that would make two persons not one tested on the basis of faith.
Moreover Satan needs someone close to Job who will serve as thorn in his flesh just has Job's three friends!
Christianity Etc › Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:02pm On Jun 17, 2024
A diligent study and thorough meditation on what the scriptures later revealed that the idea to sacrifice Isaac wasn't from God but Satan and since Abraham passed the test Satan left him searching for someone else to accuse on the basis of faith in God!

That's why it wasn't repeated neither does it become a common practice among God's people! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 013 Avoiding Apostates. by MaxInDHouse(op):
With that we will RECOGNIZE the group God is using as His representatives and work with them in doing God's will just as the inhabitants of Beroea did in the first century {Act 17:11} after meeting the apostles and seeing them perform mighty supernatural signs they still study what the scriptures said about Jews who will be God's representatives during the endtime! Zechariah 8:23

But how can we avoid being gullible?

There has never been a time in the history of God's people that a prophet of God is perfect in everything he does so we should expect flaws common in all imperfect humans. The only thing we should keep in mind is how they are fulfilling the assignment given to them as written in the scriptures.
So at times a member of the flock can notice the flaws in the way a member of the apostles handled some matters {Galatians 2:11-14} but does that mean they're no longer representing God?
NO!
As long as they're meeting up with their assignment we must cooperate with them in doing the work given to them human flaws shouldn't stop use from working with them.

An example of this is the case of John the baptist. This man was the last Israelite prophet foretold to prepare the way for the Christ and John fulfilled that role but after his arrest and detention for many days John who baptized Jesus, heard God's voice in connection with Jesus' baptism and preached to others that Jesus is the Christ began having doubts about Jesus!

John had to send his own disciples to go and ask Jesus if he truly is the Christ or they should be expecting someone else! Matthew 11:2-3

Hmmmmmmmmmm, what will Jesus a perfect human did after hearing the words from John's disciples?
Did Jesus scold John for such unwarranted doubt?

NO!
Jesus knew that John was imperfect and that he must have had a misconception about him so Jesus sent back John's disciples to go and tell him what he is doing! Matthew 11:5

What is the essence of Jesus' response?
What has Jesus' performance of miracles and good news regarding God's Kingdom got to do with rescuing John from detention?

Well Jesus' response simply means "i'm doing exactly what the scriptures foretold regarding the Christ's presence in Israel"

So despite the fact that Jesus was perfect and without flaws John could sense that this young man is truly the Christ as he is fulfilling what the scriptures foretold regarding the Christ!

Well John the baptist ended his life in detention because it was from there that the order came from the king to behead John in prison! Matthew 14:3-10

What did Jesus have to say about this faithful servant of God despite his doubt?

Well Jesus declared to everyone listening that day that there has never risen a prophet in Israel that's greater than John the baptist! Matthew 11:11

So to RECOGNIZE God's representatives in our time all we need to focus on is the fulfillment of God's promises as foretold about our time not perfection on the part of God's servants or setting goals that's not recorded in the scriptures for them.

John the baptist believe that Jesus is the Christ so he expected Jesus to come and deliver him from prison after all he has been hearing of all the mighty works this young man is performing throughout the land so releasing him from prison shouldn't be difficult for such a powerful prophet. Yet when he heard what Jesus said through his own disciples he agreed that Jesus is doing what the scriptures foretold and he is not in the position to set goals for the Christ! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 013 Avoiding Apostates. by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:19pm On Jun 17, 2024
Most people often get confused regarding the role of the apostles in the first century.

Since these men are imperfect humans like all others why do we need to be submissive to them? Hebrews 13:7, 17

And how can we be submissive without being gullible? Act 17:11

In the first century Jesus had many disciples due to his preaching and teaching in the ministry but out of this group he selected twelve men to serve as Apostles {Luke 6:13} this twelve proved to be loyal to a fault as they were with the rest when Jesus uttered what seems like heresy in the hears of all his disciples! John 6:63-69

After they've passed all the test Jesus prayed for them {John 17:8-9} in his prayer he mentioned the case of Judah Iscariot {John 17:12} who loves riches but kept following Jesus! John 12:4-6

So how can we be submissive to this little group without been gullible?

First thing we should have in mind is their part or role Jesus gave them as assignment. They are to oversee the preaching, teaching and all arrangement having to do with the Kingdom work.

Second thing we should have in mind is that they are imperfect humans just like all others in the world so they're not infallible in any way.

But then how do we RECOGNIZE them in the world that's full of religious leaders of all kinds having followers here and there?

Jesus said by their FRUITS we will differentiate each religious leader and what they stand for {Matthew 7:15-20} this means there is a fruit expected of those following Jesus so if a religion failed to produce this particular fruit then the leaders of such religion are false.
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op):
oteneaaron:
You took the words right out of my mouth.
😂😂
Your friend has been silenced! Isaiah 54:17

Knowing many like him who aren't with God's organization with all their hearts {Mark 12:29-30} in the family he thought he has seen it all.

Now he's secretly learning some things he never heard among God's people because he was only growing physically but spiritually he is a dwarf who remains the same way he is just counting years among God's people.

Let him respond to the truth and prove that it's all about attending meetings that makes people part of JEHOVAH'S sheep.

Jesus sent his disciples to go in search for the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} and how do we recognize this ones?

They may be found among hooligans, violent people, alcoholics, witches, wizards, prostitutes, armed robbers, fraudsters, hired killers and ritualists.

YES they can be found anywhere but what is the message that strikes them in their hearts?

GOD'S ORGANIZATION!

Once they discover that God is real through the activities of His imperfect worshipers such ones begin to feel sober for all their past deeds and once they learn that God knows they did all those things due to frustration and He is willing to accept them they will become the meekest ever to OBEY God's representatives.

So when you look at their outward appearance they're useless to God but Jehovah reads hearts He knows they will serve as precious gems in His organization.

That's the undeniable proof of Jehovah's sheep.

But as many as those born and raised in God's organization who doesn't feel the emptiness that there's no other place to go if they should leave God's organization {John 6:68-69} of course such ones are useless to our God! Hebrews 10:38 smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: If The Bible Says God Created Evil, Why Is There Satan? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:49pm On Jun 17, 2024
Both Isaiah and Amos were Jewish prophets sent to declare warning messages and their audience were stiff-necked miscreants claiming they are God's people but having bad intentions towards anyone sent to warn them.

So what God's word found in the Bible book of Isaiah 45:7 means is that God's servants shouldn't fare any evil things those people had in mind because all the things they can think of as evil to harm God's servants were created by God Himself.

For instance remember Nebuchadnezzars who wanted to use FIRE to kill Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. Well Nebuchadnezzar strongly believe in the destructive power of FIRE but who created all the gasses that makes up FIRE?

So to prove that all the evil in this world are created by God the same fire that it's heat killed those who threw Shadrach, Meshach And Abednego into the fire turned out to be air-conditioner for the three Hebrews!

Again LIONS are known to be carnivores but when enemies of God threw Daniel into the lion's den these predators became domestic pets for Daniel but when those who planned the evil were thrown into the same den the lions devour them.

So the Bible book of Isaiah 45:7 was fulfilled that we shouldn't fear those who can only destroy the body but can't determine whether we will be resurrected or not! Job 14:13-15

May you have PEACE! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity, Questions That Needs Answers by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:36pm On Jun 17, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Oga rest
Can literal fire harm a spirit?
Why didn't it harm the Angel that visited Samson's parents? Casting such judgement makes u self, over righteous person
Whenever he sees JWs make any comment he has been acting like that slowpoke who calls himself Johnw47 they're both obsessed with JWs! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 2:29pm On Jun 17, 2024
From the year 1914 till today Jesus has been gathering obedient people throughout the earth and his disciples are working round the clock with him! Matthew 28:18-20

They have gone round the world and people from different geographical locations in their millions have joined them to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

There are remnants of 144,000 spiritual Jews on this planet today so sincere and honest hearted people from different geographical locations are saying with their actions:

“We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.” Zechariah 8:23

From the year 1931 the true God began calling His worshipers by another group name:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Note what God promised to do to Satan's agents among humans who have defamed the last group name God's people bore since the first century until the twentieth century "CHRISTIANS" well God said He will destroy them all for making innocent people to hate the Bible as most people now prefer to be Atheists, Agnostics, Judaists even Traditionalists due to all the atrocities Satan's agents have committed in the name of CHRISTIANITY! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity, Questions That Needs Answers by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:18pm On Jun 17, 2024
StillDtruth:
jw devil twisting serpent no get any reasonable to talk again. You and your papa satan go burn forever for hellfire when the time reach!
Extremist, why not allow God to judge? cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Will The Jews Find It Difficult To Make Heaven Since They Don’t Believe In Jesus by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:17pm On Jun 17, 2024
tanigororo:
[1]How about those who came before Jesus, and those who never hear about Jesus till they died what will happen to them?


[2]How about little babies who died before knowing right or wrong?



[3]Abeg dey reason before posting, we all agreed that Christianity is a Scam!


[4]Jesus himself was a Jew and not a Christian, so all Christians should be a Jew.[/b]
[1] All OBEDIENT humans whether those who lived before Jesus and those who never heard of Jesus will be brought back to life in Paradise when Jesus begin ruling the earth {Act 24:15} they will spend 1,000 {Revelations 20:1-3} years to learn all things Jesus commanded his disciples {Matthew 28:20} according to what is written in the Bible book of Act 24:15 those who have known/heard about the GOD of Israel and lived their lives in harmony with His requirements will be raised as RIGHTEOUS while those who lived by conscience without knowing what the God of Israel commanded will be raised as UNRIGHTEOUS.
As for wicked people who deliberately ignored all moral values and rendered their conscience dead there is nothing worthwhile to write home about them so they will be forgotten in their graves! Psalms 9:17

[2] Babies had no place in God's arrangement they're like animals since they don't know anything good about life in order to choose between right and wrong so they're gone for good. But children born to faithful servants of God who has been taught God's righteousness from infancy {2Timothy 3:15} they will be raised to bring laughter and joy to their parents who loved them that is if such parents make it to Paradise their they will have all the time needed to inculcate God's word into these young ones {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} there in Paradise they will be raised as responsible adults Isaiah 65:23 say children in Paradise will not be raised to cause distress.

[3] Christianity is just the way to everlasting life as taught by Jesus of Nazareth but Satan his demons and human agents have established counterfeit religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're Christians that's what most people know today but back in the first century that's not what Jesus commissioned. No wonder he himself said by the time he comes to inspect how well his disciples are doing on planet earth real Christianity will no longer be here! Luke 18:8

[4] Jews were the people who supposed to welcome Jesus and take Christianity to all other nations that's what God promised their ancestors {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} but when he arrived politics is what their leaders focused so much that's why they hated Jesus who taught his disciples to forget about politics and colonialism because it's all scam but their leaders wanted the Jews to continue fighting for liberation whereas Jerusalem will be part of the nations that will suffer under colonialism before God's kingdom takes over.
The first century Jewish religious leaders can't wait for all that so they planned to get rid of Jesus! John 11:48, 53
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity, Questions That Needs Answers by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:42pm On Jun 17, 2024
StillDtruth:
See as jw devil dey lie some more and dey twist like serpent as e dey shift post since e no get any reasonable to talk again. Devil, you and your papa satan go burn forever for hellfire when the time reach!
Frustrated religionist always seeking attention.

I never had any interest in chatting with you if i do it simply means you and i are on the same page which is not so.

Please don't mention me next time if you're not yet ready to use your brain. God never created any place called Hell or Hellfire that's why you has nothing reasonable to say other than insulting your friends asking for evidence! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:14pm On Jun 17, 2024
Westerhoffe:
JWs don't pray.
Surely you're the truth yourself.
Bwahahahaha! cheesy

Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:10pm On Jun 17, 2024
Ken4Christ:
What has my church name got to do with truth.
Everything! smiley

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